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00:00:16
Weinstein, Kenneth R. - Chief Executive Officer
AND BETSY STERN CONFERENCE CENTER HERE AT HUDSON INSTITUTE FOR TODAY'S EVENT, THE FUTURE OF RURAL TELECOMMUNICATIONS. WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE FOUNDATION...
00:03:06
Crocker, Elizabeth - Executive Director
YOU SO MUCH, KEN. WELCOME, EVERYONE, AGAIN. I WAS LOOKING AROUND THE ROOM EARLIER AND THINKING WE HAVE SUCH A VARIETY OF FOLKS HERE. IT IS REALLY...
00:05:49
Kuttner, Hanns - Visiting Fellow
DISCUSSION WITH A PANEL AND IF YOU WANT TO JOIN IN ON THAT, YOU CAN DO SO VIA TWITTER #TELECOME CON SUMMIT OR VIA E-MAIL AT HUDSON.ORG, AND WE'LL...
00:32:44
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PAPER OR ANYTHING HERE BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE PANEL, SUBMITTING QUESTIONS WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DOING THAT VIA TWITTER AND ALSO VIA E-MAIL TO...
00:33:59
Kuttner, Hanns - Visiting Fellow
THIS CHART IMPLIES OR NOT? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> THE TAX ON MY, WHAT'S URBAN AND WHAT'S RURAL TO GET INTO THE WEEDS ON THIS IN THIS PARTICULAR PRESENTATION...
00:38:17
Weinstein, Kenneth R. - Chief Executive Officer
THANK YOU, HANNS FOR THE FASCINATING PRESENTATION. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT THE PAPER AGAIN, IT IS AVAILABLE AT WWW.HUDSON.ORG AND I AM...
00:39:46
Thompson, Larry - Chief Executive Officer
KENNETH. JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND, WE DO WORK, ENGINEERING AND CONSULTING, BOTH WIRELESS AND WIRELINE FOR ABOUT 25% OR SO OF...
00:51:16
Laudeman, Greg - Executive Director
LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO ELIZABETH AND TO KEN AND POTENTIAL TO HANS FOR LETTING ME -- INVITING ME TO COME AND SHARE SOME OF MY INSIGHTS AFTER A DECADE...
00:58:16
Weinstein, Kenneth R. - Chief Executive Officer
YOU AND LARRY HAVE REALLY SET THE STAGE WITH SOME VERY GOOD PRESENTATIONS, LOOKING INTO THE DEEPER IMPLICATIONS OF THE BROADBAND GAP AND WHAT NEEDS...
00:59:43
Furchtgott-Roth, Harold - Director
AND THANK YOU, HANS FOR A WONDERFUL PAPER. I LEARNED A LOT. I'M SURE EVERYONE WILL. AND IT HIGHLIGHTS THIS GROWING DIVIDE BETWEEN URBAN AND RURAL AMERICA...
01:09:58
Weinstein, Kenneth R. - Chief Executive Officer
THOSE CHARACTERISTICALLY INSIGHTFUL AND THOUGHT PROVOKING REMARKS. OUR LAST SPEAKER THIS MORNING IS ELIZABETH CROCKER, WHOM YOU MET EARLIER, WHO...
01:10:11
Crocker, Elizabeth - Executive Director
HAROLD'S A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW, BUT I'M GOING TO DO WHAT I DO BEST, AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT. WE'VE ALLUDED TO IT THROUGHOUT...
01:13:01
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CAN JOIN US AND ASK SOME GOOD QUESTIONS FOR OUR GROUP HERE. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU, ELIZABETH. HAROLD'S A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW, BUT YOU'VE CERTAINLY...
01:13:19
Weinstein, Kenneth R. - Chief Executive Officer
EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT FIRST YOU CAN SUBMIT QUESTIONS VIA TWITTER, # TELECOM ECON SUMMIT AND BY QUESTIONS S QUESTION@HUDSON.ORG AS WELL. LET...
01:14:09
Thompson, Larry - Chief Executive Officer
PROBABLY EVEN TAKE THAT ONE STEP FARTHER AND SAY WITHOUT -- DO I NEED TO PUSH THE BUTTON OR ANYTHING? >> NO, YOU'RE GOOD ON HERE. >> WITHOUT SOME SORT...
01:15:27
Laudeman, Greg - Executive Director
THINK THAT THE ANSWER IS YES, THAT THE GAP WILL INCREASE PARTICULARLY AS TECHNOLOGY MOVES FORWARD. BUT MY FEELING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE...
01:17:38
Furchtgott-Roth, Harold - Director
IT'S HASHD TORD TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE AND SEE THE GAP SHRINKING, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. I LOOK 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO AND ASKED WHETHER THERE WAS A GAP BETWEEN...
01:18:35
Crocker, Elizabeth - Executive Director
THE THINS THAT'S FRUSTRATING FOR ME IS I SEE SOME OF THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS PROVIDERS AND THEY'RE BEING REALLY INNOVATIVE AND DOING INTERESTING THINS....
