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HOST, -
DISCUSSION OF CAMPAIGN FINANCE WITH KATHY KIELY OF THE SUNLIGHT FOUNDATION. THIS WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION THAT WAS SHAPED BY THE SUPREME COURT...
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| 00:00:26 |
GUEST, -
BIG DIFFERENCE -- IT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE. THIS WAS SPENDING THAT WAS FACILITATED BY THE SUPREME COURT DECISION. THERE WERE A SERIES OF RULINGS IN 2010...
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| 00:01:23 |
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WILL SHOW YOU A CHART ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN SPENDING NUMBERS THIS CYCLE. THE PARTIES THEMSELVES ABOUT $254 MILLION. THAT IS NOT INCLUDING THE CANDIDATES...
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| 00:01:50 |
GUEST, -
IT ALSO DOESN'T INCLUDE ABOUT THREE UNDER MILLION DOLLARS FOR ELECTIONEERING -- ABOUT $300 MILLION FOR THE ENGINEERING. HOST: HOW
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| 00:02:07 |
HOST, -
THE CITIZENS UNITED CHANGED THE TONE OF THIS ELECTION? GUEST: IT MADE IT
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| 00:02:14 |
GUEST, -
A MUCH MORE NEGATIVE CAMPAIGN. WE LOOKED AT HOW THE GROUPS CHARACTERIZED THEIR ADS. 75% THE ADVERTISING PUT ON BY SUPER PACS WAS NEGATIVE. THE NON-COMMITTEES,...
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| 00:03:01 |
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ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS FOR FUTURE DISCLOSURE RULES AND ALL THE MONEY WE HAVE SEEN AND WHETHER IT MADE A DIFFERENCE. GUEST: WE DID A LOOK
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| 00:03:13 |
GUEST, -
AT RETURN ON INVESTMENTS. MANY OF THE GROUPS THAT SPENT IN THE LARGEST SUMS OF MONEY DID RATHER POORLY. HOST:
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| 00:03:27 |
HOST, -
AMERICAN CROSSROAD TO BEING ONE OF THEM. AMERICAN CROSSROADS SPENT OVER $104 MILLION. THEY SUPPORTED ZERO WINNING CANDIDATES. GUEST: YOU WOULD LIKE
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| 00:03:56 |
GUEST, -
TO THINK WITH THAT KIND OF RETURN ON INVESTMENT THAT SMART MONEY WOULD BE SAYING, "GEE, MAYBE WE SHOULD NOT BE RUNNING SO NEGATIVE ADS." I HAVE NOT HEARD...
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| 00:04:29 |
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HOST: WE ARE TAKING YOUR CALLS WITH KATHY KIELY. NUMBERS ARE ON YOUR SCREEN. FOR DEMOCRATS, 202-585-3880. FOR REPUBLICANS, 202-585-3881. FOR INDEPENDENTS,...
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| 00:04:54 |
GUEST, -
WAS LABOR. YOU CAN SEE THEIR RETURN ON INVESTMENT WAS CONSIDERABLY HIGHER. HOST: 84.65% OF
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| 00:05:10 |
HOST, -
THEIR INVESTMENT ON ABOUT $15 MILLION . GUEST: THAT WAS A
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| 00:05:19 |
GUEST, -
SURPRISE. LABOUR HAS HAD SOME EMBARRASSMENTS. LABOR CAME BACK STRONG. THEY WILL HAVE A LOT OF CHIPS TO CALL BACK IN THIS CONGRESS. SOME GROUPS INCLUDING...
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| 00:06:10 |
HOST, -
THEIR INVESTMENTS FOR AMERICANS FOR TAX REFORM. THEY SUPPORTED TWO WINNING CANDIDATES. ANY OTHER SURPRISES FROM THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT NUMBERS THAT...
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| 00:06:33 |
GUEST, -
LOT OF FOCUS ON THE CAR ROVER GROUP -- ON THE KARL ROVE GROUP. WE SAW FIVE OR SIX INDIVIDUALS WHO WROTE CHECKS MORE THAN $10 MILLION FOR AN INDIVIDUAL....
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| 00:08:13 |
HOST, -
HAVE SOME OUTSIDE GROUPS TO SHOW YOU. HOST: TALKED
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| 00:08:37 |
HOST, -
LITTLE ABOUT MAJORITY PAC. GUEST: THAT IS FOLLOWED BY
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| 00:08:46 |
GUEST, -
SOME DEMOCRATIC SENATE STAFFERS. THIS IS PART OF THE FIG LEAF. SUPER PACS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO COORDINATE WITH CANDIDATES. STEVEN COLBERT AND JOHN STUART...
