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Unidentified Speaker, -
THANKS FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING. GUEST: GLAD TO BE HERE.
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HOST, -
HOST: ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC HOLDER IS GOING BEFORE MANY COMMITTEES NOW.
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GUEST, -
DARRELL ISSA HAS SAID WITH REPUBLICAN SUPPORT HE WOULD LIKE TO
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| 00:00:19 |
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MOVE FORWARD ON HOLDING ERIC HOLDER IN CONTEMPT. IS THIS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED? GUEST: THERE'S ALWAYS A POLITICAL MOTIVATION, ALMOST ALWAYS, BEHIND EVERYTHING...
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GUEST, -
OFFICIAL LEVEL. I THINK THERE'S ALSO A REAL DISPUTE AND A REAL FRUSTRATION ON THE PART OF REPUBLICANS. THERE WAS A SUBPOENA ISSUED IN OCTOBER FOR THE...
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LET'S LISTEN TO AN EXTENT THAT HAPPENED BETWEEN CONGRESSMAN DARRELL ISSA AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL LAST WEEK. THIS IS A JUDICIARY HOUSE HEARING. >> HAVE...
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WE BELIEVE WE HAVE RESPONDED TO THE SUBPOENAS. >> MR. ATTORNEY GENERAL, YOU'RE NOT A GOOD WITNESS. A GOOD WITNESS ANSWER THE QUESTION.
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| 00:02:32 |
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LET'S GO BACK AGAIN. HAVE YOU AND YOUR ATTORNEYS
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| 00:02:35 |
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PRODUCED, INTERNALLY, THE MATERIALS? HAVE YOU TAKEN THE TIME TO LOOK UP ARE SUBPOENAS AND FIND OUT WHETHER YOU HAVE RESPONDED OR HAVE YOU SIMPLY INVENTED...
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HAVE PROCESSED MILLIONS OF ELECTRONIC RECORDS AND REVIEWED 140,000
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DOCUMENTS AND. >>
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HOW MANY ARE NEW WITHHOLDING AT THIS TIME? >> WE HAVE PRODUCED 7600. BUT I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT 7600. >>
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I WOULD BEG -- >>
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DELAYS OUT OF ORDER. >> I WOULD BEG TO ALLOW THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
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TO BE ABLE TO FINISH HIS ANSWER.
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HOST: THAT WAS THE HOUSE JUDICIARY
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COMMITTEE MEETING LAST WEEK. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE TONE?
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| 00:03:32 |
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GUEST: I THINK THE DARRELL ISSA WAS VERY TESTY. I DON'T THINK HE COMES ACROSS ALL THAT WELL IN THAT SNIPPET. KEEP IN MIND, WHAT IS HAPPENING
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| 00:03:40 |
GUEST, -
IS HE IS ASKING ABOUT ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT HE HAS NOT TURNED OVER, LIKE THE INSPECTOR GENERAL WHO REPORTEDLY HAS 80,000 PAGES OF DOCUMENTS. ERIC HOLDER...
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| 00:04:30 |
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TO CURB GUN TRAFFICKING. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS STORY AND OTHER NEWS STORIES WITH RAMESH PONNURU WHO IS A SENIOR EDITOR AT NATIONAL REVIEW. IF YOU...
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CALLER, -
THE NEXT THING I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOUR GUEST, ABOUT DARRELL ISSA, HAS HE FOUND OUT ABOUT A WAREHOUSE THAT COULD CATCH ON FIRE THAT HE OWNS AND HAS NO...
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| 00:05:58 |
GUEST, -
THE HOUSE INVESTIGATION, AND CHAIRMAN OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. ON THE QUESTION OF WHEN THE OPERATION STARTED, I THINK WHAT HE IS GETTING AT IS IF THERE...
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| 00:07:07 |
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VERY HONEST ANYWAY. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THE MONEY
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| 00:07:11 |
CALLER, -
COMES FROM TO BUY THOSE GUNS THAT THEY GAVE TO MEXICO OR SOLD TO MEXICO AND HOW MUCH MONEY THEY MADE OFF THE DEAL WHEN THEY SOLD THEM BACK TO MEXICO....