01:19:06
Thompson, Larry - Chief Executive Officer
OF MAGNITUDE. WHEN YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING THESE SMALLER COMMUNITIES OR A CITY, YOU CAN OFTENTIMES DO THAT FOR 3,000 TO 5,000 PER LOCATION. SOMETIMES THESE...
01:23:30
Furchtgott-Roth, Harold - Director
HAROLD? >> I'M LETTING HAROLD TAKE THIS. >> YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN, AND IT WILL BE HARD ONCE I GET STARTED TO KNOW WHERE TO END. ...
01:25:42
Laudeman, Greg - Executive Director
THERE, AS HAROLD POINTS OUT, THEY ARE HUGE BARRIERS TO INNOVATION. >> LET ME JUST MENTION ALSO AS FAR AS THE ORDER GOES, NOT
01:25:54
Thompson, Larry - Chief Executive Officer
ONLY DID IT ACCELERATE THAT DECLINE IN SUPPORT THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER SO THAT THE AMOUNT OF THE MONEY AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THESE BROADBAND...
01:27:04
Furchtgott-Roth, Harold - Director
REGRESSION ANALYSIS CHANGES BY THE QUARTER OR THE YEAR. THERE'S NO CERTAINTY THAT WHATEVER REGRESSION ANALYSIS THE COMMISSION IS WORKING ON TODAY IS...
01:28:02
Thompson, Larry - Chief Executive Officer
IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR THESE COMPANIES TO GO OUT AND SECURE CAPITAL TO INVEST EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO. NO LENDER, EVEN INCLUDING RUS RIGHT NOW SEEMSES...
01:30:44
Furchtgott-Roth, Harold - Director
WIDESPREAD 4-G BROADBAND SPEEDS FOR WIRELESS SERVICES DEING DEPLOYED. ALL OF THAT'S GREAT AND THE MARKET CAN AND WILL ACCOMMODATE THAT. HOW FAR THAT...
01:31:21
Crocker, Elizabeth - Executive Director
PAPER FOR THE FOUNDATION CALLED WIRELESS MEETS WIRESES A FEW YEAR AGO. WE CAN MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE HERE. IT'S ACTUALLY A FANTASTIC PIECE AS...
01:31:37
Weinstein, Kenneth R. - Chief Executive Officer
E-MAIL. FROM RON HEINZ. HIS POINT IS THAT UNIVERSAL SERVICE IS NOT A BUDGET ITEM AND SOME SAY URBAN POPULATIONS WHERE PEOPLE ARE, HAYES PUTS IT, TIRE...
01:31:58
Thompson, Larry - Chief Executive Officer
IMPRESSION? >> RON BRINGS UP A GREAT POINT. BECAUSE I THINK OFTENTIMES YOU LOOK AT THESE SUPPORT MECHANISMS AND PEOPLE LOOK AT IT AS IT'S ANOTHER TAX...
01:33:17
Furchtgott-Roth, Harold - Director
WHAT RON IS REFERRING TO IS THE FEDERAL UNIVERSE FUND USER FEE THAT IS ATTACHED TO TELECOMMUNICATIONS SERVICE CENTERS, INTERSTATE TELECOMMUNICATION...
01:35:13
Weinstein, Kenneth R. - Chief Executive Officer
MECHANISM. >> ANOTHER QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE? LET ME ASK A QUESTION. THERE SEEMS TO BE TWO KINDS OF BROADBAND GAPS IN THIS COUNTRY. ONE IS THE RURAL...
01:35:57
Thompson, Larry - Chief Executive Officer
SAID, IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT, TYPICALLY YOU'RE SERVED BY EITHER FIBER OR VERY SHORT COPPER LOOPS. THE SHORT COPPER LOOPS, YOU CAN GET REASONABLY...
01:36:53
Crocker, Elizabeth - Executive Director
ABOUT POPULATION DENSITY TODAY IN RURAL AREAS BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE GEOGRAPHIC BARERS THAT TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMPANIESES FACE....
01:37:34
Laudeman, Greg - Executive Director
MUCH TECHNOLOGICAL CHALLENGE. IT'S A BUSINESS MODEL CHALLENGE. NOT ONLY DID SOME TECHNOLOGIES WORK BETTER IN URBAN AREAS THAN RURAL AREAS BUT SOME BUSINESS...
01:38:32
Thompson, Larry - Chief Executive Officer
BACK IN THE '30s WHEN A LOT OF THESE FARMING NETWORKS WERE PUT TOGETHER, THEY WERE RUNNING TELEPHONE LINES ON THEIR BARBED WIRE FENCES AND STUFF TO GET...
01:40:15
Weinstein, Kenneth R. - Chief Executive Officer
GOING TO BE AND WHAT THIS IMPLIES FOR THE URBAN/RURAL GAP. A DECADE AGO THE ASSESSMENTS LOOKED AT COMPARISON OF SPEEDS AVAILABLE FROM DIAL UP NOW WE...
01:43:07
Laudeman, Greg - Executive Director
OUR WIRELESS SPECTRUM, PARTICULARLY IN RURAL AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE MORE WHITE SPACE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS FIBER IS ALWAYS...
