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Petri, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Representative, [R] Wisconsin
WITNESSES AND WE ALL LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR TESTIMONY. THANK YOU FOR THE EFFORT THAT YOU'VE AHEAD TO PREPARE THAT. THE ACCOUNT TOWER PROGRAM HAS BEEN...
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| 00:04:19 |
Costello, Jerry - U.S. Representative, [D] Illinois
WHICH I WILL ENTER INTO THE RECORD AND YIELD MY TIME AT THIS POINT TO THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE FULL COMMITTEE. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. I...
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| 00:04:41 |
Rahall, Nick Joe - U.S. Representative, [D] West Virginia
FAA. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT OUR WITNESSES OF THE ROLES OF AIRPORTS IN SMALLER COMMUNITIES TA MIGHT THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE CONTROL TOWERS. IT...
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| 00:07:41 |
Petri, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Representative, [R] Wisconsin
YOU FOR BEING HERE. DAID DAVID GRIZZLE AND THE HONORABLE JULIE OETTINGER. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. GENERAL SCOVEL. >> MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE,...
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| 00:08:20 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
250 TOWERS NATIONWIDE. THE PROGRAM HAS PROVIDED A VALUABLE SERVICE TO SMALLER CITIES AND AIRPORTS THAT WOULD NOT HAVE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL SERVICES...
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| 00:13:00 |
Grizzle, David - Chief Operating Officer
OUT SET LET ME INTRODUCE MY COLLEAGUE, JULIE OETTINGER. HER OFFICE IS RESPONSIBILITY FOR USING FAA'S COST ACCOUNTING DATA TO REFINE THE AGENCY'S COST...
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| 00:19:53 |
Petri, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Representative, [R] Wisconsin
YOU. THANK YOU BOTH. I THINK WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE TO ASK A FEW. MR. GRIZZLE, YOU TALK ABOUT BEING A DYNAMIC SYSTEM AND WITH...
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| 00:21:42 |
Grizzle, David - Chief Operating Officer
THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A MORE COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION, THAT WAS NOT OUR FIRST CONCERN. OUR FIRST CONCERN WAS TO DO WHAT WE BELIEVED WAS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL...
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| 00:27:17 |
Costello, Jerry - U.S. Representative, [D] Illinois
ONE PARTICULAR AIRPORT THE HANDBOOK WASN'T AVAILABLE FOR THE CONTROLLER. I KNOW THAT STAFF IS, THERE'S A MEETING THAT WILL TAKE PLACE THIS COMING FRIDAY...
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| 00:28:13 |
Grizzle, David - Chief Operating Officer
CONTRACT TOWERS. >> CERTAINLY. WE HAVE A VOLUNTARY REPORTING SYSTEM SYSTEM. IT HAS TWO PRINCIPLE FEATURES TO IT THAT MAKE IT VERY EFFECTIVE. ONE...
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| 00:32:38 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
STATEMENT? >> THANK YOU, MR. COSTELLO. WE HAVE NOTED THAT WHILE IT WAS IN PLACE FOR FAA CONTROLLED TOWERED, IT WAS NOT MADE PART OF THE CURRENT CONTRACT,...
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| 00:34:50 |
Costello, Jerry - U.S. Representative, [D] Illinois
I AM DIRECTING THIS LINE OF QUESTIONING IS, YOU KNOW WE OUGHT TO BE ON THE SAME SYSTEM HERE, WITH FAA STAFF TOWERS AND CONTRACT TOWERS. WE'RE GOING...
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| 00:35:43 |
Lankford, James - U.S. Representative, [R] Oklahoma
AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON, OR THERE'S A LOWER ERROR RATE IN THE CONTRACT TOWERS? >> WE NEED
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| 00:35:54 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
BETTER DATA. THAT WILL DRAW THE CONCLUSIONS. THIS NOTES BOTH THE ABSOLUTE NUMBERS OF SAFETY INCIDENTS IN THE RATES PER 1 MILLION CONTRASTING CONTRACT...
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| 00:36:59 |
Lankford, James - U.S. Representative, [R] Oklahoma
APP IN PLACE. >> MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS CHEAPER TO DO A CONTRACTED TOWER. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW ON SAFETY ISSUE. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOWER...
