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OF MY FIRST YEAR AS DEAN. I WAS FIRST MADE A PROFESSOR OF LAW 28 YEARS AGO, AND I ENTERED LAW SCHOOL IN THE AUTUMN OF 1973. AS A RESULT YOU CAN INFER...
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RONDELL LUM. THE JUDGE SAID I WILL HEAR IT AS SOON AS THE WAR STARTS. THAT WAS GULF WAR NUMBER ONE. PERHAPS I'M BEING A LITTLE UNFAIR. I HOPE NOT....
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AND THE LAW SCHOOL IN GENERAL. OVER THE LAST YEAR YOU'VE BEEN INCREDIBLY GENEROUS WITH YOUR TIME AND AN INCREDIBLE ASSET TO THE SCHOOL AND ITS STUDENTS....
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| 00:23:50 |
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TAPED. SCOTT'S THE GUY WHO THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE TAPING. ALEX IS THE GUY WHO KNEW THERE WAS TAPING. THEY HAVE BEEN TOGETHER ONCE BEFORE ALMOST 40...
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UCLA AND HAD TWO VERY
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BAD YEARS AND THEN WENT INTO THE AIR FORCE AND EVERYONE SAID
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YOU'LL NEVER CONTINUE, HAVING DROPPED OUT OF SCHOOL. I DID, THANKS TO THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND WHICH IS NOW WORLDWIDE. I WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF ...
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INFERIOR WAY
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TO CATALOG THE WORLD, SECOND RAEFT EP PIFT MOLG. SO I QUIT AND GOT INVOLVED IN CORRECTIONAL REFORM, REFORM OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND WAS RUNNING...
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| 00:27:35 |
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OF OUR GUESTS, I NOTICED ON THE MASTER SHEET IT KIND OF BALANCES OUT. ALEX, TELL US AFTER THE SERVICE -- AS I RECALL IN THE SERVICE AT ONE POINT,...
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| 00:28:18 |
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AND THE POLICY DIVISION OF WAR PLANS IN AIR FORCE HEADQUARTERS IN THE PENTAGON. AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER, WITHIN ABOUT SIX MONTHS I WAS CALLED DOWN TO...
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| 00:30:23 |
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MY SPECIFIC JOB, I WAS A MILITARY ASSISTANT TO THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, JOE CAL FAN
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| 00:30:29 |
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KNOW, FOR WHITE HOUSE MATTERS. I WAS FREQUENTLY OVER THERE. JOE SAID, EVERY TIME THE SECRETARY GOES TO THE WHITE HOUSE, YOU GO WITH HIM, EVEN IF YOU...
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| 00:31:19 |
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JOHNSON A LITTLE BIT AND ALL THE KEY PEOPLE. THEN JOE HIMSELF
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| 00:31:24 |
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WAS PICKED UP. JOHNSON CALLED McNAMARA ONE DAY AND SAID WHO IS DOING ALL THIS GOOD WORK. ACTUALLY HAGUE AND I WERE DOING ALL THE GOOD WORK. HE...
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| 00:32:05 |
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WOULD INFLUENCE A LOT OF YOUR LIFE AND YOU PROBABLY SOME OF HIS LIFE. WOULD YOU DESCRIBE TO THIS GROUP WHO THAT PERSON IS AND WHAT THAT INFLUENCE...
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| 00:32:25 |
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FOCUSED ON COLLEGE. BOB GOT ME INTERESTED IN THE IVY LEAGUE AND ENCOURAGED ME TO COME TO YALE WHERE HE HAD GONE. I GOT MARRIED WHEN I WAS 17 YEARS...
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| 00:33:02 |
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PANTHER, WEARING AN AFRO OUT TO HERE, SOME VERY SERIOUS MUTTON CHOPS, MUSTACHE, A LITTLE DIFFERENT VIEW OF HIS APPEARANCE IN THOSE DAYS. >> OVER ONE...
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| 00:33:24 |
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ABOUT THIS FELLOW NAMED JOHN DEAN WHO WAS THE EMBODIMENT OF EVIL AT THIS POINT BECAUSE HE WAS WORKING ON BEHALF OF JOHN MITCHELL. HE WAS VERY LOYAL TO...
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| 00:34:32 |
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IN AUSTRALIA. I WAS WHAT THE -- I WAS A
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| 00:34:36 |
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SENIOR U.S. MILITARY OFFICER IN AUSTRALIA BY VIRTUE OF BEING THE SINK PACK REPRESENTATIVE, SINK PACK REP AUST IS WHAT THE NAVY CALLS IT. THE COMMANDER...
