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THE ACTIVISTS WHO ARE PART OF A GROUP CALLED THE DAY AFTER PROJECT. THEY PRESENTED A TRANSITION PLAN FOR SYRIA WHICH THEY SAY IT STARTED BEING USED BY...
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| 00:00:38 |
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THAT EVERYONE IS HERE TODAY FOR A VERY IMPORTANT, TO HEAR ABOUT A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECTS SPONSORED BY THE INSTITUTE OF PEACE. MY JOB PRINCIPALLY IS...
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| 00:01:48 |
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WE ARE DELIGHTED TO SEE YOU WHILE HERE THIS MORNING. IT'S GOING TO BE OF VERY A VERY VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION ABOUT SYRIA AFTER ASSAD AND THE CHALLENGES...
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| 00:08:28 |
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WITHOUT YOU, WE WOULD NOT HAVE COME AS FAR AS WE HAVE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT FROM THE START. BY JUNE, 2011 WHEN THE SYRIAN UPRISING HAS BEEN SORT...
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| 00:16:14 |
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MINDSET AND THE ORIENTATION OF SYRIANS ON THE GROUND ABOUT THE FUTURE AND THE WORK ON THE TRANSITIONAL JUSTICE COMPONENT OF THE DOCUMENT. I THINK IT...
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| 00:18:45 |
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IS THE NATURE OF GLOBAL MEDIA THAT WE TEND TO BECOME AWARE OF A CRISIS SITUATION AFTER SOMETHING HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME. SYRIANS HAVE BEEN...
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| 00:25:13 |
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PROJECT. THE SECURITY SECTOR REFORM WORK OF OUR PROJECT AND IT IS THE SECOND ISSUE AREA THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL IMPLICATIONS BOTH TO THE FATE OF...
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| 00:27:14 |
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LIBERATED. THIS DOCUMENT -- IT IS A LIST OF SUGGESTIONS FOR A FUTURE TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT BUT NONETHELESS WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT TO BE RELEVANT...
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| 00:31:03 |
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DIMENSION OF THE CONFLICT WITH WHICH OUR PROJECT ENGAGE CONCERNS THE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL RECONSTRUCTION. THE REVOLUTION HAS PRODUCED EXTRAORDINARY DESTRUCTION...
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| 00:33:32 |
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SAD AND AND RAMI AND STEVE HAVE SAID, WE ARE THE CONNECT THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS OF THE INTERNALLY DISPLACED. WE ARE LOOKING AT A REFUGEE CRISIS OUTSIDE...
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| 00:37:17 |
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DEBATING IT. THE DOCUMENT NOW EXISTS IN THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS TO IT FROM HERE? I'VE MENTIONED MY SENSE OF MAKING CASE PEAK FOR THE GROUP AS A...
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| 00:39:29 |
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IT HAS BEEN 15 MONTHS SINCE I MET CHIEF IN BEIRUT. THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I MET YOU. AND I WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT MY REVOLUTIONARY FICTION AND YOU...
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| 00:45:42 |
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MADE CLEAR. RAMI, YOU MENTIONED THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNICATING IDEAS TO THE SYRIAN PEOPLE THEMSELVES. AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE ATTENTIVE TO AND...
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| 00:46:27 |
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THE COUNTRY. THEY HAVE THE DOCUMENT AND ARE CIRCULATING IT TO DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE DEVELOPED A COMMUNICATIONS ...
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| 00:47:51 |
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ON EITHER SIDE OF THE AUDITORIUM AND WE WOULD ASK YOU TO LINE UP THE HIGH AND THE MIKE'S IN ORDER TO ASK OUR PRESENTERS HERE THIS MORNING QUESTIONS....
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| 00:49:44 |
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FOUR. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE PROSPECTS, POSSIBLY EXTENDING BACK PRIOR TO THE REVOLUTION AND POSSIBLY BACK IN 1963? AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN, MAYBE THE IMPORTANCE...
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| 00:50:19 |
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AND THAT IS EXTREMELY A SIGNIFICANT WOUND IN THE SYRIAN MOMENTS, GIVEN OUR RECENT AND HOW LARGE, AND AS MY COLLEAGUE AND FRIEND HERE, RAFIF, WAS DISCUSSING...