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| 00:07:30 |
GUEST, -
OFTEN SEEMS AS THOUGH THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL, PROBLEMATIC ASPECTS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION, SEVEN TIMES OUT OF 10, THEY COME BACK TO ERIC HOLDER. THERE...
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| 00:08:05 |
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WHAT WOULD IT MEAN TO HOLD? HIM IN HOLD WHY IS THAT SIGNIFICANT? -- WHAT WOULD IT MEAN TO HOLD HIM IN CONTEMPT? GUEST: IT MEANS YOU HAVE A CRIMINAL REFERRAL...
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GUEST, -
INVESTIGATING AND TRYING THAT CASE. THERE ARE CRIMINAL PENALTIES. THAT IS THE POTENTIAL FOR FINES AND JAIL TIME A TATTOO THAT. IT DOES NOT HAPPEN ALL...
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| 00:08:47 |
HOST, -
HARRIET MYERS AND JUST BOLTON
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| 00:08:51 |
GUEST, -
GOT CONTEMPT CITATIONS. HOST: LET'S LISTEN TO MORE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC HOLDER TESTIFYING BEFORE THE HOUSE TRADITIONALLY COMMITTEE LAST WEEK IN RESPONSE...
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| 00:09:02 |
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QUESTIONS AND ARIZONA CONGRESSMAN. >> I'VE LOOKED AT THESE AFFIDAVITS. IS NOTHING IN THOSE AFFIDAVITS THAT INDICATE GUN WALKING WAS ALLOWED.
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| 00:09:12 |
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SO I DID NOT SEE ANYTHING IN THERE THAT WAS PUT ON THEIR OF A PERSON REVIEWING EITHER AT THE LINE LEVEL OR THE DEPUTY ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL LEVEL,...
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| 00:09:34 |
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KNOW. THE QUESTION IS THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAD TO
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GUEST, -
SIGN OFF ON THESE WIRETAP APPLICATIONS. THE QUESTION IS HOW EXTENSIVELY WORTHIES REVIEWED. ERIC HOLDER SAYS, NOT VERY. HOST: NOW TO THE DEMOCRATIC LINE,....
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| 00:09:57 |
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MORNING. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. HOW CAN CONGRESS TALK ABOUT ANYONE
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ELSE WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PROBLEMS? THEY CAN RAISE THEIR HANDS TO GO TO WAR AND SAY WHO THEY WILL PROTECT. THE SECOND QUESTION IS HOW THEY CAN PROTECT...
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| 00:10:37 |
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PLEDGE IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT. GUEST: CONGRESS HAS A CONSTITUTIONAL ROLE TO HAVE OVERSIGHT OVER THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH. AND PART OF
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THAT IS POLITICS AND THERE WILL ALWAYS BE DISAGREEMENT OVER THE EXERCISE OF THOSE POWERS. THAT GOES WITH THE TERRITORY. HOST: AND THE GROVER NORQUIST...
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| 00:11:06 |
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ASKING ABOUT CONGRESS MAKING THAT PLEDGE AND WHAT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT IT. YOU ARE A CONSERVATIVE WRITER AT TIMES THERE THERE'S A STORY IN THE NEW YORK...
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| 00:11:39 |
GUEST, -
FROM TAKING A HYPOTHETICAL POSITIONS. FOR EXAMPLE, DURING THE PRIMARY , THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES WERE ASKED IF THEY WOULD TAKE A DEAL FOR TAX CREDITS,...
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| 00:12:49 |
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FATHER WOULD HAVE HAD A HARD TIME FITTING IN DURING THE TEA PARTY ERA. HOST: IS THERE A DIVISION BETWEEN BUSH FAMILY VALUES AND THE TEA PARTY?
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| 00:13:14 |
HOST, -
GUEST: UNQUESTIONABLE. THE CONSENSUS IS THAT THE GEORGE W. BUSH ADMINISTRATION WENT ASTRAY
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| 00:13:22 |
GUEST, -
BY BEING TOO FREE WITH SPENDING. I DO NOT THINK THE CONTEMPORARY REPUBLICAN PARTY LOOKS FONDLY THE MEDICATION PRESCRIPTION DRUG BENEFIT THAT WAS ENACTED...
