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Ervin, Clark Kent - Director
COST OF LIVES AND TREASURE. WE'RE LOOKING BACK AT IRAQ WAR. WE HAVE ASSEMBLED A SUPERB PANEL TO LOOK BACK AND CONSIDER THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE IRAQ WAR....
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Dozier, Kimberly - Correspondent
GROUP OF PEOPLE HERE. THREE OF THEM WERE LAST MINUTE ADDITIONS, THE AMBASSADORS HAVE ALL HAD TO DROP OUT OF LAST MINUTE TO ENGAGEMENTS. I WILL INTRODUCE...
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Cambone, Stephen A. - Undersecretary
SOURCE COMING OUT OF IRAQ WHO HAD BEEN DEBRIEFED SOME TIME PRIOR TO THE OUTBREAK OF THE WAR. HE CLAIMS HE HAD FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF SOME PROGRAMS IN...
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Dozier, Kimberly - Correspondent
OF FACILITY -- IT LOOKED LIKE A FACILITY FROM THE AIR. WAS IT MEANT TO SCARE THE REGIONAL COUNTRIES? >> I DO NOT KNOW. CHARLIE DID A SECOND LOOK AT THE...
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Cambone, Stephen A. - Undersecretary
THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN A REAL PROGRAM HAD THE INTENDED IT TO BE A REAL PROGRAM. THEY WERE NOT THERE. SOME OF YOU REMEMBER THE ROCKS SURVEY GROUP. I...
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Hill, Christopher R. - Assistant Secretary
CENSERS TURNED UP IN THE WAKE OF 9/11. WE LISTENED TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. THE QUESTION WAS HOW TO INTERPRET THE THINGS YOU'RE LISTENING TO. I...
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Dozier, Kimberly - Correspondent
DRESSED IN THAT ARGUMENT. PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THAT DECISION CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. -- I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT ARGUMENT. PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THAT DISCUSSION...
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Hill, Christopher R. - Assistant Secretary
IN IRAQ AND OUR POLICIES GO FORTH -- RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A DICEY SITUATION. SUNNI ARAB STATES WANT TO REINSTATE SUNNI RULE. THIS IS REALLY THE ISSUE....
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Dozier, Kimberly - Correspondent
PLAAN -- DOES THE U.S. JUST NOT KNOW HOW TO OCCUPY A PLACE? >> IT TURNED TO BE A THE TORIES AND NOT STATE TO CAUSE A REVAMPING
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Negroponte, John D. - Ambassador
AND REFORM OF THE INTELLIGENCE -- IT TURNED OUT TO BE A NOTORIOUS ENOUGH STATE TO CAUSE A REVAMPING A REFORM OF OUR INTELLIGENCE. YOU TAKE THE INTELLIGENCE...
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Cambone, Stephen A. - Undersecretary
WELL-KNOWN. THE PLAN DID CALL FOR ANOTHER DIVISION TO COME IN THROUGH TURKEY FROM THE NORTH AND TO COME DOWN TO BAGHDAD. THAT DIVISION DID NOT COME IN...
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Dozier, Kimberly - Correspondent
YOU ALL, ESPECIALLY THREE OF YOU SENT REPORTS BACK TO D.C. SEVERAL TIMES, WHAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE WHEN IT WILL PEOPLE IN THE PENTAGON, WE ARE SEEING AN...
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Jeffrey, James - Ambassador
WE WERE FACED WITH A LOT OF VIOLENCE AND WE DID NOT HAVE CONTROL OF THE FAMOUS AIRPORT AND THE EMBASSY IN THE GREEN ZONE. WE WERE NOT FOCUSED ON WHAT...
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Hill, Christopher R. - Assistant Secretary
IT WAS A SUNNI INSURGENCY. WHY WAS IT A SUNNI INSURGENCY? IT WAS SORT OF WE WERE ACCEPTING THE NOTION OF DEMOCRACY WITH SHIIA RULE. THE INSTITUTION WAS...
