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THE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WHO ARE HERE DECIDED TO CAST THE TONE OF THE DAY. IT STAYED AS A THREAD THROUGHOUT. >> THANK YOU. IT'S A PLEASURE AND HONOR...
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| 00:12:32 |
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EFFECTIVE WAY FOR HERE TO DEAL WITH THIS MATTER. LET ME LEAVE IT THERE RIGHT NOW. I HAVE OTHER COMMENTS AND VARIOUS THINGS, IF TIME PERMITS I'LL JUMP...
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| 00:13:05 |
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ROLE IS. HOW MUCH IS RETRO SPECTIVE. NOW YOU VIEW THIS WHEN YOU'RE NO LONGER IN. IS THERE A CHANGE OF PERSPECTIVE AS YOU'RE WORKING GOVERNMENT GETS...
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| 00:21:50 |
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AREA WHERE THERE IS VERY IMPORTANT NATIONAL SECURITY
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| 00:21:55 |
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INFORMATION, SOME OF WHICH CANNOT BE EXPOSED, I BELIEVE, BUT MUMP OF IT CAN BE MADE PUBLIC WITHOUT HARMING AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WE TRIED TO DO....
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| 00:22:57 |
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EXPERT UNDERSTANDS AND RECOGNIZES THAT THERE'S BENEFIT IN THE REPORT AND THE FINDINGS. WE NEED TO WRITE IT SO WE UNDERSTAND. AND WE ALSO NEED TO WRITE...
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| 00:23:41 |
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WHAT HAS BEEN WITHHELD AS FAR AS CLEAR NATIONAL SECURITY CONCERNS. WHAT'S BEEN HELD IN TERMS OF WANTS TO COVER UP WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING...
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| 00:24:53 |
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A PROGRAM IS NOT WORKING AND NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED. BECAUSE I THINK THAT EM BARMT OR SHOWING WEAKNESSES IN THE PROGRAM IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO NOT MAKE SOMETHING...
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| 00:25:15 |
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TO TURN TO STEVE. SO, STEVE, YOU HAVE TO START THIS PART OF THE CONVERSATION WHICH HAS TO GO WITH WHERE DO WE STAND BETWEEN SECRECY AND TRANSPARENCY...
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| 00:30:05 |
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A SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW MUCH LESS THE PUBLIC KNOWS ABOUT WHAT THE GOVERNMENT'S UP TO AND WHAT ROLE CONGRESS AND THROUGH CONGRESS THE COURTS...
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| 00:30:34 |
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DRONE KILLINGS. MAYBE NOT SO MUCH ABOUT IT BUT DO YOU THINK -- WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON HERE? IS THERE A PUBLIC THAT'S CLAMORING FOR MORE INFORMATION?...
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| 00:30:44 |
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YOU HEAR THE WORD TRANSPARENCY, BUT WHAT IS IT YOU THINK -- I DON'T MEAN "THE NEW YORK TIMES," THE PUBLIC WANTS THAT THEY'RE NOT GETTING. >> I'M GLAD...
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| 00:32:40 |
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MATTER. YOU CAN PROVE THAT CERTAIN THINGS HAPPENED AND THE DEBATE CAN MOVE ON. THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW. >> JOHN, YOU SHOULD WAY IN ON THIS. HOWEVER...
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| 00:33:18 |
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DECIDE ON RATHER ON NOT WHAT'S GOING TO BE KNOWN, ON HOW MUCH IS GOING TO BE KNOWN? IS THERE A SENSE OF OBLIGATION TO THE PUBLIC IN THIS REGARD? >>...
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| 00:35:29 |
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ANXIETY. OF COURSE, NOW IT'S MUCH EASIER, BUT WE AS AN AGENCY SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING FORMORE TO WHAT WE THOUGHT WE FELT COULD BE
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| 00:35:40 |
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MADE MORE PUBLIC AND REST ASSURED THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE SECRET. >> SUCH AS? >> THERE'S SOME GOOD ONES
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| 00:35:56 |
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TOO. I DON'T WANT TO BE
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| 00:36:02 |
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OVERGLOOMY.
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| 00:36:03 |
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SECRETS CAN BE PROTECTED BUT THEY HAVE TO BE TIGHTLY PROTECTED. AND MY EXPERIENCE IS NO MATTER HOW COMPARTMENTED THEY ARE, THEY LEEB. THEY LEAK. >>...
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| 00:38:10 |
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THERE WOULDN'T BE THESE, YOU KNOW, FLAGRANT ABU
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| 00:38:22 |
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| 00:38:23 |
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GHRAIB TYPE OF ABUSE. LIKED TO SEE IT. >>
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| 00:38:29 |
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SORT OF INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE PUBLIC, BUT IN SOME WAYS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAS CHOSEN TO PUT OFFICIAL AFTER OFFICIAL IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC, WHETHER...
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| 00:38:39 |
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JOHN BRENNAN AND HAROLD CO-OR WHATEVER. >> AND SAY WHAT? >> YEAH, YOU HAVE TO FIRST GET OUT THERE. I'M CONCEDING BUT I'M JUST SAYING. >> SO THERE...