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| 00:13:56 |
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EVERYTHING THE GOVERNMENT GETS THE HANDS-ON GOES OUT OF
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| 00:14:02 |
CALLER, -
CONTROL. LOOK AT THE EDUCATION COSTS AND THE HEALTH-CARE COSTS AND WITH HOUSING. THERE IS A CONSPIRACY. THERE IS SOMETHING HIDDEN HERE. WHAT WOULD THEY...
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GUEST, -
IT. -- UNLESS THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF EVIDENCE SUPPORTING IT. A PATTERN OF EVIDENCE THAT WOULD SUPPORT GUN CONTROL. IT WAS NOT WELL THOUGHT THROUGH AT...
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| 00:15:23 |
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PHYSGUY. AUSTIN, D.C. -- WASHINGTON, D.C., GEORGE, WELCOME. CALLER: CONGRESS HAS A LEGITIMATE OVERSIGHT ROLE TO PLAY REGARDLESS OF THE ADMINISTRATION...
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CALLER, -
I WANTED TO ASK IF HE WAS FAMILIAR WITH A WRITER AT THE AMERICAN SPECTATOR AND IF YOU THE PERSON WAS. GUEST: I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT PERSON IS. I HAVE...
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GUEST, -
I USED TO SEE IT IN THE MAGAZINE. I READ HIM AT THE WEBSITE. HOST: WHY IS THAT SIGNIFICANT? GUEST: I HAVE NO IDEA.
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HOST, -
CAHOST: MATT SAYS
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GUEST, -
HE IS A LIBERTARIAN. CALLER: YOUR FIRST CALLER MAY POINT TO SAY -- THAT BRINGS UP THE GOOD POINTS.
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CALLER, -
THE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ARE BASICALLY THE SAME. THEY VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION AND OVER SPEND LIKE CRAZY. THE OPERATION WENT BAD. THEY BLAMED THE...
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| 00:17:34 |
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GUEST: MOST LIBERTARIANS ARE GOING TO BE APPALLED BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION'S RECORD ON EXPANDING THE SIZE OF
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GUEST, -
THE GOVERNMENT'S. . SOME LIBERTARIANS HAVE HIGH HOPES THAT IT WOULD OVERTURN SOME OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND WIND DOWN WARS IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ....
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| 00:18:34 |
HOST, -
AN INTERESTING ELECTION. THERE'S A KIND OF LACK OF ENTHUSIASM FOR ROMNEY
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| 00:18:41 |
GUEST, -
ON THE PART OF THE LIBERTARIANS AND THERE IS LESS ENTHUSIASM FOR OBAMA AMONG LEFT-WINNERS. -- WINGERS. HOST: WE'RE TALKING WITH E.J. DIONNE WHO WROTE...
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| 00:19:05 |
HOST, -
HIS BOOK. GUEST: I LOOKED OVER AND PROVIDED A BLURB. THERE'S A LOT I DISAGREE WITH THE THOUGHT
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GUEST, -
IT WAS AN INTERESTING AND THOUGHT- PROVOKING BOOK. HOST: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE POLITICAL DIVIDE? GUEST: I THINK WHEN PEOPLE TALK
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| 00:19:31 |
HOST, -
ABOUT INCREASED POLARIZATION IN AMERICAN POLITICS, THEY ARE REFERRING
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| 00:19:37 |
GUEST, -
TO IDEOLOGICAL SORTING OUT OF THE PARTIES. DEMOCRATS JOINED REPUBLICANS. LIBERAL REPUBLICANS BECAME A LIBERAL DEMOCRATS. THESE PARTIES HAVE NOW BECOME...
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| 00:20:43 |
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CALLER: THANK YOU FOR C-SPAN AND YOUR WONDERFUL GUEST. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HIM -- THERE
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| 00:20:55 |
CALLER, -
LIWHAT DID HE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION REFUSAL TO ANSWER SUBPOENAS FROM THE 9/11 COMMISSION, THEIR REFUSAL TO TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE...
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| 00:21:51 |
GUEST, -
WOULD BE A VERY EFFECTIVE SPOKESMAN FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. I'M NOT SURE THAT EVERYONE OF THE SEVERAL CONTROVERSIES THAT WERE JUST MENTIONED THERE...