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Jeffrey, James - Ambassador
80% WAS NON-SUNNI. THESE GUYS WOULD BE OUT OF POWER. IT WAS LIKELY THEY WOULD REACT VIOLENTLY. >> THIS IS A A SORT OF AN AGONIZING DISCUSSION. LET ME...
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Negroponte, John D. - Ambassador
A NEW IRAQI GOVERNMENT, WE FOUND -- THE SAID WE HAD TO GO THROUGH A ONE-YEAR OCCUPATION, BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN BUILDING UP THEIR POLICE AND ARMED FORCES,...
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Dozier, Kimberly - Correspondent
WHOSE CAREERS SUFFERED BECAUSE THEY STOOD UP AND SAID BEFORE IT WAS ACCEPTABLE TO SAY, THERE IS AN INSURGENCY BUILDING. I HAVE TO ASK, WHAT WAS HAPPENING...
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Cambone, Stephen A. - Undersecretary
WHICH PEOPLE SAID THE CAREER SUFFERED BECAUSE THEY SAID SO. AS I RECALL, THE CIRCUMSTANCES AT THE TIME WERE MARCH-SEPTEMBER OF 2003, THERE WAS A GOOD...
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Dozier, Kimberly - Correspondent
SUNNI AND SHIITE DISPUTES. THE TWO WERE FIGHTING OVER GOVERNMENT. WE WERE TRYING TO ARBITRATE THAT VERY WELL. NONE OF THE BOMBING OF THE SHIITE SHRINE....
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Jeffrey, James - Ambassador
WE WERE WELL OVER 150,000 TROOPS. THAT IS NOT TOO FAR DOWN FOR MORE WE WERE. DID THE TROOPS HAVE BEEN PERMISSION TO GO OUT AND SECURE THE POPULATION....
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Negroponte, John D. - Ambassador
AS THE DESPAIR OR THE SENSE OF DESPAIR THAT WAS FELT IN WASHINGTON FROM THE PRESIDENT AND ON DOWN IN TERMS OF THIS VIOLENCE. THE WHOLE PROJECT, THE WHOLE...
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Hill, Christopher R. - Assistant Secretary
DID NOT UNDERSTAND. THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WAS TREATED TO A LOT OF STATEMENTS. THIS IS NOT ABOUT PARTY DEAD ENDERS. THIS WAS EIGHTH SECRETARY AND A PROBLEM....
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Jeffrey, James - Ambassador
SUNNI ONE. SOME OF IT WAS SUPPORTED AT VARIOUS TIMES BY IRAN BUT MUCH OF IT WAS BASICALLY BUBBLING UP FROM BELOW. WHENEVER YOU GO INTO A COUNTRY, REGARDLESS...
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Dozier, Kimberly - Correspondent
ACTIONS AGAINST AL QAEDA AND A LOT OF ACTORS GOT TAKEN OFF THE STAGE AND THEN THE SURGE CAME IN. DO YOU THINK IT WORKED, OR WAS IT THE SPECIAL OPERATIONS...
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Cambone, Stephen A. - Undersecretary
THE WORK THAT WAS DONE BY GENERAL CASEY AND OTHERS DURING THAT YEAR WAS SIGNIFICANT. THE ARAB AWAKENING WAS TERRIBLY IMPORTANT. THAT HAD BEEN UNDERWAY...
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Hill, Christopher R. - Assistant Secretary
HAVE TO THIS AGGREGATED. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WHEN WE ARE IN SOME MESSY SITUATION WE SAY WE NEED A SURGE LIKE IT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL FIX EVERY...
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Negroponte, John D. - Ambassador
POLITICAL ENTITY, BOTH THROUGH BUILDING UP ITS SECURITY FORCES AND HAVING GONE THROUGH A PROCESS OF A COUPLE OF ELECTIONS AND THE PRIME MINISTER HINTS...
