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00:00:12
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
OF SILENCE THIS MORNING AROUND 8:45, WHEN THE FIRST TOWER WAS STRUCK 11 YEARS AGO, AS WE LOOK BACK AT THE 9/11 ATTACKS. HERE WITH US AT THE TABLE IS...
00:00:57
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
SAME TIME, WE DO NOT NEED TO BE HYSTERICAL ABOUT IT, BUT WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC. IT AFFECTS OUR NATIONAL SECURITY, ECONOMIC SECURITY, AND THERE ARE A...
00:01:37
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
CALLER:GUEST: CYBER SURROUNDS EVERYTHING IN OUR COUNTRY NOW. WHEN YOU FILL UP AT THE PUMP, YOU ARE IN CYBERSPACE. IT IS NOT JUST THE COMPUTERS AT HOME.
00:01:50
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
ELECTRICITY, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND US IS CONNECTED IN SOME WAY TO CYBERSPACE. WHEN YOU ARE SO DEPENDENT ON CYBERSPACE, WE ARE ALSO VULNERABLE...
00:02:50
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
TO MANIPULATE THE STOCK MARKET, IT IS HARD TO IMAGINE THE CONSEQUENCES.
00:02:54
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
I WILL SAY, EVERY SINGLE DAY, AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WEALTH, INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY IS STOLEN FROM COMPUTER SYSTEMS IN THE UNITED STATES. FORMER DIRECTOR...
00:03:40
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
GUEST: 2 CERTAIN EXTENT, WE ARE VULNERABLE IN OTHER AREAS, AND THAT IS WHAT THE TERRORIST KEEP DOING, THEY PROBE FOR WEAK SPOTS.
00:03:51
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
THE CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO HIDE BOMBS AND LOT NUMBERS OF PEOPLE. THEY CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO TAKE AND USE CHEMICAL, BIOLOGICAL, OR IN THEIR...
00:04:43
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
THE CORE REGION, THEY HAVE BEEN DIMINISHED, THEY HAVE BEEN UNDER ASSAULT FOR A
00:04:47
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
DECADE. THEY ARE NOT LIKE ANYTHING AS THEY WERE. AT THE SAME TIME, IT IS LIKE A VIDEO GAME WHERE YOU HIT THE BIG SPIDER AND FIVE SMALL SPIDERS TAKE...
00:06:02
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
DOES PRESIDENT OBAMA DESERVE CREDIT FOR WHAT SOME OF HIS CRITICS HAVE SAID, FALLING BUSH'S STRATEGY ON FIGHTING THE WAR ON TERROR, FIGHTING A AL QAEDA?...
00:06:15
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
USED TO RUN THE WORLD HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL. I THINK IT IS A DIFFERENT THING. NOT KNOWING THIS PERSONALLY -- BUT WHEN YOU STEP INTO THE OVAL OFFICE AND...
00:06:56
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
IS THE HAQQANI NETWORK? GUEST: THIS IS AN AREA NEAR PAKISTAN AND AFGHANISTAN. THEY ARE SOME OF THE MOST DEADLY FIGHTERS. THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME...
00:07:14
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
ATTACKS AGAINST OUR TROOPS AND OTHERS IN AFGHANISTAN. BUT THEY ARE SOMEWHAT SEPARATE BUT CONNECTED, INDEED, WITH AL QAEDA. THIS WOULD HELP TO REDUCE...
00:07:51
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
OF DIPLOMATIC AND ECONOMIC PRESSURES WE CAN USE, AND THAT WE CAN ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO USE.
00:07:56
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
THE DESIGNATION IS JUST A CONFIRMATION OF THE FACTS ON THE GROUND. THE FACT IS, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF THE MOST DEADLY ATTACKS IN THE AFGHAN-...
