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HILL DISCUSSES HIS BOOK ENTITLED, "MRS. KENNEDY AND ME". >> CLINT H ILL, AUTHOR OF "MRS. KENNEDY AND ME". WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE
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Lamb, Brian - Host
BETWEEN THEN AND TODAY? HOW WOULD YOU DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY? >> I HAVE -- BACK THEN THERE WERE ONLY TO ASSIGN TO MRS. KENNEDY AND TODAY THERE MORE THAN...
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
I DO NOT KNOW THE EXACT ORDER. THAT IS BENEFICIAL. THERE ARE FEMALE AGENTS AVAILABLE. WE DID NOT HAVE THAT LUXURY IN 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963. THAT MAKES...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
HE WAS A PHOTOGRAPHER IN WASHINGTON, D.C.. SOMEWHAT OF HARASSMENT TO ME AND OTHERS.
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
ON ONE OCCASION HE DID SOMETHING I WAS VERY UPSET ABOUT. I HAD ARRANGED FOR MRS. KENNEDY TO ARRIVE IN WASHINGTON ON THE MILITARY FLIGHT WHICH IS UNUSUAL...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
WAS VERY OBNOXIOUS. ONE OF THE MORE OBNOXIOUS PEOPLE I EVER DEALT WITH. I'VE HEARD THAT SAME STORY FROM
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
OTHER PEOPLE AND MEMBERS OF THE PRESS. >> THERE IS A STORY ABOUT FRANK SINATRA AND YOU TAKING A PHONE CALL. >> THEY USED TO TAKE A NUMBER OF PHONE
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| 00:04:24 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
CALLS FOR MR. SINATRA. HE CALLED IN DECEMBER 1961
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
AFTER AMBASSADOR KENNEDY HAD A STROKE AND HE WANTED TO TALK TO MRS. KENNEDY. JACQUELINE KENNEDY. I HAVE INFORMED HIM, I HAD BEEN INSTRUCTED TO FOUR --...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
ME WHEN SHE GOT AROUND TO IT SHE WOULD CALL HIM AND SAY HELLO
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
BUT I DO NOT KNOW THAT SHE EVER DID. I AM NOT SURE. >> YOUR BOOK HAS BEEN ON THE BEST-SELLER LIST AND YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE BOOK TOUR. HOW MANY DIFFERENT...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
ALESSI. NEW YORK, TWICE, KANSAS CITY, SAN
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
DIEGO, SAN FRANCISCO, DALLAS, HOUSTON, CHICAGO, AND WASHINGTON, D.C., AND THERE'S MORE TO GO. >> WHAT HAVE YOU FOUND THE PUBLIC TO BE INTERESTED IN?...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
TELLS ABOUT HER LIFE, WHAT SHE WAS
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
REALLY LIKE. THERE IS NO GOSSIP OR SALACIOUS INFORMATION. IT IS WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT SHE WAS LIKE AN HOW HUMOROUS SHE WAS AND HOW INTELLIGENT SHE WAS....
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Lamb, Brian - Host
CROSS PATHS WITH ARISTOTLE ONASSIS." >> PRESIDENT KENNEDY GAVE MAKE -- ME THAT INSTRUCTION IN 1961 WHEN SHE WENT TO GREECE
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
THE FIRST TIME, WHEN SHE WENT ALONG. SHE HAD HER SISTER WITH HER. SHE WENT TO AN OPEN AIR THEATER. WE WERE ON A YACHT NAMED THE "NORTH WIND." THE INSTRUCTION...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
SHE HAD MET HIM
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
WITH THE PRESIDENT AT ONE TIME PREVIOUS, AN ISLAND OFF THE COAST IN THE MEDITERRANEAN. HIS YACHT WAS IN THE HARBOR. THEY WERE THERE, WINSTON CHURCHILL...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
WAS ABOUT 10 DAYS, I BELIEVE. >> WHY WAS SHE THERE? >>
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
THIS WAS 1963. SHE GAVE BIRTH TO A BILL OR
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Lamb, Brian - Host
A IN MASSACHUSETTS.
