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GUEST: THANK YOU. HOST: WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT CHICAGO SCHOOL HISTORY AND OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS FACING SIMILAR PROBLEMS. THESE PROBLEMS BEING FACED...
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| 00:00:20 |
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CHICAGO ARE NO DIFFERENT FROM BOSTON, PHILADELPHIA, D.C.. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? GUEST: IT IS A COMPLEX PROBLEM AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HURTS IS...
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| 00:00:39 |
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IT IS MORE COMPLEX THAN THAT. HOST: PEOPLE CRITICAL OF THE UNIONS SAY THAT THEY ARE THE REASON WE ARE IN THIS SITUATION. HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT?
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| 00:00:51 |
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GUEST: THE STATUS QUO IS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE IN THIS COUNTRY. CUT THE DROPOUT RATE DOES NOT
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| 00:01:00 |
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FLUCTUATE LIKE THE DOW JONES AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT. THE INTERNATIONAL ASSESSMENT OF STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT, THE UNITED STATES...
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| 00:01:48 |
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ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO CHANGE IS THE WHOLE -- WHO IS COMING INTO THE TEACHING PROFESSION? THERE IS NO SYSTEM
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| 00:01:56 |
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FOR RECRUITMENT FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION. NO BUSINESS OF ANY SIZE COULD SURVIVE WITH THAT KIND OF TURNOVER. IT COSTS TOO MUCH TO RECRUIT, TRAIN, AND HIRE...
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| 00:03:05 |
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IS EASY AND IS DONE ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO A TEACHER THAT SHOULD
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| 00:03:11 |
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NOT BE THERE, NO ONE WANTS THEM THERE. WE NEED TO HAVE A FAIR AND EFFICIENT SYSTEM. FAIR TO THE EMPLOYER, THE EMPLOYEE, EFFICIENT IN TIME AND COST. THE...
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| 00:04:09 |
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BLAME? GUEST: MY FIRST YEAR IN TEACHING I BELIEVE THAT IF I CARED ENOUGH AND WORK HARD ENOUGH I COULD DELIVER FOR EVERY STUDENT, BUT IT IS NOT
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| 00:04:21 |
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POSSIBLE. THERE ARE SO MANY DECISIONS MADE OUTSIDE THE CLASSROOM THAT INSIDE THE IMPACT MY STUDENTS, I HAVE TO HAVE A VOICE. TEACHING EVERY DAY ALL DAY...
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| 00:04:47 |
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RATE, A HIGH POVERTY RATE, A SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM -- HOW MANY OF THE STUDENTS USE THE PROGRAM FOR BREAKFAST AND LUNCH? HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE TEACHER...
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| 00:05:17 |
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IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS ASTHMA. IF DIAGNOSED AND TREATED, IT IS VERY MANAGEABLE IN MOST CASES. WHEN YOU NAMED ALL OF THOSE FACTORS, THE ANSWER IS IN THE...
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| 00:06:09 |
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SOME THINGS THAT WE DISAGREED WITH. AS WE LOOK AT THE NEW ROUND, IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THERE IS A GREAT DIVERSITY IN THE RACE TO THE TOP AND...
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| 00:07:08 |
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PHONE LINES ARE OPEN. YOU CAN JOIN THE CONVERSATION ON OUR TWITTER PAGE. JERRY IS ON THE PHONE FROM ILLINOIS. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: I HAD THE PRIVILEGE...
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| 00:07:32 |
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IT IS ABSOLUTELY VERY, VERY DIFFICULT. IT IS HARD FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO TEACH STUDENTS WITH THOSE NEEDS. I LEFT THERE AND I...
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| 00:09:19 |
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THERE ARE AREAS WE NEED TO FOCUS ON IN
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| 00:09:23 |
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TERMS OF COMBATING THE IMPACT OF POVERTY THAT HAVE BEEN HELD UP AROUND THE WORLD IS NUMBER ONE. 20 YEARS AGO, THEY WERE NOT THERE. ONE OF THE MAJOR CHANGES...
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| 00:11:21 |
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MENTIONED ONE AND THOSE ARE PENSION SYSTEMS. IN MANAGING THE PENSION SYSTEM TO MAKE THEM WORK, IT'S REALLY, QUOTE, SIMPLE, IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU MUST...
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| 00:12:36 |
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MUCH TO ADD TO THIS CONVERSATION. I BELIEVE. IN RAISING MY CHILD, I WAS -- I ASSURED MYSELF
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| 00:12:42 |
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THAT SHE WAS THROUGH THE PRECALCULUS WHEN SHE WAS THROUGH THE EIGHTH GRADE. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE CATHOLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM. THEN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS,...
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| 00:13:51 |
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TEACHER YOURSELF, WHAT DO YOU THINK? GUEST: WE DON'T JUST TEACH ARITHMETIC, GEE A.M. TRE AND ALGEBRA ARE MOVED BACK BUT HE MAKES AN EXCELLENT POINT,...
