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Hess, Frederick "Rick" M. - Resident Scholar and Director
TODAY'S PANEL IS ON THE QUESTION OF FOR-PROFIT AND FEDERAL EDUCATION POLICY. THIS IS A TOPIC THAT WE AT AEI HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR AN EXTENDED STRETCH....
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Westendorf, Eric - Co-Founder
SITE THAT GIVES STUDENTS AND TEACHERS HIGH- QUALITY LESSONS. AS A COUNTRY AS A START TO MOVE TOWARD THE COMMON STANDARDS, IT IS REALLY CHALLENGING...
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| 00:09:56 |
Gilmer, Raquel - Chief Operating Officer
LEARN IT WILL WE DECIDED TO BECOME FOR-PROFIT. I DID NOT CONSIDERED IT. I TOOK A PAY CUT. IT IS IMMEDIATELY ASSUME THAT IF YOU ARE FOR PROFIT THAT YEAR...
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| 00:11:29 |
Horn, Michael - Co-Founder and Executive Director
TO RETURN VALUE TO THEIR SHAREHOLDERS YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING THAT PLEASES CUSTOMERS AND KEEPS THEM. IN YOUR CASE DELIVERING GREAT ACADEMIC RESULTS...
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| 00:13:55 |
Hess, Frederick "Rick" M. - Resident Scholar and Director
IS YOUR THINKING AS A FOUNDATION OF HOW TO INVEST, HOW YOU ENGAGE THE STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES WHEN WE LOOK ACROSS THE FOR PROFITS? >> I THINK MICHAEL
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| 00:14:12 |
Childress, Stacey - Deputy Director
OPENS UP A REALLY INTERESTING AREA FOR CONVERSATION. IT IS THE DEGREE TO WHICH INCENTIVES WORK. I THEIR CONSTRAINED THE INNOVATION WE ALL LOOK FOR IN...
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| 00:19:37 |
Hess, Frederick "Rick" M. - Resident Scholar and Director
TO THE CRITICS THAT SAY THEY'RE TRYING TO PRIVATIZE AMERICAN EDUCATION? >> WE DO HEAR THAT FOR ABOUT A FAIR BIT.
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| 00:19:46 |
Childress, Stacey - Deputy Director
IT IS AN INTERESTING CHARGE. GIVEN THAT WE DID NOT SUPPORT FOR-PROFIT SCHOOL OPERATORS AT ALL. IT IS MORE OF A POLICY CHALLENGE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO...
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| 00:22:22 |
Shelton, James "Jim" H. III - Assistant Deputy Secretary
WHERE FEDERAL AND STATE AND LOCAL PLAYERS IN THE POLICY CONTEXT CAN DO THE MOST BENEFIT IN THE ENTIRE SECTOR, AN ART DEALER MAKING SURE THEY LIKE -- IN...
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| 00:25:18 |
Hess, Frederick "Rick" M. - Resident Scholar and Director
COLLEGES HAVE BEEN FUNDED WITH AN ELIGIBLE FEDERAL AID THEY SIMPLY ON STUDENTS ENROLLED. THE FULL EMPLOYMENT WAS TO WRITE SOME REGULATIONS. THERE HAVE...
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| 00:26:14 |
Shelton, James "Jim" H. III - Assistant Deputy Secretary
CONTEXT IS ACTUALLY ABOUT THE SUSPICION OF FOR PROFIT. IT IS NOT NEARLY HELD. FOR-- NARROWLY HELD. THERE WAS A DECISION NOT TO INCLUDE FOR PROFITS. THAT...
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| 00:29:57 |
Childress, Stacey - Deputy Director
ACTORS, THE DESIRE AND PERHAPS EVEN THE WISDOM OF ALLOWING PRIVATE SECTOR AND FOR-PROFIT ACTORS TO GET IN THE GAME TO HELP DRIVE COMPETITION AND QUALITY...
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| 00:32:40 |
Hess, Frederick "Rick" M. - Resident Scholar and Director
YOU MENTIONED BEFORE THE DOUBLE BOTTOM LINE, ACADEMIC OUTCOMES AND FINANCIAL. WHAT ARE THE MATTRESS USED TO DETERMINE WHETHER KIDS ARE BENEFITING OR...
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| 00:33:03 |
Gilmer, Raquel - Chief Operating Officer
DELIVERED THE SERVICE BY HAVING THE STUDENTS SIGNATURE ON THE ATTENDANCE. WE HAVE TO SHOW THAT WE ENGAGE THE PARENT. WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE TEACHER...