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| 00:08:47 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
TODAY'S LETTER, A YOUNG PATRICK DIED. MRS. KENNEDY BECAME VERY DEPRESSED. HER SISTER FLEW IN FROM LONDON TO BE WITH HER. SHE AND HER HUSBAND HAPPENED...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
THAT. SHE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE SECURITY
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| 00:10:02 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
OF THE CHILDREN AND HERSELF. EVEN THOUGH SHE HAD PROTECTION AT THE TIME. SHE WAS STILL CONCERNED AND HE OFFERED SOMETHING THAT NO ONE ELSE COULD OFFER....
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Lamb, Brian - Host
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
EISENHOWER, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT? HOW OLD WERE YOU? >>
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| 00:10:46 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
I WAS 27. HE WAS A RETIRED FOUR-STAR GENERAL.
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| 00:10:55 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
HE WAS HELD IN HIGHEST REGARD BY EVERYONE WORLDWIDE. FOR A YOUNG KID FROM NORTH DAKOTA TO BE IN THE PRESENCE OF A PRESIDENT WAS REALLY SPECIAL. HE WAS...
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| 00:11:58 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
I WAS FIVE OR SIX YEARS OLD. ROLL OFF THE STREET TOLD ME, AND TEASING ME I WAS ADOPTED AND I
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| 00:12:05 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
DID NOT KNOW WHAT IT MEANT. AND WHEN HOME TO MY MOTHER. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SHE WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT I HAD FOUND OUT. SHE WAS AFRAID I WOULD...
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| 00:12:52 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
AGENT?" >> PRESIDENT JOHNSON CALLED ME CLINT AND OTHER THINGS. >> STEADY EVER SWEAR YOU? >> I DO NOT THINK SO.
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
THIS IS A TAPE OF PRESIDENT
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| 00:13:10 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
JOHNSON AND JACQUELINE KENNEDY TALKING IN DECEMBER OF 1963. LET'S LISTEN. [AUDIO TAPE] >> THIS CONGRESS IS GETTING ROUGH AND I MAY HAVE TO SEND FOR YOU....
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Unidentified Speaker, -
I DO NOT KNOW. >> IT IS SO NICE TO CALL
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Unidentified Speaker, -
ME, MR. PRESIDENT.
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Unidentified Speaker, -
YOU MUST BE OUT OF YOUR MIND WITH WERE PILED UP. >> I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO DO BUT NOT ANYTHING
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| 00:13:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
I ENJOY MORE THAN WHAT I AM DOING NOW. HOW IS MY LITTLE
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| 00:13:48 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
GIRL? >> FINE. [INAUDIBLE] NOISY IN
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| 00:13:56 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE BACKGROUND. >> TELL HIM HELLO AND I WISH YOU ALL MERRY CHRISTMAS AND I WISH I COULD DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR YOU. >> YOU HAVE TO
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| 00:14:06 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ADD EVERYTHING YOU COULD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WE LOVE YOU? >> YOUR AWFULLY
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| 00:14:13 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
NICE. >> YOU DO NOT KNOW? >>
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Unidentified Speaker, -
YES, I DO. >> YOU
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Unidentified Speaker, -
HAD BETTER KNOW. ALL 180 MILLION LIVIU, --
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Unidentified Speaker, -
LOVE YOU, DEAR. IF
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| 00:14:27 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
YOU COME BACK HERE AGAIN AND DO NOT SEE ME, THERE IS GOING TO BE TROUBLE. I HAVE THE FBI AT MY DISPOSAL. >> I PROMISE I WILL. >> I WILL SEND FOR YOU...
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| 00:14:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WILL CLEAR THE TRAFFIC JAM IN GEORGETOWN. YOU HAVE A
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GOOD
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Unidentified Speaker, -
CHRISTMAS, DEAR. >>
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Unidentified Speaker, -
FENTY YOU. >> GOOD NIGHT. >> YOU SPENT A YEAR WITH
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Unidentified Speaker, -
HER AFTER THE ASSASSINATION
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| 00:14:58 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND SHE DID NOT WANT TO LOOK AT THE WHITE HOUSE AGAIN. >> SHE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME.
