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Casey, Libby - Host
AT THIS TIME WE LOOK AT YOUR MONEY IS, HOW THE PROGRAMS SPENT AND WHO THE PROGRAM'S BENEFITS. OUR GUEST THIS MORNING IS DAVID MAURER. AND WE'RE TALKING...
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Maurer, David - Director
A SUITE OF GRANTS THAT THEY PROVIDE MAINLY TO STATE GOVERNMENTS TO PREVENT TERRORIST ATTACKS AND NATURAL DISASTERS. HOST: GIVE US SOME
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Casey, Libby - Host
DETAILS. ARE THEY VERY DIFFERENTIATED? IS THERE AN OVERARCHING VISION OF THE MALL? GUEST: DARI
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Maurer, David - Director
WIDE NUMBER OF GRANTS. IT VARIES FROM YEAR TO YEAR. THE LARGEST GRANTS ARE CONSIDERED FORMULA GRANTS TO GO TO STATES AND URBAN AREAS TO PREVENT A TERRORIST...
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Casey, Libby - Host
ABOUT $38 BILLION AWARDED SINCE THE 2002 THROUGH 2011. WHY IS ALL OF US FROM WASHINGTON? GUEST: THAT IS ROOTED
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Maurer, David - Director
IN THE WHOLE ISSUE OF FEDERALISM. THE CONCEPT IS THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD THE MEDIA RESPONDERS TO THE -- ANY SORT OF INCIDENT. IF THEY CANNOT HANDLE...
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Casey, Libby - Host
INTO DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THE GRANTS HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL? GUEST: THAT HAS BEEN A
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Maurer, David - Director
PROBLEM FROM DAY ONE WITH THESE GRANT PROGRAMS COULD IN THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE AT GAO OVER THE YEARS WE HAVE FOUND SOME SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES IN...
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Casey, Libby - Host
AND GET INVOLVED? GIVE US AN IDEA OF THEIR ROLE IN EXAMINING HOW FEDERAL DOLLARS ARE SPENT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS REGARD GUEST: DIEGO WAS PART OF THE U.S....
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Casey, Libby - Host
RECENT STORY COMING TO US FROM THE OPEN OF BALTIMORE SUN -- THE STORY IS TALKING ABOUT A STUDY THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE GAO DID. THE WAS LED BY...
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Maurer, David - Director
WHAT TO SPEND MONEY ON? THE CONCEPT THAT THE LOCAL COMMUNITY WILL BE BETTER POSITIONED TO CHOOSE -- TO DECIDE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL STAY OUT...
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Casey, Libby - Host
KANSAS CITY, THEY PURCHASED IN BOMB DETECTION -- A BOMB DETECTION ROBOTS DESPITE ALREADY HAVING TWO. IT SAT LARGELY UNUSED AND WAS BROUGHT BACK ON LINE...
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DO THEY APPLIED TO THEM GUEST: THEY APPLY TO ALL OF FEDERATED TERRITORIES AS WELL. IN SOME AREAS, THERE ARE STATUTORY MINIMUM AMOUNTS THAT HAVE TO BE...
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Casey, Libby - Host
LIKE TO JOIN THE CONVERSATION AND TALKED TO DAVID MAURER ABOUT A HOMELAND SECURITY GRANTS TO STATES, HERE ARE THE NUMBERS TO CALL. WHAT FORMULA DID THE...
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Maurer, David - Director
PROGRAM TO PROGRAM, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, AS A FIRST CUT, DHS TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION THE RISK. IN OTHER WORDS, IT WANTS TO PROVIDE THE MONEY MORE...
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Casey, Libby - Host
ON THE DEMOCRAT'S LINE. CALLER: I'M
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CALLER, -
WONDERING, SINCE THIS PAST SCHOOL SHOOTING WHY WE ARE NOT ABLE TO AGGRESSIVELY PUT METAL DETECTORS BEFORE THE ENTRY TO A SCHOOL. LIKE THE PRISON SYSTEMS...
