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FOUNDATION PRESENTS A STATEWIDE BROADCAST DEBATE BETWEEN THE LEADING CANDIDATES IN THE 201 U.S. SENATE ELECTION. AND NOW, THE PRESIDENT OF THE...
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SPONSORING WIDELY BROADCAST DEBATES IN MAJOR WISCONSIN POLITICAL COMPANIES. THIS DEBATE WILL BE BROADCAST ON OVER 0 TELEVISION STATIONS AND NATIONWIDE...
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ASSOCIATION OF COLLEGES AND YUFERES AND SAM WILSON, STATE DIRECTOR OF AARP. >> ALONG WITH WPF AND AARP WISCONSIN, WISCONSIN'S 23 PRIVATE NONPROFIT...
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ARE PLEASED TO SPONSOR THIS DEBATE BETWEEN THE MAJOR CANDIDATES FOR THE U.S. SENATE. TO BE COMPETITIVE IN THE GLOBAL KNOWLEDGE ECONOMY, WISCONSIN...
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AND GOVERNMENT FACE GROWING CHALLENGES. WE HOPE THAT OUR SPONSORSHIP OF THIS U.S. SENATE DEBATE WILL HELP YOU GAIN A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW...
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AND FINALLY FOR EACH CANDIDATE TO MAKE A CLOSING STATEMENT THEY HAVE ORDER OF RESPONSES HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY DECIDED BY A COIN FLIP. OUR PANELISTS...
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HARD, PLAYING BY THE RULES AND TRYING TO GET AHEAD. UNFORTUNATELY, FOR SO MANY, IT'S BEEN HARDER AND HARDER JUST TO GET BY. WHAT'S CHANGED HASN'T BEEN...
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BEING INVOLVED AND PUTTING THIS ON. I'M TOMMY THOMPSON, I WAS GOVERNOR OF THIS GREAT STATE FOR
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14 YEARS. WHILE I WAS GOVERN YORK CUT TAXES 9 TIMES. WE GAVE PEOPLE -- REFORMED WELFARE AND GAVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK. WE BUILT THE BEST...
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GOOD EVENING. >> GOOD EVENING, ROBERT, HOW ARE YOU? >> I'M GOOD. >> A LOT OF PEOPLE IN WISCONSIN COME TO THE STATE SINCE
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YOUR TIME AS GOVERNOR, MAYBE AREN'T AS
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FAMILIAR WITH YOU AS OTHERS,
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PERHAPS THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM HER DISTRICT ISN'T AS WELL KNOWN AROUND THE REST OF THE STATE. SO ONE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FINDING OUT ABOUT YOU NOW...
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SHE DOESN'T HAVE A RECORD TO RUN ON. ALL SHE CAN DO IS TRY TO GET THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF WISCONSIN NOT TO LEEK ME. THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS,...
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HEARD IN MY OPPONENT'S OPENING STATEMENT. YOU
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KNOW, SOMETIMES THE DEFINITIONS THAT WE THINK, WE ASSOCIATE WITH WORDS LIKE LIBERAL AND CONSERVATIVE, THE NAME CALLING, IT GETS KIND OF CRAZY. I...
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END OF THE YEAR AND BEFORE EITHER OF YOU IS SWORN IN AS A U.S. SENATOR, THE NATION FACES
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THE EXPIRATION OF THE BUSH ERA TAX CUTS AND THE 2% PAYROLL DEDUCTION AND A FORCED SPENDING CUT OF $100 BILLION UNLESS CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT OBAMA...
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IMPASSE AND GRIDLOCK WHERE TOO MANY IN WASHINGTON PUT THE INTERESTS OF THEIR PARTY OVER THE INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE. SEQUESTRATION, AS IT'S CALLED,...
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SINCE SHE'S BEEN IN CONGRESS, THE
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DEBT HAS GROWN FROM $6 TRILLION TO $16 TRILLION. $10 TRILLION. AND SHE'S VOTED FAR LOT OF NEW SPENING PROGRAMS. IN FACT, SHE INTRODUCED LEGISLATION TO...
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GOVERNOR THOMPSON, BEYOND THE CLIFF EFFECT, WE HAVE A $16 TRILLION DEBT. >> UH-HUH. >> INCREASING AT ABOUT $1 TRILLION A YEAR.
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THE NOTION THAT SOME SAY WE
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CANNOT LEVY ANY
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MORE TAXES, YOU SIGNED THE TAXPAYER PROTECTION PLEDGE, GROVER NORQUIST'S PLEDGE, AND CONGRESSWOMAN BALDWIN YOU SAID THAT YOU LIKE THE BUFFETT RULE AND...