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| 00:23:07 |
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NIGHT ABOUT THE WISCONSIN ELECTION. HOST: YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RECALL EVENT. WHAT TO YOU THINK THE
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| 00:23:33 |
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BIG MYTHS ARE THAT DEMOCRATS ARE PERPETRATING ABOUT THE ELECTION? GUEST: THE DEMOCRATS HAVE CONTROL RIGHT NOW. IT IS SORT OF A --
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GUEST, -
I THINK A LOT OF THE MYTHOLOGY ABOUT THIS RACE GOES UNDER THE HEADING OF EXCUSES FOR WHY THE LEFT LOST, WHY WALKER WAS RETAINED. I THINK THE PRINCIPLE...
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| 00:25:23 |
HOST, -
THEY PROBABLY WILL REVISIT CITIZENS UNITED. IT IS WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE COURT. DO YOU THINK THAT COULD BE A GAME CHANGER? GUEST: I DO NOT THINK...
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| 00:25:50 |
GUEST, -
ELECTION. ONE SAID THIS CAMPAIGN WAS JUST ABOUT MONEY. THE CITIZENS UNITED DECISION OF THE SUPREME COURT SUPPOSEDLY ON LEASUNLEASHED ALL OF THIS CAMPAIGN...
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| 00:26:52 |
HOST, -
CONSPIRACY THEORY BECOME A FACT? THIS GUN-RUNNING
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| 00:26:58 |
CALLER, -
THING BEGAN IN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. THE GOVERNMENT -- WE CAN FOLLOW 8 CONNECT THE DOTS ABOUT HOW MANY AIRPLANES CRASH WITH COCAINE IN THEM. TRY TO...
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| 00:28:01 |
HOST, -
A LONG RUNNING MISTAKE. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE
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GUEST, -
PUBLIC IN BOTH PARTIES HAVE SUPPORTED IT. IT IS BEING RETHOUGHT IN LATIN AMERICA. THERE'S BEEN A RETHINKING HE READ HOME ABOUT THE WAR ON DRUGS AS IT...
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| 00:28:46 |
HOST, -
CALLER: ANOTHER INNOVATION IS GOING ON IS THE REASON THAT ERIC HOLDER COULD TURN OVER SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS.
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CALLER, -
AND ANOTHER THING IS IT WAS OUT ALL AND TOBACCO AND FIREARMS AGENCY THAT WAS OVER THE GUN- RUNNING IN ARIZONA. AFALCOHOL AND TOBACCO FOUND OUT FIREARMS...
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| 00:30:04 |
GUEST, -
STARTED UNDER THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, SO WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL? LOOK, IF THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT MEMBERS OF THE BUSH JUSTICE DEPARTMENT KNEW THAT THE SAME...
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| 00:31:02 |
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GUEST: THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE TALKS ARE GOING WELL. IT IS NOT AS THOUGH THE SUBPOENAS WERE ISSUED TWO WEEKS
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| 00:31:34 |
GUEST, -
AGO. THE ADMINISTRATION HAS HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO COMPLY. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. MY 30 YEARS
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| 00:31:49 |
CALLER, -
OF MILITARY SERVICE TELLS ME HE IS PROBABLY GOING TO LIE ABOUT THIS QUESTION THE SAME AS HE LIED ABOUT WHEN IT STARTED. HOST: WHICH "HE" ARE YOU TALKING...
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| 00:32:08 |
HOST, -
GUEST. HE WAS FIRST ASKED AND DID NOT TELL THE TRUTH.
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| 00:32:14 |
CALLER, -
IT WAS THE SAME OPERATION AND HE KNOWS THAT. HE ALSO MENTIONED ABOUT THE CLOSING OF GUANTANAMO BAY. IS GITMO STILL OPEN BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT WANTS IT...
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| 00:32:51 |
HOST, -
THE ADMINISTRATION WAS NOT ABLE TO COME
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GUEST, -
UP WITH A WORKABLE ALTERNATIVE. THE CAMPAIGN RHETORIC DID NOT MAKE SENSE. HOST: DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THE ALLEGATIONS THAT HE SAID YOU WERE LYING?...