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| 00:54:07 |
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SERVICE. MY
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| 00:54:08 |
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QUESTION IS ACTION WANT TO COMMENT. THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS IS A BLUEPRINT -- NOT A BLUEPRINT, BUT A WORK IN PROGRESS AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW...
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| 00:55:01 |
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AND THIS OF COURSE WILL LEAVE IT UP TO ANY TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT TO ADVISE HIS FOREIGN POLICY, HOPEFULLY IN CONSULTATION WITH THE TRANSITIONAL DEMOCRATIC...
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| 00:55:32 |
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IDEA THAT, SORT OF THE IDEA THAT ACCOUNTABILITY COULD CAUSE MEMBERS OF THE REGIME FOR INDIVIDUALS AND GROUPS ASSOCIATED WITH THE REGIME TO PROLONG...
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| 00:56:09 |
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MADE ACCOUNTABLE. ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU HAVE THAT PRAGMATIC POLITICAL NEED AT THE SYRIANS HAVE TO FACE. SO WE RECOMMEND WE TRIED TO CREATE SOMEWHAT...
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| 00:57:48 |
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U.S. IN THE
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| 00:57:49 |
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MIDDLE OF THE REVOLUTION I STARTED BECOMING AFRAID OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN SYRIA, ASSOCIATE AND THEY STARTED USING THE SET. CARD. WHEN I COME AND LISTEN...
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| 00:58:22 |
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THAT QUESTION A LITTLE BIT
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| 00:58:24 |
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MORE SERIOUSLY. WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE TRENDS OF THE REVOLUTION. I THINK WE HAVE SEEN THAT DURING THE PERIOD OF MAY TO AUGUST SEPTEMBER, THE REVOLUTION...
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| 00:59:28 |
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MY
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| 00:59:29 |
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INTERPRETATION. THIS
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| 00:59:30 |
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IS HOW I SEE THE TRAJECTORY I THINK YOU WILL SEE BECAUSE OF THE WAY -- BECAUSE OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THE REGIME, PARTICULARLY ON ITS RELIABLE MANPOWER,...
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| 01:01:37 |
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PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATORS WERE ALL ABOUT AND THEY WERE FACING THE BANKS AND SO ON. LOOK AT THE SITUATION TODAY. THE PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATIONS CONTINUE,...
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| 01:02:12 |
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30 GENERALS. OVER A YEAR AGO, WE WERE CONSTANTLY SPECULATING
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| 01:02:19 |
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WHETHER DAMASCUS AND THE ALEPPO WOULD BE TOUCHED BY THIS. WELL, OVER 50% OF THE ALEPPO TODAY HAS BEEN LIBERATED. MAJOR TERRITORIES IN THE NORTH OF SYRIA...
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| 01:03:48 |
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AROUND
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| 01:03:50 |
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THE COUNTRY, THAT THESE PEOPLE CONTINUE TO GO OUT DESPITE THE REGIME VIOLENCE. IS A TESTAMENT TO THEIR DESIRE TO EXPEDITE THE FALL OF THE REGIME. BUT...
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| 01:04:58 |
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CREATED A HEARING WASTE MASSACRES IN CERTAIN AREAS, ESPECIALLY IN THE WESTERN SIDE OF SYRIA, WHICH IS REALLY A VULNERABLE AREA, GIVEN ITS SECTARIAN...
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| 01:07:00 |
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RIGHT AFTER THE CLOSE ON HOT EVENTS WERE PUBLICIZED, YOU SAW A GOOD 10 TO 15 NEW
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| 01:07:06 |
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FACEBOOK PAGES. ALAWITE WITH THE REVOLUTION, KOFI ALEPPO AGAINST REVOLUTION. THAT SHOWS YET ANOTHER TRADITIONAL PILLAR AGAIN SUPPORT IS BASICALLY GONE....
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| 01:07:33 |
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WORK. I KIND OF WANTED TO DRAW AN EARLIER COMMENT, WHICH IS THE QUESTION EVERYONE HIGHS, WHO IS GOING TO BE THE LEADER, THE GREATEST PROBLEM THAT SEEMED...
