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HOST: SOME POLITICAL STRATEGISTS HAVE ARGUED MITT
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ROMNEY'S BEST PATH TO VICTORY ALLIES IN
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
FOCUSING ON THE ECONOMY AND JOBS. JEFFREY BELL JOINS US TO LAY OUT HIS BELIEF FOR WHY AMERICA NEEDS SOCIAL CONSERVATISM TO PLAY A ROLE IN THE DEBATES....
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
BY LETTING THEM HAVE A CLEAR ESTIMATION OF THE CHOICES INVOLVED IN AN ELECTION. IN TIMES OF POLARIZATION, AND VOTERS ARE WELL AWARE OF WHAT THE STAKES...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
A -- ECONOMIC CONSERVATISM MUST END THE IDEA THAT THEY ARE FUNDAMENTALLY UNRELATED ROME. GUEST: WE HAVE SEEN COUNTRIES WHERE THE SOCIAL REVOLUTION HAD...
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
THOSE COUNTRIES SEEM TO BE GOING OUT OF EXISTENCE. THE FERTILITY RATE FOR WOMEN IS AS LOW AS 1.0. THAT MEANS PEOPLE BORN IN THOSE COUNTRIES ARE NOT REPLICATING...
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OF THE FIRST FEW SENTENCES OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. GUEST: IF YOU BELIEVE LITERALLY THE DECLARATION SAYS ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL AND THAT...
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, IF YOU BELIEVE THOSE RIGHTS COME FROM GOD AND CANNOT BE TAKEN AWAY BY GOVERNMENT, ODDS ARE YOU ARE A SOCIAL...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
ELECTION? GUEST: I HAD AN INTERVIEW FIVE OR SIX MONTHS AGO WITH "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL. " HE WAS INTERVIEWING ME BECAUSE RICK SANTORUM WAS DOING WELL...
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
THE WIDE ASSUMPTION WAS SOCIAL ISSUES CAN BE VERY IMPORTANT IN REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES. WHEN YOU GET INTO THE GENERAL ELECTION THEY DO NOT MATTER. BUT...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
IN THE PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE-PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE.
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
THEY WILL BE IN ADVERTISING. MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT GOVERNOR ROMNEY WOULD NOT DO ADVERTISING RELATED TO A SOCIAL ISSUE, BUT HE HAS DONE ONE. THAT CONCERNS...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
GUEST: GOVERNOR ROMNEY COVERED HIS FACE ON THAT. HE GAVE A DEBATE IN SEPTEMBER. HE GAVE ONE OF THE BEST EXPLANATIONS I HAVE
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
HEARD ABOUT WHY THE SAME-SEX MARRIAGE ISSUE WILL NOT WIND UP AS A STATE-BY- STATE ISSUE AND WHY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A NATIONAL OUTCOME ONE WAY OR THE OTHER....
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
I HAVE A TWITTER QUESTION FOR YOU FROM THE URBAN POLITICO. CAN SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES MARKET THEMSELVES SUCCESSFULLY? GUEST: I THINK SO IF THEY KEEP IT...
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
BUILT SHOULD BE LEGAL. BUT IT IS AN INVASION OF RELIGIOUS RIGHTS, WHAT THE HHS IS TELLING THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND OTHERS WHO DISAGREE WITH CONTRACEPTION....
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
MY CALL. I THINK THE BEST IS RIGHT. -- I THINK THE GUEST IS RIGHT.
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SO OFTEN, -- I AM SORRY. I NEEDED TO TURN MY TV OFF. WE HAVE THE ISSUES. WHEN THEY ARE CLEAR, EVERYONE GETS TO MAKE THE CHOICE THEY WANT, WHETHER YOU...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
ROOTS OF THE MOVEMENT. GUEST: IT GOES BACK TO THE REACTION PEOPLE HAD TO THE 1960'S, THE TREMENDOUS UPHEAVALS THAT TOOK PLACE IN THE 1960'S
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
AND CULMINATED IN 1968. A BIG MOMENT CAME DURING THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION 44 YEARS AGO, 1968 IN CHICAGO, WHEN THE TELEVISION NETWORKS CUT AWAY...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
EXPLAIN THE. GUEST: TWO VIEWS CAME OUT OF THE ENLIGHTENMENT. ONE WAS THE LEFT ENLIGHTENMENT AS WE KNOW IT TODAY.