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| 00:15:04 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
VERY EMOTIONAL FOR. SHE MOVED OUT INTO GEORGETOWN AND
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| 00:15:10 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
SHE DID NOT WANT TO GO BY THE WHITE HOUSE. >> SHE WENT BACK FOR RICHARD NIXON. >> EVENTUALLY. IT WAS -- I CANNOT GIVE YOU A YEAR. IT WAS ONE
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| 00:15:22 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
A PORTRAIT WAS UNVEILED. -- WHEN A PORTRAIT WAS UNVEILED. >> YOU WERE 28 AND SHE WAS 31. WHAT ARE WE HEARING IN THIS AUDIOTAPE? IS IT ACCURATE ABOUT EITHER
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| 00:15:37 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
ONE OF THEIR PERSONALITIES? >> I THINK IS ACCURATE FOR BOTH OF THEM. THAT VOICE OF HERS IS UNMISTAKABLE. THAT IS HER.
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| 00:15:46 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
THAT IS THE WAY SHE TALKED. THAT IS THE WAY SHE ACTED. IT IS ALSO PRESIDENT JOHNSON. HE WAS ALL SWEETNESS AND LIGHT WHEN HE WANTED TO BE. AND IT WAS DIFFERENT...
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| 00:16:09 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
IT WAS LISA MCCOVEN. SHE IS A FANTASTIC WRITER. YOU SHOULD TALK
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| 00:16:18 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
TO HER SOME TIME. >> YOU WERE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE KENNEDY DETAIL, THE BOOK THAT YOU DID WITH GERALD PLANE --
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| 00:16:27 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
BLAINE. >> I CONTRIBUTED TO THE BOOK AND WROTE THE FOREWORD. HE -- SHE TOOK THE
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| 00:16:39 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
INFORMATION HE HAD PUT TOGETHER AND WORKED ON THAT AND WENT TO GREAT LENGTHS TO OBTAIN INFORMATION FROM THE AGENCIES AND CONTACTS. SHE PUT ALL THAT INFORMATION...
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| 00:18:04 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
1, 2000 --
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| 00:18:05 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
2011. >> SINCE YOUR LAST YEAR, THE EIGHT AND A HALF HOURS OF CONVERSATION BETWEEN ARTHUR'S WAS UNDER
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| 00:18:17 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
SLESINGER AND MRS. CANNADY WAS RELEASED. [AUDIO TAPE] >> HE NEVER DID THEM. HE COULD HAVE MADE HIS COUNCIL ON
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| 00:18:40 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
HUMAN RIGHTS ARE SOMETHING OR GONE AHEAD WITH IT, EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, HE COULD HAVE DONE MORE WITH THE SPACE THING. HE JUST NEVER WANTED TO MAKE ANY...
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| 00:19:25 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
I WAS NOT IN
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| 00:19:26 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
THE ROOM. >> RECORDED IN 1964 BETWEEN MARCH AND JUNE. WHAT I WANT TO ASK YOU, ROBERT CARO'S BOOK IS
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| 00:19:37 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
OUT ABOUT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE JOHNSONS AND THE KENNEDYS. WHAT DID YOU SEE THERE? DID YOU SEE ANY OF THAT? >> THERE WAS CERTAINLY A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN...
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| 00:19:54 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
1964 WHEN I WAS TRANSFERRED FROM MRS. KENNEDY BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE TO TELL WITH PRESIDENT JOHNSON. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT HAPPENED IS WE WENT...
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| 00:20:48 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
TO BE A CHANGE
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| 00:20:49 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AT THE VERY TOP. THEY
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| 00:20:51 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HAVE THEIR TRUST BETWEEN MYSELF AND ANOTHER
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| 00:20:53 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
GENTLEMAN. APPARENTLY, THEY TALK TO THE PRESIDENT AND I WAS SELECTED FOR THE JOB. >> WHAT DID YOU DO WITH GERALD FORD? >> I WAS THE SET -- ASSISTANT...
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| 00:21:08 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FOR THE MEN THAT WERE THERE. >> HOW
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| 00:21:11 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ABOUT RICHARD NIXON? >> IT WITH
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| 00:21:12 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HIM. I WAS PROMOTED TO
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| 00:21:16 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. >> WHAT HAVE YOU FOUND THAT PEOPLE EXPECT
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| 00:21:18 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FROM YOU
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| 00:21:19 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IN THIS BOOK? YOU SAY NO GOSSIP, NONE OF THAT.