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Negroponte, John D. - Ambassador
WHEN I WAS DEPUTY SECRETARY OF STATE. IDEALLY, IN VIETNAM, AFGHANISTAN, IN IRAQ, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A RESIDUAL FORCE IN THE COUNTRY. KIND OF OBVIOUS...
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Dozier, Kimberly - Correspondent
PART OF THE DEAL WAS WE WOULD WITHDRAW OUR TROOPS AND IN THE CONTEXT OF 2008, IT WAS A
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Jeffrey, James - Ambassador
BIG ISSUE. THE IRAQIS WANTED TO SEE THEIR SOVEREIGNTY MANIFEST IN THE STREETS AND IN THE BASEMENTS. WHAT CHANGED BETWEEN 2008 AND 2011, FIRST OF ALL,...
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Dozier, Kimberly - Correspondent
ONE OF THE LARGEST RANCHES -- BRANCHES, LARGE AND DANGEROUS. OVER THE WEEKEND AL QAEDA TALK ABOUT REVIVING THE ORGANIZATION TO FULL STRENGTH IN IRAQ....
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Jeffrey, James - Ambassador
DROPPED TO A PATTERN THAT WAS MANIFEST WHEN I ARRIVED IN AUGUST 2010. THERE WAS A WORLD SERIES A -- OF ATTACKS AROUND THE COUNTRY RIGHT AFTER I ARRIVED....
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Hill, Christopher R. - Assistant Secretary
PROBABLY SOME COUNTRIES THAT WERE MORE HELPFUL IN TERMS OF COMBATING FLOWS PROBABLY HAVE OTHER PRIORITIES RIGHT NOW. TO SOME EXTENT IT IS ONE OF THOSE...
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Cambone, Stephen A. - Undersecretary
TIME. THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO SURVIVED. OTHERS HAVE INFILTRATED BACK THEN. IS IT POSSIBLE NOW FOR RECRUITS TO BE DRAWN FROM THAT POPULATION TO OTHER PLACES?...
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Dozier, Kimberly - Correspondent
LOST 17 OTHER ACTORS. WHAT DID WE LEARN? WHO WANTS TO START? THEY WERE MUCH MORE TALKATIVE EARLIER TODAY. >> FIRST OF ALL, WE LEARNED THAT WE CAN SUCCEED....
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Jeffrey, James - Ambassador
IT IS VERY PRECARIOUS. EVERY MORNING, THE FIRST THING I'D DO IS CLICK ON THE IRAQ NEWS TO SEE IF I HAVE TO MODIFY WHAT I SAY BECAUSE IT IS STILL PRECARIOUS....
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Hill, Christopher R. - Assistant Secretary
THESHIA WORLD MEETS THE SUNNI WORLD. I CANNOT THINK OF A TOUGHER PLACE. DON'T JUST DO IT ON ADRENALINE. DO YOUR HOMEWORK. I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD HAVE...
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Negroponte, John D. - Ambassador
IT IS ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL DIPLOMATIC ELEMENTS IN THE WHOLE SITUATION. WHEN WE WHEN THEN, IRAQ WAS REALLY ISOLATED FROM ITS ARAB NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT...
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| 00:56:13 |
Cambone, Stephen A. - Undersecretary
THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WILL HISTORICALLY PROVED TO BE ONE OF THE GREAT HISTORIC DECISIONS OF THE FIRST HALF OF THE 21ST CENTURY, IF NOT THE GREATEST....
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Q & A, -
FRONT AND CENTER. I WAS GIVING YOU THE CHALLENGE TO GET THE MICROPHONE THERE. >> UNTIL LAST ASK THIS QUESTION, STEVE WAS A FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE. IF EACH...
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Cambone, Stephen A. - Undersecretary
HISTORY -- I THINK MY ANSWER COMES FROM WHAT I SAID A MOMENT AGO. I THINK WE WOULD HAVE SEEN THE PLACE STILL LOCKED IN A STASIS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN...