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NOT. >> OKAY. ON THE RECORD. >> WOULD HE TELL US IF HE WAS? >> I'D
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HAVE
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| 00:36:01 |
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TO KILL YOU. BUT THERE WERE ACTUALLY
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| 00:36:04 |
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22 DEFENSE DEPARTMENTS ACTIVITIES WHICH I SORT OF
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| 00:36:08 |
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OVERSAW. I DIDN'T COMMAND ANYTHING. BUT IN AUSTRALIA THERE WERE 22 D.O.D. ACTIVITIES. AND WE HAD ABOUT 600 AMERICAN TROOPS THERE. I WAS DESPERATE IF...
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| 00:37:37 |
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US, ALSO N A SUMMARY OVERVIEW OF WHAT YOU WOULD DO WHEN YOU
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| 00:37:40 |
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ARRIVED AFFIDAVIT THE WHITE HOUSE. >> IT ALL WORKED
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| 00:37:44 |
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OUT WITH HALDEMAN AND I WAS CALLED IN THERE, AND I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO HAVE A MILITARY JOB. I FOUND OUT AT THE LAST
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| 00:37:51 |
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MINUTE I WASN'T. SO I LEFT THE MILITARY. IT WAS MY OWN CHOICE TO LEAVE, BUT I FELT IT WAS TRADITION ANYWAY, IF I WAS GOING TO BE IN A POLICY-MAKING...
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| 00:39:01 |
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ALL, IT WASN'T THE RIGHT TIME. HALDEMAN WAS WAITING FOR THIS RIGHT TIME. BUT HE SUDDENLY HAD TO GO TO CALIFORNIA. HIS WIFE
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| 00:39:09 |
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WAS SELLING THEIR CALIFORNIA HOUSE OR SOMETHING. AND HE CAME IN BREATHLESSLY TO ME AND SAID WE'VE GOT TO GO SEE THE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW, GOT TO INTRODUCE...
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| 00:39:26 |
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BE JUST TO SAY HELLO TO THE PRESIDENT AND TELL HIM HOW HONORED I WAS TO BE THERE. SO WE RUSH IN, SORT OF OUT OF BREATH. NIXON DID GET UP FROM HIS DESK...
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| 00:41:09 |
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I THOUGHT HE WAS IN DEEP THOUGHTS. YOU'RE SAYING THAT ISN'T THE CASE. SCOTT, WHAT WERE YOU DOING WHEN ALEX WAS HEADING TOWARDS THE WHITE HOUSE? >> WELL,...
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| 00:41:29 |
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DOWN MAJOR INSTITUTIONS. THIS IS BEFORE WATERGATE AND BEFORE I GOT IN THE BUSINESS OF PUTTING MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY INTO PRISON. >> STAYING...
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| 00:41:44 |
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THERE WAS A TIME AS WATERGATE WAS BREAKING OPEN AND WE KNEW IT
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| 00:41:47 |
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WAS BREAKING OPEN BECAUSE McCHORD, ONE OF THE BURGLARS WHO HAD BEEN THE CHIEF OF SECURITY AND A FORMER CIA PERSON HAD WRITTEN A LETTER TO THE JUDGE....
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| 00:42:52 |
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FUNDAMENTAL FACT OUT FOR THE AUDIENCE? >> LARRY HIGBY WAS BOB HALDEMAN'S STAFF ASSISTANT. BOFB HAD THREE STAFF ASSISTANTS. WE CALLED IT THE BEAVER PATROL....
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| 00:43:05 |
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ALL LITTLE GUYS, YOUNG -- I DON'T MEAN LITTLE IN STATURE, BUT I MEAN YOUNG, 23, 24. AND LARRY WAS SORT OF THE MAIN GUY. HE WAS HALDEMAN'S CLOSEST...
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| 00:44:27 |
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IT'S BECAUSE THE EARLIER SYSTEM OF STAFF KEEPING UP WITH THEIR REPORTS TO THE PRESIDENT'S FILE ABOUT
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| 00:44:34 |
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THEIR MEETINGS BROKE DOWN? DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? >> I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT, IF THAT HAPPENED, NO. >> IT DID. >> THE WAY IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME...
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| 00:44:47 |
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HAPPEN. >> WE HAD
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| 00:44:50 |
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A POSTAL STRIKE, AND I HEARD THE PRESIDENT SAY, IT'S TOO BAD THAT WHEN WE
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| 00:44:53 |
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| 00:44:54 |
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HAD THAT POSTAL STRIKE AND WE SOLVED IT SO
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| 00:44:58 |
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WELL. WE BROUGHT PEOPLE IN, THE CABINET MEMBERS CAME IN. EVERYONE CONTRIBUTED TO THE SOLUTION. IT'S TOO DAMN BAD WE HADN'T RECORDED ALL OF THAT ONE...