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| 01:09:14 |
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ALTERNATIVE, NOT WHO IS THE ALTERNATIVES. IT IS A NATURAL REACTION OF PEOPLE COME THE SYRIANS WHO HAVE LIVED FOR FOUR DECADES UNDER A SINGLE TOTALITARIAN...
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| 01:11:43 |
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AND WHAT DOES THE REPORT SAY ABOUT THAT. AND I THINK THE RESPONSE THAT THE SYRIAN PARTICIPANTS IN OUR GROUP TOOK TO THIS ISSUE BECAUSE IT IS UNDERSTOOD...
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| 01:13:45 |
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ASSEMBLE, WE HAVE SOME NOT THOSE
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| 01:13:47 |
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WHO DIRECTLY CAME IN SOME OF THEM RECENTLY LAST. ONE OF THE REASONS THEY POSITIVELY RESPONDED TO THE DOCUMENT, AND THEY SHARE THIS WITH US, THEY SAID...
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| 01:14:49 |
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KNOW THE ANSWER RIGHT NOW, SOMETHING WELL COULD BE. UNLESS WE GO AND FIGHT FOR THE ALTERNATIVE AND THEN WE WILL KNOW WHO IS COMING. I WOULD BE SO COMFORTABLE...
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| 01:15:36 |
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REGARDLESS OF ETHNIC ORIGIN AND SECTARIAN AFFILIATION. YOU ARE RIGHT, THERE ARE FISSURES IN THE OPPOSITION, BUT THERE IS FAR MORE COMMON GROUND THAN...
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| 01:16:38 |
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AND WILL TRY TO INTEGRATE INTER CONVERSATIONS, SIR. >> JOE GUGGENHEIM, JUST AN INTERESTED CITIZEN AND WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR THE GOOD WORK YOU ARE DOING....
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| 01:16:49 |
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ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO NOW IN THE FUTURE TO STOP THE REFUGEES AND DISPLACED AND THEN HORRIBLE SITUATION. THE QUESTION IS, CAN A CEASE-FIRE BE ACHIEVED...
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| 01:18:40 |
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TO WITHDRAW MILITARY EQUIPMENT FROM CITIES. THAT ACCEPTANCE WAS MORE IN THE MEDIA BAN ON THE GROUND. THE ASSAD REGIME AGREED TO STOP SHOOTING AT UNARMED...
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| 01:19:41 |
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WISH BISHARA AL-ASSAD TO COMMIT. THAT IS WHAT I THINK WE REALLY WANT, TO HOPE THIS IS JUST FOR HIM AND HOPE HE WILL FOLLOW THAT. WE NEED TO BE CREDIBLE....
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| 01:20:05 |
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THE SYRIAN PEOPLE WHO WANT HIM TO STEP DOWN. THE WEST IS MERELY ECHOING WHAT WE WANT IT TO THEM A LONG TIME TO GET TO THAT POINT. IT TOOK ACTUALLY...
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| 01:20:34 |
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THE LAST THING. >> ALSO I THINK ONE OF THE MAJOR WEAKNESSES
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| 01:20:40 |
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OF THE KOFI ANNAN PLAN, ALTHOUGH SYRIANS AGREE TO THE IMPORTANCE
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| 01:20:44 |
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OF THE SIX-POINT PLAN AND EVEN THE SYRIAN ARMY ACTUALLY, IF YOU REMEMBER, THEY AGREED TO THE CEASE-FIRE, BUT THIS YEAR AND REGIME DID NOT COMPLY AT...
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| 01:22:06 |
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PROMISE TO BE BRIEF. >> I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. >> I WILL BE EVEN BRIEFER. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ISSUES
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| 01:22:16 |
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OF NEGOTIATION AND PEACE
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| 01:22:20 |
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PLANS, YOU HAVE TO ASSUME THAT
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| 01:22:21 |
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THE OTHER PARTY A CIVILIZED. WHEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER PARTY USING BARREL BOMBS TO HIT CIVILIAN AREAS, WHEN YOU HAVE SNIPERS TAKING OUR CHILDREN AND ...
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| 01:22:49 |
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TWO DAYS AGO, IN WHICH HE SAID THIS WAS FOR THE FIRST TIME A PUBLIC THAT HE IS GONE BUT THE MOST SENIOR LEADERS OF THE BAATH PARTY, TO ASK FOR A CEASE-FIRE...
