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MODERATING THIS DISTINGUISHED PANEL TODAY. IN THE WORDS OF ADMIRAL STOCKDALE, WHO ARE WE AND WHY ARE WE HERE? WE ARE HERE BECAUSE A MOMENTOUS DECISION...
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| 00:05:04 |
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THE OUTCOME OF THIS CASE WAS COMPLETELY WRONG. IF I HAD ANY SENSE AT ALL, I WOULD GO OUT OF THE PREDICTION BUSINESS. I THOUGHT IT WAS BARELY POSSIBLE...
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| 00:10:57 |
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LET ME TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS OF THE DECISION AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT MAY BE CHIEF JUSTICE DO WHAT HE DID. I AM BASICALLY QUITE...
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| 00:17:58 |
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TRANSFORMATION OF THE HEALTH- CARE SYSTEM. I THINK THE STARTING POINT IS THE IS CENTRAL GREEN LIGHT THAT THE DECISION GETS TO THE ENTIRE ACT, WHICH IS...
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| 00:25:55 |
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ONE, MY VIEWS CANNOT REPRESENT PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE EMPLOYERS AND FUNDERS. UNLIKE DAVID I DID NOT FOCUS ON CONSTITUTIONAL LAW IN THE FRAMEWORK OF...
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| 00:32:58 |
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PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. I HAVE MY OWN ADMISSION TO MAKE. I THOUGHT THE MAN THEY WOULD SURVIVE, BECAUSE I FIGURED BASED ON ORAL ARGUMENTS THAT JUSTICE...
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| 00:41:04 |
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HEARD THAT THEY BET WRONG INITIALLY ON THE OUTCOME OF THE LAW LIKE JUST ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE I SUSPECT. >> I GOT A QUARTER OUT OF IT. >>
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| 00:41:21 |
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WEALTH TRANSFER. >> MIKE WENT ON TO EXPRESS THE QUESTION THAT
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| 00:41:32 |
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MOST PLAGUES HIM WHICH IS, WHY DID JUSTICE ROBERTS DO WHAT
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| 00:41:37 |
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HE DID? YOU HEARD THE THEORY THAT THIS REALLY WAS AN ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT POLITICAL MOVE. JUSTIN -- JUSTICE ROBERTS BEING TOO BRILLIANT THAT HE WAS ABLE...
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| 00:48:38 |
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BROUGHT TO A HEAD THE SAME KINDS OF PROFOUND CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTIONS THAT AROSE IN THIS CASE. ON THE OTHER HAND, I AM NOT SURE ANYTHING OTHER THAN HEALTH...
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| 00:50:20 |
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TO SAY TO PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF, IT WAS ABOUT THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLES. AS A MATTER OF POLITICS AND POLICY HEALTH-CARE, PROVIDED A UNIQUELY SUGGESTIBLE...
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| 00:51:38 |
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SAY THAT HEALTH CARE IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST OF THE HURRICANES BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN SUCH A CENTRAL DEBATE SINCE THE NEW DEAL, AND I ACHIEVED AMBITION....
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| 00:52:14 |
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CERTAINLY, THE HOPE IS THAT THIS WOULD BE THE OPENING WEDGE IN A REDEFINITION OF OUR COMMERCE CLAUSE JURISPRUDENCE AND OUR WILLINGNESS TO SET THE MODERN...
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| 00:53:21 |
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WHETHER THIS IS AN EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING PROGRAM OR A NEW
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| 00:53:25 |
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PROGRAM. THIS IS WHAT THE GREAT LAW MAKER CALLED TRANSCENDENTAL NONSENSE. SOMEHOW, THIS IS EXTENDING THE PROGRAM TO PREGNANT WOMEN IS AN EXPANSION OF...
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| 00:54:31 |
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A UNIQUE ROLE IN TERMS OF CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. THE UNIQUE COMPLEXITY OF THE SUBSIDY PATTERNS AND THE INSTITUTIONAL ARRANGEMENTS IN HEALTH CARE. THE COMPLEXITY...