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| 00:46:29 |
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DON'T HAVE THE MILITARY DO IT. THE MILITARY COULD HAVE DONE IT. THERE'S AWAKA WHICH IS RIGHT THERE IN THE
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| 00:46:35 |
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WHITE HOUSE, WHITE HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS AGENCY IS WHAT WACA STANDS FOR, RUN BY AN ARMY THREE-STAR GENERAL. LOTS OF MILITARY AROUND THE WHITE HOUSE...
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| 00:47:01 |
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THE MILITARY. SOME PEOPLE DO. THE MILITARY WILL SCREW IT UP. THAT
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| 00:47:06 |
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WAS THE INTIMATION. ANOTHER THING, IT IS TRUE THAT THE MILITARY GUYS CAN BE TRANSFERRED, AND WE DIDN'T WANT ANYONE TO KNOW THIS. THE SECRET SERVICE...
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| 00:47:55 |
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PRESIDENT'S OFFICE THEY PUT
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| 00:47:57 |
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MICROPHONES TON MANTLE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY. UP ON THE MANTLE, I GUESS THERE WERE LITTLE LAMPS, IN THE BASE OF THE LAMPS. IN HIS OFFICE THEY DRILLED...
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| 00:48:39 |
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OVAL OFFICE. >> AND IT WAS VOICE ACTIVATED. >> WHY WAS IT VOICE ACTIVATED? >> THEY JUST DECIDED -- I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. THEY PUT IT
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| 00:48:47 |
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IN. WHEN THEY PUT IT IN -- >>
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| 00:48:49 |
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IT WASN'T BECAUSE NO ONE THOUGHT NIXON COULD HIT
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| 00:48:52 |
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THE SWITCH AT THE RIGHT TIME WITHOUT BEING CONSPICUOUS? >> THAT MAKES A GOOD STORY AND
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| 00:48:57 |
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THAT WOULD BE TRUE. THAT WOULD BE TRUE. >> THE LOCATIONS. SO THE OVAL OFFICE -- >>
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| 00:49:03 |
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THE OVAL OFFICE, I GUESS
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| 00:49:07 |
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THE CABINET ROOM OR WAS LATER. I'M NOT SURE. THE CABINET ROOM, THERE WAS A SWITCH UNDER HERE
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| 00:49:14 |
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THAT CALLED THE PEOPLE FROM THE STAFF MESS TO COME UP AND BRING COFFEE. WE JUST PUT A HALDEMAN AND BUTTERFIELD BUTTON. I FORGET WHETHER, WHICH TURNED...
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| 00:49:46 |
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I WAS CABINET SECRETARY AND THAT WAS
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| 00:49:49 |
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ANOTHER ONE OF MY DUTYIESDUTIES. WHEN THEY BROUGHT THE PRESIDENT IN AND THEY ANNOUNCED HIM EVEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE PRESIDENT...
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| 00:50:18 |
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ALL PRESIDENT HAVE
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| 00:50:20 |
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AN OFFICE IN THE EXECUTIVE BUILDING. A BIG OFFICE, SITTING ROOM, PRIVATE LIBRARY, AND THAT WORKED THE SAME WAY. >> NONE THE RESIDENTS? >> RIGHT. UPSTAIRS...
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| 00:50:40 |
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41 YEARS SINCE WE PUT THAT IN.
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| 00:50:42 |
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OVER IN THE SITTING ROOM WHERE THE PRESIDENT SPENT A LOT OF HIS TIME ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE RESIDENCE THERE WAS A TAPE ON THAT TELEPHONE, AND ALL...
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| 00:52:14 |
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DAVID. THE PRESIDENT SAID, DON'T TELL
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| 00:52:18 |
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HALDEMAN. I HAD NO IDEA WHY. >> HOW MANY KNEW ABOUT THE SYSTEM? >> I THINK ABOUT SEVEN. THE PRESIDENT, HIGBEE AND I AND LATER I
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| 00:52:28 |
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HAD
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| 00:52:30 |
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HALDEMAN'S PERMISSION TO TELL MY SECRETARY, VERY TRUSTED PERSON, ONE OF FIVE SECRETARIES CLEARED TO GO WITH THE PRESIDENT TO CAMP DAVID. TONI SYDLY,...