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THE SAME PROBLEM WHEN I CAME IN AS GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF WISCONSIN, JOHN. WE WERE IN DEBT AND I CAME IN AND WITH DEMOCRATS IN CONTROL OF BOTH HOUSES...
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OUR
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DEBT. I'D END THE WAR, I'VE WORKED TO END THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN WHICH COSTS US $ BILLION A WEEK. I WOULD GET RID OF THE SWEETHEART DEAL TOMMY THOMPSON...
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YOU ABOUT TAX DEDUCTIONS. WHAT SORT OF TAX DEDUCTIONS MIGHT YOU BE LOOKING AT FOR
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CLOSING UP, ELIMINATING
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ALTOGETHER, THINGS LIKE TUITION OR CHILD CARE, THAT TYPE OF THING? WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN MIND FOR THAT? >> WELL, I DO THINK WE HAVE A TAX SYSTEM THAT...
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CONNECTED AND ANOTHER SET FOR THE REST OF US. AND IT'S HAPPENED OVER A LONG COURSE OF HAVING POWERFUL INTERESTS HAVE TOO MUCH POWER IN WASHINGTON AND...
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FOR ALL THE PROBLEMS OF
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CONGRESS. I WAS BACK IN WISCONSIN CREATING JOBS AND L.H.I. WHEN MY OPPONENT WAS IN WASHINGTON SPENDING AND TAXING TO SUCH A DEGREE. WE HAVE TO BALANCE...
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THE APPROVAL RATINGS OF CONGRESS CAN'T GET MUCH WORSE THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW. THE
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LACK OF PRODUCTIVITY WOULD BE A PROBLEM FOR THE REST OF US IN OUR JOBS. MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE THINGS HAVE TO CHANGE IN THE WAY CONGRESS OPERATES. ...
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LEGISLATURE IN BOTH HOUSES FOR 12 1/2 OUT OF MY 14 YEAR WELL, PLIBBED GREAT THINGS. WHY? BECAUSE I SAT DOWN WITH THE OTHER SIDE. WE REACHED AN AGREEMENT....
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ETC. CIVILITY AND I FIND
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THAT REGRETTABLE. I HAVE ALWAYS HAD GREAT SUCCESS IN REACHING ACROSS THE PARTY AISLE AND GETTING THINGS DONE, BOTH IN MY TIME IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE...
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THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS FOR WISCONSIN ARE FASCINATING TO LOOK AT. IT SAYS THAT BY 2035, THERE'S GOING TO BE A
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MILLION AND A HALF PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO WILL BE 65 OR OLDER. AND THAT'S TWICE AS MANY AS WE HAVE IN THIS STATE IN THE YEAR 2000. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE SOCIAL...
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THEM. BUT I ALSO NOTE I WAS EXPOSED AT A MUCH YOUNGER AGE TO THE VALUE OF BOTH MEDKEAR AND SOCIAL SECURITY. THEY PROVIDED ECONOMIC SECURITY TO MY...
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IS GOING
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TO GO BANKRUPT BY 2022. WE'VE GOT TO MAINTAIN SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE BUT IT'S AMAZING TO ME, WHY I WANT TO RUN SO BAD IS I WANT TO FECKS THE...
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OBAMACARE IS CERTAINLY A BIG ISSUE IN THIS CAMPAIGN ACROSS THE COUNTRY. YOU'VE BEEN TAGGED
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BY PRESIDENT OBAMA AS BEING A SUPPORTER OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND REPRESENT THE REPRESENTATIVE VOTED FOR IT IN CONGRESS. AS WE STAND HERE TODAY...
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D. THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW SENIORS TO HAVE DRUGS AND BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THOSE DRUGS. MY OPPONENT DOESN'T BELIEVE OBAMACARE GOES FAR ENOUGH. SHE WOULD...
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UP THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, THROW
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IT OUT AND HAVE MORE YEARS OF PARTISAN BICKERING OVER THIS. IT IS HIGH TIME THAT WE PULL TOGETHER ACROSS THE PARTY AISLE AND PUT THIS INTO FULL EFFECT...
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NOW THAT'S WORTH
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MAINTAINING? >> NO. RIGHT NOW THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT HAS 20 TAXES INCREASED. WE HAVE TO DO AWAY WITH
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THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, THEN WE CAN PUT IN THINGS LIKE MAKING SURE THAT THE INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE COVERED. PRE-EXISTING ILLNESS CAN...
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THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WHEN
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FULLY IMPLEMENTED WILL SET UP STATE-BASED, PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGES AND PEOPLE WILL GET HELP GETTING FULL COVERAGE. BUT WHAT IPPED TO --...