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| 00:21:24 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
SOME PEOPLE SAY IT IMPLIES THESE TWO WERE VERY CLOSE. CLOSER THAN JUST AGENT TO PROTECTEE. >> WE WERE CLOSE. VERY CLOSE FRIENDS. PROFESSIONAL. I KNEW...
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| 00:21:43 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
IT IS ACCURATE IN SAYING REALLY CLOSE. I WANTED TO HAVE PEOPLE GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHO SHE WAS. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF BOOKS WRITTEN. MOST...
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| 00:22:27 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
WHO GOT MAD. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER ANYTHING THAT REALLY UPSET HER. I REMEMBER WHEN SHE WAS THROWN FROM A HORSE AND CAME OFF A HORSE BECAUSE OF A PHOTOGRAPHER....
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| 00:22:56 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
SHE WAS RIDING WITH THE ORANGE
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| 00:23:02 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
COUNTY HUNT. I WAS SURVEILLING HER ON VEHICLE. WE DID NOT RIDE WITH HER ON HORSES. THEY THOUGHT IT WAS TOO DANGEROUS AND EXPENSES -- EXPENSIVE. WE SURVEILED...
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| 00:24:07 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
STARTED WITH HER AFTER THE ELECTION. CAROLINE WAS THREE YEARS OF AGE. I HAD
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| 00:24:13 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
A BOY THAT WAS 4 YEARS OLD. WE HAVE THAT ONE CHILD AND JOHN WAS BORN IN 1969 AND ANOTHER BOY IN 1962. WE HAD CHILDREN ALMOST THE SAME AGE. >> I WENT...
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| 00:24:34 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
1955. A STILLBORN CHILD IN 1956. IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THAT. AND JOHN JR. IN 1960 AND YOU MAD -- YOU MENTIONED PATRICK BOOTHBY CANNADY --...
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| 00:25:04 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
THAT EVENING AND FLEW BACK TO PALM BEACH. HE WAS SETTING UP HIS CABINET AND EVERYTHING. WHEN HE LEFT THAT EVENING TO GO TO PALM BEACH, I FOUND THAT MRS....
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| 00:25:56 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THEM A FEW YEARS AGO WHICH MADE IT MORE
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| 00:25:59 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
DIFFICULT. >> WHY? >> I PROMISE
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| 00:26:01 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
I WOULD NEVER WRITE A
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| 00:26:03 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
BOOK. I VOWED I WOULD NEVER DO SO, NEVER CONTRIBUTE
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| 00:26:06 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
TO A BOOK OR TALK TO ANYONE ABOUT IT.
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| 00:26:09 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
JUST TO MAKE SURE WOULD NEVER GET MYSELF INVOLVED, I BURNED EVERYTHING. THERE WERE FEW MEMENTOS I KEPT. FOR THE MOST PART I BURNED ALL MY NOTES. NOW WHEN...
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| 00:26:55 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
YOUR NOTES? >> 2012. IT WAS
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| 00:27:03 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
MAYBE AFTER 2005. >> WHAT CHANGED YOUR MIND? WHAT REALLY CHANGED YOUR MIND? >>
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| 00:27:12 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
THIS WAS HISTORICAL AND I HAVE READ A NUMBER OF BOOKS WRITTEN ABOUT MRS. KENNEDY. A LOT OF
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| 00:27:27 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
THE INFORMATION AND THERE'S NOT VERY TRUE FOR THE MOST PART. I THOUGHT IT WAS TIME THAT SOMEONE BROUGHT OUT THE TRUTH, WHAT KIND OF PERSON SHE WAS,...
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| 00:27:50 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
PALM BEACH. TWO IN CAPE COD, THAT IS FOUR. SHE SPENT TIME IN NEWPORT, THAT IS 5.
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| 00:27:56 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
NEWBURG, CAMP DAVID, THE WHITE HOUSE, [INAUDIBLE] IN GEORGETOWN, ANOTHER HOUSE, A LOT MORE THAN SEVEN. >> WHY DID SHE NEED ALL THOSE DIFFERENT PLACES?...
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| 00:28:23 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
WHITE HOUSE AND THEN THEY BUILT. AFTER THE ASSASSINATION, SHE HAD TO LEAVE
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| 00:28:29 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
THE WHITE HOUSE, SHE DID NOT HAVE A PLACE TO GO. SOMEONE OFFERED HIS HOUSE FOR SHEEHAN THE CHILDREN TO MOVE INTO. THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET BECAME AVAILABLE....
