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00:00:03
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
TO THE LAST HOUR OF THE "WASHINGTON JOURNAL" AS WE CONTINUE OUR LOOK AT THE BUSH ERA TAX CUTS ROUNDTABLE. WE ARE JOINED BY ALEX PROPOFOL AND ETHAN POLLACK....
00:00:36
Unidentified Speaker, -
I THINK.COM DEPENDS ON WHAT THE OBJECTIVES WERE. IT IS HARD TO HAVE FORECASTED TODAY TREMENDOUSLY LARGE SURPLUSES. SOME OF THE SURPLUSES WOULD HAVE BEEN...
00:01:53
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
DID IT CREATE JOBS?
00:01:55
Brill, Alex - Research Fellow
GUEST: THE TAX POLICY ITSELF DOES NOT CREATE JOBS. EMPLOYERS CREATE JOBS. THERE WAS A RECESSION AND AT THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION IN THE BEGINNING AND ONE...
00:02:37
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
DID THE BUSH TAX CUTS WORK? GUEST: THEY DID WORK IN
00:02:41
Pollack, Ethan - Member
THE SENSE THAT THEY COST A LOT OF MONEY AND REDUCED SURPLUSES. 80% OF THE DEBT ADDED DURING THE TERM WAS THE BUSH TAX CUT. AND IF YOU LOOK EXPERTS FROM...
00:04:14
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
BUSH EXTENDED THESE BUSH TAX CUTS IN 2010? GUEST: THAT IS A GOOD
00:04:19
Pollack, Ethan - Member
QUESTION. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THE AMOUNT OF FISCAL STIMULUS THAT HE GOT THERE. HE GOT AN EXTENSION OF THE PAYROLL TAX CUT. IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO...
00:04:53
Brill, Alex - Research Fellow
GUEST: I THINK THEY SHOULD. KEEPING IN MARGINAL TAX RATE AS LOW AS POSSIBLE IS ONE THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH ECONOMIC GROWTH. I AGREE THAT THE TAX RATES...
00:06:14
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
EXTEND ALL OF THE BUSH ERA TAX CUTS? GUEST: NO, I
00:06:20
Pollack, Ethan - Member
DON'T THINK SO. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUSH ERA TAX CUTS, BUT ALSO THE OVERALL FISCAL CLIFF. WE ARE TRYING TO RENAME IT TO A FISCAL OBSTACLE COURSE. WE...
00:07:49
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
TIMES" REPORTS THAT TOM COBURN SAID TO HIS OTHER REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES YESTERDAY, LET'S JUST EXTEND THE TAX CUTS FOR THOSE MAKING $250,000 OR LESS NOW...
00:08:22
Brill, Alex - Research Fellow
GUEST: THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID THE SAME THING. THERE HAS BEEN LEGISLATION AND EXTEND SOME OF THE TAX CUTS AND NOT OTHERS. I THINK THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS...
00:10:03
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
TO JOE, A REPUBLICAN CARLA. CALLER: THIS
00:10:10
CALLER, -
IS FOR ETHAN. YOU MADE A COMMENT EARLIER DEPTH THEY INHERITED THE RECORDS OF SURPLUS. THAT IS A LIE. THERE WAS A PROJECTED SURPLUS. YOU FORGET THAT GEORGE...
00:10:56
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
RESPONSE. GUEST: WHEN I
00:10:59
Pollack, Ethan - Member
WAS TALKING ABOUT SURPLUSES ARE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE EIGHT YEARS OF BILL CLINTON WHEN WE ACTUALLY DID HAVE SURPLUSES. THERE WERE ALSO THE PROJECTED...
00:12:10
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
DEMOCRATIC LINE, BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA. CALLER: MY STATEMENT
00:12:16
CALLER, -
HAS TO DO WITH THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND GROVER NORQUIST. IT APPEARS THAT ALL OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES TOOK AN OATH WITH GROVER NORQUIST. AND THEY...
00:13:15
Brill, Alex - Research Fellow
TALK IN RECENT WEEKS ABOUT THE PLEDGE. THE MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS HAVE SIGNED THE PLEDGE, HOUSE REPUBLICANS. WE HAVE SEEN IN RECENT DAYS AND WEEKS,...