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| 00:56:05 |
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AS FOLLOWS -- THIS IS A COMMAND TO BUY INSURANCE AS A TAX THAT WOULD UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTIONAL OUT. IT IS ONLY BECAUSE IT DOES NOT AUTHORIZE SUCH A COMMAND...
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| 00:56:58 |
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OF. IT IS NOT THE NATURE OF GOING FROM PREGNANT WOMEN TO NON PREGNANT WOMEN. IF YOU TAKE STATE SOVEREIGNTY SERIOUSLY, IT IS A SIMPLE MATTER OF DOLLARS...
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| 00:59:03 |
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| 00:59:06 |
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A COUPLE OF ISSUES ARE ON THE TABLE. ONE IS THE IMPACT OF THE EXPANSION. THE SECOND IS THE MULTIPLIER EFFECT POTENTIALLY OF WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE PROMPT...
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| 01:02:35 |
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THERE IS NO DEFINING PRINCIPLE HERE OF WHAT IT BECOMES WORSE AND WHEN IT IS NOT. WHEN WE ADDED A CHILDHOOD IMMUNIZATION, DID THAT BECOME TOO BIG OF A...
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| 01:04:05 |
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INTO THIS NATIONAL ROSZAK TEST. LET'S TAKE SOME QUESTIONS. PLEASE GO TO THE MICROPHONE, IF YOU WOULD. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. >> HELLO. THE
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| 01:04:29 |
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FOLLOWING UP ON THE COST ARGUMENT, BASICALLY, THE WAY THAT THE STRUCTURE WAS, THE REASON THAT THEY USE MEDICAID AS A WAY TO EXPAND COVERAGE IS BECAUSE...
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| 01:05:19 |
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WRITTEN,, IT IS POSSIBLE IF YOU
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| 01:05:22 |
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EARNED INCOME AT THE PROPERTY LEVEL OR HIGHER TO GET SUBSIDIES IF YOUR NET MEDICAID ELIGIBLE. IF YOU ARE BELOW 100% OF POVERTY, THERE IS NO SUBSIDY FOR...
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| 01:05:53 |
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ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF -- ALL OF THE POOR PEOPLE WOULD FIND THEMSELVES OUT IN THE COLD. >> THAT IS ANOTHER TRANSFORMER
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| 01:06:03 |
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TO FUTURE.
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| 01:06:09 |
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HAS ANYONE HEARD ABOUT TRANSFORMATION OF QUALITY INTO QUANTITY? IS A QUESTION OF WHAT IS THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT. THIS FINAL STEP OF EXPANSION WILL BANKRUPT...
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| 01:06:47 |
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PROCESSES ON BOTH SIDES. >> THOSE OF US WITHIN HAVE GRAY HAIR KNOW THAT WHAT THIS CAME AFTER WAS BETWEEN THE 1965 LOSS ESTIMATES ON
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| 01:07:01 |
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HOW MUCH THE MEDICARE PROGRAM WOULD COST VERSUS THE REALITY OF HOW THAT PROGRAM EXPLODED. THIS WAS ONE OF THE GREAT MORAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE COUNTRY....
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| 01:08:18 |
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PROGRAM AND THE STATES DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT MEDICAID. HERE IS THE ARGUMENT, CONGRESS COMES ALONG AND OUT OF ITS BENEFICENCE OFFERS THE STATES A HUGE POT...
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| 01:09:25 |
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COVERED NOW UNDER MEDICAID ARE ALSO GETTING HEALTH CARE AND THEY ARE ENDING UP IN THE HOSPITAL AND SOMEONE IS PAYING THE BILL. WE KNOW THAT INDIRECTLY,...
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| 01:10:01 |
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CLEAR COVERAGE FOR PEOPLE, THEIR CARE WILL CLEARLY
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| 01:10:04 |
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BE PAID FOR THROUGH THE MEDICAID PROGRAM, BUT SOMEHOW THAT IS WORSE THAN PAY FOR IT THROUGH ALL OF THESE MACHINATIONS THAT WE ARE PAYING FOR IT NOW,...