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| 00:53:08 |
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WATERGATE COMMITTEE? JUST TO KIND OF ROUND OUT THIS INTRODUCTION? >> WELL, RATHER THAN GO BACK TO BOSTON AND BECOME A DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF CORRECTIONS,...
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| 00:53:21 |
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FELLOWS WOODWARD AND BURNSTEIN TO HELP THEM WRITE A BOOK "THE FINAL DAYS" THAT THROWED A JOB IN TWITH "THE WASHINGTON POST." AND TOOK ME OUT TO MY FINAL...
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| 00:53:48 |
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ACCOUNT WITH SOME DISPUTE FROM THE NIXON PEOPLE ABOUT WHETHER HE WAS TALKING PORTRAITS THE FINAL DAYS OR NOT AS HE ROAMED AROUND THE WHITE HOUSE. HOW...
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| 00:54:16 |
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BUT WE GOT AS MANY DOCUMENTS AS WE COULD, AND WE BASICALLY RECONSTRUCTED. IT WAS MUCH LIKE THE WATERGATE INVESTIGATION BECAME AFTER -- A RECONSTRUCTION...
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| 00:54:47 |
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COURT LIKE NO BOOK HAS EVER DONE BEFORE OR SINCE. I HAPPENED TO RE-READ THE MATERIAL ON U.S. VERSUS NIXON. THE CASE. IT IS A BLOW-BY-BLOW DESCRIPTION....
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| 00:55:33 |
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LOT. NO. I WAS LOOKING FOR A JOB, AND IT WAS -- IT WAS DIFFICULT, BECAUSE I WAS NOT THE MOST POPULAR GUY IN TOWN. >> BECAUSE OF YOUR TESTIMONY BEFORE...
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| 00:55:56 |
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BEFORE THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
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| 00:55:58 |
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DURING THE IMPEACHMENT WAS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. I WAS THE FIRST OF EIGHT WITNESSES IN THAT THING, AND IN JUNE OR JULY OF '74. YEAH. I DID -- I REALLY...
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| 00:56:36 |
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RECOLLECTION WHERE YOU WERE? >> I WAS IN BOSTON. I READ IT IN THE PAPERS. I FOLLOWED
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| 00:56:45 |
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THE"THE WASHINGTON POST" CLOSELY. A THING CALLED WATERGATE THAT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE IN THE BEGINNING. >> WHEN DID YOU FIRST LEARN OF THE ARRESTS...
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| 00:56:59 |
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ABOUT IT ON THE RADIO COMING IN, BUT WHEN I GOT THERE, THE SECRET SERVICE CALLED
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| 00:57:03 |
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ME. IT WAS QUITE EARLY. I WENT IN EARLY ON SATURDAY MORNING, AND SUNDAY, AND THE SECRET SERVICE, I THINK. YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE THE FBI, BUT ASKING...
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| 00:57:36 |
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CLE YESTERDAY OR I DON'T KNOW, JOSH
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| 00:57:38 |
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IF YOU GOT INTO THIS OR NOT,
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| 00:57:40 |
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BUT WHAT HAPPENED IS HOWARD HUNT'S NAME HAD COME UP VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE OF THE SCENE OF THE ARREST WHERE THE AMERICANS STAYING IN THE WATERGATE HOTEL,...
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| 00:59:06 |
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THE PRESIDENT HAD TO KNOW ABOUT IT. I'D BEEN THERE THREE AND A HALF YEARS BY THAT TIME, AND THAT'S THE WAY THINGS OPERATED. I SAW THINGS -- EVERYTHING...
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| 01:00:25 |
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REPORTING AND YOUR REACTION? >> WELL, YOU'VE GOT TO GO BACK IN TIME TO WHAT A DIFFERENT WORLD IT WAS. IT WAS A VERY PARTISAN ENVIRONMENT, AND NOT
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| 01:00:34 |
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JUST PARTISAN DEMOCRAT/REPUBLICAN BUT PARTISAN BECAUSE OF THE VIETNAM WAR, AND MY GENERATION WAS TRYING TO SHUT DOWN THE VIETNAM WAR AND FELT VERY...
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| 01:02:04 |
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DEMOCRATS, WHAT WAS REALLY GOING ON AND DIDN'T HAVE A ROAD
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| 01:02:06 |
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MAP. JOHN WAS PROVIDING A ROAD MAP TO IT AND WE WERE -- AT LEAST MY POSITION WAS, WE WERE SKEPTICAL. WE HAD TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS REALLY GOING ON....
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| 01:04:27 |
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IN SINISTER AND MYSTERIOUS THINGS.
