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THIS PROGRAM AGAIN, NOTE THAT OUR COVERAGE WILL REAIR AT 11 P.M. CENTRAL ON SATURDAY AND MIDNIGHT CENTRAL ON SUNDAY. BOOKS CAN BE PURCHASED IN THE...
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| 00:01:20 |
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TODAY THAT DESERVE A DAY APIECE OF CONVERSATION, AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO SOME MEASURE OF JUSTICE TO THEM IN JUST 45 MINUTES. I'M DOUGLAS FOSTER,...
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| 00:06:02 |
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THIS. THE TOOLS ARE THERE. THE INSTITUTIONS HAVE BEEN BUILT. THE TRANSFORMATION HAS TAKEN PLACE OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. WE HAVE A DIFFERENT WORLD NOW...
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| 00:09:44 |
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PROCESS OF RECOVERING FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF GREAT TRAUMAS OF THE KIND THE AMBASSADOR HAS JUST BEEN TALKING ABOUT. YOUR COLLABORATOR SURVIVED TERRIBLE...
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| 00:10:35 |
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ASKED MY COLLABORATOR WHAT HE THOUGHT WE SHOULD DO IN SYRIA, AND HE SAID, I DON'T KNOW. AND I SAID, ARE YOU FOLLOWING THE NEWS IN SYRIA IN AND HE ...
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| 00:11:45 |
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JULIA, TO READ, READ FROM YOUR BOOK, PAGE 56, A SECTION THERE AS A WAY, IN EFFECT, TO HAVE YOUR BOOK POSE A QUESTION TO THE AMBASSADOR. >> THANK YOU....
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| 00:12:04 |
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AT A CONCENTRATION CAMP CALLED DREDEL, AND THE MEN WERE HORDED INTO METAL HANGARS. AND ONE DAY THE GUARDS JUST DECIDED TO SHOOT AT RANDOM INTO THE...
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| 00:15:42 |
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E.U. AND OTHERS TOOK SO LONG TO ACT, AND WHAT ARE THE LESSONS OF THE FAILURE TO ACT? >> RIGHT. WELL, I DO DISCUSS SOME OF THAT IN MY BOOK WITH. I...
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| 00:15:56 |
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THE YUGOSLAV WAR CRIMES TRIBUNAL, BUT THEY ALSO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE OF THE FAILURE TO INTERVENE MILITARILY IN 1992, '93, '94 AND NOT UNTIL MID 1995...
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| 00:21:12 |
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READ AN EXCERPT, AND WE SHIFT CONTINUE INNOCENTS A BIT. SO -- CONTINENTS A BIT. SO IF YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT THE SET UP FOR THIS EXCERPT,...
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| 00:21:37 |
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YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SPRING OF 1994 AND WHY DID THE UNITED STATES NOT IMMEDIATELY OR WITHIN A FEW WEEKS RESPOND MILITARILY TO THE SITUATION...
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| 00:22:06 |
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OF ABOUT 100 DAYS COMMENCING
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| 00:22:09 |
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ON APRIL 6, 1994, AN ESTIMATED 800,000 WOMEN, CHILDREN AND MEN -- MOST OF TUTSI IDENTITY -- WERE MASSACRED. THAT AVERAGES 8,000 MURDERS PER DAY. THE...
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| 00:26:13 |
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NOW TREATS OTHERS VICTIMIZED BY ATROCITY CRIMES. I'M WONDERING WHAT RAN THROUGH YOUR MIND AS YOU LISTENED TO THE AMBASSADOR READ THAT KIND OF ANGUISH...
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| 00:26:41 |
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EVER. UM, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A TESTAMENT TO THE COURAGE OF SOMEONE WHO -- I HOPE I'M NOT EMBARRASSING -- IS WILLING TO GO ON TO FIGHT FOR HUMAN RIGHTS...
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| 00:27:46 |
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YOUR, MORE EFFECTIVE ACTION IN RWANDA, BOSNIA, ELSEWHERE. I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN BRING US UP-TO-DATE. YOU'RE PRETTY HARD ON THE FRENCH, YOU'RE PRETTY...
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| 00:28:20 |
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UM, IT'S ALWAYS DIPLOMATICALLY DIFFERENT TO NAME THE COUNTRY WITH WHICH YOU ARE FRUSTRATED. BUT IN THE BOOK I DO WRITE ABOUT THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT,...
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| 00:33:45 |
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IS NOT A PARTY? AND, THEREFORE, EXPECTS, FOR EXAMPLE, AFRICAN GOVERNMENTS WHICH ARE SIGNATORIES TO ABIDE BY ITS RULINGS BUT WILL NOT SUBJECT ITSELF TO...