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Maurer, David - Director
THAT IS A VERY TOPICAL QUESTION, GIVEN WHAT HAS JUST HAPPEN. THERE ARE PROGRAMS TYPICALLY PROVIDED BY JURISDICTIONS. THEY MAKE DIFFERENT DECISIONS OF...
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Maurer, David - Director
QUESTION. THERE IS NOT A GOOD FRAMEWORK IN PLACE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE IS DOING A GOOD JOB WITH THE MONEY OR A BAD JOB. SOME OF THE EXAMPLES...
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Casey, Libby - Host
LET'S GO TO JEAN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. CALLER: I WAS JUST
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ASKING WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM. WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM, THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN WASTE? HOST: DO YOU WANT
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Casey, Libby - Host
TO BE MORE SPECIFIC? CALLER: THE CONFERENCES,
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THE GAO CONFERENCES. GUEST: THAT IS A
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Maurer, David - Director
GOOD QUESTION. LET ME MAKE SOMETHING CLEAR RIGHT OFF. THERE WAS A SCANDAL WITH CONFERENCES. THERE WAS A FELLOW AGENT IN THE GENERAL SERVICES AT AGENCY,...
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Casey, Libby - Host
ONE OF THE GRANTS THAT HAVE BEEN USED BY DHS WITH A HALO COUNTER-TERRORISM SUMMIT IN 2012. IT WAS HELD AT THE PARADISE POINT RESORT ON AN ISLAND OUTSIDE...
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TO FIND OUR WHAT FEDERAL TAXPAYER MONEY GOES TOWARD. I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. BUT IT IS AN ILLUSTRATIVE EXAMPLE OF A WHO ALLOWS -- WHO DECIDES...
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Casey, Libby - Host
SAYING, HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT IS JUST A MODERN DAY TERM FOR YOUR MARKS. SHARING HIS OPINION. LET'S GO TO PAT. CALLER: YOU STOLE
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CALLER, -
MY THUNDER WITH THOSE OF THE QUESTION BECAUSE THAT WAS MINE. BUT ARE ALSO INTERESTED IF YOU CAN PUT ON A ZOMBIE DEMONSTRATION AND BE PRECLUDED FROM PUTTING...
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Maurer, David - Director
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TRAINING EXERCISES CONDUCTED DIYALA ACROSS THE STATE AND LOCAL AND FEDERAL LEVELS AT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT AREAS. YOU...
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Casey, Libby - Host
ASKS, WHY IS IT ANYTHING DONE AFTER THE ISSUANCE OF GAO REPORTS? GUEST: IN MOST CASES,
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Maurer, David - Director
ACTION IS TAKEN IN RESPONSE TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRACK GLOBALLY AS A PERCENTAGE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE IMPLEMENTED....
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Casey, Libby - Host
HOST: NEXT CALL FROM INDIANA. CALLER: I WOULD ASK
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CALLER, -
C-SPAN TO URGE TRILAND TO COME BACK TO FRIDAYS. WE MISS HIM MUCH. -- BRIAN WHAM TO COME BACK TO FRIDAYS. WE MISS HIM VERY MUCH. IT SEEMS WE ARE ON COLLAPSE...
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Maurer, David - Director
VERITABLE ALPHABET SOUP OF ALL THESE TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO ADDRESS A WIDE TO -- WIDE VARIETY OF SECURITY ISSUES AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL...
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Casey, Libby - Host
MAURER IS PART OF THE HOLLEN SECURITY OFFICE. LET'S -- HOMELAND SECURITY OFFICE. LET'S LOOK AT A COUPLE OF THE KEY AREAS IN THE GRANT PROGRAM. ONE IS...
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Maurer, David - Director
FEMA WILL DETERMINE WHAT CAPABILITIES TO THE STATES NEED TO CHANGE. WHAT LEVEL ARE THEY AT? WHAT MONEY SHOULD GO TO FUND THE GAPS? BUT THE STATES MAKE...