00:14:30
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
LET'S GO TO MICHIGAN. CALLER:
00:14:31
CALLER, -
THESE PEOPLE CALL YOU AND THEY ARE SO COOL, CALM, AND COLLECTED, BUT LISTEN, THE REASON I'M CALLING -- WAIT, REAL QUICK. BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING...
00:15:51
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
HANG UP AND LISTEN TO THE ANSWER. HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO CALCULATE JOBS BECAUSE OF THE BUSH ERA TAX CUTS? GUEST: WE HAVE REALLY GOOD
00:16:03
Brill, Alex - Research Fellow
DATA ON JOBS. THE WINDOW ON A MONTHLY BASIS HOW MANY JOBS ARE BEING CREATED OR LOST. -- WE KNOW ON A MONTHLY BASIS HOW MANY JOBS ARE BEING CREATED OR...
00:17:50
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
TO DOUG IN HOUSTON, TEXAS. A REPUBLICAN CALLER. CALLER: ETHAN
00:17:57
CALLER, -
MADE A STATEMENT ABOUT THAT POLICY SHOULD NOT BE ENDORSED. -- BAD POLICY SHOULD NOT BE ENDORSED. THE REALITY IS, BY CONTINUING TO GIVE THE GOVERNMENT...
00:18:55
Pollack, Ethan - Member
THERE WAS THE 47% COMMENT. MOST OF THE 47% STILL PAY PAYROLL TAXES BECAUSE THEY ARE EMPLOYED. THEY PAY STATE AND LOCAL TAXES, SALES TAXES. AND THOSE...
00:20:39
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
A COMMENT. THE ATTACKS SHOULD GO ON EVERYONE. IF AMERICANS CAN SPEND $30 MILLION A WEEK AT THE MOVIES, WE CAN ABSORB THE INCREASE.
00:20:51
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
HOST: GOOD MORNING, CARL. CALLER: THE
00:20:56
CALLER, -
GENTLEMAN, ALEX, HE IS DISINGENUOUS. BUSH INHERITED MORE MONEY AND LEFT IT $1 TRILLION IN DEBT TO MR. OBAMA, OUR PRESIDENT. WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAD...
00:21:30
Brill, Alex - Research Fellow
QUESTION OF WHERE THE DEFICIT CAME FROM, WHERE THE DAETZ COME FROM, FIRST, I WOULD KNOW -- AND NOTE THAT IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS WE HAVE HAD DEFICITS OF...
00:23:35
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
UNDER EISENHOWER KORAN TAXES ON THE -- UNDER EISENHOWER, TAXES ON THE RICH WERE HIGHER. IN NEW JERSEY, INDEPENDENT CALLER. CALLER: PLEASE,
00:23:54
CALLER, -
DON'T CUT ME OFF. AS PRECIOUS AS ARE THE ONLY ONE OUT OF THE FOUR OF US THAT IS PAYING FOR THIS PROGRAM -- ESPECIALLY SINCE I AM THE ONLY ONE OUT OF...
00:25:13
Pollack, Ethan - Member
THANK THE CALLER FOR THE CALL. I THINK THAT IS A FAIR POINT. MY POINT WAS NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT CLINTON'S POLICIES ACTUALLY CAUSED THE ECONOMIC GROWTH...
00:27:02
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
TWITTER, THE WRITERS AS YOUR MEMBERS COULD THE GEORGE BUSH TAX CUTS AND THAT IT'S NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S MONEY. IT BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE. CUTS WILL GIVE...
00:27:22
CALLER, -
CALLER: THE REPUBLICANS ARE MAKING IT SOUND LIKE IT IS ALL THE DEMOCRATS FAULT. ALL THESE TAX CUTS, ALL THESE THINGS GIVEN TO PEOPLE OF ALL THE DEMOCRATS....
00:28:46
Brill, Alex - Research Fellow
IS A GOOD DEAL OF WHAT HE SAID THAT I AGREE WITH. AS I UNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION, HE IS BLAMING THE SITUATION IN LARGE PART NOT JUST IN TERMS OF DOLLARS...