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| 00:09:30 |
HOST, -
A VERY GOOD NIGHT ON TUESDAY, SUPPORT AND FIVE WINNING CANDIDATES. THESE ARE FROM THE NUMBERS CRUNCHED BY THE SUNLIGHT FOUNDATION. BEVERLY FROM PITTSBURGH...
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| 00:09:58 |
CALLER, -
CONCERNED ABOUT THE ACTUAL TOTAL NUMBER OF DOLLARS SPENT. IT IS TOO MUCH. IT COULD BE ON TV. WE CAN SAVE OUR TREES BY NOT SENDING IN SO MUCH PAPER. SO...
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| 00:10:23 |
GUEST, -
DID YOU GET A LOT OF MAILING? CALLER: I DIDN'T
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| 00:10:29 |
CALLER, -
GET THE QUESTION. GUEST: DID YOU GET
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| 00:10:35 |
GUEST, -
A LOT OF CANDIDATE MAILING? CALLER: YES,
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| 00:10:39 |
CALLER, -
I DID. THE CENTER FOR RESPONSIVE POLITICS SAID IT WILL BE $6 BILLION SPENT AND SO THERE IS A BIG PART OF THAT THAT WE WILL NOT KNOW BECAUSE THERE ARE...
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| 00:11:54 |
HOST, -
MUCH EACH CANDIDATE SPENT. THAT IS JUST THE TWO CANDIDATES. GUEST: THE FINAL
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| 00:12:09 |
GUEST, -
ACCOUNTING IS NOT IN YET. HOST: THERE
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| 00:12:14 |
HOST, -
IS ANOTHER STORY FROM "TIME BUSINESS." $6 BILLION INVESTED IN THIS ECONOMY. DID WE SEE A BOOST IN THE SLUGGISH ECONOMY? GUEST: CHRISTMAS
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| 00:12:38 |
GUEST, -
IN SEPTEMBER FOR THE TELEVISION STATIONS IN SOME OF BATTLEGROUND STATES. STATIONS WERE CUTTING BACK ON PROGRAMMING SO THEY COULD FIT IN ALL THE ADVERTISING....
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| 00:13:58 |
HOST, -
CORRECT -- ABOUT A MILLION COMMERCIALS? GUEST: AS FAR AS I KNOW,
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| 00:14:08 |
GUEST, -
YES. IT CERTAINLY SHOWS LIKE AT LEAST A MILLION. HOST: MATT ON THE
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| 00:14:18 |
HOST, -
REPUBLICAN LINE. YOU ARE ON WITH KATHY KIELY. CALLER: I HAVE
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| 00:14:26 |
CALLER, -
GOOD NEWS FOR THE DEMOCRATS. THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEND MUCH MONEY ANY LONGER. CESAR CHAVEZ GOT ELECTED. FIND PEOPLE IN NEED LIKE IMMIGRANTS COMING IN...
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| 00:15:18 |
HOST, -
YOU THINK OF ALL THE CAMPAIGN SPENDING IN THE ELECTION? CALLER: THEY JUST
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| 00:15:25 |
CALLER, -
NEED TONS OF PEOPLE ON WELFARE ARE TAKING FOOD STAMPS. HOST: HOWARD IN NEW
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| 00:15:34 |
HOST, -
JERSEY ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE. J.GOOD MORNING. CALLER: MANY ORGANIZATIONS
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| 00:15:47 |
CALLER, -
ARE NON-PROFIT AND NON-PARTISAN. HOST: HOWARD, GO AHEAD. CALLER: MY QUESTION IS
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| 00:16:02 |
CALLER, -
ABOUT NON-PROFIT AND NON-PARTISAN ORGANIZATIONS. I DON'T BELIEVE THESE ORGANIZATIONS WHICH GAVE TO THE CAMPAIGNS. MY QUESTION IS -- I SEE THESE PEOPLE...
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| 00:16:44 |
HOST, -
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SUNLIGHT FOUNDATION? GUEST:
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| 00:16:50 |
GUEST, -
IF YOU GO ON TO THE SUNLIGHT WEBSITE, WE DO LIST OUR DONORS. A LOT OF OUR MONEY COMES FROM GROUPS THAT ARE GOOD GOVERNMENT, CIVIC GROUPS. A LOT COMES...
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| 00:19:47 |
HOST, -
HOST: YOU CAN SEE FUNDING FOR THE SUNLIGHT FOUNDATION AT SUNLIGHTFOUNDATION.COM, AND YOU CAN SCROLL THROUGH THE CONTRIBUTIONS YOUR ORGANIZATION HAS RECEIVED....
