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AFTERNOON. WELCOME. I AM THE DIRECTOR HERE AT THE HUDSON INSTITUTE THE CENTER ON ISLAM DEMOCRACY IN THE FUTURE OF THE ISLAM WORLD. WHICH PUBLISHES A...
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| 00:23:27 |
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I WOULD BEGAN WITH THE THINGS THAT EVERYONE WORRIED ABOUT WHEN I LEFT BECAUSE MOST EVERYONE I KNEW THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY. THEY THOUGHT I WAS GOING INTO...
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| 00:26:48 |
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BIT ABOUT, SOME THINGS FURTHER ABOUT EASE THREE MISCONCEPTIONS AND RATHER TO PROMPT YOU, TO TELL LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF. FOR EXAMPLE THE FIRST ONE...
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| 00:28:19 |
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ACTUALLY. >>
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| 00:28:20 |
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APARTHEID. WHAT WAS THE EXPERIENCE AND HOW WOULD YOU COMPARE THAT WITH WHAT HE EXPERIENCED? >>
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| 00:28:26 |
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HE WAS REALLY VERY HOTHEADED ABOUT THE SUBJECT AS HE LIVED WITH IT AND HE WAS PERSONA NON GRATA WITH THE GOVERNMENT. IN FACT, THEY HAD SENT A JOURNALIST...
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| 00:28:39 |
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WHEN HE WAS IN SOUTH AFRICA AND THE GUY WARNED HIM TO GET OUT OF THE COUNTRY. HE SAID YOU ARE GOING TO END UP GETTING LOCKED UP. AND SO HE FLED AND...
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| 00:30:42 |
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TELL SOME OTHER THINGS IN THE BOOK, YOU KNOW, REJECT THE NOTION THAT ESSENTIALLY THE JEWISH AND ARAB OR MUSLIM FOR THAT MATTER ARE SIMPLY SEPARATE WHICH...
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| 00:31:46 |
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EYESHADOW. WHETHER IT SHOULD BE FROSTED OR WHETHER IT SHOULD MATCH THE HEADSCARF OR NOT MATCH THE HEADSCARF AND SERIOUSLY, I WENT FROM THERE TO LUNCH...
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| 00:32:31 |
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DO. DESCRIBE THE AMERICAN TOURIST. >> WELL, LITTLE FANNY
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| 00:32:34 |
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PACKS. MOST OF THEM ARE OVER 60 AND HAVE BACKPACKS AND THAT IS HOW THEY DESCRIBE THEM. IT'S SO MIXED AND NOBODY IS PAYING ANY ATTENTION. IT'S LAUGHABLE....
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| 00:32:56 |
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AND PERHAPS SUBLIME, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, THIS WOMAN YOU MET WHO WORKS AT THE HOSPITAL WHICH IS IN THE RELIGIOUS CORRIDOR OF JERUSALEM AND I GATHER,...
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| 00:33:22 |
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PERSONAL DIRECTOR AT THE HOSPITAL. SHE IS NOT A RELIGIOUS JEW BUT IT'S A VERY KOSHER HOSPITAL AND HE KEEPS VERY CRUCIAL SO ANYBODY CAN GO THERE BUT...
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| 00:36:58 |
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A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT ISRAEL ISN'T AND MOVING INTO WHAT ISRAEL IS. SO, ACTUALLY THERE IS ONE THING I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT AND IT DOES GO BACK TO THE...
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| 00:39:12 |
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BE BETTER IF TOMAS WERE A BETTER MARKSMEN WE'RE THE ISRAELIS TOOK LESS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES BUT IT IGNORES DAY IN AND DAY OUT IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES...
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| 00:39:54 |
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IS RIGHT. RARELY I HAVE NEVER SEEN AS THE STORY OF THESE PEOPLE LIVING WITH THE CONSTANT SIRENS EVERY TIME A ROCKET IS CLOSE BY. THEY HAD 15 SECONDS...
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| 00:44:51 |
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MISCONCEPTIONS OF WHAT LIFE IS LIKE WITH A CITY IN THE NORTH OF ISRAEL STANDING IN THE RUBBLE OF CITY HALL. >> Guest: THOSE
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| 00:45:06 |
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EVER IN SHELTERS WERE UPSET. THEY WANTED IT FINISHED. THEY SAID WE WILL LIVE THERE FOR THREE MONTHS IF THAT IS THE END OF IT. BUT THEY BURN THE TREES...
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| 00:46:27 |
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A JOKE IN ISRAEL THAT BUILDING CRANES ARE CALLED THE NATIONAL BIRD. >> Guest: IT IS
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| 00:46:53 |
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TRUE. AND WITH SURE BOUGHT YOU CANNOT HEAR HEAVY EQUIPMENT BECAUSE IT IS NOISY WITH SO MUCH DESTRUCTION. >> Host: ALSO
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| 00:46:57 |
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ANOTHER EXPERIENCE IS A MUSIC. ALSO, IT SURPRISE YOU? >> Guest: I DID
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| 00:47:19 |
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NOT KNOW THE JEWISH FAMILIES SANG TOGETHER AT THE SHEBAT TABLE AND AT THE HOLIDAYS. THERE ARE CHRISTIAN BUT SONGS THAT ARE SUNG AT A CHURCH SERVICE...