00:08:21
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
ALL, I WANT TO SAY HAPPY ANNIVERSARY TO MY WIFE. I UNDERSTAND WE ARE USING YET STATES TROOPS ON THE
00:08:29
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BORDERS FOR SURVEILLANCE AND SUPPORT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT -- GUEST: IF I COULD ALSO TAKE A MOMENT TO WISH MY NIECES AND...
00:08:49
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
WE HAVE STRUGGLED WITH THIS ISSUE AS A COUNTRY, ESPECIALLY SINCE 9/11. WHAT IS THE CORPORATE ROLE OF THE MILITARY IN HELPING TO SAFEGUARD OUR BORDERS?...
00:10:33
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
WONDERING WHAT HOMELAND SECURITY IS DOING ABOUT WHITE SUPREMACISTS, DOMESTIC TERRORISM? TIMOTHY
00:10:40
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MCVEIGH WAS ONE OF THE WORST RIGHT-WING TERRORISTS, AND YOU GUYS NEVER MENTIONED HIM. IT IS AMAZING. GUEST: ACTUALLY, I THINK HE GETS MENTIONED A LOT,...
00:11:01
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
THAT IS, HOWEVER, MORE OF A LAW ENFORCEMENT, FBI, JUSTICE DEPARTMENT JOB TO INVESTIGATE THOSE DOMESTIC TERRORISM ACTS. HOMELAND SECURITY IS MORE RESPONSIBLE...
00:11:41
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
MOMENT OF REMEMBRANCE. WE WILL COME BACK TO OUR DISCUSSION. [BELL RINGS] [BELL RINGS] [BELL RINGS] (music) "TAPS" (music) HOST: A MOMENT OF SILENCE...
00:14:43
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
8:46 EASTERN TIME, THE TIME WHEN THE NORTH TOWER WAS STRUCK BY THE AIRPLANE 11 YEARS AGO, SEPTEMBER 11, 2001. NEARLY 2000 AMERICANS DIED THAT DAY IN...
00:15:46
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
BREAKFAST WITH SECRETARY RUMSFELD AND A FEW
00:15:48
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
OTHERS. I REMEMBER VERY WELL RECEIVING A NOTE THAT SENT AN AIRPLANE HEADED
00:15:53
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
THE WORLD TRADE CENTER. WE DECIDED THAT WE NEEDED TO GET OUT OF THERE. THERE WERE THINGS HE NEEDED TO DO. I DROVE BACK ACROSS THE BRIDGE TO THE CAPITAOL...
00:17:23
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
THEIR ANNUAL CONFERENCE. HE HAS PUT OUT A STATEMENT AS WELL ABOUT THE SEPTEMBER 11 ATTACKS, CALLING FOR A REMEMBERED TODAY. LIVE COVERAGE ON C-SPAN 3...
00:17:49
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NOW FUNDING AL-QAEDA AND SYRIA. COULD YOU COMMENT ON THAT PLEASE? GUEST: I DO NOT THINK SO. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ANY U.S. TAX DOLLARS ARE AT LEAST,
00:18:01
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
INTENTIONALLY, GOING TO FUND ANY AFFILIATE OF AL QAEDA OR TERRORISTS WHO WISH TO DO US HARM. YOU CANNOT SAY THAT NO DOLLAR THROUGH SOME OF ROUNDABOUT...
00:18:29
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
DEMOCRATIC CALLER. CALLER: I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST THANK THE CONGRESSMEMBER FOR HIS SERVICE. I AM A VETERAN MYSELF. I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO DEPLOY TO...
00:18:48
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SPECIFICALLY THIS. YOU SAID YOU DISAGREED WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS DONE ON THE TERRORIST SIDE. I WANTED YOU TO EXPAND ON THAT....
00:19:26
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
MUCH CREDIT AT POLITICIANS TRY TO TAKE FOR OUR SUCCESSES. A LOT OF THE SUCCESSES THAT WE HAVE HAD IN THE LAST 11 YEARS ARE BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU,...
00:21:07
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
SAFER AS A COUNTRY. LARGELY, BECAUSE WE ARE MORE ALERT, BETTER ORGANIZED, AND BETTER PREPARED.
