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HOST
FORMER NAVY SEAL. HE FOCUSES ON CYBER SECURITY. HOW REAL THE CYBER SECURITY THREAD IS. GUEST: THAT QUESTION
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GUEST
HAS BEEN ASKED QUITE A BIT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. IT IS SURREAL THAT IT IS PROBABLY HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK. CYBER THREATS AND CYBER ATTACKS -- I DO NOT KNOW...
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HOST
STORY FROM -- GUEST: THAT IS SIGNIFICANT
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GUEST
AND ENTER A COUPLE OF WAYS. THE SHEER MAGNITUDE OF IT IS SOMETHING THAT REDEFINES PARADIGM WHEN IT COMES TO CONFLICT AND HOW WE FIGHT EACH OTHER. IN...
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HOST
TOOK TO THE PAGES OF "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" ON THE THREAT HE SEES FROM CYBER ATTACKS. HERE IS A STORY FROM A FEW DAYS AGO. WHAT IS THE GOVERNMENT...
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GUEST
SINGULAR CONCERN. I THINK EVERYBODY IS CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH 9/11 HAPPENING IN A DIGITAL SPACE. THERE IS NO REAL WAY TO FORECAST HOW SEVERE...
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HOST
WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO JON IADONISI ABOUT CYBER SECURITY AND CYBER THREATS, HERE ARE THE NUMBERS TO CALL. CYBER ATTACKS COME FROM A VARIETY OF GROUPS...
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GUEST
THE QUESTION IS ONE THAT I GET ALL THE TIME. WHO ARE THE USUAL SUSPECTS? THE WAY I BREAK IT DOWN IS, YOU HAVE CRIMINALS, PEOPLE ON LINE TO PERFORM SOME...
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HOST
A MOMENT AGO ABOUT CYBER ATTACKS AGAINST ISRAEL SAID ANONYMOUS TOOK CREDIT. REMIND US WHO THAT IS. LET ME READ THIS FIRST. DO WE KNOW IF THIS WAS POLITICALLY...
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GUEST
THEY HAVE A PARTICULAR TARGET, IF YOU WILL, FOR THEIR ATTACKS ON GOVERNMENTS. I DO KNOW THAT MANY OF THEIR ACTIONS ARE FOUNDED IN WHAT THEIR UNDERSTANDING...
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HOST
GOVERNMENT'S APPROACH TO CYBER SECURITY? YOU LAID OUT THREE MAIN GROUPS THAT CAN BE A THREAT. HOW DOES THE GOVERNMENT DEAL WITH IT? GUEST: TODAY I...
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GUEST
THE CYBER BILL HAS STALLED AND IS ACTUALLY DEAD NOW. I THINK THAT WAS A " SOMEWHERE IN "THE WASHINGTON POST." THE GOVERNMENT HAS TRIED SEVERAL DIFFERENT...
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HOST
PHONES AND SAY WHAT MICHIGAN HAS TO SAY. CALLER:
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CALLER
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
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HOST
HOST: WE CAN. CALLER: DOES THIS
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CALLER
VIOLATE -- THIS VIOLENCE CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. HOST: DOES FIGHTING CYBER
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HOST
CRIME VIOLATE THE LAW? CALLER: THE
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CALLER
BILL THAT IS ACTUALLY BEING PASSED TO CREATE CYBER POLICE OR CYBER SECURITY -- THIS DEAL THAT CREATED VIOLATES THE CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS. HOST: WE HAVE...
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HOST
BILLS ON THE TABLE, BUT WE ALSO SEEING THE WHITE HOUSE. WE MENTIONED THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS ASKED FOR THE MILITARY TO ACT MORE AGGRESSIVELY. GUEST:...
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GUEST
I DO NOT HAVE ALL OF THE DETAILS ON THIS PARTICULAR BILL BECAUSE IT IS CLASSIFIED. HOWEVER, I CAN TELL YOU, HAVE SPENT NINE YEARS UNTIL THE MILITARY....
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| 00:09:32 |
HOST
YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT IS BECAUSE IT IS A SECRET DIRECTIVE THAT THIS POINT. "THE WASHINGTON POST" GOES ON TO SAY -- GIVE US A SENSE OF HOW THE GOVERNMENT...
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GUEST
QUESTION. A LOT OF THE ANSWERS ARE CLASSIFIED. BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS TO LOOK AT IS THE HUMAN INFRASTRUCTURE BEHIND A LOT OF THREATS. A LOT...