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| 00:30:37 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
HAD TO SET UP NEW COMMUNICATIONS.
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| 00:30:40 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
IT CAUSED PROBLEMS. WHEN SHE BUILT THE HOUSE IN MIDDLEBURG, CALLED WEXFORD, WE BUILT IN SOME SECURITY DEVICES AND THEY DECIDED TO RENT THE HOUSE. THAT...
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| 00:31:10 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
BUT THE PRESIDENT WOULD NOT BE THERE. HOW OFTEN WERE THE APART? IT SEEMS LIKE I READ A LOT. >> THE WORK SEPARATED -- THEY WERE SEPARATED A LOT. HE WAS...
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| 00:31:25 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN MIDDLEBURG. GO OUT THERE ON FRIDAY AND SPEND TIME OUT THERE UNTIL MONDAY OR TUESDAY. THE PRESIDENT WOULD COME OUT SATURDAY. WE...
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| 00:31:52 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
THERE. THERE WERE VERY -- A VERY LOVING COUPLE WITH A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER.
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| 00:31:58 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
DEPENDED AND SUPPORTED EACH OTHER. I SAW NOTHING OTHER THAN A VERY LOVING HUSBAND AND WIFE AND VERY DEVOTED PARENTS TO TWO CHILDREN. >> I AM SURE YOU...
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| 00:32:17 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. [VIDEO TAPE] >> WHEN YOU KEEP A SECRET AND WHEN YOU KEEP SILENT ABOUT SOMETHING, YOU DO IT BECAUSE YOU THINK IT IS KEEPING YOU...
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| 00:32:36 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
THE SECRET STARTED IN 1962 WHEN A DEBUTANTE BEGAN WHAT SHE SAID WAS AN 18-MONTH AFFAIR WITH JOHN F. KENNEDY. THE
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| 00:32:50 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
REVELATION WAS REVEALED IN 2003 WHEN A HISTORIAN WROTE IN HIS BIOGRAPHY OF JFK THAT A TALL, SLENDER, BEAUTIFUL WHITE HOUSE INTERN WAS RUMORED TO BE AMONG...
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| 00:33:31 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
WHAT DID YOU THINK? >>
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| 00:33:33 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
I QUESTION HOW SHE COULD GET UP IN THE MORNING
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| 00:33:36 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND LOOK
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| 00:33:37 |
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YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR. >> WHY DO
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| 00:33:39 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
YOU THINK SHE WROTE IT? >> MONEY.
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| 00:33:41 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
THEY HAD A CLOSE ROVE -- LOVING
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| 00:33:46 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
RELATIONSHIP BUT
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| 00:33:47 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
WHEN YOU READ THIS BOOK, SHE WENT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO BE WITH HIM AND EVEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS, SHE WAS SUPPOSEDLY SOMEWHERE...
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| 00:34:46 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
OLIVER STONE'S MOVIE. WHAT SHOULD WE BELIEVE AND WHAT MATTERS? >> I AM TELLING IT LIKE IT IS. SHOWING YOU WHAT SHE WAS LIKE. I HAVE NO REASON TO DO OTHERWISE.
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| 00:34:59 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
IF PEOPLE WANT TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY WANT TO BELIEVE, NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT THAT. THIS IS MRS. KENNEDY AS I KNEW HER. THIS IS OUR RELATIONSHIP. FROM...
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| 00:35:34 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
60 ARE FIVE STAR POSITIVE. HAVE YOU READ ANY OF THEM? >> I HAVE. I AM NOT TO AGREE WITH A COMPUTER. I AM LEARNING. >> THIS IS FULL OF NOTHING BUT
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| 00:35:49 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
PRAISE AND AND IT SAYS, "I LEARNED MORE THAN A FEW FASCINATING INSIGHTS. JACKIE
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| 00:35:55 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
WAS MORE OF AN ATHLETE. IT WAS NOT JUST AT THE KENNEDY -- ETHEL CANNADY. SHE WAS ALSO VERY SELF- CENTERED." >> SOMEWHAT. NOT COMPLETELY. NOT OVERWHELMINGLY....