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| 00:36:54 |
Horn, Michael - Co-Founder and Executive Director
CERTAIN FOR PROFITS THAT WILL GO THE EXTRA YARD, BECAUSE THE PURCHASERS TO NOT NECESSARILY BY YOU THAT, THERE IS A LOT OF INCENTIVES FOR BEFORE PROFITS...
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| 00:40:35 |
Shelton, James "Jim" H. III - Assistant Deputy Secretary
THERE WAS AN ASSOCIATION TO PROMOTE CHOICE. THERE WAS AN ARGUMENT THAT BROKE OUT ABOUT WHETHER QUALITY SHOULD BE IN THE MISSION STATEMENT. QUALITY WOULD...
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| 00:44:34 |
Hess, Frederick "Rick" M. - Resident Scholar and Director
GIVEN THE TENOR OF THE CONVERSATION, I SUSPECT MANY OF THE TEACHERS TO YOU REACH OUT TO PROBABLY HAVE MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT FOR-PROFIT. WHAT KIND OF RECEPTION...
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| 00:45:00 |
Westendorf, Eric - Co-Founder
PART. I THINK WHAT HE IS POINTING OUT IS THAT IN TERMS OF INCENTIVES, SAID THE GOVERNMENT PLAYS A REALLY IMPORTANT ROLE. IF THERE IS A THREAT OF THAT...
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| 00:48:33 |
Hess, Frederick "Rick" M. - Resident Scholar and Director
THEY'RE NOT SAID THAT TO BE THESE TESTING SITES. THE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE LIMITED DOLLARS. HOW DO WE HELP THESE GUYS GET OUT OF THIS CATCH-22? >> THE ENTIRE...
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| 00:49:03 |
Shelton, James "Jim" H. III - Assistant Deputy Secretary
VALUATIONS TO A LOT OF FOLKS NOT TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THESE THINGS, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT FEDERAL DOLLARS OUGHT TO BE USED FOR. OTHERS ARE ADEPT AT ADVOCATING....
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| 00:51:56 |
Childress, Stacey - Deputy Director
WE'RE HEADING TOWARD CHALLENGE STRUCTURES WHEN IT COMES TO TOOLS AND CONTENT AND THAT AN OLIVE -- CONTENT AND ANALYTICS. WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET THAT...
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| 00:57:03 |
Shelton, James "Jim" H. III - Assistant Deputy Secretary
THEY CAN BUILD UP AN INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY CAN LEARN ON AN ONGOING BASIS. >> AS A PART OF A YOU GET THE BENEFIT OF HAVING DATA SYSTEMS THAT ALLOW YOU...
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| 00:57:56 |
Horn, Michael - Co-Founder and Executive Director
WHAT SORT OF METRICS ARE POSSIBLE? WHAT SORT OF ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEMS YOU CAN START TO PUT IN PLACE? IT CAN SHIPONE OF THE SECTORS LEGITIMATE CONCERNS...
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| 00:59:13 |
Hess, Frederick "Rick" M. - Resident Scholar and Director
ME THAT WHAT IT IS DOING AS MUCH MORE NEATLY ALIGNED THEM WORLD LANGUAGE INSTRUCTION AND OR SIX INSTRUCTION OR LIBERAL ARTS AT A HIGHER LEVEL. IT STRIKES...
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| 01:00:00 |
Gilmer, Raquel - Chief Operating Officer
I THINK THE METRIC IS IMPORTANT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. WE ARE NORMALLY TUTORING FOR ABOUT 40 HOURS. >> 40 HOURS A WEEK? >> 40 HOURS DURING THE COURSE...
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| 01:03:27 |
Hess, Frederick "Rick" M. - Resident Scholar and Director
ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES HERE TO THINK DIFFERENTLY? SERVING PARTICULAR SKILLS OR GRADE LEVELS, ARE THERE WAYS TO GET MORE CREATIVE ABOUT HOW WE ALLOW STATES...
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| 01:03:46 |
Shelton, James "Jim" H. III - Assistant Deputy Secretary
STATES HAVE TAKEN STEPS TO BE MORE CREATIVE AND THINKING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ACTUALLY MATTER AND HOW ARE WE REWARDING SCHOOLS AND PROGRAM. ONE OF THE...
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| 01:05:55 |
Westendorf, Eric - Co-Founder
THIS GOES BACK TO MY EXPERIENCE AS A TEACHER AND PRINCIPAL. IT'S NOT ABOUT IT BEING FOR PROFIT OR NOT FOR PROFIT. IT'S ABOUT TOOLS THAT WORK THAT MAKE...