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| 00:38:59 |
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HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO IS
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| 00:39:01 |
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PROCEDURE ISSUES RATHER THAN SUBSTANTIVE ISSUES. WE'LL GET OUT THERE AND TALK ABOUT THE SUBSTANTIVISHES BUT WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW IS WHAT...
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| 00:39:22 |
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WHO'S DECIDING IT. AND SO I THINK THAT'S -- WHEN YOU ASK THE QUESTION WHAT IS IT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WANT TO KNOW...
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| 00:40:32 |
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TYPE OF OVERSIGHT THAT'S BEING DONE TO REASSURE THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE MECHANISMS TO MAKE SURE AND IT'S NOT THE DECISION MAKERS MAKING DECISIONS ON...
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| 00:41:47 |
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CONTAINED SENSITIVE MATERIAL IT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S NO OTHER WAY FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO ACTUALLY SHARE WHAT THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO KNOW WHICH IS...
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| 00:42:16 |
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MISLEAD OH I. THERE HAS TO BE ANOTHER PIECE OF IT. JOHN ANSWERED THIS. I'D LIKE YOU TO ANSWER IT. IF YOU COULD FIX SOMETHING, WHAT WOULD YOU FIX OR...
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| 00:43:11 |
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THE NATIONAL SECURITY?
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| 00:43:17 |
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IT'S TOO INDIVIDUALALIZED NOW. I DO THINK THERE OUGHT TO BE GREATER UNIFORMITY IN WHAT GETS CLASSIFIED AND WHAT DOESN'T. >> AND, STEVE, DO YOU THINK...
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| 00:43:50 |
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RIGHT? TRASHRY FOR EXAMPLE. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY -- TO ME THE EFFORT IS WORTH IT, RIGHT? I THINK WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THERE MIGHT BE CASE SPEFGS THERE...
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| 00:44:44 |
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APPEAR TO YOU? JOHN DO, YOU WANT TO START? >> WELL, YEAH. SENSORING AS I TALK. THE GENERAL CRITERIA FOR THE MORE AGGRESSIVE SHALL WE SAY TERRORIST...
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| 00:47:09 |
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WHAT CONSTITUTES NATIONAL SECURITY. THAT I WON'T DO IT. IT'S JUST NOT -- IT'S NOT GOILGNG TO HAPPEN. IT'S NOT HAPPENED UP TO NOW AND REALLY I'LL BET...
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| 00:48:00 |
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POPULAR PROCESS WHERE THERE'S A PROPOSED SEE
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| 00:48:03 |
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OF STANDARDS AND INDIVIDUAL
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| 00:48:05 |
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AGENCIES HAVE TO SHOW UP OUTSIDE THE CONTENT OF THE CASE AND THEY GO AND SKEW THE CONSIDERATIONS AND SAY HERE'S A GENERAL CATEGORY THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED....
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| 00:48:22 |
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OVER TIGHT. >> YEAH. >> IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION, I THINK THE THREAT CAN BE IMMINENT OR BE A LOCK-TERM THREAT AND STILL BE REASONABLE THREATS...
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| 00:49:14 |
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WOULD TRY TO PUSH PRETTY HARD. HOW DOES THIS HARM THE NATIONAL LEAGUE? DWHA'S THE SCENARIO THAT IT DOES? IF THERE'S A REASONABLE THEORY ON HOW THAT...
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| 00:50:22 |
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HELP YOU AND OTHERS SHEPHERD THIS ESPECIALLY IN THE MOSAIC SCENARIO WHERE SO MANY DIFFERENT SEE NAY OWES CAN BE LAID OUT AND YOU NEED THE PEOPLE IN...
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| 00:50:43 |
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THROUGH SEVERAL OF THESE IN MY MIND. I WAS LIAISON WITH CRAIG CRAIG FOR THE FROM THE -- >> TYPICALLY PRESIDENTIAL NAME NEATED. DO NOT GET REALLY...
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| 00:52:45 |
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ALMOST JAN TO. SO IT'S BEEN A FRANTIC -- I MEAN INL CAN BE A FRAN IT IS PROCESS. IMSEEMS ALL SCREWED UP. WEI ALWAYS SEEM TO MUDDLE THROUGH, BUT THAT'S...
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| 00:53:08 |
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NOT THE PRESIDENT OBVIOUSLY. WE WOULD HAVE A TOP LIST AND ON THE TOP WAS
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| 00:53:19 |
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ALWAYS TERRORISM SINCE 911. >> WE WOULD DISCUSS WHAT PROGRAM IT NEEDED. IT WAS EYE YOEPING THE SCOPE OF THE CHALLENGE WHEN THEY CAME INTO THE AN MITT...
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| 00:53:48 |
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OF REFORM OR NOM REFORM.
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| 00:53:52 |
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THE KINDS OF PEOPLE THAT RUN THESE AGENCIES. SO YOU'RE NOT ALWAYS
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| 00:53:59 |
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REIN VENT THE WHEEL. THE IDEA THEY WE'RE GOING TO BE OAR 30 YEARS. >>LY YO. >> >> IT WOULD BE NICE IF THERE'S A SAME TURN OF THE WHEEL. >> I MEAN I...