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| 00:14:03 |
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HAVE THE NUMBER OF WELL TRAINED MATH TEACHERS WE NEED AND PART OF THAT IS THE SYSTEM THAT UNDERSCORES EDUCATION. IN COUNTRIES LIKE FINLAND AND SINGAPORE,...
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| 00:15:17 |
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KNOW CONTENT YOU'RE A GOOD TEACHER. I DISAGREE WITH
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| 00:15:20 |
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THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY. I TAKE IT AS A PERSONAL INSULT WHEN SOMEONE ASSUMES THAT ANYBODY WITH A DEGREE IN MATH WAS TO HAVE -- ALL I NEEDED TO DO TO TEACH...
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| 00:16:29 |
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EDUCATION ASSOCIATION. JAN HAS A POINT, NEW RESEARCH HAS FOUND THAT NURTURING EARLY IN LIFE HELPS THE SOCIAL SKILLS AND MANY KIDS LACK PARENTS THAT...
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| 00:16:49 |
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CHILDHOOD EDUCATION. IT ALL SAYS THAT. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM OF NOT KNOWING WHAT TO DO. IT'S THE PROBLEM OF NOT HAVING THE WILL TO DO IT. WE NEED TO MAKE...
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| 00:17:18 |
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ALTHOUGH MR. VAN ROEKEL KIND
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| 00:17:20 |
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OF BURST MY BUBBLE THERE, BUT I ACTUALLY DO BELIEVE THAT SUBJECT MATTER, EXPERTISE, AND A TRUE PASSION AND ACCOMPLISHMENT, DEMONSTRATED ACCOMPLISHMENT...
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| 00:19:47 |
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SUSAN, YOU HAVE A LOT OF POINTS. I AGREE, CONTENT IS ESSENTIAL AND I LIKE WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT THE PASSION OF THE SUBJECT. I DECIDED
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| 00:19:54 |
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IN SEVENTH GRADE I WAS GOING TO BE A TEACHER AND FIRST DECIDED TO BE A TEACHER, THEN I STARTED THINKING ABOUT WHICH SUBJECT. WELL, I DON'T HAVE THAT...
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| 00:21:29 |
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TO C-SPAN.ORG AND CLICK ON C-SPAN IN THE CLASSROOM. IT'S YOUR CHANCE TO USE WHAT WE TALK ABOUT AND WRITE ABOUT EACH DAY. CLICK ON C-SPAN IN THE CLASSROOM....
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| 00:22:04 |
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IN THE EIGHTH GRADE, WHO JUST STARTED THE EIGHTH GRADE THIS YEAR, AND SHE'S VERY BRIGHT, SHE'S VERY SMART, AND SHE LOVES SCHOOL. BUT MY DAUGHTER CANNOT...
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| 00:23:10 |
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CALCULATORS AND COMPUTERS, AND BACK
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| 00:23:13 |
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THEN, AS I LOOK BACK, WE WERE DEBATING THE WRONG QUESTION. PEOPLE KEPT ASKED SHOULD STUDENTS USE CALCULATORS IN THE CLASSROOM AND THEY WOULD DEBATE...
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| 00:24:11 |
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FOR TEACHERS. HERE'S PART OF THAT CONVERSATION: >> [VIDEO CLIP] THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL THING HAPPENING IN
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| 00:24:22 |
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THE FIELD -- FIELD RIGHT NOW, AND TEACHER EVALUATIONS HAVE BEEN ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE ARGUABLY NOT CONNECTED TO TEACHING AND LEARNING, SO THE BULLETIN...
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| 00:25:50 |
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THE TESTING OF STUDENTS AND SHOULD THAT BE A MEASURE FOR THE SUCCESS OR FAILURE OF A TEACHER. GUEST: HE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB OF DEFINE AGO VERY ...
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| 00:26:04 |
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EVIDENCE OF STUDENT LEARNING. THE EMPHASIS ON MATH AND READING HAVE REALLY DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED THE SYSTEM. HOST: ARE WE TEACHING STUDENTS TO...
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| 00:26:21 |
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DISTRICTS BASED ON ONE TEST SCORE THAT HAPPENS ONE
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| 00:26:24 |
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DAY DURING THE PEOPLE, OH YEAH, PEOPLE DO THAT, THEY NARROW THE CURRICULUM, THEY CHANGE PRACTICE WITHIN THE BUILDING. IT'S AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE...
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| 00:28:09 |
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WILLIAMSBERG, VIRGINIA, AND MY COMMENT IS I OWN A SMALL BUSINESS CALLED VIRGINIA
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| 00:28:15 |
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IS FOR EDUCATION. I BUILT UNIQUE MOBILE FITNESS FACILITIES BECAUSE OF THE OUTCOMES OF VIRGINIA TECH, WHEN THEY BUILT A MOBILE SCIENCE LAB, AND THE...