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| 01:23:29 |
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IS DIRECTED AT YOU VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. BUT WITH THE HASH TAG YOU MENTIONED? AND KIDNEYS A LA? >> STORY ON A -- THANK YOU. >> TWO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS....
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| 01:23:49 |
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OF OPPORTUNITY. BUT WHAT FORCE CAN OR WILL BE USED
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| 01:23:53 |
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TO SECURE STABILITY IN THE POST ASSAD. AND I IMAGINE THAT THE IMPLICATION IS THAT SOME EXTERNAL FORCE MIGHT BE NEEDED. OUR SYRIANS PREPARED TO ACCEPT...
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| 01:24:21 |
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WORLD. SO YOU DO HAVE MANY PEOPLE
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| 01:24:25 |
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WHO WANT AN INTERVENTION IMMEDIATELY IN ORDER TO STOP THE BLOODLETTING. AND YOU HAVE THOSE PEOPLE CRYING FOR NO-FLY ZONES AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO CALL...
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| 01:25:12 |
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THE PROJECT SUPPORTERS ALSO SUPPORT REFERRALS TO THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT THAT MIGHT ALSO IMPLICATE THE FREE SYRIAN ARMY? >> IN FACT IN THE...
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| 01:25:33 |
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BY EITHER SIDE THAT WE NEED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE AND MANY SYRIANS I'VE TALKED TO AGREE WITH THIS. IN FACT, IN LAST WEEK THERE HAS BEEN PUBLIC OUTCRIES TO...
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| 01:26:30 |
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FREE SYRIAN ARMY TO SIGN A CODE OF CONDUCT BASED ON THE INTERNATIONAL LAW. BEYOND THAT, WHEN THERE WERE NEWS REPORTS SURFACING ABOUT SSA INFRACTIONS,...
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| 01:27:06 |
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INTRODUCING SIGNIFICANT TENSION BETWEEN THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY AND A TRANSITIONAL AUTHORITY IN A POST-ASSAD SYRIA. THAT HAS TO DO WITH CONTROL AND...
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| 01:29:08 |
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THE OPPOSITION TAKES CERTAIN PARTS OF SYRIA BACK. HOW DO YOU FACILITATE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL POLICY BETWEEN THE TWO SO ONCE ASIDE IS TOPPLED, IT IS EASIER....
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| 01:29:32 |
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TO WORKING IN COLLABORATION WITH WHATEVER TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT DOES EMERGE. SO WE ARE SECURING AGREEMENTS AS THEY DEVELOP, AS THEY EMPOWER THEMSELVES....
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| 01:30:08 |
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YOU KNOW, PUTTING IN PRIORITY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FIRST IN TRYING TO GET SOME SENSE OF THE COSTS NEEDED AND START WORKING ON THAT. SO THERE IS A LOT...
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| 01:30:57 |
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GROUPS. AND MY QUESTION GOES BACK TO THE PROCESS OF CRAFTING THE
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| 01:31:00 |
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DOCUMENTS. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU PUT OUT FOR ADDITIONAL INPUT ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE DEBATED MOST INTENSE PLAY AS THE DOCUMENT WAS COMING...
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| 01:31:43 |
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SOCIAL ECONOMIC, WASN'T CONTENTIOUS, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR US TO GAUGE HOW BAD THE SITUATION WAS GOING TO BE WHEN THE COLLAPSE --...
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| 01:34:48 |
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WANTED TO ABOLISH THE SERVICES ALTOGETHER. NOW AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE THESE HAVE BEEN POLITICAL PRISONERS FOR A LONG TIME AND IT TOOK QUITE A WHILE TO...
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| 01:35:29 |
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ISSUES. WE WILL HAVE TO CONFRONT AND IN OUR GROUP THE ISSUE OF PROTECTION OF MINORITIES AND VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES WAS REALLY NOT A DEBATE. WE ALL AGREED...
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| 01:35:59 |
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MAKE. I WILL MAKE ONE VERY BRIEF FINAL COMMENT MYSELF AND THEN WE WILL ADJOURN. >> TED MEYER. THE TITLE OF TODAY'S EVENT SUGGESTS AN ABILITY TO SEE INTO...
