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Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
BEING USED DOMESTICALLY? HARLEY GEIGER JOINS US NOW. IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN HOW THESE DRONES ARE BEING USED. GUEST: THEY ARE BEING USED IN A VARIETY OF...
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| 00:00:34 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
HELPING POLICE TRACKED DOWN FUGITIVES THAT HAVE RECENTLY ESCAPED. THERE IS A FAIR NUMBER OF CONCERNING USES SUCH AS SCOUTING A PROPERTY BEFORE RATE...
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| 00:01:43 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
MAGAZINE. HOST: WE HAVE A PICTURE FROM THE DAILY MAIL TALKING ABOUT SOME OF
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| 00:02:11 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
THESE DOMESTIC DRONES. THAT'S THE DRONE THAT IS USED OVERSEAS. THIS IS THE DRAGON FIRE, ABOUT 2.2 POUNDS . THEY ARE USED AS WELL. THESE ARE WHAT THEY...
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| 00:02:53 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
THEY CAN BE AS SMALL AS STATE CELL PHONE OR AS LARGE AS A CARRIER JET OR A CARGO JET. THERE'S A HUGE VARIETY OF DRONES. ON VALENTINE'S DAY, THE FAA MODERNIZATION...
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| 00:05:58 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
YOU JUST RUN UBROUGHT UP. [VIDEO CLIP] >> I HAVE GREAT CONCERN ABOUT PRIVACY ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, NOT JUST ABOUT DRONES. WE'VE LOST SEVERAL
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| 00:06:14 |
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LIBERTIES BASED ON OUR NEED FOR SECURITY. I THINK WE'RE GIVING UP OUR SECURITY DESPITE THE FACT WE'RE MAKING MORE PEOPLE ANGRY AT US ALL OVER THE WORLD....
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| 00:07:35 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
HE SAID. [VIDEO CLIP] >> I THINK DRONES ARE A LEGITIMATE FORM OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY
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IF YOU ARE IN THE OPEN. THERE IS NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY. DRONES CAN SPOT THINGS THAT ARE IN A CROWD AND ALONG THE BORDER TO SPOT ILLEGALS COMING ACROSS...
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| 00:08:24 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
GUEST: I DO BELIEVE WHAT REPRESENTATIVE KING THAT THERE ARE MANY POSITIVE USES FOR DRONES.
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| 00:08:34 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
I THINK THAT THE LAW IS OUTDATED AND INADEQUATE AND THAT IT MUST CHANGE. A NIGHTMARE FOR CIVIL LIBERTIES WOULD BE TO HAVE A NETWORK OF DRONES THAT MONITORED...
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| 00:09:20 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE, 202-737- 0002. ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE, 202- 628-0205. MIKE IS WAITING ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE. YOU ARE ON. CALLER: GOOD MORNING,...
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| 00:09:44 |
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HAS BEEN POSITIONING TO HAVE OVER 30,000 OF THESE IN THE SKIES. YOU DO THE MATH. THAT'S 900, 800 -- MANY DRONES WILL BE IN THE SKY IN. THERE'S A CONTROVERSY...
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| 00:11:11 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
THE 30,000 NUMBER WAS LOOSE ESTIMATE BY THE FAA. THE PROJECT
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| 00:11:22 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
THERE WILL BE 30,000 BY 2020. THAT IS A PRETTY STAGGERING NUMBER. HE REFERENCE THE AVAILABILITY OF TRAFFIC CAMERAS. I WOULD COUNTER PETER KING WITH THIS...
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| 00:12:35 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
YOU CAN SEE IT HERE. GUEST: I BELIEVE THIS IS A MAP -- I REFERENCE THE PRIVACY GROUP THAT HAD SUED THE
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| 00:12:49 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
FAA UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. THEY PUT TOGETHER THIS MAP WHICH SHOWS THE INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE LOCATED THAT HAVE DRONE CERTIFICATES. THE...
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| 00:14:00 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
GUEST: THERE IS A DISTINCTION BETWEEN CERTAIN AIRCRAFT AND DRONES.
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| 00:14:08 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
YOU CAN GO ON TO AMAZON.COM AND PURCHASE A DRONE FOR $300 AND YOU CAN FLY THIS WITHOUT A LICENSE. THAT IS STAGGERING THAT YOU CAN BUY ONE ONLINE. IT HAS...
