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PANEL. WE HAVE THE COORGANIZER IN THE CONFERENCE IS THE WILLIAM E HUNTINGTON PROFESSOR AND SHARE AT BOSTON UNIVERSITY. HE IS THE AUTHOR OF NUMEROUS BOOKS...
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| 00:02:00 |
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THE INTRODUCTION AND YOUR WORK IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. I THINK MANY OF YOU KNOW TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE HAS BEEN A REVIVAL, THE MAN WHO HAS STAGE...
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| 00:17:05 |
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MEANT TO BATTLE THE READERS. THIS KIND OF POPULAR HISTORY BECAME ROAD I CAN IN FRONT OF THE STEAM ROLLER OF ALAN NEVINS AND AMERICAN HERITAGE MAGAZINE,...
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| 00:24:12 |
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THANK RYAN AND BROUS FOR ORGANIZING THIS CONFERENCE AND PUTTING UP WITH MY LAST MINUTE STUFF AND INVITING ME TO BE ON THE OPENING PANEL. I THOUGHT...
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| 00:47:30 |
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HERE. THANKS, RYAN AND BRUCE, FOR BRINGING US TOGETHER. IT'S A PARTICULAR HONOR TO BE ON A PANEL WITH TWO SPEAKERS WHOSE WORK HAS BEEN SO IMPORTANT...
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| 01:06:39 |
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OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO DISCUSSION. ONE ANNOUNCEMENT I NEGLECTED TO MAKE, I AM NOT STEVE GILLAND, HE'S MUCH BETTER LOOKING THAN I AM. STEVE...
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| 01:07:32 |
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YOU. THIS IS A VERY INTELLECTUAL PANEL. I UNDERSTOOD ABOUT A QUARTER OF WHAT WAS SAID, BUT THAT'S GOOD. LE I WANTED TO ASK A BOUNDARY QUESTION. ...
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| 01:08:14 |
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YEAH. BEFORE THE PANELISTS ANSWER, I THINK OF THIS AS CRUISING THE PRESIDENCY TO WRITE HISTORY WHICH WOULD BE A SEPARATE CATEGORY THAN THE ONES YOU...
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| 01:08:35 |
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HISTORY AS I THINK ABOUT IT THE HISTORY OF THE OFFICE AND THE HISTORY OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH ARE INSEPARABLE. WE THINK ABOUT THE CREATION OF THE MODERN...
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| 01:10:23 |
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PIECE OF EVIDENCE IN YOUR ARGUMENT FOR THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE PERIOD OF THE 30s AND 40s. SORT OF RESHAPING. MY QUICK ANSWER IS NO. I WOULD SAY THE...
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| 01:11:20 |
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I'M VERY INTERESTED IN TRUMAN AND TRUMAN'S RESISTANCE TO THE CREATION OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL, FOR EXAMPLE, AND HIS DUBIOUSNESS ABOUT THE COUNCIL...
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| 01:12:12 |
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RELUCTANCE TO NAME A CHIEF OF STAFF IS PART OF THE POST PROGRESSIVE IMPERIAL PRESIDENCY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. IT WAS ANOTHER INTERESTING EXAMPLE OF...
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| 01:12:36 |
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THANK. AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF SESSIONS LET'S INTRODUCE
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| 01:12:40 |
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OURSELVES. >> SURE. DAVID GREENBERG, RUTGERS UNIVERSITY. BRUCE MENTIONED ME IN HIS PAPER. THANK YOU FOR THAT. OTHERWISE RELATIVELY OBSCURE. YOU SINGLE...
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| 01:14:06 |
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TAKE THE CHAIR'S PREROGATIVE. THIS IS IN PART BY MICHIGAN PUNISHMENT FOR HAVING READ THE PAPERS WHICH, OF COURSE OH, YOU HAVEN'T. I READ A NOTE TO STEVE....
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| 01:15:13 |
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USELESS PEOPLE OR INTELLECTUAL HISTORIANS. >>
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| 01:15:16 |
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HISTORIES. STEVE MAKES THE CASE AND MAYBE I'M MISREADING THE PAPER. IT'S NOT MY JOB TO RESPOND. BUT IN ANSWERING THE QUESTION ABOUT HISTORY VERSUS...
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| 01:16:17 |
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LACK OF HISTORICAL MINDEDNESS AT ALL. JUST THAT THE LITERATURES ENGAGED THE QUESTIONS ASKED OF THE TWO PAPERS ALONG SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT LINES. >>...