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| 00:33:14 |
HOST, -
UNDER THE GRIP OF A STRONG PARTISAN EMOTION. I HONOR
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| 00:33:21 |
GUEST, -
HIS SERVICE AS A VETERAN. HOST: KIM FROM HOUSTON, TEXAS. CALLER: HE WAS CALLED A LIAR.
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| 00:33:35 |
HOST, -
HE WAS NOT A LIAR.
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| 00:33:40 |
CALLER, -
THE SIDEWINDER OPERATION STARTED AND ENDED DURING THE BUSH ERA BECAUSE IT DID NOT WORK. FAST AND FURIOUS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. THAT WAS STATESIDE...
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| 00:34:35 |
GUEST, -
EXACT SAME OPERATION THAT HAPPENED. WE DID NOT HAVE AN ATF AGENT KILLED AND IT IS STILL A QUESTION OF WHAT DID THE TOP OFFICIALS KNOW. IF THEY DECIDED...
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| 00:35:15 |
HOST, -
THERE WAS A TWEET YESTERDAY -- HOW DO YOU READ THE TEA LEAVES AND GET A SENSE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AT THE SUPREME COURT? GUEST: THERE...
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| 00:35:45 |
GUEST, -
THE SUPREME COURT. SO THERE'S A RUMOR MILL. I TALKED TO PEOPLE NEAR THE SUPREME COURT. WE ALL WATCHED OR LISTENED TO THE ORAL ARGUMENTS. MY IMPRESSION...
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| 00:37:13 |
HOST, -
THAT KENNEDY WAS GOING TO VOTE TO STRIKE THE MANDATE DOWN BUT THAT ROBERTS WOULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE. IT
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GUEST, -
SEEMED HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT ROBERTS WOULD ALLOW A 5-4 SPLIT TO UPHOLD THE MANDATE. HOST: BARBER ON THE DEMOCRAT'S LINE -- BARBARA. GOOD MORNING.
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| 00:37:40 |
HOST, -
CALLER: I WOULD LIKE HIM TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY DID NOT GO BACK AND FIND OUT WHY BUSH WANTED TO GO TO WAR IN
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| 00:37:49 |
CALLER, -
IRAQ. THAT WAS A FAMILY DISPUTES. THEY HAD DONE NOTHING TO US. BUSH KNEW THEY DID NOT HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. I DO FEEL SORRY FOR THAT GUY THAT...
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| 00:38:49 |
GUEST, -
DESTRUCTION. THEY DECIDED TO GO TO WAR IN IRAQ HAS BEEN EXTENSIVELY LITIGATED AND NOBODY HAS TURNED UP THAT KIND OF EVIDENCE. AS FOR GROVER NORQUIST,...
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| 00:39:43 |
HOST, -
GUEST SOUNDS INTELLIGENT.
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| 00:39:47 |
CALLER, -
ERIC HOLDER WAS INVOLVED. -- OR SOMEHOW KNEW ABOUT THIS. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE INTENTION FOR FAST AND FURIOUS WAS TO IDENTIFY HOW GUNS WERE BEING SMUGGLED...
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| 00:41:02 |
HOST, -
THANK YOU FOR THE COMPLEMENT. I HAVE A PRETTY LOW
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| 00:41:09 |
GUEST, -
OPINION ERIC HOLDER AT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. I DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE THAT THEY WANTED WHAT HAPPENED TO BRIAN TERRY TO HAPPEN. IT WAS KIND OF TAKE HAIRBRAINED...
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| 00:43:23 |
HOST, -
DIONNE. HE HAS A NEW BOOK OUT, "OUR DIVIDED POLITICAL HEART." THEN WE'LL LOOK AT THE COMMODITY FUTURES TRADING COMMISSION WITH CHAIRMAN GARY GENSLER....
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| 00:43:48 |
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OTHER LOOK. TODAY'S MEETING BY THE GOVERNOR TASK FORCE ON CITIZENS' SAFETY AND PROTECTION WILL TAKE PLACE A FEW MILES FROM WHERE TRAYVON MARTIN WAS KILLED....
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