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CALLER, -
OF C- SPAN AND "WASHINGTON JOURNAL." THERE ARE SO MANY ISSUES. THEY DO NOT DOUBT THAT THE ISSUE OF DRONES WILL ONE DAY END UP -- THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WILL...
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| 00:18:26 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
AMERICANS. THIS RELATES TO WHAT THE FIRST CALLER HAD TO SAY.
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| 00:18:31 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
DRONE'S ALREADY BEING USED TO LOOK AT ORDINARY AMERICANS. THEY'RE NOT JUST BEING USED ON THE BORDER OR OVERSEAS. WE HAVE SEEN AN ARREST THAT MADE USE...
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| 00:22:34 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
BULLETS AND TEAR GAS IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY IN TEXAS. THAT SHOULD BE PROHIBITED,
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| 00:22:41 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
IN MY VIEW. I THINK THAT THAT CAN BE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS FOR CIVIL LIBERTIES. I THINK THAT IT EDGES INTO A LINE THAT WE SHOULD NOT CROSS. HOST: YOU MENTIONED...
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| 00:23:06 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
HAVE THAT LETTER FOR YOU. YOU CAN ALSO FIND IT ON THEIR WEBSITES. TWO SENTENCES FROM TIT -- HOST: THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE. WE WILL GO TO ROBERT ON THE...
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| 00:23:41 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
AND TECHNOLOGY. CALLER: HOSTI HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS PROGRAM AND HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, CAMERAS AND SO FORTH.
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CALLER, -
THERE'S A LOT OF ARGUMENT AND DIFFERENT THEORIES ABOUT 9/11. CALL IT WHICHEVER YOU WILL. I'VE SEEN AN EROSION OF AMERICAN RIGHTS ONE BY ONE. IF YOU LOOK...
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| 00:24:55 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
IN OTHER PEOPLE THINK THAT IS VERY KOOKY.
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| 00:25:00 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
I DON'T THINK THERE IS A CONSPIRACY TO BRING US TOWARDS A TOTALITARIAN STATE. WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE WORLD WILL BE LIKE IN 20 TO 50 YEARS. A LOSS PRIVACY...
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| 00:25:41 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
FAR? GUEST: NO. DRONES CAN HAVE A LOT OF THE BENEFICIAL USES
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| 00:25:50 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
AND THEY ARE BEING USED FOR A LOT BENEFICIAL WAYS. THERE IS A LOT GREAT USES. CINEMATOGRAPHER RATE AND SCOUTING WILDFIRES -- WE NEED TO BUILD AND PRIVACY...
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| 00:26:26 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
WRITING. HOST: IF YOU FOLKS GOING IN FAVOR OF DOMESTIC USE. JAY FROM ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI.
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| 00:27:06 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
CALLER: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. IS THAT A PRIVATE COMPANY?
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CALLER, -
GUEST: WE ARE A NONPROFIT. CALLER: WHO FINDS YOUR COPY?
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| 00:27:24 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
GUEST: WE TAKE ABOUT 50% IN
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CALLER, -
PRIVATE GRANTS AND DONATIONS. THE OTHER 50% COMES FROM
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| 00:27:34 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
PRIVATE SECTOR SOURCES, INCLUDING PRIVATE MONEY. CALLER: I CAN SEE WHERE THESE DRONES WOULD BE GOOD ALONG THE BORDER. THIS PRIVATIZATION OF AMERICA,
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THESE CONTRACTORS ARE GETTING SO GREEDY. THIS IS A PLOY TO TAKE AWAY THE MILITARY AND TO KEEP FINDING MONEY TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO -- TO THE PRIVATE...
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| 00:29:29 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
FROM HELICOPTERS BUT A BIG DIFFERENCE IS THAT AS YOU SUGGESTED, THEY ARE A LOT CHEAPER. THEY CAN BE GIVEN TO MANY DIFFERENT PARTIES. THE ANALOGY IS...
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| 00:30:23 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
IF YOU'RE NOT INTO ANY CROOKED STUFF, YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
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IF YOU'RE AN EVERYDAY PERSON, YOU JUST DOES EVERYTHING AND OBEYS THE LAW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY PROBLEMS. I FEEL THAT IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING...
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| 00:30:57 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
CONTROL AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT YOU CAN USE THAT INFORMATION TO MAKE DECISION ABOUT YOUR LIFE THAT -- THAT YOU MAY NOT NECESSARILY...
