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Jaschik, Scott - Co-Founder and Editor
CONVERSATIONS] >> WELCOME TO THE CONCLUDING DAY OF THE SYMPOSIUM ON THE FUTURE OF PUBLIC RESEARCH UNIVERSITIES. BEFORE I INTRODUCE THE PANEL, JUST REMIND...
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| 00:08:29 |
Sullivan, Thomas - President
THERE BE A DIFFERENT ASPIRATION FOR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE GREAT UNIVERSITIES, OR IS IT THE SAME? >> WELL, I THINK THE ANSWER HAS TO BE A DEFINITE NO, THERE...
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| 00:10:03 |
Duderstadt, James J. - President Emeritus
CANNOT LOSE THAT INVESTMENT. WE HAVE TO MAKE A BETTER CASE WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS. >> HIGHER EDUCATION IN AMERICA IS INTENSELY COMPETITIVE AND WE COMPETE...
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| 00:12:43 |
Grasso, Domenico - Vice President
IN SOME CASES CHANGE THE WORLD THAT GIVES US A CERTAIN EDGE IN ATTRACTING ATTRACTING TALENT OR PERHAPS WE'LL BE PRIVATE, EVEN THE VP SALARIES, MAY NOT...
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| 00:14:34 |
Dabars, William - Research Fellow
BE SOMETHING THAT PLAYS OUT ACROSS THE ACADEMIC CULTURE. IT WILL REACH ACROSS THE GLOBE. >> PUBLIC RESEARCH UNIVERSITIES PRODUCE SOMETHING LIKE 85% OF...
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| 00:16:11 |
Jaschik, Scott - Co-Founder and Editor
GOOGLE SEARCHES, BREAKTHROUGH TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED COME OUT OF OUR PUBLIC IMPACT OF RESEARCH UNIVERSITIES. >> SO YOU ALL SEEM GENERALLY...
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| 00:17:10 |
Sullivan, Thomas - President
RESEARCH BREAKTHROUGHS? DOES THAT SAY THAT WE WILL ONLY HAVE IT IN SOME AREAS? >> I THINK THE QUESTION HAS TO BE ONE OF BALANCE. AND THE RIGHT PROPORTION...
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| 00:19:11 |
Duderstadt, James J. - President Emeritus
SAFETY RESEARCH OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST. WE CANNOT DO THIS ALL ALONG, INDIVIDUALLY, ARE YOU IF YOU DID IT TO HER OWN THEIR ADVANTAGE....
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| 00:21:15 |
Jaschik, Scott - Co-Founder and Editor
COMPETITION BETWEEN THESE INSTITUTIONS. >> I WANT TO FOLLOW-UP ON THAT ISSUE BECAUSE WHEN REPORTS COME OUT, PRIVATE RESEARCH UNIVERSITY PRESIDENTS WILL...
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| 00:21:49 |
Duderstadt, James J. - President Emeritus
I AM CURIOUS, SHOULD YOUR PRIVATE COLLEAGUES SAY, OKAY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS? >> SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I TRIED TO BROKER JUST SUCH...
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| 00:23:00 |
Jaschik, Scott - Co-Founder and Editor
THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE REALLY HAS TO RECOGNIZE THAT THEY ARE HEAVILY DEPENDENT. >> YOU FEEL THAT THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE? >> ARE YOU ASKING IF
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| 00:23:27 |
Grasso, Domenico - Vice President
THEY RAISE MORE ATTRACTIVE PACKAGES AND DO SO IN A WAY THAT TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THE RELATIVE STRENGTH? >> WELL, I THINK THAT IF YOU WERE TRYING TO BUILD...
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| 00:25:51 |
Dabars, William - Research Fellow
ACROSS ALL DISCIPLINES EQUALLY AND NOT MAKE STRATEGIC DECISIONS. THAT IS WHAT THEY DO. >> WELL, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO BEAR IN MIND THAT ALL PUBLIC...
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| 00:27:12 |
Sullivan, Thomas - President
WELL. WHICH PRIVATE UNIVERSITIES CAN LEVERAGE TO THEIR ADVANTAGE. >> MAY I INTERJECT? YOUR QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH FACULTY. I THINK THE COMPETITION...
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| 00:28:30 |
Jaschik, Scott - Co-Founder and Editor
BE MADE FOR MORE SCHOLARSHIPS AND FINANCIAL AID TO LOWER THE PROBLEM OF AFFORDABILITY IN THIS COUNTRY, AS OPPOSED TO BUILDING MORE GIANT BUILDINGS THAT...
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| 00:30:10 |
Dabars, William - Research Fellow
AND WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT? ANYONE WANT TO TAKE A STAB AT THAT? SURE, PLEASE. >> THEY REPRESENT THE ACADEMIC CORE OF THE UNIVERSITY, OF WHAT JUSTIN...
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| 00:31:43 |
Duderstadt, James J. - President Emeritus
DO YOU THINK THE HUMANITIES ARE GETTING THE SHORT END OF THE STICK OR JUST JEALOUS OF THE NEW BUILDING FOR THE ENGINEERING COLLEGE? >> UH-HUH. I THINK...