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| 00:51:00 |
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THINK IT IS APPRECIATED BY THE GOATS? >> Guest:
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| 00:51:10 |
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APPARENTLY. THERE WAS AN OUTPOST SETTLEMENT THAT HAD GOAT DAIRY PRODUCTS AND CHICKENS. THE BARN WAS BEAUTIFUL EVEN WITH SKYLIGHTS. THERE IS A PIANO...
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| 00:51:54 |
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Host: NOW A SUBJECT THAT IS REALLY TO SUBJECTS. THE SITUATION OF JEWS AND CHRISTIANS IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES. ONE IS THE STORY OF THE JEWS WHO LIVED IN THE...
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| 00:53:54 |
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RIGHT. FIRST OF ALL, I CAME ACROSS A SUBJECT WHEN I WAS AT A CONFERENCE WHEN I WAS AT HUDSON. I HAD A BLANK SPOT ON MY CALENDAR AND WANDERED INTO A...
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| 00:59:48 |
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ME WITH THE SITUATION OF THE EGYPTIAN CHRISTIANS THAT WAS A HUGE PART OF THE POPULATION. OUR COLLEAGUE WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE BUT WAS BUMPED FROM A FLIGHT...
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| 01:00:27 |
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FOR CHRISTIANS. >> Host: THIS SHOULD
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| 01:00:49 |
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BE APPRECIATED BY PEOPLE. YOU COMPLAIN THAT CHRISTIANS DON'T PAY ENOUGH ATTENTION. >>
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| 01:00:54 |
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Guest: IT IS HARD TO WAKE PEOPLE UP. SOME PARTICULAR GROUPS DON'T NECESSARILY IDENTIFY WITH THE ANCIENT CHURCH. THOSE THAT HAVE THE OLD LITURGY ARE...
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| 01:02:09 |
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STORY IF THE REFERENCE IS CORRECT, THE MAN THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT IS THE MAN WHO WAS A PRIEST? >> Guest:
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| 01:02:25 |
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THAT WAS A DIFFERENT MAN AND DIED A COUPLE YEARS AGO. >> Host: THIS WAS ONE
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| 01:02:48 |
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SAD STORY. WHAT HE MOSELEY HAD TO TALK ABOUT HOW ARAB CHRISTIANS WERE DRIVEN OUT OF THE WEST BANK. BUT HIS OWN LIFE STORY WAS CHARMING AND INTERESTING....
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| 01:03:37 |
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GRIEVED. THEY COULD NOT VISIT BACK AND FORTH WITH ALL OF THE CHANGES. ISRAELIS CANNOT GO TO BETHLEHEM. HE WAS REALLY SAD AND THEY MISSED HIS FRIENDS....
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| 01:03:56 |
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IS A RARE TO SPEAK ARAMAIC AS YOUR NATIVE TONGUE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY LEFT. >> Guest:
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| 01:04:01 |
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JUST IN THE CHURCH WITH THE LITURGY. THIS MAN TOLD A STORY BEFORE HE WENT TO ISRAEL, HE WAS A PRIEST THAT WAS DEVOTED TO ST. MARY. THIS ONE YEAR FOR...
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| 01:06:25 |
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A SUBJECT, WHY DID YOU GO TO ISRAEL? WHY DID YOU STAY? WHAT DO ISRAELIS KNOW ABOUT CHRISTIANS? HOW DO THEY ENDERS STAND CHRISTIANITY? WHEN YOU WENT...
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| 01:07:19 |
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BY SAYING WHY I WENT TO ISRAEL. I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO SEE ISRAEL. MY FATHER WAS A ZIONIST CHRISTIAN AND I WOULD SEND $15 PER MONTH TO SOME ORGANIZATION....
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| 01:11:55 |
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Host: I KNOW. I HAVE MANY MORE QUESTIONS. ONE ISSUE THAT COMES UP POWERFULLY IN THE BOOK, COMING UP IN DIFFERENT WAYS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT AT THE NEWS...
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| 01:14:49 |
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NO. THE REASON ISRAELIS CAN BE JOYFUL TO HAVE HOLIDAYS AND SINGING THEY HAVE THE PERSPECTIVE OF DEATH THAT AMERICANS DON'T HAVE. THE MEMORIAL SERVICE...
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| 01:14:57 |
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I TAKE IT FOR GRANTED THAT HE WAS THE COMMANDER OF THE RAID OF 1976 WHICH WAS A SPECTACULAR COMMANDER RAID THEIR RESCUED PEOPLE WHO WERE TAKEN HOSTAGE...
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| 01:15:21 |
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WAS MIRACULOUS. ALSO THE OLDER BROTHER OF PRIME MINISTER THAT CONNEAUT TO AND THERE WAS ANOTHER BROTHER. SO HE IS QUITE A GREAT HERO IN THEIR EYES....
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| 01:17:14 |
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MUCH , LELA. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY? >> Guest:
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| 01:17:20 |
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NO. [LAUGHTER] I HAVE SAID THE NET. >> Host: GO OUT
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| 01:17:24 |
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AND BUY THE BOOK "SATURDAY PEOPLE, SUNDAY PEOPLE". [APPLAUSE] >> Host:
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.