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| 00:29:46 |
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PRIVATIZATION OF EDUCATION. I THINK INVESTORS ARE LOOKING, THERE'S NO MORE MONEY TO BE MADE IN THE HOUSING INDUSTRY, THERE'S NOT A LOT LEFT TO MAKE...
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| 00:31:29 |
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ON DEFENSE, THAT SHOULD BE REVERSED. LET'S GO TO STEVE, SHREVEPORT, LOUISIANA, GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING STEVE AND GOOD MORNING, MR. VAN ...
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| 00:31:45 |
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SCHOOL DIPLOMA FROM OVERSEAS AND HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL WANT TO PLAY GAMES WITH THIS EDUCATION OVER HERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. MY DAUGHTER...
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| 00:32:48 |
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ALL SCHOOLS, IN ALL LOCALITIES WHAT A STUDENT SHOULD KNOW. THE COMMON CORE STANDARDS ADOPTED BY SOME 45 STATES IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT STEP AND I DON'T...
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| 00:34:03 |
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THIRD TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND YOU'RE A GOOD MODERATOR. I WANT
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| 00:34:08 |
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TO ASK MR. VAN ROEKEL IF YOU'VE READ THE BOOK THE DUMBING DOWN OF AMERICA BY MARGARET ISOBYTE AND I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU RECOMMEND IT AND FOR PARENTS...
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| 00:34:50 |
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THAT UP. AND I LIKED YOUR POINT AT THE END ABOUT WE OUGHT TO BE INVESTING TAX DOLLARS IN EDUCATION. ONE ECONOMIST EXPLAINED IT TO ME, I BELIEVE, IN...
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| 00:36:08 |
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BASICALLY STRIKING DOWN ONE OF THE LAWS PUT IN PLACE THAT WOULD CURB COLLECTIVE BARGAINING FOR PUBLIC WORKERS, SEAN SULLIVAN WRITING A WISCONSIN JUDGE...
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| 00:36:43 |
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CAN'T GO UNFETTERED, THAT SOMEONE ELSE, MIDDLE CLASS WORKERS, HAVE A VOICE IS REALLY IMPORTANT, AND ALTHOUGH IN WISCONSIN, THE RECALL FAILED WITH GOVERNOR...
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| 00:37:36 |
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WASHINGTON EXAMINER, PARENTS STRUGGLING AS COLLEGE TUITIONS EXPLODE AND AS YOU MOVE INSIDE THE PIECE THERE, IS THIS ANALYSIS LOOKING OVER THE LAST...
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| 00:38:14 |
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DOWN. ONE UNIVERSITY I READ, THEY SAID IN 1990, 25 PERCENT OF THEIR BUDGET WAS TUITION, 75 PERCENT CAME IN STATE AID. TODAY, IT'S ABSOLUTELY REVERSED....
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| 00:39:20 |
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NOW $43,000. AND UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND, AN IN-STATE TUITION WAS ABOUT $6300. IT'S NOW NEARLY $9000. AT UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA, 12 YEARS AGO, IT WAS JUST...
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| 00:39:49 |
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WANT TO BE EDUCATED YOU NEED TO PAY FOR IT. IT IS A FORMULA FOR DISASTER. AS WE GO INTO THE 21ST CENTURY, WE NEED MORE PEOPLE EDUCATED BETTER THAN EVER...
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| 00:40:14 |
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LINE. CALLER: THANK YOU FOR THE CALL. THIS IS INTERESTING INFORMATION. TWO REAL QUICK QUESTIONS. NUMBER ONE, I WAS WONDERING IF, SINCE IT'S SUCH A...
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| 00:40:22 |
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INVOLVED IN POLITICS AND THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO EVERYTHING, MY QUESTION NUMBER ONE REAL QUICK IS WHEN IS THE LAST TIME THAT HUGE TEACHERS UNION WORKED...
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| 00:41:25 |
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I REACHED OUT TO BUSINESS WAS A MONTH AGO. I HAVE A COUNCIL ADVISORY COMMITTEE JUST TO TALK ABOUT THOSE ISSUES. SECONDLY THE NATIONAL
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| 00:41:32 |
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EDUCATION ASSOCIATION WITH OVER 3 MILLION MEMBERS, OUR MEMBERSHIP IS ABOUT ONE THIRD REPUBLICAN, ONE THIRD DEMOCRAT AND ONE THIRD INDEPENDENT, SO...
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| 00:42:03 |
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GREAT TIME, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME. HOST: BY THE WAY THIS MORNING IN THE "WASHINGTON POST", THERE IS A LOOK BACK AT ANTETUM, THE BATTLE...
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| 00:42:10 |
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MANY WAYS CHANGED THE WAR AND OFTEN CALLED
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| 00:42:12 |
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THE BLOODIEST BATTLE OF THE CIVIL WAR FROM 1862, THIS MARKING THE 150TH ANNIVERSARY OF THAT CONFLICT. AND THE, OF COURSE, ANNIVERSARY OF THE CIVIL...
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