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| 00:33:47 |
Sullivan, Thomas - President
THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES NOT SIMPLY WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY FACULTIES, BUT WITHIN THE CURRICULUM IN A WAY IT HAS NOT FOR MANY DECADES. >> TOM, HOW DO YOU...
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| 00:34:56 |
Jaschik, Scott - Co-Founder and Editor
LIBERAL ARTS AND THE HUMANITIES. THAT STARTS WITH A CONVERSATION, I THINK, WITH THE PARENTS AT HOME. >> IS IT A LEGITIMATE CRITERIA, THOUGH, IN EVALUATING...
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| 00:35:29 |
Grasso, Domenico - Vice President
THE NSF OR NIH, AND IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF UNIVERSITIES ARE NOT DEFINING THEIR EXCELLENCE IN PART BY WHERE CAN WE RAISE MONEY? >> I'D LIKE TO JUST...
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| 00:38:00 |
Dabars, William - Research Fellow
EASIER AS THAT EVOLVES. >> PICKING OP WHAT WAS SAID ABOUT THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE HUMAN CONDITION, THE ACADEMIC CULTURE HAS BEEN MOVING TOWARDS A PERIOD...
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| 00:39:15 |
Jaschik, Scott - Co-Founder and Editor
AND SO IT'S -- IT'S SHORT SIDED TO GIVE SHORT THRIFT TO THE HUMANITIES. >> PERHAPS WE HAVE AN ENLIGHTENED PANEL HERE, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING...
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| 00:40:29 |
Sullivan, Thomas - President
DO YOU SEE AS THE PERSONNEL POLICIES RESULTED TO THE FACULTY THAT NEED BOLSTERING OR CHANGING? >> SCOTT, I THINK IT STARTS WITH HOW IT OPERATES ON...
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| 00:41:41 |
Duderstadt, James J. - President Emeritus
TO PROGRESSIVELY BE ABLE TO ADVANCE THROUGH THEIR CAREER, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT INCEMENTIVE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THERE. >> THIS IS A CHALLENGING...
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| 00:44:53 |
Grasso, Domenico - Vice President
AND THEY HAVE SKILLS THAT ARE OF ENORMOUS BENEFIT TO INSTITUTIONS IF USED CORRECTLY. >> I THINK THAT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE MOVED FROM A RETIREMENT PLAN...
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| 00:46:02 |
Dabars, William - Research Fellow
INCENTIVE PLANS FOR THAT, THE FACULTY WILL ALWAYS DO THE RIGHT THING. >> NO, I MEAN, I THINK THAT ALL OF THIS SHOULD BE APPRECIATED IN THE DECLINE OF...
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| 00:46:24 |
Jaschik, Scott - Co-Founder and Editor
THAT'S DRIVING, FOR EXAMPLE, THE DECLINE IN TENURE. >> I WANT TO SHIFT TO THE ENTRY POINT, ACADEMIC CAREERS, GRADUATE EDUCATION, AND THE GREAT PUBLIC...
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| 00:46:57 |
Duderstadt, James J. - President Emeritus
GRADUATING AS MANY PEOPLE AS THEY ARE WHEN THEY -- WHEN THERE ARE NOT JOBS FOR THEM? >> TO RESPOND TO THAT, YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THERE'S ENORMOUS DIFFERENCE...
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| 00:50:21 |
Sullivan, Thomas - President
GARAGE WATT EDUCATION. >> SCOTT, I THINK IT'S HEALTHY FOR A UNIVERSITY, PERIODICALLY TO EXAMINE AND RE-EXAMINE THE SIZE, THE SCOPE, AND THE QUALITY OF...
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| 00:51:43 |
Q & A
THE GRADUATE PROGRAMS. I THINK THE PERIODIC STRATEGIC REVIEW OF THE PROGRAMS IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL. >> I WANT TO OPEN IT UP NOW TO THE AUDIENCE. ...
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| 00:52:59 |
Duderstadt, James J. - President Emeritus
CONTRACTING, THERE'S A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE TO HAVING THIS KIND OF EDUCATION. >> YOU KNOW, IT'S STRUCK ME ONE OF THE STUDENTS THAT APPLE WOULD RATHER...
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| 00:54:42 |
Jaschik, Scott - Co-Founder and Editor
A LIBERAL ARTS UNDERGRADUATE DEGREE BEFORE THEY ENTER THE TRAINING FOR ENGINEERING. I THINK IT REENFORCES EXACTLY WHAT YOU FOUND. >> YOU KNOW, I JUST...
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| 00:56:05 |
Duderstadt, James J. - President Emeritus
BETTER THAN NONCOLLEGE GRADUATES, LIBERAL ARTS ARE GETTING JOBS AND DOING WELL, JUST NOBODY'S DOING PARTICULARLY WELL RIGHT NOW. >> I FEEL OBLIGED TO...