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
THE SECOND IS THE CONSERVATIVE ENLIGHTENMENT WHICH HAD GREAT INFLUENCE IN BRITAIN AND AMERICA AND EUROPE. THAT IS THE ONE I JUST DESCRIBED, WHICH IS...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
CALLER: HOW IS EVERYBODY? HOST: DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
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CALLER: I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS STUFF. THIS IS REALLY DEEP.
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
HOST: MR.
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BELL, TALK ABOUT YOUR PAST WORK. YOU WORKED FOR REAGAN, NIXON, AND RAN FOR CONGRESS. GUEST: I RAN FOR THE
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
SENATE IN THE STATE OF THE JERSEY. I RAN ON THE TAX CUT BEFORE IT HAD BECOME THE REAGAN TAX
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
CUT IN 1978. I SHOULD NOT ADMIT HOW LONG AGO THAT WAS. IRAN IN THE PRIMARIES ON THE SAME DAY PROPOSITION 13 WAS PASSING IN CALIFORNIA. WHEN I DEFEATED...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
AMONG JOURNALISTIC AND POLITICAL ELITES WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS. THAT IS ONE REASON WHY WROTE THE BOOK. IT
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
SEEMED TO BE SOMETHING EVERYONE KNOWS BUT NEVER COMES TRUE. HOST: A QUESTION FROM MAX. POLARIZATION TAKES ADVANTAGE OF IGNORANT VOTERS, JUST ASK KARL
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
ROVE. YOUR RESPONSE? GUEST: I DO NOT AGREE. IT IS TRUE SOCIAL LIBERALISM SOMETIMES CORRESPONDS TO GETTING A DOCTORATE, BUT
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
I THINK SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES HAVE A FULL VISION OF WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN. THE INCREASE IN FLEET. TODAY INCREASINGLY HAVE A VIEW OF ECONOMIC POLICY AND SOCIAL...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
CALLER: YOUR GUEST IS MAKING AN EXCELLENT CASE FOR POLARIZATION. HIS DEMONSTRATING WHY PEOPLE SHOULD
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VOTE FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA -- HE IS DEMONSTRATING WHY PEOPLE SHOULD VOTE FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA. THE FIRST THING HE TRIES TO DO IS SCARE PEOPLE BY TELLING...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
GUEST: ON OVER-POPULATION, I THINK THAT IS A MYTH. THE BIG PROBLEM TODAY IS UNDER- POPULATION, DECLINING FEMALE
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
FERTILITY IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD. IT IS ALSO HAPPENING IN THE ISLAMIC WORLD AND IN EAST ASIA. THE ONE-CHILD POLICY IN CHINA IS FROM THE LEFT. IT IS...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
CALLER: WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, I WAS TAUGHT TO BE A REPUBLICAN BECAUSE OF FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.
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DURING THE EIGHT YEARS OF BUSH WHO CAME IN WITH A SURPLUS AND DECIDED TO TAKE IT BECAUSE IT WAS THE PEOPLE'S MONEY, POLARIZING AMERICA AND DECIDING THE...
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
GUEST: IT DID NOT SELLING SOMEBODY WHO VOTED FOR RONALD REAGAN. --
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
IT DID NOT SOUND LIKE SOMEBODY WHO VOTED FOR RONALD
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
REAGAN. IT WAS A SERIES OF TALKING POINTS. OUT BY THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN. I CANNOT THINK OF ANYTHING TO SAY. HOST: THIS POLITICO STORY TALKS ABOUT A POLL...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
TRUST OBAMA OVER MITT ROMNEY ON SOCIAL ISSUES. 52% TO 36%, ACCORDING TO AN AP POLL FROM JUNE. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK REPUBLICANS WANT TO HAVE THE SOCIAL...