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HOST
ROBERT. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD
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CALLER
MORNING. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT CYBER SECURITY IS ACTUALLY GOOD. AND ACTIVITY OF CONGRESS REGARDING THE FISCAL CLIFF, I THINK IT IS GOOD TO HAVE LAWS...
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GUEST
I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. I THINK THE FISCAL CLIFF AND THE INTERACTION OF THAT AND THE IMPACT OF THAT WITH CYBER IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED....
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HOST
A QUESTION ON TWITTER. GUEST: WE GET THE
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GUEST
QUESTION A LOT. THE COMPANY WAS FOUNDED BY MYSELF AND MY BUSINESS PARTNER WHO IS A WORLD CLASS HIMSELF, ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS AGO. THE GOAL OF...
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| 00:13:24 |
HOST
A PROJECT THAT WAS USED IN THE SANDY EFFORT. HOW DOES THAT RELATE? GUEST: JUST
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GUEST
AS FACEBOOK BROUGHT TO LIGHT THE CONCEPT OF SOCIAL NETWORKING, EVERYONE OF US HAS A MOBILE PHONE. IT ENABLES ORGANIZATIONS AND COMPANIES TO LEVERAGE...
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| 00:14:34 |
HOST
IS THE FOUNDER OF THE WHITE CANVAS GROUP. IS A FORMER NAVAL SEAL. CALLER: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK
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| 00:14:47 |
CALLER
YOUR GUESTS TO COMMENT ON THE RECENT THEFT OF THREE-4 MILLION TAX RECORD BY INTERNATIONAL HACKERS. THE BLAME HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT....
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GUEST
GUEST: THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. IT IS AN INTERESTING QUESTION. IT DEFINES THE NATURE OF THE CYBER PROBLEM. MOST OF THESE ATTACKS AND THE ONE IN PARTICULAR...
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HOST
DAVE ON OUR INDEPENDENT LINE. CALLER:
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CALLER
I JUST ASK YOU THE QUESTION.
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HOST
HOST: SORRY. I NEED SOME MORE COFFEE. HI WES. CALLER: I THINK
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CALLER
IT WAS A HUMAN FAILURE. I THINK SOMEONE GRANTED ACCESS EITHER BY PHONE OR ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. SOMEONE GOT ACCESS TO THE COMPUTER AND GOT THEIR HANDS...
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| 00:17:53 |
HOST
OF YOUR LIFE YOU PUT ON THE INTERNET. ARE YOU AFRAID OF CYBER ATTACKS? CALLER:
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CALLER
YES. JUST MYSELF AND MY FAMILY. THEY HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION. WITH JUST A CALL, THEY HAVE YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. THEY CAN RUN OFF WITH THE MONEY...
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HOST
HOST: THANKS FOR YOUR CALL.
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GUEST
GUEST: AS THE JOURNEY CONTINUES WITH THE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS COMING TO A CONSENSUS ON WHAT SOME OF OUR SECURITY IS, THERE IS ANOTHER CONSIDERATION....
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| 00:19:26 |
HOST
US SOME NUTS AND BOLTS. IF YOU ARE A GOVERNMENT AND YOU ARE TRYING TO AVOID YOUR NATIONAL SECURITY GRID OR YOUR ENERGY GRID GETTING HACKED, HOW DOES THAT...
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GUEST
HIS HOUSE. I MEANT TO THE GUY WHO HACKED FACEBOOK AND STOLE 100 MILLION PASSWORDS. I SAW THE LIST OF THE FIRST MILLION. THEY WERE LITERALLY ALL THE...
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| 00:21:23 |
HOST
SAYS COMPANIES GIVE CITIZENS PRIVATE INFORMATION TO GOVERNMENT AND MILITARY FACILITIES. IS THAT TRUE? GUEST: A LOT OF
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GUEST
THE DISPUTE OF THE BILL WAS THAT IT WAS NOT FOCUSED ENOUGH AS TO WHAT THE GOVERNMENT WAS REQUESTING. THAT IS THE FIRST PART OF THE TWEET. WHAT WAS THE...