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| 01:10:21 |
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THAN CROSS SUBSIDIES AND IT JUST SEEMS ODD TO ME. WE HAVE JERRY RIG AN ENTIRE INSURANCE SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE UP TO THE LEVEL OF OUR...
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| 01:11:01 |
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HAVE BEEN PRESENTED A CHOICE. THE STATES HAVE BEEN GIVEN OVER VOLUNTARILY TO THE FRONT END AND A PROGRAM BASED UPON CERTAIN FISCAL PROJECTIONS. NOW,...
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| 01:12:27 |
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STATE HEALTH POLICY AND I RUN THIS STATE REFORM.
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| 01:12:32 |
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WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THIS DAY. IF YOU WERE STILL IMAGINE YOU WERE THERE, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK THE FIRST QUESTIONS YOU WOULD GET. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE...
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| 01:13:05 |
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STATES HAVE TO MAINTAIN THEIR EFFORTS UNTIL 2014. THEY CANNOT BACK OFF OF THE CURRENT PROGRAMS, THE SO-CALLED MADE ITS OF EFFORT PROVISION. I HAVE HEARD...
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| 01:14:06 |
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GIVES STATES MORE FLEXIBILITY AROUND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS ELIGIBILITY GROUP, DOES THE DECISION IN SOME WAY CHANGE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ELIGIBILITY...
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| 01:16:29 |
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A MORE TECHNICAL QUESTION AND THEN A BROADER PHILOSOPHICAL. WILL STATES BE ALLOWED AT ANY POINT IN THE
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| 01:16:36 |
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DURATION TO MOVE FORWARD TO ADD A BETTER POINT OF TO IN TO THIS MEDICAID EXPANSION AND RECEIVE THE FUNDS OR WILL THERE BE AN OPEN ENROLLMENT? THE QUESTION...
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| 01:17:38 |
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MAKING THIS STATES EAT BROCCOLI OR DO THEY HAVE THE OPTION NOW TO EAT BROCCOLI WHEN THEY WANT TO OR IF THEY WANT TO? >> WELL, I THINK THAT THAT IS A...
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| 01:17:54 |
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JANUARY, 2014, THIS NEW GROUP BECOMES -- THIS IS NOT REALLY A REQUIRED THE GROUP. THIS IS A GROUP WITH LIMITED FOR SMUD POWERS. AND FEDERAL FINANCIAL...
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| 01:20:06 |
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THIS AREA AND THE INTERPRETATION OF THE GUIDANCE. A SECOND QUESTION I WOULD ASK BACK IS, OR ELSE WHAT? BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE ROBERTS OPINION, THE ONLY...
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| 01:20:40 |
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THE QUESTION, THEY WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO SAY THIS LAW COULD BE STRUCK DOWN WITHOUT INDICATING ANYTHING ELSE, THAT THIS WAS UNIQUE BECAUSE IT WAS REGULATING...
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| 01:21:21 |
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DAVID INDICATED ONE WAY, SO ONE WAY TO READ THE OPINION -- IT IS NOT THE ONLY WAY -- IS A VERY
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| 01:21:30 |
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NARROW INTERPRETATION OF THE CLAUSE. IF THAT CLAUSE WERE TO BE SIGNIFICANT LEAD NARROWED COME AT THE AIRPORT HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE, MANY OTHER PROGRAMS...
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| 01:23:59 |
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ABOUT THE MEDICAID PIECE OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE AUSPICES OF BILLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT -- CONGRESS JUST
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| 01:24:06 |
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TO MAKE A MANDATORY CATEGORY AND THE QUESTION BECOMES, DOES CONGRESS HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT THE PROVISIONS PUT WHAT THEY DID WITH THE FUNDING CUTS, TO...