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| 00:57:56 |
Sullivan, Thomas - President
TO SOCIETY, BUT I WONDER IF WE ARE NOT CAPTURED BY THE FUNDING POTENTIAL THAT LEADS US TO PUSH THESE OTHER SPIRES? >> DAVE, THAT WAS MY POINT EARLIER...
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| 00:58:52 |
Grasso, Domenico - Vice President
MAKE THE CASE AND BE SUCCESSFUL, SHAME ON US. >> NIP ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK TO THAT? >> I TOTALLY, OBVIOUSLY AGREE NOT JUST WITH TOM, BUT MY BOSS. [LAUGHTER]...
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| 00:59:42 |
Dabars, William - Research Fellow
PART OF WHAT IS BEING CONTRIBUTED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BY UNIVERSITIES. >> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO REALIZE THAT EVEN...
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| 01:00:31 |
Jaschik, Scott - Co-Founder and Editor
BUT CREDITTIVITY, THE ENTIRE -- JUST WHY EMPLOYERS DO VALUE LIBERAL ARTS GARAGE WATTS. >> AGAIN, NOT TO BE A DOWNER, BUT I THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT...
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| 01:02:03 |
Duderstadt, James J. - President Emeritus
JOBS. THERE'S A STRONG PULL IN POLITICAL SOCIETY AGAINST THE TRENDS OR IDEAS TALKED ABOUT HERE. >> LET ME COMMENT FOR A MOMENT BECAUSE I THINK TO MAKE...
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| 01:03:42 |
Sullivan, Thomas - President
TO KIND OF TAILOR THE MESSAGE TO, YOU KNOW, PERCEPTION AND THE REALITY OF THE TIMES, AND THAT'S A SHIFTING REQUIREMENT. >> SCOTT, TO PICK UP ON JIM'S...
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| 01:04:25 |
Dabars, William - Research Fellow
THROUGH PRESS RELEASES OR GLOSSY BROTURES, BUT -- BROCHURES, BUT BRING THEM TO THE CAMPUS TO SHOW THEM. THAT'S VERY POWERFUL TO PUBLIC POLICYMAKERS....
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| 01:06:15 |
Duderstadt, James J. - President Emeritus
THINK THAT PRESIDENT SULLIVAN HAD IT EXACTLY RIGHT AS TO WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING. >> WELL, LET ME COMMENT ON THAT AL LITTLE BIT. IN JULY, THE REGIONS...
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| 01:08:16 |
Sullivan, Thomas - President
BUT HAVING FOUGHT THIS BATTLE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES, I DON'T HAVE A CLUE OP HOW TO DO IT. >> RON, YOUR POINT IS WELL MADE, AND I THINK THIS...
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| 01:10:14 |
Fogel, Daniel Mark - President
STATE ABOUT WHO ARE THE TRUSTEES AND WHO SHOULD BE MAKING THE DECISIONS IN THESE CONVERSATIONS. MAYBE VERMONT WILL TAKE THE LEAD AGAIN IN THE CONVERSATIONS....
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| 01:14:41 |
Sullivan, Thomas - President
ABOUT STUDENTS AND STUDENTS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE THE WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY, SO, THANK YOU. >> WELL, I THINK IT STARTS AT THE TOP. WITH REGARD TO...
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| 01:16:00 |
Jaschik, Scott - Co-Founder and Editor
FORWARD, AND I THINK IT STARTS FROM THE TOP, AND WHEN YOU SEE IT, THAT DEVIATING FROM THAT CULTURE, YOU HAVE TO CALL IT OUT. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY...
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| 01:22:13 |
Duderstadt, James J. - President Emeritus
NOT EASY TO ESTABLISH. THEY GOT THE SKILLS, ESPECIALLY IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE GOOD GRADES SO I WONDER WHAT YOU THINK OF ALL OF THAT. >> >> LET ME COMMENT....
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| 01:24:15 |
Sullivan, Thomas - President
DO WE REALLY PREPARE AND THEN USE THOSE YEARS TO PREPARE SOMEONE FOR A LIFELONG EXPERIENCE AND NEED TO LEARN? NOT AN EASY CHALLENGE. >> PETER, I WOULD...
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| 01:26:21 |
Grasso, Domenico - Vice President
OUT HOW TO DELIVER ON THAT OR HELP THEM DELIVER BECAUSE THEY GO TO SCHOOL IN PART BECAUSE THEY HOPE TO BE EMPLOYEDED. >> I WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE...
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| 01:29:00 |
Dabars, William - Research Fellow
WITH HUMANITIES SO ENGINEERS DO NOT THINK ABOUT WHERE TO GET THE FIRST JOB, BUT WHERE TO GET THE FIRST JOB AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND CREATE MORE JOBS....
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| 01:29:52 |
Jaschik, Scott - Co-Founder and Editor
DEMONSTRATING THE CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS. THE THINKING OF THE BOOK WHICH FOCUSED ON THE RESULTS THAT ARE VISIBLE AT THE INSTITUTION TO REQUIRE STUDENTS...
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