00:21:14
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
CERTAINLY, HAWKEYE AT THE TOP IS NOT ANYTHING LIKE IT WAS, -- AL QAEDA AT THE TOP IS NOT ANYTHING LIKE IT WAS, BUT THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH HAVING THESE...
00:21:50
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
GUEST: I DO NOT BUY THAT. THE DAY BEFORE HE GAVE A MAJOR ADDRESS TO THE AMERICAN LEGION WHERE HE FOCUSED ON NOTHING BUT
00:21:59
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
OUR TROOPS AND NATIONAL SECURITY. HE DID MENTION THE IMPORTANCE OF TROOPS IN THE SPEECH. A SPEECH IS NOT THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN. HE FULLY UNDERSTANDS THE...
00:22:24
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
GUEST WHY WE ARE NOT EVEN TOUGHER THAN
00:22:30
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WE ARE? THESE PEOPLE ARE MURDERERS. I CANNOT UNDERSTAND PEOPLE OBJECTING TO DEALING WITH THESE PEOPLE. THAT IS MY QUESTION. GUEST: AND I UNDERSTAND, ...
00:22:53
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
SENATOR WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS IN THE PREVIOUS SEGMENT. THE CHALLENGE IS, WE HAVE TO TAKE STEPS TO KEEP AMERICANS REASONABLY SAFE WITHOUT LOSING THE...
00:24:11
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
SENATOR BEGICH BELIEVES THAT WOULD HAVE TROUBLE. WHAT ABOUT IN THE HOUSE? DO YOU HAVE ANY RESERVATIONS? GUEST: OF COURSE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FISA
00:24:26
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
AMENDMENTS ACT. WHEN IT PASSED IN 2008, THE DEMOCRATS CONTROLLED CONGRESS. IT GOT ABOUT 300 VOTES IN THE HOUSE. THE REAUTHORIZATION PAST THE INTELLIGENCE...
00:25:36
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
00:25:38
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
ARE GOING BACK TO GABRIELLE IN HOLYOKE, MASSACHUSETTS. CALLER: A SYSTEM THAT IS CONNECTED, PRIVATE BUSINESS, GOVERNMENT, SECURITY COMPANIES, WHAT WE'RE...
00:25:53
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
MONITORED. WE JUST LOST HABEAS GOING BACK CORPUS.
00:25:55
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WE HAVE THE PATRIOT ACT. AND DO NOT SAY THAT WE ARE NOT PROTECTING TERRORISTS. AIG WAS INSURING AHMADINEJAD. DO NOT SIT HERE AND AT WHAT YOU ARE TRIED...
00:26:31
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
E-MAILS, GOING AROUND. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY
00:26:36
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
TO PROJECT THE FACTS. IT'S SEE IF YOU CAN GET SOME CONFIRMATION OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD. FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE FISA AMENDMENT ACT THAT...
00:27:41
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
GUEST: BASICALLY, OTHER THAN THE SUPREME COURT, ALL OF THE OTHER FEDERAL COURTS ARE SUBJECT TO CONGRESS. BUT WE COULD DO AWAY
00:27:51
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
WITH THEM, OR WE COULD CREATE OTHERS. TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE TYPICAL CHALLENGES IN NATIONAL SECURITY WHERE WE USED CLASSIFIED EVIDENCE AND IN ADDITION,...
00:28:36
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
GUEST: THERE ARE A VARIETY OF OPINIONS ABOUT THE TSA. I JUST HAD ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES LAST NIGHT REAL TO
00:28:46
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
ME -- RAIL TO ME ABOUT THE TSA EXPERIENCE TRYING TO GET TO WASHINGTON. THEY TOOK THE BUSIEST TIME TO TRAIN NEW PEOPLE. HE ENDED UP MISSING HIS FLIGHT....