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A PROGRAM THAT SENIORS HAVE COME TO RELY ON. IT'S ALSO A PROGRAM THAT
00:29:09
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IF MODIFIED COULD ACTUALLY SAVE THE FEDERAL BUDGET A LOT OF MONEY. VICE PRESIDENT -- VICE-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE PAUL RYAN HAS A PLAN TO TURN IT...
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MEDICARE MAKES IN PEOPLE'S LIVES AT A MUCH EARLIER AGE THAN MOST DO BECAUSE I WAS RAISED BY MY GRANDPARENTS. AND MY GRANDMOTHER WAS ON MEDICARE BY...
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SECTOR. I BELIEVE WHAT NEEDS
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TO BE DONE, WE GOT TO PROTECT MEDICARE BUT ALL THE YEARS THAT MY OPPONENT SPENT IN WEAK, 14 YEARS, SHE NEVER INTRODUCED ONE BILL TO SAVE MEDICARE. ...
00:32:03
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ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU HOLDING UP HIS CARTOON BOMB IN THE U.N. EARLIER
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THIS WEEK. KIND OF DISTURBING TO A LOT OF AMERICAN I'M SURE BUT ISRAEL SAYS IF IRAN MOVES CLOSER TO BUILDING NUCLEAR WEAPONS IT'S GOING TO DO WHAT...
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HOLOCAUST NEVER EXISTED, BELIEVES THAT ISRAEL SHOULD BE DESTROYED AND HAS THREATENED AMERICA THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BLOCKADE THE GULF OF HORMUZ. WHICH...
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THREAT TO THE REGION, A THREAT TO OUR ALLIES,
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INCLUDING ISRAEL AND ESPECIALLY ISRAEL FOR WHICH IT IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT. IT'S A THREAT I TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY. IRAN MUST NOT BECOME CAPABLE OF...
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IN AFGHANISTAN, AMERICAN TROOPS BEING KILLED BY
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THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE TRAINING TO PROVIDE SECURITY FORER THAT COUNTRY, SOME OF THOSE TRAINING MISSIONS NOW HAVE BEEN PUT ON HOLD AT LEAST TEMPORARILY....
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AFGHANISTAN. IN THE DAYS AND MONTHS FOLLOWING THE NEN ATTACKS ON THE UNITED STATES. IT WAS A VERY CLEAR AND FOCUSED MEGS TO GO AFTER THOSE WHO PLANNED...
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SHE VOTED AGAINST THE SANCTIONS IN
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2006, 2009, AND 2010 AND IN AUGUST SHE VOTED FOR THEM BECAUSE SHE WAS RUNNING FOR THE UNITED STATES SENATE. COMPLETE CHANGE OF HEART. IN REGARDS TO AFGHANISTAN,...
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U.S. TROOPS TO BE IN AFGHANISTAN, REPRESENTATIVE, IN YOUR OPINION? >> 30 SECONDS. >> AT THIS POINT, WE ARE THERE ENGAGED IN WAR. THE MISSION I...
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AND COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY IN SHORT ORDER. THE
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NATION BUILDING, THE BUILDING OF HOSPITALS IN AFGHANISTAN WHEN WE HAVE NATION BUILDING NEEDS AT HOME IS NOT SUFFICIENT REASON AND WE NEED TO BRING OUR...
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THOMPSON. >> A MAJOR REASON THAT U.S. LYES ARE PUT AT STAKE IN THAT REGION, BRINGING IT HOME, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS ON
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DEVELOPING MORE ENERGY ALTURNTIVES IN THIS COUNTRY OFFSHORE DRILLING, OIL FROM FEDERAL LANDS THAT SORT OF THING. >> WHEN I WAS SECRETARY, I WENT UP...
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I FOUND OUT THAT THE AREA WE WANT TO DRILL IN ANWR IS ABOUT 2,000 ACRES IN 30,000 SQUARE MILES. IT'S LIKE PUTTING A POSTAGE STAMP ON A FOOTBALL FIELD....
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FOR OUR ECONOMY AS WELL AS OUR NATIONAL
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SECURITY. AND SO I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ALL HANDS ON DECK APPROACH TO THIS. I THINK WE CAN TO A LOT, IN TERMS OF EXTRACTION, HAVING A USE IT OR...
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OF WORK, OTHERS WHO ARE WATCHING US WHO USED TO HAVE JOBS THAT PAID BETTER. IN
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A LOT OF WAYS, I THINK THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT JOBS. IT'S ALL -- IT'S BEEN PART OF EVERY ANSWER. PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS INDICATED THAT HE BELIEVES THE...
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MOVING AGAIN TO
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GET BETTER JOBS. I BELIEVE THAT GOVERNMENT CAN DO THINGS TO FOSTER PRIVATE SECTOR JOB DEVELOPMENT. LET ME TALK ABOUT THE BASIC INVESTMENTS WE NEED...