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| 00:22:04 |
HOST
THE GOVERNMENT CAN GO TO BANK FIRE. GUEST:-- GO TOO FAR. GUEST: PEOPLE
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| 00:22:15 |
GUEST
ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REACH ACROSS THE NATION AND PUT ANY SORT OF PARTISANSHIP AND PERSONAL OPINION ASIDE AND COME TO A PARADIGM-SHIFTING POLICY CHANGE....
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| 00:22:31 |
HOST
NEXT CALLER, AGUSTA, -- AUGUSTA, MAINE ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE. CALLER: YOU
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CALLER
GUYS STOLE MY THUNDER. THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. THE MAJOR COMPANIES LIKE LIFE LOT AND MAJOR VIRUS SOFTWARE COMPANIES -- LIFELOCK AND...
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| 00:23:28 |
GUEST
FOR YOUR QUESTION. INSIDE THE BILL, THERE WAS A CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY PARTNERSHIP AND OTHER THINGS. I AM NOT SURE YOU HEARD THE OTHER SEGMENT....
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| 00:25:02 |
HOST
DENISE, TOLEDO, AND IN COLLEGE. -- LET'S HEAR FROM DENISE, TOLEDO, OHIO, ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE. CALLER: IT
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CALLER
JUST OCCURRED TO ME THAT MY COMPUTER HAS BEEN ATTACKED. I JUST TUNE IN AND I DO NOT KNOW ALL THAT HAS BEEN SAID. HOST: TELL
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HOST
US WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU. HOW DID YOU KNOW YOUR COMPUTER HAD BEEN ATTACKED AND WHAT WAS THE FALLOUT? CALLER: I AM A
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CALLER
SMALL BUSINESS OWNER MYSELF. I STARTED GETTING THESE WEIRD E- MAILS. MY ADDRESS IS NOT ONE THAT IS EASILY DECIPHERED. IT WAS LIKE A PERSONAL MESSAGE...
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GUEST
I AM SORRY TO HEAR THAT. WHAT I WOULD DO IF I WERE YOU IS TRY TO PERFORM SOME SORT OF RUDIMENTARY -- I HOPE YOU HAVE VIRUS SOFTWARE OR SOMETHING TO SCAN...
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HOST
NEW ACCOUNT INFORMATION. HOST: TELL US WHAT HAPPENS
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HOST
TO SMALL BUSINESS WHAT HAPPENSE -- ALL BUSINESS OWNERS LIKE DENISE AS OPPOSED TO PRIVATE CITIZENS. GUEST: THERE IS ANOTHER AREA
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GUEST
WE SPECIALIZE IN. IT IS A NEW SOLUTION KNOWN AS THE DIGITAL TERRAIN TEAM. EVERYBODY HAS DIGITAL TERRAIN. THAT GOES INTO THE REALM OF REPUTATION. WE...
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| 00:28:54 |
HOST
IS FOUNDER OF THE JON IADONISI, A HIGH-TECH CONSULTING FIRM. HE IS A FORMAL NAVY OFFICER.
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| 00:29:05 |
CALLER
CALLER: THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL. PEOPLE HAVE THIS SENSE OF SUBLIME ANONYMITY WHEN THEY ARE ON THE INTERNET. THEY GIVE OUT TOO MUCH INFORMATION. THE...
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| 00:31:24 |
HOST
THE PUBLIC MORE. HOW DO WE GET AT THE HEART OF WHAT ALEX IS SAYING?
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GUEST
GUEST: WE CAN DO A LOT. WE ARE DOING SOME STUDIES IN GRADUATE SCHOOL ON DIFFERENT WAYS CYBER CRIMINALS ARE OPERATING ON LINE. I DO NOT SEE CRAIGS LISTS...
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| 00:32:56 |
HOST
HAS A PH.D. IN CYBER SECURITY. HE HAS A MASTER'S IN HOMELAND SECURITY FROM SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY. BECAUSE OUR LAST CALLER BROUGHT UP WHAT PEOPLE...
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| 00:33:23 |
GUEST
I THINK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PGP AND SENDING E- MAIL. I WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY ABOUT A DEAL THEY MADE IN CHINA. THE QUESTION WAS, WHAT SHOULD I...
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| 00:34:45 |
HOST
IN NEW YORK. CALLER: THANKS
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| 00:34:50 |
CALLER
FOR TAKING MY CALL. I AM A NAVY VET MYSELF. I SERVED IN VIETNAM. IN RECENT YEARS, THE GOVERNMENT HAS NOT SEEMED CONSTITUTIONALLY FRIENDLY. LIKE ANY...