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Casey, Libby - Host
WE SEE SOME OF THE BIGGEST STATES IN RED. CALIFORNIA AND NEW YORK, AND THEN THE COLOR SCHEME GOES DOWN FROM THEIR DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'VE...
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Maurer, David - Director
COMBINATION OF DAUD AND ALSO BECAUSE OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER BOMBING. IT IS A MAJOR TERRORIST TARGET. IN CALIFORNIA, YOU HAVE A LARGE POPULATION CENTERS....
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Casey, Libby - Host
WAS SPENT ON AN UNDERWATER ROBOT IN COLUMBUS, OHIO. IS IT HARDER FOR URBAN AREAS OUTSIDE OF METROPOLITAN AREAS TO JUSTIFY THE GRANTS AND FIND WAYS TO...
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Maurer, David - Director
GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT TENDS TO GO TO THE LARGER JURISDICTIONS, BECAUSE AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE, THOSE ARE THE ONES AT THE GREATEST RISK AND POTENTIAL TARGETS...
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Casey, Libby - Host
ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE. CALLER: THERE HAVE
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CALLER, -
BEEN SECURITY BREACHES AT NUCLEAR PLANTS. PEOPLE COMING IN THAT WERE NOT EMPLOYEES. WHAT KIND OF FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDED FOR STATES WITH NUCLEAR...
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Maurer, David - Director
KEY FOCUSES OF DHS GRANTS, AS YOU CORRECTLY POINT OUT. A NUCLEAR FACILITY PRESENTS A TEMPTING TARGET FOR POTENTIAL TERRORIST ATTACK. THE GOOD NEWS IS...
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Casey, Libby - Host
THAT THERE IS A NEED IN YOUR COMMUNITY, CAN YOU GET THE SECURITY IN THE AREA?
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Maurer, David - Director
GUEST: AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, YOU CAN WORK THROUGH YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RAISE IT UP TO THE STATES GOVERNMENT TO SAY, WE THINK THERE IS A VIABLE NEED...
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Casey, Libby - Host
RICK. A A CALLER: ARE THERE SUNSET PROVISIONS FOR THESE GRANTS? SO THAT THEY ARE NON RECURRING PROBLEMS, IF THEY ARE A PROBLEM? AND IF THEY ARE MEANINGFUL,...
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Maurer, David - Director
GOOD QUESTION. AS A GENERAL PROPOSITION, ALL OF THESE GRANTS HAVE BEEN AUTHORIZED INTO LAW. EVERY YEAR, CONGRESS MAKES SOME SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS AND THE...
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Casey, Libby - Host
ON THE DEMOCRAT'S LINE. CALLER: HELLO, AND THANKS
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FOR TAKING MY CALL. THE REASON I'M CALLING IS, THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT GOVERNMENT BEING TOO BIG. AND THEY'VE BEEN TARGETTING THE ENTITLEMENT...
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Maurer, David - Director
QUESTION AND IT MEETS UP WITH A POLICY DISCUSSION. AFTER 9/11, YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER THERE WAS AN IMPETUS AND DESIRE TO BRING TOGETHER ALL OF THE HOMELAND...
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Casey, Libby - Host
MAURER FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF, AND SECURITY OFFICE. WE'RE LOOKING AT HOMELAND SECURITY GRANTS FOR STATES. THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A DECADE NOW, SINCE...
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Maurer, David - Director
THINGS ARE DESIGNED TO BE WHAT DHS CALLS "ALL HAZARDS. OR THEY COULD BE USED TO RESPOND TO A TERRORIST INCIDENT, BUT ALSO TO SEARCH AND RESCUE AND ABROAD...
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Casey, Libby - Host
HOST: CHRIS, GO AHEAD. CALLER: MY
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QUESTION IS FROM THE FUSION CENTERS. IT SEEMS LIKE WE DO NOT KNOW THE ARGOS OF THINGS LIKE GUEST: I HONESTLY DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH HAS BEEN SPENT FOR...