00:31:15
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
ON TWITTER. HAVEN'T BUBBLES FOLLOWED MOST TAX CUTS ON THE VERY WEALTHY OVER THE PAST SEVERAL GENERATIONS? CAUSED BY MORE MONEY FOR SPECULATIVE AND INVESTMENT....
00:31:32
Pollack, Ethan - Member
IS GENERALLY THE CASE THAT TAX CUTS TILTED TOWARD HIGHER-INCOME HOUSEHOLDS HAVE LED TO INCOME INEQUALITY. THE POINT AT WHICH WE HAVE HAD THE HIGHEST IN...
00:32:25
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
COMMENT FROM A VIEWER THAT CONGRESS SHOULD WORK ON REVENUE, NOT RATES. EVERY U.S. CITIZEN PAID $10 TO OF ASSAM, THAT WOULD BE $3 BILLION IN REVENUE. --...
00:32:44
Brill, Alex - Research Fellow
WE NEED TO THINK BROADLY ABOUT THE REVENUE ISSUE, AND AGAIN ABOUT THE DEFICIT ISSUE. REVENUES WILL BE PART OF THE SOLUTION ULTIMATELY. WE HAVE TO KEEP...
00:33:47
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
RATES? WHERE DO THEY COME FROM? WHAT IS THE HISTORY? GUEST: WHY DO
00:33:57
Brill, Alex - Research Fellow
WE HAVE TAX RATES? HOST: THE VARYING TAX
00:34:02
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
RATES, 10%, 6%, UP TO 39.6%, OR WHATEVER. GUEST: IN
00:34:12
Brill, Alex - Research Fellow
2001, THE RATE STARTED AT 15% AND WENT UP TO ABOUT 40%. WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF HAVING -- HAVING A PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX SYSTEM. THERE IS A BIPARTISAN...
00:35:23
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
ON THE AIR. CALLER: MY WIFE AND
00:35:28
CALLER, -
I ARE MIDDLE-INCOME RETIRED AMERICANS. WE ARE RAPIDLY APPROACHING THAT TIME WHEN WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE MANDATORY IRA DISTRIBUTIONS. I TALKED TO ARE COUNTED...
00:36:58
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
ETHAN POLLACK? GUEST: I DON'T
00:37:02
Pollack, Ethan - Member
WANT TO BE A FINANCIAL PLANNER HERE.
00:37:06
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
HOST: FOR PRESERVING WEALTH.
00:37:10
Pollack, Ethan - Member
GUEST: RIGHT. I THINK THE CALLER WAS ACCURATE, AND I WANT TO REITERATE THAT WHEN YOU GO INTO A HIGHER TAX BRACKET, THAT ONLY APPLIES ON THE MARGINAL DOLLARS....
00:39:08
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
TACOMA, WASHINGTON, INDEPENDENT CALLER. CALLER: IN REGARDS
00:39:14
CALLER, -
TO DEVELOPING COUNTRIES, IF YOU SEE -- A DEMOCRACY IS NOT THE BEST WAY TO BRING ABOUT POSITIVE CHANGE TO DEFINE POLITICS, TO SAY THE LEAST. AND WE BEMOAN...
00:40:03
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
ARE HOST: WE ARE RUNNING OUT
00:40:05
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
OF TIME TO GIVE FINAL THOUGHTS AS WE CONCLUDE. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS NEXT ON THIS DEBATE? GUEST: WE ARE WEEKS AWAY
00:40:14
Brill, Alex - Research Fellow
FROM A DEADLINE. AN IMPORTANT ONE. WHERE NOT ONLY OUR TAX POLICY IS GOING TO CHANGE BUT SIGNIFICANT SPENDING CUTS ARE SLATED TO TAKE EFFECT AS WELL....
00:41:07
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
ETHAN? GUEST: I THINK I MAY BE A
00:41:09
Pollack, Ethan - Member
LITTLE MORE HOPEFUL THAN ALEX IS. I THINK THAT THERE'S A GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT THE SEQUESTER WILL HAPPEN. REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS AND THE PRESIDENT...
00:42:26
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
GENTLEMEN. APPRECIATE YOUR HELPING US OUT WITH THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS SO-CALLED FISCAL CLIFF. AND THE CONVERSATION CONTINUES IN WASHINGTON...

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