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| 00:37:28 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
CAN BE LEARNED THE OTHER DIRECTION AS WELL? >> SURE. SAFETY IS COMPARABLE BETWEEN THE TWO TYPES OF TOWERS. WHEN IT COMES TO COST, THERE IS AS OUR STATEMENT...
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| 00:40:47 |
Grizzle, David - Chief Operating Officer
TOWERS. I WILL SAY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE SPECIFIC MANAGEMENT IN THE LARGER FACILITIES ABSOLUTELY DWARFS THE ABILITY OF US TO MOVE FEDERAL CONTRACT...
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| 00:41:15 |
Rahall, Nick Joe - U.S. Representative, [D] West Virginia
YOU, WHEN COMPARING ERROR RATES BETWEEN CONTRACT TOWERS AND FAA TOWERS, YOU REFER TO REPORTED KEY WORDS ERRORS. WOULD YOU AGREE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE...
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| 00:41:59 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
AIRPORT. >> THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENCE. WE DON'T KNOW. I DO HAVE TO COUCH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED TO THE COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF AN INFRIMPBS...
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| 00:42:57 |
Rahall, Nick Joe - U.S. Representative, [D] West Virginia
BASIS FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION IN YOUR WRITTEN TESTIMONY WHERE YOU STATE THE ADOPTION OF VOLUNTARY SAFETY PROGRAM AMONG CONTRACT TOWERS WOULD APPROVE THE...
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| 00:44:35 |
Grizzle, David - Chief Operating Officer
HAS UNQUESTIONED VALUES IN TERMS OF PROVIDING US A GREATER AMOUNT OF DATA ABOUT
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| 00:44:41 |
Rahall, Nick Joe - U.S. Representative, [D] West Virginia
EVENTS THAT OCCUR. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR
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| 00:44:58 |
Ribble, Reid - U.S. Representative, [R] Wisconsin
YOUR QUESTIONS TODAY. I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD. I GET ON AN AIRPLANE EVERY SINGLE WEEK. EAFR YOU KNOW WHAT, I...
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| 00:46:42 |
Grizzle, David - Chief Operating Officer
WE RELY VERY HEAVILY UPON THE INSIGHTS OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL. WHENEVER THE INSPECTOR GENERAL OBSERVES DEFICIENCIES IN THE OPERATION, WE IMMEDIATELY...
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| 00:47:30 |
Ribble, Reid - U.S. Representative, [R] Wisconsin
WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. I MOST OFTEN FLY OUT OF WISCONSIN AT A CONTRACT TOWER. AND I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT AIRPORT IS TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT...
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| 00:48:56 |
Hultgren, Randy - U.S. Representative, [R] Illinois
OETTINGER. WILL THE FAA WORK WITH AIRPORT STAKE HOLDERS TO REACH CONSENSUS TO THE BENEFIT CONTRACT ANALYSIS FOR CONTRACT TOWERS? >> ABSOLUTELY. WE ARE...
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| 00:49:51 |
Grizzle, David - Chief Operating Officer
CONTROLLERS. >> ALTHOUGH WE HAVE RECEIVED NO SPECIFIC DIRECTION AS TO THE IMPACT OF SEQUESTRATION ON THE FAA, WE HAVE DONE A GREAT DEAL OF INTERNAL...
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| 00:53:31 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
ATTENTION TO THOSE MEASURES. WE KNOW THAT THE AGENCY IS STRESSED. ALL AIR TRAFFIC FACILITIES, WHEN IT COMES TO AGING FACILITIES AND MAKING SURE THEY...
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Hultgren, Randy - U.S. Representative, [R] Illinois
WOULD ALSO FALL INTO THAT GROUP. >> THANK YOU. I DO APPRECIATE IT. I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE WE'LL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT AND GET REAL...
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| 00:54:25 |
Costello, Jerry - U.S. Representative, [D] Illinois
CASE. WHILE YOU MAY NOT HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE, YOU DO HAVE A DOLLAR FIGURE. IF IN FACT IT GOES FORWARD, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WILL BE CUT OUT OF THE...
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| 00:55:23 |
Grizzle, David - Chief Operating Officer
SCENARIOS. WE HAVE DONE PLANNING FOR A NUMBER LARGER THAN WHAT WE THINK IS LIKELY. WE HAVE BEEN PLANNING FOR SMALLER NUMBERS. SO I'M NOT PREPARED TO...