00:29:44
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
MACKEVIC THORNBERRY OF TEXAS. CALLER: THERE ARE ONLY TWO TYPES OF WAR, WHAT IS OF THE RIGHTEOUS AGAINST THE WICKED AND THE OTHER IS OF THE WICKED AND...
00:30:01
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THERE WERE TWO REASONS TO HAVE GONE TO WAR, ONE IS THE PALESTINE ATTACKS AND THE OTHER IS BECAUSE HE DECEIVED US AS A WICKED NATION. I WOULD NOT CALL...
00:30:43
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
TO A ADVANCED SOME AGENDA. I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH YOUR SECOND POINT, HOWEVER. I THINK THIS IS A STRUGGLE OF THE GOOD, AS IMPERFECT AS WE ARE, AGAINST...
00:32:00
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
MORNING THERE. REPUBLICAN LINE. CALLER: I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE MILITARY. OBAMA WANTS TO MINIMIZE TROOPS. I AM A U.S. ARMY VET AND I
00:32:10
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MADE MY DECISION IN 2001 ON SEPTEMBER 11 TO JOIN THE MILITARY WHEN I WAS 14. AND WHEN I WAS OLD ENOUGH I JOINED THE MILITARY. AND NOW I'M A DISABLED VET....
00:32:59
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
AGO TODAY TO ENTER THE MILITARY AND THEN HAVE SERVED OUR COUNTRY IN INCREDIBLE WAYS. I CONTINUE TO YOUR STORIES ABOUT THAT, AND THAT IS FURTHER EVIDENCE...
00:34:56
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
C-SPAN.ORG, MORE DETAILS THERE ABOUT OUR COVERAGE OF THAT HEARING THIS MORNING LOOKING AT THE SECURITY. WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THAT? GUEST: WE THINK ABOUT...
00:35:19
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
AIRPLANES. ACTIONMANY OF THEM HAVE LEGITIMATE VISAS. A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY ENTERED ILLEGALLY AND THEN STAYED BEYOND...
00:36:17
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
CALLER: DICK CHENEY HAS MADE MORE MONEY ON THIS AS A SOLE SERVICE CONTRACTOR. ALSO, THE BUSH FAMILY WAS
00:36:27
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IN BED WITH THE BIN LADEN FAMILY. AND IF YOU REINSTATED THE DRAFT, THEN PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF WOULD NOT BE SO QUICK TO PLAY THESE PLAYING GAMES AND NOT...
00:36:54
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
SHOULD ALL AGREE WITH THERE IS THAT WE DO NOT TO USE OUR
00:36:59
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
TROOPS OR OTHERS LIGHTLY. IT PUTS THEIR LIVES AT RISK. AND TODAY, I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THE FAMILIES WHO HAVE BLOSSOMED -- WHO NOT ONLY HAVE...
00:37:35
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
REPRESENTATIVE AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO YOU PERSONALLY ON THIS. WHY ARE WE ALLOWING THE
00:37:41
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SATELLITE OFFICES OF THE BORDER PATROL TO BE CLOSED IN TEXAS? RIGHT HERE WHERE I LIVE, I 20 GOES ACROSS. YOU CAN GET OFF THE FREEWAY ON I-20 AND GO...
00:38:39
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
THE BUSH AND OBAMA ADMINISTRATION'S TO DO MORE. I N AND -- BY AND A NUMBER OF OTHER CONGRESSMEN HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE OF TRYING TO CLOSE NINE...
00:39:54
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
GOOD MORNING, WE ARE LISTENING TO YOU.
00:39:58
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CALLER: I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO YOU ALL MORNING AND YOU ARE NOT GIVING THE PRESIDENT NO PROBLEM
00:40:04
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
AT ALL. REPUBLICANS AND GEORGE BUSH
00:40:07
CALLER, -
DROPPED THE BALL ON 9/11. OBAMA -- UNDER OBAMA THEY KILLED OSAMA BIN LADEN AND TOOK ON ALL OF THESE OTHER LEADERS. YOU ARE NOT GIVING HIM NO PROPS. GUEST:...