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| 00:20:20 |
CALLER, -
MUCH MONEY AND CHANGE THE CONVERSATION. WE NEED TO ATTACK IT. THERE IS NO PLACE FOR MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES TO SWAY OUR ELECTIONS. GUEST: MONEY...
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| 00:20:39 |
GUEST, -
GO AND SWING THINGS BOTH WAYS. I COVERED CONGRESS FOR MANY YEARS. I THINK IT DISEMPOWERS THE POLITICIAN. IT TAKES THE VOICE AWAY FROM THE POLITICIANS....
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| 00:21:52 |
HOST, -
THEY'RE SPENDING IT IN THE CAMPAIGN, THAT IS AMERICAN CROSSROADS WHICH WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS MORNING. HOST: WHAT ARE YOU
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| 00:22:46 |
HOST, -
HEARING FROM THESE GROUPS? SOME HAD SUCH A LOW RETURN ON INVESTMENT. GUEST: THERE
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| 00:22:56 |
GUEST, -
YOU HAVE IT. THERE IS NO SECOND-GUESSING ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS SPENT HERE. I DO NOT THINK THIS IS GOING TO STOP. THAT IS THE THING THAT HAS...
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| 00:23:43 |
HOST, -
FROM CALIFORNIA ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: I DO NOT SEE
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| 00:23:52 |
CALLER, -
A PROBLEM WITH THIS MONEY. IF LIKE-MINDED INDIVIDUALS WANT TO CONTRIBUTE, I DON'T HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THESE CAMPAIGNS. IN CALIFORNIA,...
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| 00:25:42 |
GUEST, -
CALLER MAKES THE POINT OF THE SUPREME COURT MADE. THE SUPREME COURT OF SUPPORT FREE SPEECH. THAT IS FINE, EXCEPT WHEN MOST OF US GET UP AND SPEAK ON A...
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| 00:28:06 |
HOST, -
ABOUT CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION LIMITS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS COME UP SINCE CAMPAIGN 2012, ARGUMENTS THAT WE SHOULD TAKE AWAY INDIVIDUAL LIMITS THAT...
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| 00:28:19 |
GUEST, -
HAS BEEN A LOT OF ARGUMENT ABOUT THAT AND I HAVE COME UP THIS FOR YEARS BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN ON AND OFF BEFORE CONGRESS FOR YEARS. AND IT USED TO BE THE...
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| 00:28:55 |
HOST, -
TALKING WITH KATHY KIELY OF THE SUNLIGHT FOUNDATION. SHE HAS COVERED EVERY PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION SINCE 1980. O2 DIRT ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE -- WE...
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| 00:29:19 |
CALLER, -
SOFT MONEY IS IMPORTANT, BUT IN THE GRAND SCHEME, NOT HAVING EQUAL TIME PROVISIONS IN OUR BROADCAST IS PROBABLY JUST AS DETRIMENTAL AS NOT ALLOWING CERTAIN...
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| 00:29:43 |
GUEST, -
WHAT THE CALLER IS REFERRING TO IS CABLE TELEVISION, WHICH DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME RULES AND REGULATIONS. I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS...
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| 00:30:11 |
HOST, -
TWITTER, -- IN EVERYTHING THERE IS A POINT OF DIMINISHING RETURNS. A ROAD ON ADVERTISING MAY DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD. WE GO OUT TO TEMPE, ARIZ. ON THE...
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| 00:30:28 |
CALLER, -
HAVE NOT BEEN WATCHING THE ENTIRE BROADCAST, NO. THIS IS ADDRESSED SPECIFICALLY, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE WORKS REGARDING FOREIGN INTEREST THAT...
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| 00:30:49 |
GUEST, -
LYNETTE RAISES AN INTERESTING POINT. OF COURSE, FOREIGN CONTRIBUTIONS ARE ILLEGAL A A TWO CAMPAIGNS. WE ARE OUT IN THIS COUNTRY. BUT I THINK IT HAS --...
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| 00:31:58 |
HOST, -
FROM AN ORDER. ESTELLA WRITES IN, WHERE MY MONEY GOES FOR ELECTION IS MY BUSINESS CANNOT BE DAMNED GOVERNMENT. I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE MASSACHUSETTS...
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| 00:32:17 |
GUEST, -
OUTSIDE SPENDING. YOU CAN LOOK AT ONE OF OUR TOLD -- OUR TOOLS CALLED "FOLLOW THE UNLIMITED MONEY." IS ON OUR REPORTING SITE. THE CARROUSEL AT THE TOP...