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| 01:16:31 |
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DESIGN. SO FULL DISCLOSURE, WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY IT WITH CAMERAS ROLLING BUT IN OUR ORIGINAL CONCEPTION OF THE CONFERENCE, I WASN'T GIVING THIS...
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| 01:16:57 |
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IS. >>
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| 01:16:58 |
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RIGHT. BY THAT TIME, HOWEVER, WE HAD A FAIRLY CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT IT WAS STEVE WAS GOING TO DO. SO I DELIBERATELY SET OUT TO ADDRESS A DIFFERENT QUESTION...
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| 01:17:25 |
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TO MON PLOOIZ THE MICROPHONE. I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE OTHERS TO BRING THE PAPERS INTO DIALOGUE. >> WELL, NOT ONLY DO
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| 01:17:36 |
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I AGREE WITH THE THRUST OF BRUCE'S PAPER THAT THERE IS A WAY OF THINKING ABOUT PRESIDENTIAL HISTORY THAT PIVOTS ON THE QUESTION OF STRUCTURE AND AGENCY...
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| 01:18:57 |
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INTERESTING, PRODUCTIVE TENSION IN STEVE'S FORMULATION ABOUT INTELLECTUAL COMMUNITIES. ONE WAY TO READ THE PRESENTATION IS THAT THE CHARACTER OF THE...
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| 01:20:22 |
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OF AN AGENDA HERE, IT WAS TO THINK ABOUT I MEAN USE THE STUDY OF THE PRESIDENCY TO THINK ATE HISTORIANS AND THEIR AUDIENCES. THAT'S SORT OF A PROBLEM...
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| 01:21:11 |
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KLOPPENBERG, USELESS
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| 01:21:12 |
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PERSON. >> YES. ONLY ONE OF MANY. >> I TEACH AMERICAN HISTORY
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| 01:21:17 |
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AT HARVARD. ED SAID HE WAS PUZZLED BECAUSE THIS WAS AN INTELLECTUAL PACKAGE. I WAS STRUCK IT WOULD BE PERFECTLY AT HOME AT THE INTELLECTUAL HISTORY...
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| 01:21:28 |
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WE'RE STRIVING
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| 01:21:29 |
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FOR. >> RIGHT. >> ABOUT IT WAS ABOUT
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| 01:21:31 |
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WRITERS VERSUS PAPER, CONCEPTS, IT WAS ABOUT THE RISE OF THE MODERN STATES AND THE INTERACTION OF IDEAS AND POWER AND INSTITUTIONS AND SOCIAL MOVEMENTS....
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| 01:22:48 |
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AT HARVARD. I WANTED TO RETURN TO AN ISSUE THAT IRA MENTIONED AT THE END, ATTENTION BETWEEN THE SCHOLARLY AND THE POPULAR. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT...
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| 01:24:43 |
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KNEW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION I WOULD BE DOING IT. IT'S PROBABLY THE FIRST ANSWER. I THINK THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE -- IF WE TRY TO PARSE YOUR QUESTION...
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| 01:27:36 |
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THIS DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE HISTORY OF THE PRESIDENTS AND THE HISTORY OF THE PRESIDENCY. THE HISTORY OF THE PRESIDENCY IS A MESS RIGHT NOW. IT'S LIKE...
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| 01:30:39 |
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OPTIMISM, SOUND LIKE A VERY PROVINCIAL STATEMENT, I'M LOOKING AT DAVID GREENBERG AND MASON WILLIAMS, CAPE CRIMINAL THREE, EITHER RECENT -- NOT THAT...
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| 01:32:11 |
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THE HISTORY DEPARTMENT. BUT LIZ, I THINK, IS WRITE ABOUT I THINK THE PARTICULAR SPACE THAT STUDIES OF THE PRESIDENCY OCCUPY AS AN ENTRY POINT TO...
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| 01:33:59 |
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BACK TO DAVID BECAUSE HE WAS MENTIONED BY TWO OF US, BUT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CITE YOUR BOOK AGAIN. >> AND IRA IS
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| 01:34:08 |
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ONLY [ INAUDIBLE ]. I WANTED TO RESPOND TO LIZ'S QUESTION. I WILL SORT OF INDULGE IN CITING MYSELF. I WROTE A PIECE A FEW YEARS AGO THE BEST THING...