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
PEOPLE WERE DIGESTING THE FACT OBAMA HAD ENDORSED SAME-SEX MARRIAGE. THEY ASKED VOTERS IF HIS SUPPORT OF SAME-SEX MARRIAGE MAKES YOU MORE OR LESS LIKELY...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
LEADERS OF THE GROUP OF NORTH CAROLINA REPUBLICAN'S IS BUSY TRYING TO RAMP UP INCURRED -- SUPPORT FOR MITT ROMNEY. HE SAYS SOCIAL ISSUES ARE FAR DOWN...
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
FORE, AND THE BALKANS HAVE ONE TWO OF THE LAST SIX VICTORIES THAT WAY. THE REAGAN REALIGNMENT BETWEEN 1976 AND 1984, SOCIAL ISSUES WERE VERY PROMINENT...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT. THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED.
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
FOR THEM, IS A MATTER OF WISHFUL THINKING. THEY DO NOT WANT TO ENGAGE IN WHAT IT IS NOT TRUE. HOST: STEVE ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE FROM TEXAS, YOU ARE ON...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
CALLER: I DID NOT VOTE FOR REAGAN. I AM 51. I HAVE BEEN VOTING SINCE 1979.
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I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE THING ABOUT SOCIAL ISSUES. I FOLLOW POLITICS -- I HAVE FOLLOWED POLITICS MY ENTIRE LIFE. THE REPUBLICANS HAVE TRIED TO CUT MEDICARE,...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
48, THOMAS DOOLEY WAS THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT. IN THOSE ELECTIONS, THE MORE AFFLUENT YOU WERE,
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
THE MORE WEALTH YOU HAD, THE MORE LIKELY YOU WERE TO VOTE FOR HIM. HE CARRIED THE NORTHEAST, THE MOST AFFLUENT PART OF THE COUNTRY IN. EVERYTHING WAS...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
OF POLARIZATION AND WHETHER CONGRESS CAN GET ANYTHING DONE? GUEST: THAT IS TRUE IN
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
A SENSE. I HAVE HAD CERTAIN EXPERIENCES WORKING WITH CONGRESS -- I WORKED ON THE TAX
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
REFORM ACT OF 1986. THE FINAL VOTE TO BRING THE TOP RATE FROM 15 TO 27% IN THE SENATE WAS 97 TO 3. I WAS WORKING WITH BILL BRADLEY, THE MAN WHO DEFEATED...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
HE HAS HELPED TO
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
UNITE AND ENERGIZE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND IT IS ALSO A DECISION BY GOVERNOR ROMNEY TO HAVE A REFERENDUM ON THE DEFICIT AND ENTITLEMENT REFORM, AS...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
TO WONDER WHY THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY,
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WHEN THE FIRST DATE THAT THEY VOTED ON, AS SOON AS IT WAS OVER, THEY SAID MITT ROMNEY HAD ONE AND THEN TWO WEEKS LATER, THEY SAID RICK SANTORUM WON....
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GUEST: THAT WAS ONE OF THE WORST BREAKS AND PELLET DENTAL --
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
PRESIDENTIAL
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
CAUCUSES THAT THERE WAS NO BENEFIT FROM THE WIND. ROMNEY ONE IN THE INITIAL COUNT AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SEEM TO LIKE IT THAT WAY AND EVEN WHEN THE...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
VERY INTERESTING SHOW. I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO
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GIVE YOUR COMMENTS ON. NUMBER ONE, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ARE MAKING THE DEFENSE THAT THEY CLAIM TO BE FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE...
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
AN ISSUE UNLESS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WANTED IT TO. I THINK THEY WERE VERY AWARE OF THE FACT THAT IT WAS NOT GOING TO BE WELCOMED AND THE CATHOLIC...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
HIS SECOND BOOK PUBLISHED IN 1992. HE GOT HIS B.A. FROM COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY. HE IS A VETERAN OF U.S. ARMY IN VIETNAM. WE WILL GO NOW TO JAN FROM DALLAS,...
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PEOPLE WHO HANDLE SNAKES HUNT. YOU ARE EQUIVALENT TO EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY RIGHT NOW. I DO NOT THINK ROMNEY WILL BE ABLE...