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| 01:04:29 |
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I CALLED UP THE OFFICE AND SAID, CAN I SPEAK TO -- I THINK HIS NAME WAS JOHNSON, THE NAME OF THE AIDE, AND I NEED TO SPEAK TO HIM AND THEY BROUGHT...
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| 01:06:49 |
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AN INVISIBLE
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| 01:06:50 |
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WORLD, AND HERE WE WOULD SGEE THE WHITE HOUSE SBOE INTOGO INTO THE WHITE HOUSE AND GET NOTHING. THE DEPUTY ASSISTANTS AND WHATNOT, BUT IF YOU TALKED...
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| 01:07:41 |
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I WAS SYSTEMS ANALYST
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| 01:07:43 |
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AMONG OTHER THINGS AND MADE AN ORGANIZATIONAL CHART OF THE WHITE HOUSE. THE QUESTION WAS, HERE'S NIXON. HERE'S DEAN. WE KNEW FROM JOHN'S TESTIMONY...
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| 01:08:43 |
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THE DNC AND ACTUALLY LYLY VISIT THOSE FACILITIES WHERE THE ARRESTS OCCURRED? >> WE DID, BUT, AGAIN, ALL UNDER THESE ODD CIRCUMSTANCES. THE DEMOCRATIC...
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| 01:08:59 |
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I MEAN, REALLY INVESTIGATING AS MUCH AS WE JUST LOOKING AT THE SCENERY ADD RIRY AND -- ALTHOUGH IT'S SKEPTICAL, AT LEAST I WAS, OF LARRY O'BRIEN...
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| 01:09:20 |
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YES. I MEAN, WE -- >> DID YOU EVER FIND THE FACT I DID HIRE ONE OF THE FIRST FEMALE ATTORNEYS
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| 01:09:27 |
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IN THE WHITE HOUSE? >> THE --
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| 01:09:30 |
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WELL -- >> VALERIE MOLES. >> I HAD FORGOTTEN THAT. WE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE THAT
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| 01:09:37 |
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WERE KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THESE INTERACTIONS
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| 01:09:40 |
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WITH THE PRESIDENT. >> I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH
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| 01:09:42 |
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| 01:09:48 |
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JILL. LET'S PROCEED ALONG, DEVELOP THE SATELLITE CHART. THERE ARE NOW PEOPLE YOU HAVEN'T TALKED TO. SOME YOU'RE TALKING TO TALK TO, INFORMING, TELL...
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| 01:10:10 |
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AT THAT POINT LATER WAS A WOMAN NAMED MARY DIORIO, BECAME THEFIRST WOMEN STAFF. A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND, STENOGRAPHER, SECRETARIES, WHATNOT. THEN WERE...
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| 01:13:30 |
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THIS BIZARRE MEMO TO THOMPSON, TWO THINGS WERE FORTUNATE ME. ONE, HOW WAS THIS
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| 01:13:35 |
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RECONSTRUCTED BY THE WHITE HOUSE? AND I THOUGHT IT PROBABLY CAME OUT OF NIXON'S TRYING TO COME UP WITH AN ACCOUNT, BUT I THOUGHT THAT PROCESS WOULD...
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| 01:13:51 |
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QUESTION THAT IT HAD SANDERS -- NOT THAT WERE YOU NOT GOING TO LET UP ON THE ISSUE? >> THE QUESTION WAS, WHERE IT CAME FROM, AND THOUSAND GOTHOW IT...
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| 01:14:05 |
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THING, REMEMBER HOWARD BAKER WAS EMBARRASSED ABOUT THE TESTIMONY AND HIS CHIEF OF STAFF HAD TO RESIGN WHEN IT WAS DISCOVERED. I WAS THINKING THOMPSON...
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| 01:14:33 |
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KNOW THAT I KNEW HE HAD A BACK CHANNEL TO THE WHITE HOUSE, AND PRETTY MUCH WHAT HE'S SAID, BECAUSE I'D WRITTEN THE PRESIDENT'S TALKING PAPERS AND HELPED...
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| 01:15:45 |
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WELL, IT'S A -- IT'S FRIDAY THE 13th, WHICH I WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT OCCURRED TO ME AT THE TIME. I UNDERSTAND AN
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| 01:15:53 |
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ABSOLUTELY SWELTERING WASHINGTON FRIDAY? >> ONE OF THOSE 90s, FELT LIKE 110 BECAUSE OF THE HUMIDITY DAYS, AND WE MET IN THE AIR
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| 01:16:04 |
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CONDITIONED BASEMENT OF THE DIRKSEN -- OF THE -- YEAH, DIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILDING IN A LITTLE ROOM THAT WAS MAYBE 15 X 20 THAT WAS NEVER CLEANED...