00:40:38
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
AND TO TAKE THE OSAMA BIN LADEN EXAMPLES OF A PLEA, I THINK THE PRESIDENT DOES DESERVE CREDIT FOR ISSUING THE ORDER TO GO. AND I THINK EVEN GREATER CREDIT...
00:41:50
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
GO AHEAD WITH ROBERT QUESTION FOR THE
00:41:53
CALLER, -
CONGRESSMAN.
00:41:55
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
CALLER: TONIGHT THEY ARE HAVING A PBS SPECIAL AND IT IS CALLED "THE QUESTION OF GOD" ON FRONTLINE. THE
00:42:04
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SUBJECT IS WHERE WAS GOD ON SEPTEMBER 11. I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON FAITH AND GOD AND EVERYTHING. AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO GO TO...
00:42:47
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
WE UNDERSTAND WHY HE ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN ANYMORE THAN WE UNDERSTAND WHY HE ALLOWED THE HOLOCAUST TO HAPPEN. BUT THROUGH TRAGEDY AND THROUGH INCREDIBLE...
00:43:21
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
CALLER: WE ARE HAVING POLITICIANS POLITICIZE INTELLIGENCE. THAT IS VERY DANGEROUS. HOST: DO YOU HAVE AN EXAMPLE, MICHAEL?
00:43:30
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WHEN CALLER: THERE IS A REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRAT TALKING ABOUT --
00:43:36
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
HOST: -- CALLER: WHETHER IT IS A REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT TALKING ABOUT ISSUES THAT EXPLOIT. AND FOR EXAMPLE, LOOK AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THIRD WORLD...
00:44:19
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
THAT I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE POINT, BUT THERE IS ROBUST OVERSIGHT IN CONGRESS OF THE INTELLIGENCE ORGANIZATIONS.
00:44:26
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
AND NOT JUST THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE, BUT BE ALL SET -- BUT ALSO THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE AND OTHERS. WE ARE UNIQUE IN THE WORLD IN HAVING THIS...
00:44:56
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
IT JEOPARDIZE AS THE FIELD WORK? GUEST: YES, I THINK IT DOES AND IT ADDS TO A CULTURE OF TALKING ABOUT THEIR TACTICS, WHAT THEY DO, AND THAT IS WHAT...
00:45:06
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
DISTURBING. HOST: HAVE YOU READ THE BOOK? GUEST: I HAVE NOT. I SAW THE INTERVIEW ON TELEVISION WITH THAT NAVY SEAL. AND I THINK HE DID A GOOD
00:45:15
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
JOB.
00:45:17
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
AND I KNOW OTHER SEALS. IN GENERAL, WHETHER IT IS COMING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE OR FROM INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY, THERE IS WAY TOO MUCH TALK...
00:45:46
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
STILL GETTING INTELLIGENCE FROM IT? GUEST: AS HE INDICATED, THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MATERIAL. I THINK THE BULK OF IT HAS BEEN RECEIVED. AS TIME...
00:45:57
Thornberry, William "Mac" McClellan - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
YOU CAPTURE BECOMES LESS RELEVANT YEARS DOWN ROAD. BUT NO QUESTION IT WAS A TREMENDOUS BENEFIT. HOST: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, CONGRESSMAN. WE WILL ROUND...
00:46:18
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
ABOUT THE STATE OF COUNTER-TERRORISM. BUT FIRST, A NEWS UPDATE FROM C- SPAN RADIO. >> WITH THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE SEPTEMBER 11 ATTACKS THE FOCUS TODAY,...
00:46:32
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THE U.S. TRADE DEFICIT SLOWLY IN JULY AS AT A FASTER PACE THAN IMPORTS. THE DEFICIT WIDENED TO $42 BILLION. THAT IS TWO TENTHS OF A PERCENT HIGHER...

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