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| 00:36:16 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
EMPATHY FOR PRESIDENT KENNEDY AND HIS HOUND DOG WAYS. JACKIE KENNEDY WAS MISSING IN ACTION
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| 00:36:23 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
OF THE TIME. >> WE WERE GONE A LOT. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT WAS
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| 00:36:31 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
TRANSPIRING WHILE WE WERE GONE. I CANNOT COMMENT ABOUT ANYTHING ABOUT HIM. >> IF MR. HILL HAD OPENED UP HIS PERSONAL LIFE AS HE IS TELLING THE STORY,...
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| 00:36:46 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
ANYONE KNOW HOW THE HILL KIDS TURNED OUT? DID HIS WIFE DIVORCED HIM? IF SHE DID NOT, SHE SHOULD GET A MEDAL. >> MY WIFE AND I ARE NOT TOGETHER AND HAVE...
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| 00:37:07 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
LIVE IN THE VIRGINIA AREA. --
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| 00:37:10 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THEY
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| 00:37:11 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
LIVE IN THE VIRGINIA AREA. >> DO YOU
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| 00:37:14 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
HAVE ANY REGRETS THAT YOU WERE AWAY 80% OF THE TIME? >> DESS BECAUSE MY SONS GREW UP
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| 00:37:22 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
WITHOUT ME. WE ARE CLOSER NOW THAN WE WERE THEN. I HAVE THE REGRET. IT PUT A
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| 00:37:28 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
VERY BIG STRAIN ON MY MARRIAGE, NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. IT WAS MY JOB. I REALLY ENJOYED AND WANTED TO DO AND DID. >> YOU SAID YOU LEFT THE SERVICE WHEN...
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| 00:37:47 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
ON
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| 00:37:50 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THE CALENDAR, ITEM 80. >> NOT
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| 00:37:52 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ON THE CALENDAR, IF YOU
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| 00:37:53 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
ARE WHAT, 60? >> 52. >> WHEN WAS THE
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| 00:37:59 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
BAD
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| 00:38:02 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PERIOD, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LIVING IN THE BASEMENT AND DRINKING? >> SIX MONTHS AFTER
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| 00:38:09 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
I RETIRED AND A DOCTOR TOLD ME IT WAS EITHER QUIT WHEN I WAS DOING OR DIE. >> WHAT WERE YOUR DAYS
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| 00:38:16 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
LIKE? >> I WOULD GET UP IN THE MORNING AND DRINK. I DID NOT DO ANYTHING.
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| 00:38:23 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
FRIENDS WOULD COME AND SEE ME. I WOULD NOT RESPOND
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| 00:38:25 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
TO THEM. I RECALLED TO OF THEM, I WAS IN THE BASEMENT ON THE COUCH. I DID NOT GET UP. I DID NOT WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANYBODY. AND DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING...
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| 00:39:11 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
WAS -- KEPT DOING WHAT I WAS DOING. I WAS DAMAGING EVERY PART OF MY BODY.
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| 00:39:16 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
THAT APPARENTLY SCARED ME ENOUGH TO MAKE A CHANGE AND SO I DID. GREECE ALSO TALK ABOUT PAIN. CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE PAIN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT? >> IT IS...
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| 00:39:36 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
WILL NOT TALK ABOUT THE ASSASSINATION. I WAS REMINDED EVERY DAY OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED. SOME WAY OR ANOTHER. WEATHER WAS -- IF IT WAS A NEWS ARTICLE OR...
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| 00:40:56 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
ACTION.
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| 00:40:58 |
Hill, Clint - Special Agent
WITHOUT PRIOR TO THE TIME ANYONE KNEW ABOUT IT, THEY KNEW ABOUT IT AND HE TOOK IMMEDIATE ACTION BEFORE ANY PRESS INQUIRIES OR ANYTHING ELSE. I AM SAD...
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| 00:42:11 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HERE IS LYNDON JOHNSON AND JAMES RALLEY ON THE PHONE. [AUDIOTAPE] >> >>
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| 00:42:16 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
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| 00:42:19 |
Lamb, Brian - Host
YOU'RE GOING TO KILL MORE PEOPLE THAN YOU SAVE. ALL YOU ARE DOING IS RUNNING OVER LITTLE CHILDREN AND YOU
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| 00:42:33 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ARE RUNNING OVER SOMEONE'S FOOT. SOMEONE'S GONE WILL GO OFF AND CAUSE MORE DANGER. I WISH YOU WOULD TELL THEM TO STAY BEHIND ME SO THEY DO NOT RUN OVER...