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| 00:35:32 |
GUEST
YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. I THINK IN CYBERSPACE, WHICH IS INHERENTLY POROUS, SO THE BEST DEFENSES ARE STRONG, BUT UNDER THE RADAR OFFENSE. WE NEED...
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| 00:36:25 |
HOST
IF AUTHORIZED, TAKE ACTION? HOST: HOW HARD
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| 00:36:35 |
HOST
IS IT TO BECOME A HACKER?
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GUEST
GUEST: IT IS EASY. IF YOU WERE BECOMING A HACKER, YOU WERE IN YOUR MOTHER'S BASEMENT EATING TWINKIES. THAT STEREOTYPE OF ORIGINATED AS THESE RECLUSIVE,...
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| 00:37:57 |
HOST
CHANGED TO DEALING WITH CYBER SECURITY ISSUES? GUEST: IT CHANGES
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| 00:38:05 |
GUEST
ITS BECAUSE THE THREAT IS INCREASED BY AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE. AREAS YOU NEVER USED TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT LIKE, IT IS A SUPER STRONG PASSWORD AND IT WILL...
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| 00:38:54 |
HOST
IN ILLINOIS AND -- LET'S GO TO DARREN IN ILLINOIS ON OUR DEMOCRATS' LINE. CALLER: LAST YEAR, I'VE
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CALLER
BOUGHT CHRISTMAS TOYS ONLINE. -- I BOUGHT CHRISTMAS TOYS ONLINE. I GOT THESE BILLS FROM SOMEBODY USING LINE CHRISTMAS CARD SO I REDUCED MY CREDIT TERM-LIMIT...
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GUEST
GOT MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER STOLEN A MONTH AGO. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. I SAW SOME RECENT REPORTS THAT SHOW ROUGHLY $7 BILLION TO $10 BILLION OF CREDIT...
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| 00:41:17 |
HOST
IS TO MODEL AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ONLINE SHOP. DO YOU SEE THAT AS A DAY -- TOMORROW IS CYBER MONDAY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOP ONLINE. GUEST: WHEN YOU LOOK...
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GUEST
TOP THREE ATTACKS, IT IS USUALLY CYBER CRIME, HACKERISM OR SOME OTHER KIND OF DISPLACEMENT. THE CYBER WARFARE PIECE IS SMALL. THE QUESTION ON THAT...
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| 00:42:22 |
HOST
ON TWITTER RIGHTS THAT -- WRITES MTHAT GOOGLE -- THAT GOOGLE HAS A TWO LEVEL E-MAIL. GUEST: THAT
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GUEST
IS A CONTINUING THEME. BEFORE THAT HAPPENS, HE COULD FILL OUT ANY SORT OF E-MAIL ACCOUNT AND THERE WOULD BE NO WAY TO TELL IF YOU WERE USING THAT ACCOUNT...
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| 00:43:20 |
HOST
BE LARGER -- TO THE LARGER ISSUE. HOW DO THE CHECKS AND BALANCES AND REPEAT ENTRY POINTS WORK? YESTERDAY -- GUEST: THEY ARE
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GUEST
YOU ARE SWITCHING MECHANISM ON RAILROAD TRACKS. A LOT OF THESE SYSTEMS ARE NOT NECESSARILY LIKE WEBSITES. THEY ARE CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET FOR THE...
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| 00:45:02 |
HOST
LETTING THE GOVERNMENT HAVE A LARGER ROLE IN SECURITY IS LIKE HAVING THE FOX HAVE A LARGER ROLE IN SECURING THE HENHOUSE. LET'S GO TO LAWRENCE IN NEW...
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| 00:45:18 |
CALLER
CALLER: GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR WASHINGTON JOURNAL. I LOVE THIS SHOW. I AM A CPA. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT THERE IS SO MUCH INFORMATION ON THE...
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GUEST
GREAT QUESTION. I HAVE NOT ENGAGED WITH THE HEALTH-CARE INDUSTRY AT ALL REGARDING THAT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED. THERE IS A LOT...
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| 00:48:36 |
HOST
SCAMS ARE NOT NEW, JUST THE DELIVERY OF THEM. JON IADONISI, THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY. FOUNDER OF THE WHITE CANVAS GROUP. COMING UP NEXT, WE WILL TALK...
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