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| 01:18:00 |
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TRANSCRIPT AND IN A SENSE -- EVERYTHING HAD A TWIST, TRACKED IT DEAN'S TESTIMONY AND
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| 01:18:06 |
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PREPARED BEFORE DEAN'S TESTIMONY BUT ALWAYS HAD A TWIST THAT DEAN WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHATEVER THE EVIL ACT WAS AT THE END. IF THERE WAS SOMETHING...
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| 01:19:39 |
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WHEN YOU'D BEEN CALLED TO COME UP TO THE SENATE. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? WHAT'S IN YOUR HEAD? WHAT IN YOUR HEART? AND WHAT ARE YOU ANTICIPATING? >> I...
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| 01:20:00 |
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CO-CHAIRMAN OF THE WATERGATE COMMITTEE. >> THIS IS BEFORE YOU'D BEEN IN THERE? >> NO. >> BACK ALL WAIT UP TO BEFORE YOU EVEN ARRIVED. WHEN YOU GET A...
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| 01:20:10 |
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THE SENATE. >> ALL
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| 01:20:12 |
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| 01:20:13 |
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RIGHT. I SAID I'D BE FREE FRIDAY AT 2:00 AND I WAS CONSCIOUS, VERY CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT
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| 01:20:20 |
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I WAS DUE TO GO TO THE SOVIET UNION ON THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY, AND I'D BE GONE FOR ALMOST THREE WEEKS. SO IF I WAS GOING TO MEET WITH THIS COMMITTEE...
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| 01:20:37 |
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CUTTING A RIBBON AT A TRADE FAIR AND THEN THE FAA WAS GOING TO BE NEGOTIATING,
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| 01:20:42 |
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WE HOPED, WITH THE SOVIETS A CONTRACT TO UPGRADE THEIR AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL SYSTEM. >> AT THAT POINT YOU'RE THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE FAA? >> YES,...
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| 01:20:56 |
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AND I HAD BEEN AT THE FAA
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| 01:20:58 |
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| 01:21:00 |
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FOR FOUR MONTH
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| 01:21:02 |
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SS FROM WHEN I LEFT THE WHITE HOUSE. SO I MET WITH THESE PEOPLE AND HAD BEEN INTERROGATE ADD NUMBER OF TIMES BEFORE. WE ALL HAD. >> WERE YOU WORRIED...
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| 01:21:25 |
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BY ABOUT THREE WEEKS I THOUGHT A LOT
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| 01:21:27 |
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ABOUT THE TAPES. I SAID, THERE THEY ARE. I KNOW ABOUT THEM. ONLY SEVEN PEOPLE KNEW. MAYBE EIGHT. I GUESS FOUR SECRET SERVICE GUYS AND HAULEDLDEMAN...
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| 01:22:07 |
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TAPES, BUT I DID NOT THINK THAT IT WAS LIKELY I DID ANYTHING ON THE TAPES. >> AND YOU HAD NO QUESTION AT THAT POINT OF THEIR SIGNIFICANCE? >> OH,...
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| 01:22:20 |
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WERE RUNNING ALL THE TIME. THE ONLY THING I REMEMBER
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| 01:22:24 |
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DIFFERENTLY FROM WHAT SCOTT JUST SAID, I REMEMBER GETTING THAT PIECE OF PAPER EARLY ON IN -- SHORTLY AFTER 2:00 IN THAT FOUR-HOUR SESSION WITH THE STAFF...
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| 01:23:38 |
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IN HEART OF HEART, UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS EVIDENCE AND MAYBE YOU DO HAVE TO REVEAL IT? IT'S A REAL -- YOU'RE REALLY IN A CONFLICTED STATE?...
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| 01:23:56 |
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IN WATERGATE OR THE COVER-UP, BUT ANYWAY, I SAID FINALLY. I SORT OF PANICKED. I THREW IT BACK DOWN. SLID BACK TO THE CENTER OF THIS CONFERENCE TABLE...
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| 01:24:58 |
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THINGS ON A DICTABELT TO A FEW CONTRIBUTORS AND ROSEWOODS WAS THE GRAND MOGUL OF THE DICTABELTS. NO ONE WAS SUPPOSED TO TOUCH THEM EXCEPT RHODES. HE...