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| 00:33:13 |
HOST, -
HOST: THE MASSACHUSETTS SENATE RACE, ABOUT $6.4 MILLION, ACCORDING TO THE HR THAT YOU CAN FIND -- TO THAT CHART THAT YOU CAN FIND OUR REPORTING FROM...
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| 00:33:28 |
GUEST, -
ONE WAS VIRGINIA. YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH MONEY WAS SPENT IN THAT RACE RIGHT AT THE TOP. HOST: THE VIRGINIA SENATE
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| 00:33:37 |
HOST, -
RACE, $50 MILLION -- $50.5 MILLION IN THE VIRGINIA RACE. GUEST: OUTSIDE SPENDING. HOST: FOLLOWED BY
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| 00:33:49 |
HOST, -
WISCONSIN AT $42.5 MILLION AND OHIO AND INDIANA COMING IN AT $31.4 MILLION. PATTI IS ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE IN WASHINGTON. CALLER: I
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| 00:34:05 |
CALLER, -
NOTICED A LIST THAT YOU HAVE FOR DONATIONS. NONE OF THEM ARE LISTED BY, CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS, OR PLANNED PARENTHOOD, OR ANY OF THOSE GETTING...
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| 00:34:27 |
GUEST, -
WHAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT IS -- I'M A LITTLE UNCLEAR. SUNLIGHT FOUNDATION, OUR GROUP IS FOLLOWING THE CAMPAIGN MONEY THAT THESE GROUPS PUT INTO THE CAMPAIGN....
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| 00:35:37 |
HOST, -
ACTION ARM OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD HAD A 98% RETURN ON HIS INVESTMENT, $6.8 MILLION. THE SUPPORT OF 11 WINNING CANDIDATES AND 11 LOSING CANDIDATES -- AND...
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| 00:36:09 |
CALLER, -
DONATION AS AN INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN, THE MONEY I GIVE IT IS TAXABLE. WHY CAN'T THE MONEY BE TAXABLE JUST LIKE MY MONEY? GUEST: THE SUPER
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| 00:36:23 |
GUEST, -
PAC CONTRIBUTIONS WOULD BE TAXABLE, JUST AS YOUR DONATION WOULD BE. I THINK WHERE THE QUESTION COMES IS ON THE NONPROFITS, WHICH DO HAVE A TAX DEDUCTIBILITY....
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| 00:37:02 |
CALLER, -
WONDERING, IS ILLEGAL FOR COUNTRIES TO INVEST IN STOCKS OR HAVE COMPANIES LIKE CITGO, WHICH IS PART OF VENEZUELA, TO SPEND OR DONATE THEIR MONEY TO POLITICAL...
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| 00:37:16 |
GUEST, -
GOOD POINT. YES, YOU SEE A LOT OF TRANSNATIONAL COMPANIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN GIVING TO CAMPAIGNS BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE AMERICAN HEADQUARTERS. I THINK...
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| 00:37:53 |
HOST, -
GO TO BUILD IN WASHINGTON D.C. . BILL IN WASHINGTON D.C.. CALLER: MY QUESTION
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| 00:38:04 |
CALLER, -
GOES TO A SIDEBAR ON THE CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS. THERE WERE A LOT OF ADS ON NATIONAL TV, FAVORING DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, BUT IT WASN'T SUPPORTED BY...
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| 00:38:38 |
GUEST, -
IS GETTING TOO -- THIS IS REALLY THE DEFINITION OF OUTSIDE SPENDING. THERE ARE BASICALLY THREE CATEGORIES OF CAMPAIGN HATS. IF I CAN OVERSIMPLIFY HERE,...
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| 00:40:42 |
HOST, -
GO TO BOB ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE. CALLER: I WAS HOPING
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| 00:40:47 |
CALLER, -
YOU COULD COMMENT OR MAKE ANY OBSERVATIONS ON THE DISTRIBUTION OF SPENDING AND HOW IT CORRELATES TO ANY REDISTRICTING THAT HAS BEEN DONE. ESSENTIALLY,...
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| 00:41:19 |
GUEST, -
THE CALLER IS TALKING ABOUT A STATE DISTRICT, WHICH THERE ARE MORE AND MORE -- SAFE DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE MORE AND MORE OF. YOU HAVE SEEN SOME PUSH BACK...
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| 00:42:42 |
HOST, -
OF THE SUN LIFE FOUNDATION, WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING ON. -- SUNLIGHT FOUNDATION, WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING ON. NEXT WE WILL HAVE LINDY PAULL TO TALK ABOUT...
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.