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| 00:56:45 |
Southerland, William "steve" Steve II - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
QUESTIONING FROM MY GOOD FRIEND IF YOU WERE GOING TO FACE A BILLION DOLLAR IN CUTS, AND I HEAR YOUR HESITANCY ABOUT CONFIRMING THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S...
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| 00:58:21 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
FAIR? >> YES, GENERALLY. THEY ARE COMPARABLE. THEY ARE COMPARABLE IN TERMS OF SAFETY AS WELL. AND MY POINT IS IF YOU ARE TO LOOK AT THE DATA PRESENTED...
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| 00:59:09 |
Southerland, William "steve" Steve II - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
TOWERS. BUT BASED ON THE VOLUME, ARE THEY STAFFED PROPERLY AS COMPARED TO THE FAA TOWERS? >> WE BELIEVE THEY ARE. AND WE BELIEVE FAA TOWERS GIVEN...
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| 01:02:22 |
LoBiondo, Frank A. - U.S. Representative, [R] New Jersey
YOU. MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED ALREADY. DOES THE FAA APPROVE STAFFING PLANS FOR EACH CONTRACT TOWER? >> YES, WE DO. AND DO YOU THINK...
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| 01:02:38 |
Grizzle, David - Chief Operating Officer
I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY ARE UNDERSTAFFED. >> OKAY. AND ARE TLHERE PLANS TO HAVE CONTRACT TOWER CONTROLLERS PARTICIPATE IN VOLUNTARY REPORTING PROGRAM?...
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| 01:03:17 |
Petri, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Representative, [R] Wisconsin
TESTIMONY. AND YOU'LL BE SUBMITTING SOME INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO MR. COSTELLO'S QUESTIONS. AND WE'LL NOW TURN TO THE SECOND PANEL. >> IF I MAY TAKE...
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| 01:03:35 |
Scovel, Calvin L. III - Inspector General
LOT OF TALK THIS MORNING AND SOME BY ME CONCERNING THE PROGRAM. WE ARE STRONG ENDORSERS, HOWEVER I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT NOTE WE WILL BE ISSUING...
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| 01:04:15 |
Petri, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Representative, [R] Wisconsin
YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. AND THANK YOU ALL. NOW, AS THE SECOND PANEL IS ASSEMBLING, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OUR COLLEAGUE TO INTRODUCE THE FIRST PERSON...
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| 01:05:56 |
Strong, Walter - Chair
ON? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MR. COSTELLO AND MEMBERS OF THE SUB COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO THE DISCUSS THE TOWER PROGRAM. I WOULD...
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| 01:10:47 |
Petri, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Representative, [R] Wisconsin
TIME. >> WELL, THANK YOU. MISS GILBERT. >> CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE
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| 01:10:55 |
Gilbert, Trish - Executive Vice President
SUB COMMITTEE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO TESTIFY TODAY. NAPA IS IN A VERY UNIQUE PROFESSION TO EVALUATE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FAA AND...
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| 01:16:00 |
Rudinger, Melissa - Senior Vice President
MORNING. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY TO TESTIFY AND GIVE THE USESRS AND AIRCRAFT CONTROLLERS PERSPECTIVE ON TOWERS. THIS HAS PROVIDED...
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| 01:20:53 |
Petri, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Representative, [R] Wisconsin
TESTIMONY. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. MR. STRONG, AS THE PREVIOUS PANEL INDICATED WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REVISING...
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| 01:21:39 |
Strong, Walter - Chair
ITEMS THAT THEY INTEND TO INCLUDE IN THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS WITH BELIEVE ARE APPROPRIATE. PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE WORLD HAS CHANGED...
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| 01:23:31 |
Petri, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Representative, [R] Wisconsin
DIRECTION. >> I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS QUESTION IS DIRECTLY FOR YOU OR IF OTHERS WOULD CARE TO RESPOND, BUT WE LIVE IN A WORLD...
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| 01:25:29 |
Strong, Walter - Chair
CHAIRMAN, I MIGHT CHARACTERIZE IT IN THE FOLLOWING FASHION. I'M REMINDED OF A DAY WHEN I WAS AT THE OSH-KOSH EVENT BACK IN IF '90s. I WAS FAUKING TO...