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| 01:08:27 |
Hess, Frederick "Rick" M. - Resident Scholar and Director
BE ALLOWING THEM TO BE PART OF WHAT THEY CRAFT. JIM MENTIONED A COUPLE OF REASONS WHY THAT'S NOT THE CASE RIGHT NOW. FOR THE FOR-PROFIT SECTOR, HOW...
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| 01:09:03 |
Horn, Michael - Co-Founder and Executive Director
ECONOMICS. THAT WOULD BE A KEY PART OF THIS. SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE UPSIDE TO BEGIN WITH. PART OF THAT CHALLENGE AND WHAT YOU OFTEN HEAR IS FOR...
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| 01:12:39 |
Hess, Frederick "Rick" M. - Resident Scholar and Director
KIND ENOUGH TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF BY NAME AND
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Q & A
AFFILIATION AND PLEASE ACTUALLY ASK THE QUESTION. IF WE GET 50 OR 20 SECONDS IN AND I DON'T SEE A QUESTION IN SIGHT, WE WILL GIVE SOMEONE ELSE A CHANCE....
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| 01:14:49 |
Horn, Michael - Co-Founder and Executive Director
SEGMENT OF WHOLE SCHOOL OPERATORS AND LOOK AT THE TRADITIONAL BRICK AND MORTAR OPERATORS, GENERALLY CHARTER SCHOOLS, AND YOU LOOK AT THE ONLINE FULL-SCALE...
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| 01:16:52 |
Childress, Stacey - Deputy Director
THAN THE LOCAL OPTION AND ABOUT ONE-THIRD PERFORM WORSE, AND THEN THERE'S THE BIG METAL. CHARTER'S OBSERVE BY ABOUT 5% IN SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW AND THE PERCENTAGE...
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| 01:18:03 |
Horn, Michael - Co-Founder and Executive Director
UNDERSTANDABLE IN THE DIALOGUE AND TRANSLATING IT IS ANOTHER KEY CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW. WHAT ONE OF FOR-PROFIT VIRTUAL SCHOOL COMPANY RESPONDED TO A STEADY...
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| 01:19:56 |
Shelton, James "Jim" H. III - Assistant Deputy Secretary
TOO LATE BECAUSE OF THE WAIVERS. I THINK WE MAY HAVE MISSED THE BOAT BECAUSE TO BE TOTALLY HONEST, I EXPECTED THERE TO BE ADVOCATES FOR SCS. IF IT IS...
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| 01:25:00 |
Childress, Stacey - Deputy Director
BUT DIFFERENT STATES TO CHARTER'S OPERATING DIFFERENTLY, THERE IS STILL SOME PUBLIC ENTITY GRANTING THE CHARTER TO OPERATE THE SCHOOL. IT MAY OR MAY...
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| 01:27:09 |
Gilmer, Raquel - Chief Operating Officer
DISTRICTS AND STATES YOU ARE WORKING WITH. ALL OF TIMES, WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE STATES THAT HAVE BEEN OPEN LIKE COLORADO....
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| 01:28:56 |
Hess, Frederick "Rick" M. - Resident Scholar and Director
SERVE KIDS IN COMMUNITIES AS WELL AND DEAL WITH MALFEASANCE OR CONCERNS, WHAT ONE THING WHICH YOU LIKE TO SEE? >> THE PERFORMANCE-BASED OR OUTCOME-BASED...
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| 01:29:13 |
Childress, Stacey - Deputy Director
FLOWING AGAINST THINGS WE REALLY CARE ABOUT IN TERMS OF STUDENT LEARNING VERSES HOW MANY FOR A LONG. >> WE ARE OPEN TO PERFORMANCE- BASED.
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| 01:29:30 |
Gilmer, Raquel - Chief Operating Officer
WE ARE ONLY PAID IF STEVENS ATTEND -- IF STUDENTS ATTEND. THE MORE STUDENTS ATTEND, THE BETTER WE WILL DO. IT ALWAYS HAD TO BE FAIR. WE HAVE TO BE...
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| 01:30:40 |
Westendorf, Eric - Co-Founder
INTERNET ACCESS, THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT OF WORK THAN THERE. SO THAT IS ONE, PROVIDING THE PIPES INTO THE SCHOOL. EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A STATE ISSUE,...
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| 01:31:24 |
Hess, Frederick "Rick" M. - Resident Scholar and Director
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY. WE'LL SEE YOU ALL SOON. [APPLAUSE] [CAPTIONING PERFORMED BY NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE] [CAPTIONS COPYRIGHT NATIONAL...
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