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Casey, Libby - Host
COMES FROM BALTIMORE, MARYLAND. CALLER: I HAVE
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A QUESTION FOR DAVID MAURER. IS HE ON THERE NOW? HOST:
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Casey, Libby - Host
YES, HE IS. CALLER: I HAVE
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CALLER, -
A GRANDSON WITH HIS MASTER'S DEGREE IN HOMELAND SECURITY. WHERE DOES HE GO TO FILL OUT APPLICATIONS TO WORK FOR HOMELAND ITSELF AND NOT THESE SUBCONTRACTORS...
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Maurer, David - Director
ONE PLACE HE CAN GO IS THE OVERALL FEDERAL WEBSITE TO APPLY FOR A VARIETY OF JOBS, WHICH ISN'T USAJOBS.GOV AND HE CAN LOOK ADD -- WHICH IS USAJOBS.GOV....
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Casey, Libby - Host
WHETHER THEY ARE GETTING A BANG FOR THEIR BUCK? GUEST: IN DECEMBER, WE
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Maurer, David - Director
ISSUED A REPORT ON THE SUBJECT AND FOUND THE ROUTE THAT DHS WAS AMONG THE LOWEST ACROSS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. BUT IT IS A LARGE APARTMENT, OVER 230,000...
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Casey, Libby - Host
LOOKING EARLIER A FEDERAL AGENCIES AND HOW THEY RANK IN TERMS OF JOB SATISFACTION. HERE IS FEDERAL WORKER SATISFACTION LEVEL FROM THE "WASHINGTON TIMES."...
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GOOD MORNING. NATURALLY, OUR HEARTS GO ON TO ALL OF THE VICTIMS IN CONNECTICUT. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE GENTLEMAN WHY GO ON TO ALL OF THE IS IT ALWAYS...
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Maurer, David - Director
CERTAINLY, THERE'S NO DOUBT OF WHAT HAPPENED JUST A FEW DAYS AGO WAS TERRIBLE AND VIOLENT AND TRAGIC. AND THERE ARE NOT APPROPRIATE WORDS TO PUT A LABEL...
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Casey, Libby - Host
ABOUT TERRORISM. YOU'VE ALREADY GIVEN SOME INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THESE GRANTS ARE JUSTIFIED AND WHETHER THEY PERTAIN TO PREVENTING A TERRORIST THREAT...
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Maurer, David - Director
A RATHER BROAD LOOK AT TERRORISM. IT IS BASICALLY, ANY ACTION DESIGNED WITH A POLITICAL CONTENT IN MIND. THOSE ARE THE INSTANCES IT IS DESIGNED TO PROTECT...
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Casey, Libby - Host
TO ANCHORAGE, ALASKA. LARRY IS AN INDEPENDENT. CALLER: LET'S ASSUME
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CALLER, -
THE PUBLIC IS CYNICAL ABOUT GOVERNMENT SPENDING, AND WE CAN PROBABLY ASSUME THAT. DOESN'T HOMELAND SECURITY RUN THE RISK OF A PUBLIC LOOKING UPON THE...
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Maurer, David - Director
GUEST: THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION AND THAT IS SOMETHING THE DEPARTMENT IS CERTAINLY CONCERNED ABOUT PREPARE THEY ARE TAKING ACTIONS TO -- CONCERNED ABOUT....
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Casey, Libby - Host
REPORT BY SENATOR TOM COBURN, WE TALK TO OUR HE HAS BEEN CRITICAL OF WHAT HE CONSIDERS TO BE WASTE IN THESE HOMELAND SECURITY GRANTS. HAS THERE BEEN...
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Maurer, David - Director
IS IMPORTANT THAT THESE KINDS OF INEFFICIENCIES ARE POINTED OUT. OVERSIGHT IS IMPORTANT. I THINK TAXPAYERS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT THEIR MONEY IS BEING...
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Casey, Libby - Host
IS A DEMOCRAT PREPARED -- A DEMOCRAT. CALLER: AS FAR AS ALL
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CALLER, -
THE SECURITY AND COVERAGE THAT WE HAVE FOR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, WILL THERE BE ANY MORE MONEY COMING FROM HOMELAND SECURITY FOR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES?...