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| 00:56:10 |
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GOT. WIV U GIVE YOU ANOTHER POINT. WE SHOULD WANT IT THE WAY CREATE DEFENSE MESS NIRKS. >> GLENN, YOU LOOK LIKE -- OKAY, I THINK WE SHOULD OWN IT UP--...
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| 00:58:03 |
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IN CHILE AND THE GENERAL EXPECTATION WAS IT WAS THE CIA. I WONDER IS THAT SOMETHING WE MIGHT DEAL WITH WITH AN INDEPENDENT? >> I'M NOT OLD -- I'M OLD...
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| 01:00:49 |
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GOD, YOU WORK FOR US AND THIS IS WHAT YOU'LL DO. I GUESS WHAT I I'M SAYING IS I'M SURE THAT POSSIBILITY, I SUPPOSE, COULD ARISE
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| 01:00:58 |
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AGAIN. I THINK THINK IT'S NOOERM AS LIKELY AS IT WAS IN THE BYGONE DAYS. >> OTHER QUESTIONS. OTHER HERE. >>> WE'VE MOSTLY FOCUSED THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT,...
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| 01:01:46 |
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YOU BELIEVE IT WILL COMPEL THEM TO HAVE AN INFORMED FUTURE. INTERNATIONAL BAITS. >> AT THIS POINT, LIKE THE REST OF YOU, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S TOXIC...
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| 01:03:29 |
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TO CONDUCT LEGAL THAL ACTION. THAT'S -- THEY'RE WITH HOLDING THAT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND,
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| 01:03:39 |
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I GUESS, IS WHAT AI'M SAYING. >> LOT ME INTERRUPTOPT YOU. WHAT DO YOU THINK? THIS WAS RACED MANY TIMES TOGETHER. >> D YOU THINK WE EVEN'VE COME ...
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| 01:04:02 |
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THESE DEBATE. GLA AREA, NECESSARILY FLEXIBLE AREA BETWEEN SEE CURRENCY AND FARCE PERRINCY. THIS IS WHAT WE DO. WE'RE SORT OF MAKING OUR WAY IN A...
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| 01:06:35 |
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OUT. THAT'S, FRANKLY, TAUPE THE
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| 01:06:46 |
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AMERICAN PITTSBURGH LICK BUT AT THE SAME TIME, AT LEAST IN SOME INSTANCES DOES MINIMAL HARM OR MANAGEABLE HARM. >> ON THE OTHER HAND THERE IS AS WE...
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| 01:07:53 |
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SOMEONE IN THE AGENCY DECIDED IT WAS TIME AND IT COULD BE DECLASSIFIED. THIS THING'S NOW 30, 40 YEARS OLD. THEY'RE STILL TECHNICALLY CLASSIFIED. >>...
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| 01:09:13 |
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DISCLOSE INFORMATION. IT'S MUCH MORE WIDESPREAD BECAUSE OF THE BLOGGER AND PROLIFERATION OF THE ELECTRONIC MEDIA. SO I THING WE'LL ALWAYS BE STRUGGLING...
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| 01:09:41 |
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GLEN. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PENDULUM HAS SWUNG AS FAR BACK AS GLEN DOES. IT HAS BEEN ARGUED BECAUSE IT IS CLASSIFIED. >> RIGHT, A STATEMENT HE MADE TO...
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| 01:11:59 |
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FOR THE BETTERER PART. I DO THINK WE'RE LEANINGED MORE TOWARD A LACK OF OPINION LICK COSTA RICAer. MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE IDY. HE HADN'T SPENT TIME IN...
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| 01:12:47 |
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OPTIMISTIC COVER VISION SAGS AT REALM. I'M NOT VERY UPDATE APP PIE TIME MISS TIN. THE WHAT'S HAPPENED -- >> FEEL FREE TO CON TEN. SUE FWIEM A THIS...
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| 01:14:01 |
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ATTORNEYS AND LEGAL ESTABLISHMENT ON WHO'S REALLY BEING LABELED THE ENEMY OF NOIM I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THE PENDULUM HAS SWUJ BACK. WOULD YOU DID...
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| 01:15:48 |
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WE FIND OUT
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| 01:15:51 |
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SOMEONE OBSERVED IT MAYBE THE BLOW BACK. I THINK IT'S PERFECTLY RIGHT TO SAY. NIGHTTIME COB VINCED THAT BELOW THE SIN FAST, THERE EE ACTUALLY -- ...
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| 01:17:14 |
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WHILE I'M NOT SAYING IS IT'S IN THE SPOT, I DO BELIEVE THERE IS A STRONG INSTITUTIONAL FRAMEWORK TO TO HELP TRANSPARENCY. >> PERHAPS THAT ICE A'S A GOOD...
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| 01:19:08 |
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THE BAD TRUTH WILL GO OUT FIRST. ON THAT NOTE, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND STAY AROUND. [ CLAPPING ] >>> THE
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