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| 00:34:01 |
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ULTIMATELY RATIFYING THE ROME STATUTE. I'VE RUN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT ABOUT THIS. THERE'S A BIT ABOUT THIS IN THE BOOK. UM, AND THERE ARE LOTS OF REASONS...
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| 00:35:45 |
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TRAUMA THAT THE AMBASSADOR HAS JUST BEEN DESCRIBING. UM, I WAS STRUCK BY THE NATURE OF YOUR PROJECT. IT WASN'T A BOOK THAT YOU WENT LOOKING FOR, FOR...
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| 00:36:34 |
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HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE KIND OF TRAUMA THAT ASSAD ENDURED NEED TO HAVE A SENSE OF CONTROL AGAIN. THEY'VE BEEN DENIED CONTROL. THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO TELL...
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| 00:39:17 |
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AND WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT, I WANT JUST TO MAKE SURE, ARE THERE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR EACH OTHER BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WE'VE JUST HAD? >>...
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| 00:39:33 |
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THE INDIVIDUALS WITH WHOM YOU FOLKED ON IN THIS -- YOU FOCUSED ON IN THIS BOOK? I KNOW ASSAD IS PART OF THAT PICTURE, BUT HOW DID YOU MAKE THAT JUDGMENT...
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| 00:39:53 |
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STORY. UM, THE COURT IN SIERRA LEONE MIGHT INTEREST YOU. I TALKED TO THE PSYCHOLOGICAL STAFF THERE WHICH WAS JUST EXCELLENT. THESE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE...
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| 00:40:33 |
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JULIA.
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| 00:40:34 |
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AMBASSADOR, I WANTED TO ADDRESS YOU
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| 00:40:36 |
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FIRST. I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THE WORK THAT YOU DO. AND FOR ENDURING THE FRUSTRATION AND THE AGGRAVATION THAT IT MUST TAKE TO KEEP...
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| 00:41:20 |
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| 00:41:21 |
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CRONYISM. AND ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT SUCH A BAD GUY, LET'S, YOU KNOW, LET'S GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO FIX THINGS. >> UH-HUH. >> ARE WE ACTUALLY TAKING...
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| 00:41:36 |
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WAY TO REALLY, YOU
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| 00:41:38 |
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KNOW, USE THE POWER OF THE PERSONAL CHARISMA OF OUR LEADERS TO REALLY MAKE A PERSONAL IMPACT ON THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE SO CONCERNED ABOUT? >> RIGHT. ...
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| 00:41:57 |
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CRIMES. IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY PRESIDENT CLINTON ACTUALLY CREATED FOR THE FIRST TIME THE AMBASSADOR AT LARGE FOR WAR CRIMES ISSUES, BECAUSE HE...
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| 00:43:42 |
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SHOULD MOVE TOWARDS RATIFICATION OF THE ROME STATUTE, SO I HAVE A TWO-PART QUESTION FOR YOU. ONE, UM, FOLLOWING THE ROME CONFERENCE IN 1998 YOU IN YOUR...
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| 00:44:09 |
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THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT NOW TEN YEARS AFTER ITS
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| 00:44:11 |
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ACTUAL FOUNDING. AND THEN, ALSO, UM, DO
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| 00:44:14 |
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YOU BELIEVE
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| 00:44:16 |
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THAT NON-MEMBERSHIP OR NON-PARTY STATUS UNDERMINES THE EFFECTIVENESS? >> SURE. FIRST, THE ANSWER TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, A LOT OF THAT ANSWER IN THE...
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| 00:44:28 |
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WAS UNDER INSTRUCTION AT THE LAST DAY OF THE ROME CONFERENCE NOT TO VOTE FOR THE FINAL TEXT OF THE TREATY. AND THERE'S A WHOLE STORY ABOUT THAT IN THE...
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| 00:46:18 |
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UM, I WAS SO HAPPY TO BE ON THIS PANEL BECAUSE I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COURTS, AND WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT TRAUMA. AND I'LL JUST...
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| 00:46:29 |
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THAT WHEN ASSAD AND I WENT TO THE HAGUE, THE YUGOSLAV TRIBUNAL, TWO MAJOR WAR CRIMINALS WERE STILL, WERE STILL AT LARGE, AND HE WAS VERY FRUSTRATED...
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| 00:47:23 |
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GOTTEN A TASTE
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| 00:47:24 |
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IN THE WAY IN WHICH THEY TALK TO EACH OTHER AND THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE. THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK...
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| 00:47:42 |
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A MEMBER OF PRINTER'S ROW -- [INAUDIBLE] >> WE'LL BE BACK WITH MORE FROM THE PRINTERS ROW LIT FEST IN JUST
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