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Jeffrey, James - Ambassador
SCENARIO, DESPITE US GOING IN AND ALLOWS THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALL OF THE PROBLEMS. THEY DID NOT GET MUCH ELECTRICITY OR ANY OTHER SERVICES BEFORE THEN....
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Hill, Christopher R. - Assistant Secretary
IN 2003. IT STARTED A DECADE BEFORE. SOME PEOPLE ARGUE IT ALREADY HAS 1 FOOT OUT THE DOOR. IT SAID ON HUSSAIN WAS LEFT IN CHARGE IT WOULD HAVE HAD TWO...
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Hill, Christopher R. - Assistant Secretary
A POINT OF VIEW OF THE UNITED STATES THAT IS A DIFFERENT QUESTIONS. >> DO YOU THINK IT IS WORTH IT? >> I THINK I WILL KEEP THAT UP. I AM NOT INTERESTED...
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| 01:02:29 |
Negroponte, John D. - Ambassador
AHEAD. IF THIS COUNTRY STARTS PRODUCING 6 MILLION 7 MILLION BARRELS OF OIL A DAY AND IT HAS A MORE WESTERN ORIENTATION THAN THEY USED TO HAVE, BEFORE...
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| 01:03:24 |
Cambone, Stephen A. - Undersecretary
TO KNOW THE OUTCOME BEFORE YOU START. WHEN YOU SAY KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW NOW, WOULD YOU DO NOW WHAT YOU DID THEN -- IT BEGINS TO SOB -- IT BEGINS TO...
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| 01:04:27 |
Jeffrey, James - Ambassador
RID OF ONE POLITICAL SYSTEM AND INTRODUCE A NEW ONE. I DO NOT THINK WE HAD A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THE NEW ONE WAS. WE WERE INVENTING THAT AS WE WENT ALONG....
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Negroponte, John D. - Ambassador
OF QUESTIONS OF HISTORY. PATIENCE, BE CAREFUL -- LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP. NATION-BUILDING IS NOT EASY TO DO. FOR ME THE BIGGEST LESSON IN THAT CATEGORY...
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| 01:06:26 |
Cambone, Stephen A. - Undersecretary
THE DESIRE WAS TO RELY MORE ON LOCAL CAPACITY. TO BUILD UP THE FORCE SOONER. NOT TO ENGAGE AN OCCUPATION. SOME OF YOU HEARD THE SECRETARY'S SPEECH ABOUT...
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| 01:10:35 |
Cambone, Stephen A. - Undersecretary
PLAN FOR AFTER THE COMBAT OPERATION. MY SENSE IS, IT IS NOT THAT THERE WAS NOT A PLAN, I AM NOT SURE THE PLANS CONSOLIDATED IN A WAY THAT THEY MIGHT...
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| 01:13:41 |
Hill, Christopher R. - Assistant Secretary
IN THE UNITED STATES WE DID NOT MARCH ON BAGHDAD BECAUSE THE COALITION WOULD HAVE BROKEN UP. WE ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD THAT THE REASON THE COALITION WOULD...
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| 01:15:15 |
Jeffrey, James - Ambassador
THIS WILL BE A GAME CHANGER. THE QUESTION I GOT WAS THAT THE DECISION IN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION WAS LARGELY, IF WE SUCCEED IN A ROCK BAND CREATING...
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| 01:16:56 |
Cambone, Stephen A. - Undersecretary
OF PEOPLE IF THEY WERE ON THE STREET WOULD HAVE BEEN PICKED UP AND PUT INTO DETENTION. THERE WERE ALL SITTING THERE TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER. THEY KNEW...
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| 01:19:00 |
Negroponte, John D. - Ambassador
YOU FOR TAKING PART IN THIS PANEL. YOU ANSWERED SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS. [APPLAUSE] WE HAVE ALL LOST FRIENDS IN IRAQ. I THINK ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS...
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Dozier, Kimberly - Correspondent
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