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| 00:42:52 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THIS FELLOW IN GEORGIA. ASSISTANT CHIEF OF POLICE. SECRET SERVICE CAR RAN OVER HIM
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| 00:43:00 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AT COLLEGE PARK AND BROKE HIS FOOT, HE IS NOW IN A CAST. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TELLING THEM ABOUT. THEY LIKE TO STAY WITHIN 1 FOOT OF ME AND I DO NOT...
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| 00:43:32 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND THE REPUBLICAN WILL BE WRITING THE STORY ON IT. WE COULD NOT USE THEM IF WE WERE DOWN THERE. >>
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| 00:43:38 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
YES, SIR. >> YOU MIGHT NEED ONE OR TWO WHEN WE PICK THEM UP IN AUSTIN BUT I SURE WOULD
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| 00:43:45 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
HAVE FORD STATION AND 26 THERE. I HAVE NOT BEEN HOME
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SINCE BEFORE EASTER. >> THAT IS RIGHT, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR. >> WHAT ARE YOU HEARING? >> AT LEAST
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MR. RALLY HAD TO TALK TO HIM.
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HE WOULD TALK TO ME THE SAME WAY AND HE WOULD PROBABLY IN THE TEST BECAUSE I WAS 2 FEET AWAY
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
AND THAT WAS LYNDON JOHNSON. THAT IS THE WAY HE TREATED MYSELF AND EVERYBODY ELSE. HE WAS JUST VENTING, THAT IS WHAT HE WAS DOING. AND THEN HE WOULD...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
EXAMINED EVERYONE AT THE ASSASSINATION, THE WHOLE AROUND, IT, THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THAT DAY. THE SECRET SERVICE DID NOT ALLOW HIM TO DO AN...
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
TO LEAVE. HE WOULD NOT LEAVE UNTIL MRS. KENNEDY WAS READY TO GO. MRS. KENNEDY WOULD NOT LEAVE WITHOUT THE PRESIDENT'S BODY. WE WANTED TO GET THE PRESIDENT'S...
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
DR. ROSE BELIEVE IT MANY OF THOSE THEORIES WOULD NOT HAVE GAINED TRACTION, MEANING THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES, IF HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO HIS
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Lamb, Brian - Host
JOB. >> I DO NOT KNOW THAT IS TRUE. THE THEORY SPECULATE EVERYTHING FROM OUR MOVING THE BODY AND PUTTING A DIFFERENT
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
BODY IN A CASKET AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY STUPID, RIDICULOUS, AND DOWN. NOTHING WAS DONE THAT IN ANY WAY CHANGE THE OUTCOME....
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Lamb, Brian - Host
HE SAID "MRS. KENNEDY AND
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ME" IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED FOR THE
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Lamb, Brian - Host
TRUTH. HE FULLY ENDORSED YOUR BOOK EVEN THOUGH HE HAS BEEN CRITICAL. >> MAYBE HE HAS HAD SOME SECRET AGENDA, I DO NOT KNOW. I ACCEPT HIS PRAISE, THANK...
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
SAY THAT YOU AND MRS. KENNEDY NEVER TALKED ABOUT THE ASSASSINATION. WHY NOT? >> I WAS NOT GOING TO BRING IT OUT. SHE NEVER
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Lamb, Brian - Host
DID. -- BRING
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
IT UP. IT IS SOMETHING SHE NEVER TALKED TO WITH ANYONE. YOU WILL FIND THE ASSASSINATION, THERE IS ONLY ONE REFERENCE TO IT. THE END OF A TOUR THAT PEOPLE...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
WHO WAS PROTECTING HER? >> FIELD AGENTS WERE SUPPLEMENTS FOR THE MIDNIGHT
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Lamb, Brian - Host
SHIFT. A NEW YORK AGENT WOULD BE THERE TO WORK WHEN WE DID NOT. WHEN SHE MOVED,
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
WE WERE WITH HER. WE HAD FIELD OFFICE AGENTS SUPPLEMENTING US EITHER -- EVEN THEN. WE DID NOT KNOW THE CITY THAT WELL AND THE FIELD OFFICE DID. THEY HAD...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
48, 72 HOURS? WHAT WAS YOUR LIFE LIKE? >> I WAS DEVOTED TO MAKING SURE SHE WAS OK. WHENEVER SHE NEEDED, WE WERE GOING TO MAKE SURE SHE HAD.