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| 01:25:55 |
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CONTACT, WHEN WE LEFT THE WHITE HOUSE, WE ALL HAD A POINT OF
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| 01:25:58 |
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CONTACT. AND MINE WAS LEN GARMIN. SO I CALLED LEN AND TOLD HIM IS WOULD TESTIFYING, OR I THOUGHT I WOULD BE TESTIFYING AND I TOLD HIM ABOUT THE, THE...
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| 01:26:35 |
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DID UNDERSTAND THAT BUSINESS
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| 01:26:36 |
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ABOUT HAVING AN ATTORNEY. I KNEW WHAT I KNEW AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I DIDN'T KNOW, AND I -- JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE NECESSITY. >> IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING,...
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| 01:26:57 |
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THE REVELATION BY ALEX. >> DESCRIBE THE REVELATION? >> OH. RIGHT. I WAS, WASN'T I? >> THANK YOU,
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| 01:27:07 |
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COUNSELOR. >>
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| 01:27:08 |
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SO I SAID, WHEN HE SAID THAT I SAID, I'M SORRY YOU ASKED THAT
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QUESTION. THAT'S THE WAY I REMEMBER IT. YES, THERE WAS.
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TO -- DON SIMMS. THEN I PICKED UP, THAT'S WHERE THIS HAD TO COME FROM. AND I STILL DON'T KNOW. THAT IS STILL A MYSTERY. >> ASKED WHETHER OR NOT I...
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| 01:27:41 |
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I FELT
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REASONABLY
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| 01:27:43 |
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SURE THAT
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| 01:27:45 |
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THEY HAD NOT HEARD THAT FROM ANY PREVIOUS WITNESS. IT WAS JUST TOO CLOSE HOLD, THAT SECRET OF NIXON'S, AND NOW IT WAS OUT, AND I REMEMBER BEING MORE...
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| 01:28:17 |
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CHIEF
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JUSTICES? >> NO. IN
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| 01:28:21 |
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MY EAR, PRIME MINISTER WILSON AND ALL THE PEOPLE I JUST THOUGHT THAT WOULD -- AND I HATED TO BE THE ONE TO DO
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| 01:28:27 |
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THAT, AND I KNOW -- I KNEW THAT HALDEMAN HADN'T COME UP YET. >> WHEN FOREIGN DIG TEARS STAYED AT CAMP DAVID, YOU ACTUALLY REMOVED THE FACILITIES....
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| 01:28:41 |
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YES. EVENTUALLY. I DIDN'T TELL ANYONE WE PUT IT IN, IN THE PRESIDENT'S LITTLE OFFICE AND THE CABINET. HIS
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| 01:28:49 |
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LODGE. I SHOULDN'T SAY HIS CABINET. >> OTHER THAN THE PRESIDENT? >> HMM? >> OTHER THAN THE PRESIDENT, NO IT WAS IN THERE? >> THE PRESIDENT, YEAH....
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| 01:28:59 |
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PRESIDENT. ONLY
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| 01:29:01 |
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I. AND
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| 01:29:02 |
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THEN WE TOOK IT OUT. THE SECRET
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| 01:29:04 |
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SERVICE SAID -- PUT DIGNITARIES IN THERE. I THINK WE PUT THE RUSSIAN GUY IN THERE AND THEY HAD TO -- THEY COULDN'T HAVE IT THERE. HE HAD HIS OWN SECURITY...
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| 01:29:23 |
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WHAT HAPPENED AS SOON AS YOU
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| 01:29:25 |
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GET THIS INFORMATION FROM BUTTERFIELD. >> THERE'S ONE OTHER -- THERE'S
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| 01:29:30 |
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ONE OTHER ASPECT. I WENT BACK LATE AROUND LOOKED AT THE STENOGRAPHER'S NOTES AND
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| 01:29:36 |
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THIS IS WHAT SHE HAS DOWN. . HE RIP IS WHAT IT MEMORY IS WHAT IT IS, BUT SHE WAS JUST TAKING NOTES. SANDERS ASKED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS ABOUT...
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| 01:30:25 |
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AT KNIT RATE, SANDERS SAID
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| 01:30:27 |
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DEAN THOUGHT THE PRESIDENT LOWERED HIS VOICE AND DEAN SPECULATED THAT THE PRESIDENT, THAT THE CONVERSATIONS MIGHT HAVE BEEN RECORDED. DID DEAN --...
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| 01:34:07 |
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FOCUS OF WATERGATE SHIFTS WITH THIS REVELATION OF GETTING THE TAPES, AND HANDLING THAT. THAT IS, INDEED, A WHOLE LOT OF SUBJECT. BUT I WOULD JUST...