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| 00:32:13 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
I WOULD LIKE TO -- THIS TECHNOLOGY IS KIND OF TERMINATETOR
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CALLER, -
STYLE TECHNOLOGY. IT'S VERY FRIGHTENING TO ME. I WAS WONDERING WHAT'S THE LEGALITIES SHOOTING ONE OF THESE THINGS DOWN? IS THAT SOMETHING ALLOWABLE...
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| 00:33:04 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
ONE OF THESE THINGS IS GOING TO BE A HERO. THAT ACTUALLY PROMPTED A RESPONSE FROM THE ASSOCIATION OF UNMANNED VEHICLES INTERNATIONAL. HOST: WE HAD THAT...
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| 00:33:23 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
SHOT DOWN FROM U.S. AIR SPACE IS IRRESPONSIBLE. MONITOR WEATHER AND WILDLIFE PROVIDE DISASTER RELIEF AND RESPOND TO EMERGENCIES AS THEY DID IN THE...
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| 00:34:02 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
WAS IN TEXAS. THERE WAS A GROUP OF HUNTERS THAT SHOT DOWN THE DRONE OF AN ANIMAL RIGHTS GROUP. IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. THIS IS ALMOST CERTAINLY ILLEGAL....
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| 00:35:35 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
FROM FAIRFAX, VIRGINIA. YOU'RE ON THE HAIR NICK. CALLER: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. I WAS GOING TO CALL AND SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PRIVACY...
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ONE OF THE CALLERS MENTIONED NOT HAVING CONCERN ABOUT THE DRONES. THEY COULD CATCH A COUPLE LADIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUNBATHING. THEN THERE'S ALSO A...
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| 00:36:47 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
YOU CAN GO
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| 00:36:53 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
TO AMAZON.COM. YOU PROBABLY AWARE THAT THE FAIRFAX POLICE DEPARTMENT IS INTERESTED IN PURCHASING A DRONE. THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE NEWS RECENTLY TALKING...
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| 00:38:48 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HIDE, YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE TO WORRY. THAT'S PART OF ME THAT AGREES
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CALLER, -
WITH THAT. BUT, I ALSO THINK THAT WE SHOULD THINK MORE CAREFULLY ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS BECAUSE YOUR GUEST HAD A VERY GOOD POINT ABOUT, THEY DON'T KNOW...
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| 00:40:13 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
THIS SPECIFIC SUBJECT? GUEST: PRECEDENCE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. THERE ARE SEVERAL LEGISLATIVE SUGGESTIONS THAT
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| 00:40:22 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
ARE OUT THERE. THE ACLU HAS ONE ALSO. THE CIVIL LIBERTY GROUPS ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH CONGRESS TO COME UP WITH A SET OF GUIDELINES. HOST: LOOKING...
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| 00:40:44 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
ISSUES? GUEST: YES. WHETHER OR NOT ENOUGH MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WILL TAKE ACTION AND VIEW PRIVACY AS A PRIORITY FOR THEM, I
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| 00:40:51 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
THINK AS I TRIED TO INDICATE EARLIER IS LARGELY UP TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. IT IS UP TO THEM AND MAKE IT A PRIORITY. SOMEBODY MENTIONED TALKING ABOUT...
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| 00:42:21 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
THANKS FOR CALLING IN. CALLER: YES, HELLO. MY BIG QUESTION IS, IN CONTINUING THIS ACT IN
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1993 NOW UNDER THE FEMA HOMELAND SECURITY ACT, A LOT OF THESE DRONES BEING DISTRIBUTED IN THE UNITED STATES ORIGINALLY OKAY BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT....
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| 00:43:46 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
OF DEMOCRATIC ACTION IS ONE REASON WHY PRIVACY ACTION SHOULD BE BUILT INTO DRONES.
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| 00:43:52 |
Geiger, Harley - Senior Counsel
THE ACTION THAT YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT IS REALLY GOING TO OPEN UP THE DOOR TO RATHER DARK AGE OF SURVEILLANCE AROUND THE...
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| 00:44:28 |
McArdle, John - Guest Host
NEXT, WE'LL HAVE HAVE A DISCUSSION -- WE BEGIN A LIFELONG AGENCY INCLUDING A LOOK AT THE SECURITY AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION WITH A FORMER CHAIRMAN HARVEY...
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.