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CREATING JOBS. LOOK
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AT WHAT I DID AT GOVERNOR. I WAS GOVERNOR FOR 14 YEARS. WE HAD HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT WHEN I CAME IN. I CUT TAXES 91 TIMES. WE GREW THIS STATE BY 742,000...
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ISSUE. ABORTION, SPECIFICALLY.
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CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT YOUR POSITION ON ABORTION WOULD BE AND HOW MUCH FEDERAL DOLLARS NEED TO BE SPENT ON THAT? >> I AM, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN, AND...
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PRO LIFE AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CORRECT POLICY. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT IS NEEDED IN AMERICA TODAY. >>...
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WISCONSINITES DO, THAT ABORTION SHOULD BE RARE AND
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SAFE. I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT TOPIC. IT'S WRENCHING FOR SOME TO GRAPPLE WITH IT. BUT I THINK THAT IMPORTANT LIFE DECISIONS HAVE TO...
00:45:23
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ARE ALLOWING, SOME ARE HAVING CIVIL UNIONS,
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IN PLACE OF THAT. WHAT'S YOUR STAND ON THAT? >> 71 OUT OF COUNTIES VOTED FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT IN WISCONSIN. I SUPPORT THOSE 71 COUNTIES.
00:45:38
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THAT SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IS NOT LEGAL IN THE STATE OF WISCONSIN. I SUPPORT THAT. IT'S AN ISSUE LEFT UP TO THE STATES AND THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD BE....
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RECOGNIZE WHAT THE VOTERS OF
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WISCONSIN DECIDED BACK IN 2006. WE KNOW THAT EVERY YEAR PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND CHANGING THEIR MINDS. I WAS VERY MOVED WHEN I SAW THE...
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NEXT QUESTION FOCUSES ON THE ENVIRONMENT, A NEW STUDY THAT CAME OUT SAID ASIAN CARP COULD INFEST ALL FIVE OF THE GREAT LAKES WITHIN
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20 YEARS. WHAT DO YOU FEEL THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN DO, PARTICULARLY YOU AS A U.S. SENATOR, TO HELP AVERT A DISASTER? >> REPRESENTATIVE BALDWIN....
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TO THE WATTERS THAT WE CHERISH SO MUCH AND
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IN PARTICULAR, THERE'S GREAT CONCERN THAT ASIAN CARP, ESPECIALLY ENTERING THE LAKE MICHIGAN THROUGH THE AREA IN CHICAGO, IS GOING TO PRESENT A THREAT....
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YOU KNOW, THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER
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IS, WE'VE GOT TO STOP IT. I MEAN THERE'S NO DILLY-DALLYING AROUND IT. THIS CARP INFESTATION GETS INTO THE GREAT LAKES IT WELL RUIN OUR FISHERIES....
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TO ASK YOU TO LIMB YOUR RESPONSE TO 0 SECONDS. >> THAT'S NOT FAIR. >> THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, SAID THAT THE SINGLE MOST
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IMPORTANT THING -- A REPUBLICAN LEADER SAID THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING
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WE WANT TO ACHIEVE IS FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA TO BE A ONE-TERM PRESIDENT. ALMOST INDICATING HE WILL NOT GIVE ANY COMPROMISE. IF THE PRESIDENT ELECTED...
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FOR US TO MAKE SURE WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO CONFRONT THE PROBLEM AND NOT POSTPONE THEM LEEK MY OPPONENT HAS BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST 14 YEARS....
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PARTY THAT INDIVIDUAL BELONGS
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TO BECAUSE WE'RE AMERICANS FIRST. AND IT'S HIGH TIME THAT WE PUT PARTISAN, THE NEXT ELECTION AND PARTISANSHIP BEHIND AND PUT THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS FIRST....
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AND A HALF MINUTE CLOSING STATEMENT. GOVERNOR THOMPSON? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WATCHING AND LISTENING TO TONIGHT. OUR COUNTRY IS IN CRISIS. THE REASON...
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AND GENTLEMEN, IS BECAUSE I HAVE THREE GREAT CHILDREN AND EIGHT GRANDCHILDREN. I'M RUNNING FOR THEM AND FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN. THE COUNTRY...
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HEAR FROM TWO VERY DIFFERENT CANDIDATES WITH TWO VERY DIFFERENT
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VISIONS FOR WISCONSIN'S FUTURE. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE TWO SETS OF RULES, ESPECIALLY IN OUR TAX CODE. THAT'S WHY I INTRODUCED THE BUFFETT...
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FORMER GOVERNOR TOMMY THOMPSON. THIS DEBATE HAS BEEN SPONSORED BY THE WISCONSIN BROADCASTERS ASSOCIATION FOUNDATION THROUGH GENEROUS GRANTS FROM THE...

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