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Casey, Libby - Host
WE LET YOU GO, DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE HOW YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITY USES, AND SECURITY GRANT? WHAT MICHIGAN DOES WITH THE MONEY GETS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?...
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CALLER, -
HAVE POLITICIANS THE DO THEIR BEST. WHAT EXACTLY DO, I'M NOT SURE. GUEST: THE ISSUE
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Maurer, David - Director
OF MENTAL HEALTH IS CERTAINLY A MAJOR ONE FACING THE U.S. RAN OUT AND WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE TRAGIC INCIDENTS AS LAST WEEK UNDERSCORED THE NEED SOME...
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Casey, Libby - Host
GENERALLY HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THEIR STATES ARE USING THE HOMELAND SECURITY GRANTS FOR? IS IT ON THE WEBSITE OR THEIR CLEARING HOUSES? GUEST: WE ISSUED
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Maurer, David - Director
A REPORT EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT LOOKED SPECIFICALLY AT THAT QUESTION ON THE PERSPECTIVE OF DHS. AFTER DHS PROVIDES THE MONEY, DO THEY KNOW WHAT IT SPENT...
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Casey, Libby - Host
REPUBLICAN LINE. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: WHILE WE
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CALLER, -
SAVED A LOT OF TAXPAYER MONEY AND DO WHAT OTHER COUNTRIES DO, WE CAN BRING SOME OF OUR TROOPS HOME, WE CAN KEEP THEM TRAINING FOR ACTION. WE CAN PUT...
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Maurer, David - Director
POINT ABOUT SECURING THE SOUTHWEST BORDER. THE FOUR OPERATING BASIS, FOBS, IS A MILITARY TERM. THE BORDER PATROL ORGANIZATION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CARRYING...
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Casey, Libby - Host
HOST: HERE IS A TWEET. GUEST: THERE
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Maurer, David - Director
ARE MANY DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE RECEIVING THESE FUNDS AND PERFORMED A NUMBER OF FUNCTIONS. ONE OF THE VIRAL THINGS THAT WE ARE ALWAYS ASKING...
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Casey, Libby - Host
LOOKED AT THE MONEY IS GIVEN OUT TO STATES THAT ARE ALSO RUNNING THEIR OWN FEDERAL PROGRAM? GUEST:
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Maurer, David - Director
THESE PROGRAMS ARE BROUGHT IN TERMS OF THEIR PURPOSE. THEY OVERLAP IN TERMS OF WHO CAN ACTUALLY RECEIVE FUNDS AT THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVELS. IT RAISES...
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Casey, Libby - Host
GO TO ORDER IN VIRGINIA.
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CALLER: GOOD MORNING. THE TERRORISM THE STARTED WITH 9/11 HAS SEEMED TO MAKE US BECOME VICTIMS. LOOK AT THE INTERNAL TERRORISM NEVER SEVERED LAST WEEK....
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| 00:37:21 |
Casey, Libby - Host
LIVE IN CALIFORNIA AND WE SAW ON THIS MAP THAT CALIFORNIA GETS THE MOST MONEY FOR SECURITY IN INITIATIVES IN DHS FUNDS. DO YOU THINK THAT CALIFORNIA...
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CALLER, -
WITH THE FEDERAL LEVEL. BUT YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO JUST CREATE ANOTHER BUREAUCRACY NABHAN NOT PRODUCE RESULTS REGARDING SAFETY, ESPECIALLY INTERNAL...
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Maurer, David - Director
TERRORISM IS A PROBLEM THAT HAS PLAGUED THE U.S. FOR MANY YEARS. IT CERTAINLY DID NOT START WITH THE ATTACKS OF 9/11. PEOPLE REMEMBER THE OKLAHOMA CITY...
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Casey, Libby - Host
MAURER WITH THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY -- AND DAVID MAURER WITH THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. THAT IS ALL FOR...
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