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LIBRARY. HOST: THE COVER OF "TIME" MAGAZINE. INSIDE IS THIS PICTURE.
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Slen, Peter - Host
MARK THOMPSON, WHO WAS IAN MORRISON? GUEST: A 2007 WEST POINT GRADUATE. A HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL YOUNG MAN IN HIGH SCHOOL, AND THEN IN HOT --
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
COLLEGE AT WEST POINT. BUT IT -- THE DAY HE GRADUATED FROM WEST POINT, VICE-PRESIDENT CHENEY TOLD HIM AND HIS CLASSMATES, YOU WILL HAVE EVERYTHING YOU...
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Slen, Peter - Host
EDITORS AND GENERALS ARE FOREVER ASKING, HOW DO WE FIX THIS?
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
IT IS NOT A "THIS" BUT A BUNCH OF THIS'S. THERE IS NO ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION. SOME THINGS AFFECT MORE PEOPLE THAN OTHERS. SOME FOLKS THAT I HAVE...
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Slen, Peter - Host
DIED SINCE THAT AFGHAN CAMPAIGN BEGAN. CORRECT? GUEST: IN THE ARMY, ABOUT 1100 IN COMBAT. SUICIDE, ABOUT 1200.
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
HOST: WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT 1200, IN YOUR ARTICLE, YOU WRITE, "COMBAT TRAUMA CANNOT ALONE ACCOUNT FOR THE TREND.
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Slen, Peter - Host
NEARLY 20% OF THE SUICIDES WERE AMONG TROOPS THAT NEVER DEPLOYED. 43% HAD ONLY DEPLOYED ONCE. YOU HAVE GOT THOSE STATS. HOW DO YOU PUT THE WHY'S TOGETHER?...
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
THAT IS TRUE ACROSS SOCIETY. WHEN DRIVE THE ARMY CRAZY IS HEARING THE FOLLOWING. SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN KEEPING RECORDS, STARTING IN THE EARLY 1980'S, THE...
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Slen, Peter - Host
SPEAK WITH MARK THOMPSON -- WE HAVE SET ASIDE A THIRD LINE ON THIS PROGRAM FOR ACTIVE DUTY IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN MILITARY. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU AND...
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
WARS ARE BEING FOUGHT IN DIFFERENT WAYS THAN ANY NATION HAS EVER FOUGHT A WAR. BOTH OF THESE WORDS HAVE BEEN EXTENDED. AFGHANISTAN IS NOW IN ITS 11TH...
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YEAR. IT IS A LOT OF MONEY, BUT BECAUSE THERE IS NO SILVER BULLET TO SOLVING THE
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
PROBLEM OF MENTAL HEALTH MALADIES, YOU CANNOT SAY, LET'S INCREASE THIS SLICE OF THE FUNDING AND THE PROBLEM WILL BE REDUCED. THEY THROW MONEY AT THE PROBLEM,...
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Slen, Peter - Host
FROM AN ARMY FAMILY, AS DID IAN MORRISON, WHOSE FATHER WAS A MARINE.
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
MIKE STARTED AS A BOMB SQUAD GRUNT, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT HIS FATHER HAD DONE. HE BECAME AN ENLISTED SOLDIER. AFTER EIGHT YEARS OF THAT HE SAID I WANT...
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Slen, Peter - Host
IAN MORRISON, THE
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
LAST TIME HE RETURNED HOME FOR CHRISTMAS, HIS WIFE GOT THE SENSE FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT SOMETHING WAS NOT RIGHT. MIKE'S WIFE, LESLEY, THEY HAD BEEN...
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Slen, Peter - Host
HIS DAUGHTER, WHO WAS LIVING IN MASSACHUSETTS WITH THEIR MOTHER. THEY HAVE
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
SORT OF SEPARATED ON A TEST BASIS. MIKE TOLD HIS DAUGHTER, TELL MOMMY THAT I LOVE HER. TO BE A GOOD GIRL. A SHORT TIME LATER, LESLEY GOT AN E-MAIL FROM...
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Slen, Peter - Host
VIETNAM VETERAN, DEMOCRAT OF IOWA, TALK ABOUT YOUR COVER STORY. >> THIS AMENDMENT IS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND INCREDIBLY TIMELY. THIS IS THE MOST RECENT...
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MAGAZINE REPORTING THAT MILITARY AND VETERANS SUICIDE IS A TRAGIC EPIDEMIC THAT HAS ONLY GOTTEN WORSE. ARE CURRENTLY USING ONE SOLDIER EVERY DAY TO SUICIDE,...