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| 01:35:41 |
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FELT LEAST COMFORTABLE IN "THE FINAL DAYS" WE DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE INNER WORKINGS OF THE SUPREME COURT AND HAD GOTTEN A LITTLE A LITTLE FROM THE...
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| 01:36:21 |
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BLACK. AT ANY RATE THAT WAS
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| 01:36:23 |
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THE CAST AND THE CHARACTERS. THEY EACH HAD TWO TO FOUR CLERKS. DOUGLAS HAD TWO, THE REST MAINLY HAD THREE, AND THE CLERKS THAT WERE PRIVY TO, A VERY...
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| 01:38:36 |
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A VERY EARLY -- ZEKELER, THAT THE PRESIDENT WOULD ONLY RESPOND TO A DEFINITIVE DECISION BY THE COURT. AND THIS SEEMS BASED ON YOUR MATERIAL THAT DRIVING...
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| 01:39:17 |
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FUNCTION OF THE EXECUTIVE THAT THE GRAND JURY WOM PREVAIL OVER THIS CLAIM OF EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE, THEN BERGER, WHO WAS NOT ON THAT SIDE IN THE BEGINNING,...
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| 01:40:33 |
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QUESTIONS? WE HAVE A FEW MORE MINUTES. YES, BACK HERE. >> ON THE RECORD HERE -- >> ALL RIGHT. I'LL REPEAT YOUR QUESTION IF YOU WANT TO -- >>
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| 01:40:49 |
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| 01:40:50 |
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NEVER MIND. THIS QUESTION REVOLVES AROUND LISTENING TO YOUR ACCOUNT JUST NOW ABOUT -- ABOUT YOUR -- OKAY. IT'S
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| 01:41:01 |
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UP? HERE WE GO AGAIN. THANKS FOR DESCRIBING HOW YOU RETRACED YOUR STEPS IN WRITING THE BOOK. I HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE BOOK OVER THE SUMMER. SOUNDED...
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| 01:41:35 |
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EXPIRES. I DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL THAT WAY. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT'S IN PUBLIC. BLACKMAN ACKNOWLEDGED THAT HE SPENT A LONG TIME WITH ME AND HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS,...
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| 01:44:22 |
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OF WHAT HAPPENS AS PRESIDENT NIXON WANTED -- AND I THINK IT WAS IN CAMP
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| 01:44:27 |
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DAVID. DO YOU EVER WONDER WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF YOU HAD DONE THAT? HOW THAT WOULD HAVE CHANGED? >> I SUSPECT WHEN THIS WHOLE DRIVE FOR A DEAN...
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| 01:44:41 |
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IN SAN CLEMENTE. I HAPPENED TO BE OUT THERE AT THE TIME, AND HE REPORTED THAT THERE WAS A NUMBER OF INVESTIGATIONS GOING ON. THE GENERAL ACCOUNTING OFFICE...
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| 01:46:38 |
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THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL WAY TO TRAP ME, BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT --
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| 01:46:42 |
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HIS EXPLANATION TO ME WAS, JOHN, THE PRESIDENT COULD HAVE YOUR REPORT IN THE DRAWER, PULL IT OUT, SAY THIS SAUL I KNOW. I SAID, JOHN, THAT ISN'T TRUE....
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| 01:47:04 |
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GO. >> THIS IS A QUESTION FROM MR. BUTTERFIELD. HOW WAS NIXON
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| 01:47:10 |
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SO CONFIDENT, ABLE TO BE SO CONFIDENT IN HIS ABILITY TO KEEP THESE TAPES JIT IT SEEMS MAYBE JUST WITH HINDSIGHT INEVITABLE A SCANDAL LIKE THIS WOULD ARISE...
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| 01:47:13 |
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| 01:47:43 |
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ON I'M SURE THAT'S RIGHT EARLY ON. THERE WAS NO ONE THAT WAS GOING -- IT IS AMAZING. HENRY KISSINGER DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE, ROSE MARY WOODS DID NOT VAT...
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| 01:48:38 |
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OF LEGAL INQUIRY BEING A GOOD ROAD
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| 01:48:41 |
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TO THE TRUTH. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THE PEOPLE HAD FORGOTTEN THIS. THE COVER-UP WORKED. NIXON HAD TO RESIGN. ULTIMATELY THE TAPES DID COME OUT,...
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| 01:53:12 |
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THANK, FIRST OF ALL, CHAPMAN FOR PUTTING THIS SUPPOSE YUM TOGETHER. HERE WE ARE A CHANCE FOR SOME HINDSIGHT ON A RATHER SAD CHAPTER IN AMERICAN HISTORY,...
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