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| 01:35:53 |
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IDENTIFYING OURSELVES. NOT YOU, DAVID. YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THAT. >> I'M BILL
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| 01:36:01 |
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GALSTON. I AM NOT A PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN. STEVE, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT YOUR COMMENTS EVER SINCE YOU UTTERED THEM, AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT...
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| 01:37:56 |
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WITH THE FIRST PART, WHICH IS THAT'S -- TO SAY THAT THIS CURRENT STATE OF THE STUDY OF PRESIDENTIAL HISTORY IS A REFLECTION OF THE CURRENT STATE OF...
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| 01:38:58 |
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AND -- >>
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| 01:38:59 |
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RIGHT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT INTERESTS ME ABOUT THESE INTELLECTUAL COMMUNITIES, UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS, RIGHT, SO THIS IS THE HISTORIAN IN ME, UNDER...
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| 01:39:51 |
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MICROPHONE. THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS ALLISON
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| 01:39:55 |
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SILVER. I'M FROM REUTERS RIGHT NOW. I'M AN OPINION EDITOR AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE. I WANTED TO COMMENT ON WHAT YOU SAID AND ALSO...
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| 01:42:15 |
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AS YOU'RE TALKING OF GOODWIN'S TEAM OF RIVALS WHICH I'M NOT -- 19th CENTURY HISTORIAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT 19th CENTURY HISTORIANS THINK ABOUT THE...
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| 01:42:39 |
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SAYING, THERE'S A RELIGIOUS DIMENSION TO IT IN WHICH THE INVOCATION OF CERTAIN PRESIDENTS AT DIFFERENT TIMES TO -- THAT -- TO REPRESENT CERTAIN REAL...
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| 01:43:26 |
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LOSER CATEGORY. IF YOU COMPARED SOMEONE TO COOLIDGE, THAT WAS NOT A GOOD THING. NOW, WELL, WHO KNOWS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A GOOD THING OR NOT, BUT...
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| 01:43:55 |
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OF RIVALS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE IT WAS JUST ABOUT THE TIME THAT OBAMA WAS PICKING HILLARY CLINTON AND THAT -- THE BOOK BECAME VERY CONTEMPORARY....
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| 01:44:11 |
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BERNSTEIN, TULANE UNIVERSITY. FOLLOWING ON A COMMENT LIZ COHEN MADE, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THE REACTION OF THE PANEL, THE ENTRY POINTS TO THE PUBLIC...
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| 01:45:44 |
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EXPERTISE ON THIS AND PEOPLE CAN CORRECT ME IF THESE IMPRESSIONS I HAVE WRONG, BUT I THINK THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE READERSHIP, THE PURCHASING PUBLIC...
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| 01:47:09 |
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OKAY. I WOULD AGREE THAT'S SOMETHING -- IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW CAN SCHOLARS WRITE ABOUT THE PRESIDENTS IN WAYS THAT REACH PEOPLE, IT'S A VERY...
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| 01:47:47 |
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IN THE MILLER CENTER. THIS QUESTION IS FOR STEVE, AND THIS -- I GUESS IT FOLLOWS A LITTLE ON BILL'S QUESTION BEFORE. I THINK BILL WAS WONDERING...
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| 01:48:38 |
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LET ME SAY THAT WHAT I THINK IS A MESS IS THE STUDY OF PRESIDENTIAL -- OF THE HISTORY OF THE PRESIDENCY, THE HISTORY OF THE PRESIDENCY, WHERE IT SEEMS...
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| 01:49:12 |
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POLITICAL -- >> IT'S
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| 01:49:15 |
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CONSTITUTIONALIZED THE PROBLEM AT THE LEVEL OF POLITICAL SCIENCE LIKES THE CONSTITUTIONAL LAWYERS HAVE CONSTITUTIONALIZED THE LEVEL OF HISTORY. I...
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| 01:49:30 |
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TWO FEATURES OF THIS, OF THE TURN WHICH ARE VERY PRODUCTIVE, JUST AS THERE ARE FEATURES WHICH CAN BE DELL TARES YOU. THE VERY PROCTDUCTIVE IS THE...
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| 01:51:40 |
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OVER, BUT IT STILL LEAVES US 15 MINUTES BEFORE OUR NEXT PANEL. I WANT TO THANK THE PANELISTS FOR GETTING OFF TO A GREAT START. # [ APPLAUSE ] >>...
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