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
HAS HEARD THE NUMBERS, BUT NOBODY HAS REALLY HEARD THE PAIN THAT THE FAMILIES HAVE GONE THROUGH, AND IN DEED, HOW HARD THEY TRY. THAT IS THE SPOTLIGHT...
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Slen, Peter - Host
ARE MALE, 90% ARE UNLISTED. 84% ARE WHITE. 41% HAVE RECEIVED OUTPATIENT BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES. FIRST CALL FOR MARK THOMPSON FROM MIAMI. TOM, YOU...
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CALLER: THE PROBLEM I SEE, THIS WAR WAS CREATED
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Slen, Peter - Host
BY A LOT OF POLITICIANS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE GENTLEMEN
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THAT PROMISED THAT THE SOLDIER WOULD BE ALL RIGHT, MADE A STATEMENT, REPORTED ON PUBLIC TELEVISION, WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE NOT HELD ACCOUNTABLE? WHY...
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Slen, Peter - Host
PEOPLE IN THE MILITARY DO NOT FEEL THAT WAY. MAKE
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
A PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN. THEY BELIEVE THEY ARE DOING HONORABLE WORK. IT IS JUST THAT THE BURDENS OF THESE WARS ARE FALLING...
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Slen, Peter - Host
CALLING, NOBODY TALKS ABOUT RED FLAG VETERANS. I AND A RED FLAG VETERAN.
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HOST: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? CALLER: OTHER THAN
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Slen, Peter - Host
CALLING ME A COMMUNIST, THAT MEANS -- THAT IS WHAT IT MEANS TO ME. WHAT IT MEANS TO THEM IS,
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THEY HAVE THEIR PINNACLES OUT, YOU WALK THE LINE, YOU FOLLOW THE SCRIPT, YOU DO WHAT THEY SAY, AND HERE IS THE THING. I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THERE ARE...
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Slen, Peter - Host
DIFFERENT WAR NOW. FOR GOOD OR
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
ILL, TROOPS GOING OVER FOR 13 MONTHS, AND THEY CAME HOME AND WERE DONE. THEY DID NOT WANT TO BE THERE, BUT THERE WAS TRULY A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE...
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Slen, Peter - Host
YOU. MARK THOMPSON, DID YOU FIND THAT MORE SUICIDES ARE COMMITTED IN THE FIELD, AFTER SERVICE? GUEST: OVERWHELMINGLY BACK HOME. PART BECAUSE, NUMBER...
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
IS A STRESS THAT HAS BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH SERVING IN THE MILITARY SINCE 9/11, EVEN IF YOU DO NOT DEPLOY. IT CAN MAKE FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS CRUMBLE BECAUSE...
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Slen, Peter - Host
WITH YOUR QUESTION OR COMMENT. NATHAN? CHANDLER, ARIZONA. PAULA. CALLER: I LITERALLY JUST WOKE UP AND LISTEN TO YOUR CONVERSATION AND GOT CHILLS. I HAVE...
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I HAVE BEEN FRIENDS WITH HIM FOR YEARS. HE IS AN APACHE PILOT. THAT IS WHAT REALLY CAPTURED THE CONVERSATION FOR ME. HE HAS TURNED INTO THIS PERSON...
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Slen, Peter - Host
1-800-273-8255.
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THAT IS THE NATIONAL SUICIDE HOT LINE. EVERYONE SHOULD COMMIT THAT NUMBER TO MEMORY IF THEY HAVE SOMEBODY IN THAT FRAME OF MIND. THE ARMY DOES NOT HAVE...
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Slen, Peter - Host
GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. HOW'RE YOU DOING? HOST: WE ARE LISTENING. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
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CALLER: I AM A WAR VETERAN. I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH PTSD. I
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Slen, Peter - Host
HAD SURGERY WHEN I CAME BACK FROM COMBAT.
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WITH THE MILITARY TRADITION AND HISTORY, WHY DON'T WE HAVE THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE REGION? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DISABLED BENEFITS BUT IT HAS BEEN ALMOST...
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
THIS GOVERNMENT, THIS ARMY, FEELS IT CANNOT PAY FOR THE HELP IT NEEDS FOR MENTALLY-AILING TROOPS. GENERAL KIA REALLY TOLD ME THAT. HE SHOULD KNOW. NOW...
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Slen, Peter - Host
GUEST: 14 YEARS. HOST: YOU WON A PULITZER PRIZE FOR
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
A FORMER ARTICLE ON MILITARY HELICOPTERS. GUEST: YES, THE
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Slen, Peter - Host
GENESIS OF THAT PROBLEM. WE HAD A SURVIVOR THAT SAID, I WAS NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG PRIOR TO THE CRASH.