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HOST: YOU THINK IT WILL STICK TO
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THE ECONOMY AND JOBS? CALLER: >> HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PLAY GOD BECAUSE OF
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
HIS MORMON IS SOME. WHAT WE'RE
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CALLER, -
SEEING HERE IS THE SAME THING WE HAD WITH THE CRAZY OLD LADY THAT JOHN MCCAIN HAD. HE IS PUTTING THINGS WERE ANY QUESTION HE GIVES COMES DOWN TO DEMOCRATS...
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
OBAMA AND THOMAS DOOLEY DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION. THE ELECTION IN 1940 WAS BEFORE THE TIME SOCIAL ISSUES CAME TO THE FLOOR. THEY WERE...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
CHOICE? DO YOU
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CALLER, -
THINK ROMNEY SHOULD RELEASE HIS TAX RECORDS? HOST: GUESTGUEST: I BELIEVE HOMOSEXUALITY IS SOMETIMES A CHOICE AND SOMETIMES NOT. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
THAT A TENDENCY SOMEONE HAS FOUR REASONS OFTEN BEYOND THEIR CONTROL IS NOT NECESSARILY SINFUL. I JUST THINK THAT THE ISSUE OF MARRIAGE IS NOT REALLY...
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| 00:40:06 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT HAVING --
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HAVING TO DO WITH POLITICS. WE -- I TRIED TO BE MORE OR LESS OPEN-MINDED ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS ON BOTH SIDES. I DO NOT REALLY THINK THAT THE ROMNEY CAMPAIGN...
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
AGAINST OBAMA, I WOULD ASK HOW YOU THINK OBAMA WON THE ELECTION WITH 53%, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE TOP FOUR OR FIVE DEMOCRATIC POPULAR VOTES OF ALL TIME?...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
MY QUESTION --
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CALLER, -
I HAVE READ SOME OF YOUR WRITING AND I WANTED TO ASK IF IT IS TRUE THAT THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE ONLY APPLIES TO MEN AND NOW WOMEN? IS THAT WHY...
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
COURSE DIFFERENT RIGHTS, AT DIFFERENT TIMES IN SOCIETY. BLACKS GOT THE RIGHT TO VOTE BEFORE WOMEN DID. YOU CAN SAY THAT IS UNFORTUNATE OR FORTUNATE OR...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
IS IT A RIVAL OF THE SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT? GUEST: A LOT OF PEOPLE SAW IT THAT WAY ABOUT MY OWN FEELING IS IT IS NOT PART OF THE SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE...
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
BECAUSE THE THING THEY SHARE IS GETTING BACK TO THE BASICS OF OUR FOUNDING. ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. IT IS INTERESTING THAT PAUL RYAN, WHO IS WIDELY...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
ARE YOU THERE? WE WILL GO DOWN TO TENNESSEE. LLOYD IS ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: YES, I WAS CALLING ABOUT ALL MEN BEING CREATED EQUAL....
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YOU GET THE GOVERNMENT SIDING WITH PEOPLE WHO DO AWAY WITH RELIGION. LET THEM TAKE SONGS WITH GOD, TAKE THE BIBLE OUT OF SCHOOLS, THEY HAVE TO DO AWAY...
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
BEEN IS A SPIRITUAL EQUALITY.
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Bell, Jeffrey - Consultant
THESE MEN WOMEN HAVE EQUAL STANDING BECAUSE THEY WERE A PART OF GOD'S CREATION AND THEY HAVE ANY QUALITY THAT IS IN A THAT CANNOT BE TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM....
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McArdle, John - Guest Host
CASE FOR POLARIZED POLITICS. >> UP NEXT, KARIM SADJADPOUR -- C-SPAN3 OF NEXT, KARIM SADJADPOUR WILL JOIN US. WE WANT
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TO SHOW YOU A SHOT FROM OUTSIDE THE TAMPA BAY TIMES FORUM WHERE THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION WILL BEGIN NEXT WEEK. THAT CONVENTION ARE AROUND...
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