01:43:50
Weinstein, Kenneth R. - Chief Executive Officer
IS HOVERING OVER THE DISCUSSION TO SOME DEGREE. I THINK OVER THE PAST 50 YEARS WE'VE SEEN THAT THE POTENTIAL FOR VARIOUS PROBLEMS TO BE SOLVED CHANGES...
01:45:54
Thompson, Larry - Chief Executive Officer
AS FAR AS INNOVATIONS THAT WE COULD POTENTIAL SEE ON THE HORIZON THAT'S GOING TO BE A GAIL CHANGER, ONE THING YOU GOT TO REALIZE IS WE'RE NOT GOING...
01:48:02
Furchtgott-Roth, Harold - Director
LOOK AT IN TECHNOLOGICAL TERMS IN A FEW YEARS. I THINK IT'S DIFFICULT TO ANTICIPATE TEN YEARS AGO. TECHNOLOGY IS OBVIOUSLY CHANGING VERY RAPIDLY. IN...
01:49:18
Crocker, Elizabeth - Executive Director
INVESTED IN APPLE NOT SO LONG AGO WE WOULD BE MUCH WEALTHIER AND IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO. WHATEVER THE NEXT BIG THING, FOUR MEGABYTESITS IS NOT GOING...
01:50:08
Kuttner, Hanns - Visiting Fellow
OR URBAN AND THAT'S ONLY ONE METRIC THAT YOU EVER. WHAT WE SAW IN THOSE DENSITY GRAPHS IS A ONE LITTLE LINE DOESN'T CAPTURE IT. A BIG PART OF THE GABP...
01:50:56
Thompson, Larry - Chief Executive Officer
CAN TELL ME THAT I'M RIGHT AND I'LL SIT DOWN. >> I AGREE. WHEN YOU GET A CLUSTER OF HOMES, IT MIGHT BE A TOWN RATHER THAN THE 2500 POPULATION, IF IT...
01:51:38
Laudeman, Greg - Executive Director
ARE DIFFERENT. . >> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TECHNOLOGIES ARE, BUT THEY'RE COMING. RURAL AREA, YOU MIGHT SAY WHERE DO THEY FIT IN? THERE'S HUGE SEAS OF...
01:53:03
Furchtgott-Roth, Harold - Director
ABOUT HOW WE DO THIS TOO. >> YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. IN CONCENTRATED TOWNS AND RURAL AMERICA WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A HOSPITAL OR LARGE EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION,...
01:53:57
Weinstein, Kenneth R. - Chief Executive Officer
THAT? >> LET ME ASK ONE LAST QUESTION. IF THERE'S ONE THING YOU COULD CHANGE, WHAT WOULD EACH YOU HAVE DO IF THERE'S ONE POLICY YOU COULD CHANGE? >>...
01:54:21
Furchtgott-Roth, Harold - Director
ON THE POLICY SIDE. >> THERE'S SO MUCH I WOULD CHANGE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WOULD
01:54:33
Thompson, Larry - Chief Executive Officer
BEGIN. >> FROM A HIGH LEVEL I THINK I SAID IT WHEN I GAVE MY OPENING REMARKS IS THAT WE NEED TO MIGRATE FROM THESE SMALL CARRIERS FROM A VOICE CENTRIC...
01:55:28
Laudeman, Greg - Executive Director
OUT. >> IF I HAD MY MAGIC WAND AND COULD WAVE IT, I WOULD WISH FOR A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP DRIVEN BY COMPANIES FROM GOOGLE AND APPLE AND AMAZON...
01:56:55
Crocker, Elizabeth - Executive Director
TRANSFORMANT. >> I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO WHOLE CHANGING POLICY OR DIRECTING POLICY, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR EVERYONE IN WASHINGTON TO UNDERSTAND THAT FOLKS...
01:57:38
Weinstein, Kenneth R. - Chief Executive Officer
A COUPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED FROM VARIOUS PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. HOW MUCH MONEY IN THE 2009 RECOVERY AND REINVESTMENT ACT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN RURAL
01:57:57
Thompson, Larry - Chief Executive Officer
BROADBAND? SILENCE. >> THERE'S $7.2 BILLION THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO TELECOM RELATED PROJECTS. AS FAR AS THE BREAKDOWN, IT WOULD BE MORE THAN HALF -- I'VE...
01:58:47
Furchtgott-Roth, Harold - Director
THAT? >> THE PREMISE OF THE STIMULUS IS YOU COULD HAVE A ONE TIME INFUSION OF CAPITAL. MAYBE SOME OF THAT COULD HAVE WORKED. THERE WAS AN EXTRAORDINARILY...
02:00:46
Laudeman, Greg - Executive Director
OF LEAKING BETWEEN D.C. AND THE RURAL AREAS? YES, THERE WAS A LOT OF LEAKING. THE KEY ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IS NOT WHAT YOU HAVE, THAT'S...
02:02:12
Weinstein, Kenneth R. - Chief Executive Officer
BEEN A EXTRAORDINARY DISCUSSION. I WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM HERE AT HUDSON FOR ALL THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS AND THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM...
02:02:24
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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