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| 01:24:40 |
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BASIS, DOES IT CALL INTO QUESTION HOW SOME OF THOSE DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE HOSPITAL STATEMENTS WERE CALCULATED,
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| 01:24:47 |
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OR WHAT KIND OF ASSUMPTIONS WERE MADE ABOUT HOW MANY UNINSURED PEOPLE -- YES, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A POLICY QUESTION THERE. DOES THE CONGRESS HAVE TO CHANGE...
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| 01:25:27 |
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IN MAY BEGIN TO DROP, AND SO THERE IS A GREAT NEED TO MAINTAIN -- IF YOU THINK OF MEDICAID AS A WAY TO FINANCE HEALTH CARE FOR INDIGENT PEOPLE, THE POINT...
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| 01:25:59 |
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| 01:26:02 |
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THE COMMENT AND THEN A QUESTION. THE COMMENT IS I THINK THIS WAS ENTIRELY ABOUT HEALTH CARE. I THINK IT WAS ABOUT THE 22,000 PEOPLE WHO DIE EVERY YEAR...
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| 01:28:17 |
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ABOUT COERCION, THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES, WHAT INDUCEMENTS EXIST BY THE INHERENT NATURE OF THE STRUCTURE THE LAW VERSUS OTHER INDUCEMENTS THE SECRETARY...
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| 01:30:03 |
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MY QUESTION IS NOT A POLICY QUESTION. IT IS A PERSONAL LEGAL QUESTION. IN READING THE OPINION, THE CHIEF
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| 01:30:13 |
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JUSTICE WENT TO GREAT LENGTHS TO AVOID MAKING POLICY JUDGMENTS AND MUCH HAS BEEN MADE ABOUT AND TRY TO BE AN UMPIRE. I SAW THAT AND MUCH OF THE PENNY,...
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| 01:31:15 |
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A COOPERATIVE PROGRAM THAT STATES COULD OPT IN. AT CERTAIN PARAMETERS, AND THOSE PARAMETERS WOULD CHANGE. THE QUESTION IS, IS THIS A STEP TOO FAR? WHAT...
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| 01:32:07 |
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OF THE POVERTY LEVEL ARE NOT THE LEAST AMONG US. THIS IS AN INDICATION OF HOW OUT OF TOUCH SOME MEMBERS OF THE SUPREME COURT ARE WITH THE WAY MANY AMERICANS...
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| 01:33:14 |
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I AM A RECENT GRADUATE OF THIS SCHOOL, AT MY QUESTION IS DIRECTED
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| 01:33:20 |
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TOWARD GREGG, PERHAPS OTHERS, BECAUSE HE IS ALSO A PHYSICIAN. THIS IS A DERIVATIVE OF THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU HAD HAD PICKED ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE IS...
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| 01:34:33 |
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QUICKLY AND MEDICAL CARE OF THE SORT WE WOULD EXPECT HAPPEN ONLY IF THE CLINTON PLAN HAD SUCCEEDED. THERE ARE POWERFUL ECONOMIC FORCES OPERATING IN BOTH...
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| 01:37:03 |
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NOT DOING IT RIGHT. >>
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| 01:37:04 |
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| 01:37:10 |
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POLITICS AND LAW. >> THE STRUGGLE FOR THE
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| 01:37:20 |
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SOUL OF HEALTH INSURANCE. >> OK, THERE YOU HAVE IT.
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| 01:37:27 |
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THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT TO COME BACK AND TAKE THOSE COURSES TEXTURE, WE WILL SEE IF
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| 01:37:33 |
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WE CAN DO THAT. THANKS VERY MUCH. [CAPTIONS COPYRIGHT NATIONAL CABLE SATELLITE CORP. 2012] [CAPTIONING PERFORMED BY NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE]...
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| 01:38:03 |
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THEN A DISCUSSION ON INCREASED EFFORTS TO REPEAL THE HEALTH CARE WALL. LATER, A DISCUSSION ON THE EMERGENCY MEETING HELD IN GENEVA TO DISCUSS THE VIOLENCE...
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