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| 01:36:13 |
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FUTURE. I'M WONDERING IF THIS GIFT OF PROPHECY IS BASED ON THE CONVICTION THAT WE WILL GIVE UP UNTIL WE HAVE AFFECTED REGIME CHANGE IN SYRIA OR ARE...
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| 01:36:57 |
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PROBLEMS IN SYRIA OR OUR EFFORTS TO
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| 01:37:00 |
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MANAGE THE PROBLEM, TO MANAGE THE CRISIS THAT IS GOING ON THERE. NO MATTER HOW THE SITUATION WILL EVOLVE IN THE COUNTRY WE WILL KEEP DOING OUR BEST TO...
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| 01:37:29 |
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SUCCESSFUL. >>
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| 01:37:31 |
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THEY ARE REFERRING TO THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. OF. >> I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT THAT WITH REGARD TO OBJECTIVITY NO
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| 01:37:39 |
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WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY OBJECTED THAT WE CAN LOOK AT
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| 01:37:42 |
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THE SYRIAN SITUATION BOTH EMOTIONALLY AND ANALYTICALLY AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM AN ANALYTICAL PERSPECTIVE YOU SEE AN ECONOMY THAT IS ON IT'S LAST ITS...
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| 01:38:13 |
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FOR SURE. THE QUESTION IS WHAT WILL THE AND I THINK THAT IS MORE PERHAPS WHERE YOU SHOULD BE ASKING AND LOOKING. WILL IT BE AT THE COST OF THE ENTIRE...
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| 01:39:05 |
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INTERNATIONAL FORCES. I MEAN IRAN IS CURRENTLY INVOLVED AND SO IS HEZBOLLAH AND SO IS RUSSIA AND SO IS CHINA BECAUSE IT'S QUITE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW...
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| 01:40:34 |
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JULIA AND I AM SYRIAN TOO. I JUST FINISHED MY
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| 01:40:42 |
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MASTERS AND A I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO PICTURE WHAT SYRIA IS. WHAT THE FUTURE IS RATHER THAN WHO IS REPLACING WHO. IT IS WHAT SYRIA, WHAT IS THE FUTURE...
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| 01:42:14 |
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THE
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| 01:42:17 |
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MESSAGE. SYRIA IS OURS AND IT WILL BE WHAT WE WANTED TO BE. IT WILL TAKE A LOT OF HARD WORK AND WE WILL WORK WITH EVERYONE. WE HAVE THE VISION AND...
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| 01:43:12 |
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WE WILL GO -- >> I WILL JUST SAY THAT OUR NEXT STEP NOW IS TO BEGIN TO
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| 01:43:21 |
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TAKE THIS DOCUMENT AND SOCIALIZE AT IT IN BASICALLY
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| 01:43:24 |
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DISSEMINATED AS RAMI SAID AND ENGAGE WITH MANY PEOPLE AND I WOULD ALSO ADD WHEN WE HAVE WE PUT TOGETHER THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ENGAGED IN...
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| 01:44:02 |
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IS HOW ABOUT THE DAY BEFORE OR TODAY? GIVEN SOME OF THE CONCERNS YOU RAISED, THE REAL FRUSTRATION AND THE LONG PROCESS THAT IS HAPPENING AND ALSO THE...
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| 01:46:11 |
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QUO WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT? SO IT IS QUITE NATURAL THAT CHANGE IS IN THE VISIBLE AND THE SYRIAN PEOPLE HAVE DEMANDED THE CHANGE IN THE MERE FACT THAT...
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| 01:46:46 |
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MEANS IT DOES NOT BELONG TO THE ASSAD FAMILY. I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR TAKING THE TIME. I WOULD ADVISE EVERYONE THAT THIS...
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| 01:47:31 |
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INSIDE SYRIA. WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE AN ON LINE FORUM TO START AMONG THE SYRIAN PEOPLE TO KEEP GIVING FEEDBACK. WE HAVE ALREADY ENGAGED ON LINE AS...
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| 01:48:23 |
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SYRIAN OPPOSITION. THE FIRST, THAT IT LACKS A VISION FOR THE FUTURE AND THE SECOND, THAT THE SYRIAN OPPOSITION IS TOO FRACTIOUS INTO FRAGMENTED TO...
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