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| 01:28:18 |
Costello, Jerry - U.S. Representative, [D] Illinois
STRONG, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE HEARD WITH THE BEST CONTRACT TOWERS, IN FACT THE FAA CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF MAINTAINING THEIR FACILITIES AND ...
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| 01:28:44 |
Strong, Walter - Chair
OF UPGRADING OUR EQUIPMENT. ONE OF THE COMMENTS EARLIER IS OLD RADIOS, YOU CANNOT USE A HEADSET WITH THE RADIO. I'LL ADMIT TO YOU THAT WE HAVE A LIGHT...
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| 01:30:08 |
Gilbert, Trish - Executive Vice President
JOB IN BOTH FEDERAL AND CONTRACT TOWERS. IF THEY'RE DISTRACTED BY MAINTAINING EQUIPMENT, WHICH THEY OFTEN ARE, THEY'RE HAVING TO DO IT THEMSELVES BECAUSE...
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| 01:31:50 |
Costello, Jerry - U.S. Representative, [D] Illinois
SYSTEM. >> YOU JUST ANSWERED MY SECOND QUESTION. THE FINAL QUESTION, MISS GILBERT, AS YOU MENTION IN THE WRITTEN TESTIMONY THAT THE CONTRACT TOWERS...
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| 01:33:09 |
Lankford, James - U.S. Representative, [R] Oklahoma
NO. >> WHAT ABOUT IN A -- IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN SAFETY BETWEEN A CONTRACT TOWER AND AIRPORT WITH
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| 01:33:16 |
Strong, Walter - Chair
NO TOWER? >> NO. >> OKAY. >> AND I PAUSE BECAUSE YOU HAVE DIFFERENT HUMANS WORKING IN DIFFERENT TOWERS. AND TO MES THAT'S NOT WHETHER IT'S A CONTRACT...
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| 01:33:56 |
Gilbert, Trish - Executive Vice President
IN MY AIRSPACE IS HATTYS BURG, MISSISSIPPI. THERE ARE NO TOWERS THERE. WE PROVIDED THE SERVICE OUT OF THE FACILITY. AND IT WAS A COMPLETELY SAFE OPERATION....
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| 01:34:24 |
Lankford, James - U.S. Representative, [R] Oklahoma
RATE OF IN AND OUT AS WELL? YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE DOING TAKEOFFS AND LANDINGS EVERY THREE MINUTES? >> NO. ONE'S IN,. >> YOU CAN'T SEE A...
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| 01:35:18 |
Strong, Walter - Chair
COVERED? WHAT EFFECT DOES IT HAVE? >> MY CONCERN IS THAT IT DOESN'T GET COVERED. IF WE GET TO A PLACE WHERE THE FAA ASKS A COMMUNITY TO -- YOUR COST BENEFIT...
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| 01:37:01 |
Lankford, James - U.S. Representative, [R] Oklahoma
FLEXIBILITY IN THESE AREAS, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE AN INCREASED COST AS A TRADEOFF? >> I SUPPOSE THERE MIGHT BE, SIR. I WOULDN'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT,...
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| 01:37:59 |
Gilbert, Trish - Executive Vice President
JUST AS OUR TESTIMONY SAYS, OUR CONCERN IS ABOUT PROPER TRAINING, PROPER STAFFING AND PROPER EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE, REGARDLESS WHETHER IT'S A CONTRACT...
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| 01:38:15 |
Lankford, James - U.S. Representative, [R] Oklahoma
MISTAKE TO MOVE THOSE? >> IT HASN'T PROVEN TO BE UNSAFE, WE HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE MARGIN SAFETY BEING STRETCHED TO ACCOMMODATE THE BOTTOM LINE VERSUS...
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| 01:39:10 |
Strong, Walter - Chair
POLICY BOARD FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS, AND IN THAT TIME I'VE BEEN THE CHAIR FOR ABOUT SIX. I HAVE MET WITH THE CONTRACTORS ON A FREQUENT RECURRING BASIS,...
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| 01:42:16 |
Petri, Thomas "Tom" - U.S. Representative, [R] Wisconsin
ADJOURNED. >>>
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