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
I DID NOT GET ANY SLEEP. THE MORNING OF THE 23RD, I WENT HOME AT 6:00 A.M. TO SHOWER AND CHANGE AND COME BACK TO WORK. I WORKED UNTIL MIDNIGHT THAT ...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
HER LIFE LIKE? >> WE
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LEFT WITH THE BODY
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ON THE MORNING OF THE 23RD AND WENT BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE. THE BODY WAS
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PLACED IN STATE IN THE EAST
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Lamb, Brian - Host
ROOM. SHE AND SOME MEMBERS OF FAMILY WERE THERE. I WENT TO MY OFFICE WHICH WAS ON THE GROUND FLOOR. WHEN I FOUND OUT SHE HAD GONE TO SLEEP AND WAS...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
AT FIRST WE HAVE THE GUARDS MOVED OUT OF THEIR OFFICE. SHE SAID NO.
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
SHE ASKED THEM TO TURN AROUND SO WE CAN HAVE SOME PRIVACY. THEY TOOK THREE STEPS BACK AND FACED WITH FROM THE CASKET. THAT IS WHEN SHE AND BOBBY KENNEDY...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
WANTED TO WALK THE ENTIRE ROUTE. >>
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
TO THE CAPITOL? >> ALL THE WAY. THE WHITE HOUSE TO SIT MATTHEWS TO
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Lamb, Brian - Host
ARLINGTON.
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
FINDING OUT ALL THESE HEADS OF STATE WOULD BE THERE, SOME OF THEM WERE IN THEIR 80S -- EDDIE'S. EVEN THEN THAT WAS A PROBLEM. YOU COULD NOT TALK HER...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
IN EARLY NOVEMBER, SHE SAID PRESIDENT KENNEDY WILL GO TO ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY ON NOVEMBER 11.
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
I WANT JOHN TO GO WITH HIM AND I WANT HIM TO SALUTE HIS FATHER LIKE ALL THE MILITARY WILL. HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW. CAN YOU TEACH HIM? SURE. THE AGENTS...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
THEY ACTUALLY SHOOT AT HIM, BOTH OF THEM? >> THAT HAPPENED ONE MONTH AFTER I RETIRED. ONE OF THEM DID ACTUALLY SHOOT AT HIM.
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
THE BULLET WENT OVER HIS HEAD. AN AGENT JAMMED HIS THUMB BETWEEN THE HAMMER OF THE CYLINDER. >> WE HAVE ABOUT A MINUTE LEFT OR SO. KNOWING WHAT YOU HAVE...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
STUFF, WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND TO SOMEONE WHO IS DOING WHAT YOU DID TO AVOID THIS KIND OF PERSONAL DIFFICULTY? >> WILLINGLY SEEK COUNSEL. TALK TO PEOPLE...
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
IT IN WAS WHAT CAUSED THE PROBLEM. I DID NOT TALK TO ANYONE. OTHER AGENTS, MY FAMILY, EVERYONE. I KEPT IT INSIDE AND THAT IS WHAT GOT ME. >> THE END OF...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
MORE THAN ANYONE CAN EVER KNOW." IS THERE A LOT THAT WE DO NOT KNOW THAT HAS BEEN KEPT OUT OF THIS BOOK? >> NOT A LOT KEPT OUT OF THE BOOK. SHE AND I...
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
FEW OF THEM ARE REVEALED. SHE SMOKED. >> THREE AND A HALF PACKS A DAY. >> I DO NOT KNOW IF IT WAS THAT MUCH.
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Lamb, Brian - Host
I, YEAH.
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
I DO NOT THINK IT WAS HER. I ALSO -- SHE ALSO READ THE TABLOIDS. >> YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PUT THEM IN A BOTTLE AND HIDE THEM UNTIL 50 YEARS OR NOW? >> I...
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Lamb, Brian - Host
AND ME".
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Hill, Clint - Special Agent
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. [CAPTIONING
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Lamb, Brian - Host
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