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
THERE WERE NO SURVIVORS TO TALK ABOUT THESE CRASHES. AFTER THE ARTICLES RAN, THE HELICOPTERS WERE GROUNDED AND WERE FIXED, AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN A CRASH...
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Slen, Peter - Host
GUEST: MY EDITORS WANTED A SUICIDE STORY. IT COULD NOT JUST THE NUMBERS BECAUSE THOSE HAVE BEEN DONE ALL OVER AGAIN. HOW CAN WE DO A SUICIDE STORY?
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
NUMBER ONE, THEY ARE NORMALLY THAT EAGER TO HELP, BUT NUMBER TWO, THERE ARE A LOT OF HEALTH REGULATIONS THAT KEEP THE MILITARY FROM TELLING A LOT ABOUT...
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Slen, Peter - Host
YOUR SON IS AN ACTIVE DUTY. CALLER: HOW ARE YOU TODAY? MARK, I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU AND MAYBE ADD SOME AT THE OBSERVATION WITH MY SON THAT MIGHT ADD...
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MY SON WAS DEPLOYED IN AFGHANISTAN AND HIS VEHICLE WAS DESTROYED BY AND IED. HE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH PTSD. WHEN HE GOT HOME FROM HONOLULU, I THOUGHT HE...
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Slen, Peter - Host
YOU HAVE HIT ON
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A KEY NOTION HERE. THE MILITARY MEDICAL FORCES TRY REALLY HARD. THEYHOST: ARE OVERSTRESSED
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
BUT THEY TRY HARD. YOU CANNOT CHANGE QUICKLY THE STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH MENTAL AILMENTS IN THE MILITARY. PARLAY IS BECAUSE OF THE MILITARY MINDSET. SORT...
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Slen, Peter - Host
WHEN A MEMBER OF THE MILITARY COMMITS SUICIDE, ARE THEY GIVEN HONORS, ARE THEY DENIED SERVICES? GUEST: COMPLICATED QUESTION. THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS, WHEN...
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
THEY ARE DONE HONORABLY. I HAVE WITNESSED PHOTOGRAPHS FROM MIKE'S FUNERAL AND YOU COULD NOT TELL HE KILL THEMSELVES. IT WAS VERY RESPECTFUL. BUT IN...
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Slen, Peter - Host
PLEASE GO AHEAD. CALLER: ONE THING THAT IS NOT IN THE EQUATION WHICH AFFECTS A LOT OF TROOPS IS PREVIOUS DEPLOYMENTS UNDER DESERT
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STORM, DESERT SHIELD. NO. WATCH, SOUTHERN WATCH, RESTORE SOMALIA. A LOT OF TROOPS WHO HAVE DEPLOYED TO IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN HAVE DONE PREVIOUS DEPLOYMENT...
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Slen, Peter - Host
CALLER: YES, I DID. I WAS AT A TOWER BOMBING IN 1996. WE LOST
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FIVE IN OUR UNIT. HELICOPTER RESCUE SQUAD. THAT AFFECTED A LOT OF PEOPLE QUITE WELL. I HAVE NOW RECENTLY RETIRED, AFTER 25 YEARS IN THE MILITARY, AND...
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Slen, Peter - Host
CALLER: IT IS PREVENTION, HIGH ANXIETY. ONE THING THAT I NOTICE, WHEN PEOPLE COME BACK FROM THE PERSIAN GULF, WE HAVE A
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SAYING, WE ARE STILL ON THE WIRE. IT IS SORT OF BEWILDERING. YOU GET OFF AT THE AIRPORT, YOU ARE IN A CIVILIAN AIRPORT, YOU ARE LOOKING AT ALL THIS...
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Slen, Peter - Host
FOR A QUARTER CENTURY OF SERVICE, SIR. IT IS INTERESTING THE POINT YOU MAKE ABOUT THE 22 HOURS AFTER COMBAT. SOME
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Thompson, Mark - Correspondent
PEOPLE SAY LET'S BRING BACK THE TROOPSHIPS. LET'S HAVE THEM ON WITH THEIR BUDDIES IN WAR, FOR A WEEK OR TWO. THAT PLANE RIDE THAT CAN BE DISCONCERTING....
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Slen, Peter - Host
AFGHANISTAN. MARK THOMPSON, DEPUTY BUREAU CHIEF OF "TIME" MAGAZINE, CO- AUTHOR OF THE COVER STORY. THE
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