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NOT TRUE. >> MR.
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KEATING IS GIVEN
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TO EXTRAVAGANT LANGUAGE. >> BUT I WASN'T GOING TO -- >> I AM
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SORRY. >>
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NOT NECESSARY TO EQUATE EVERYTHING IN LANGUAGE I BLURTED OUT BUT
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WHAT ABOUT
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THIS? ANYTHING HE CARES ABOUT, THE ONLY LANGUAGE HE RESPECTS HIS STRENGTH. LOVE AFFAIR BY -- >> CERTAINLY NOT. >> MR. KEATING ALSO SAID ACCORDING...
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LIKE TO PICK WINNERS. MR. KEATING SPEAKING. IF HE THINKS YOU ARE A
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WINNER HE PREFERS TO BE WITH YOU THAN AGAINST YOU. >> I THINK WE ALL LIKE TO BACK A WINNING RACE HORSE OR WHATEVER. BUT
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| 00:40:15 |
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THAT WAS NOT A MOTIVATION. >> YOU GAVE A LITTLE SPEECH, HIS SPEECH WAS A ROARING SUCCESS ACCORDING TO THOSE WHO WERE THERE. >>
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UNDERSTANDING FROM EVERYBODY THERE. >> A CONSUMMATE ATTORNEY THAT WILL END UP MAKING LOVE LIKE PORCUPINES VERY
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CAREFULLY.
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DID HE SAY THAT? [LAUGHTER] >> AS YOU POINT OUT IN YOUR WITNESS STATEMENT, THE SON IN
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1995 REMAINED NONCOMMITTAL. >> 95? >> THE ENDORSEMENT ONLY CAME LATE IN THE DAY IN MARCH OF
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1997. >>
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I FORGET THE DATE. >> WAS IT PART OF YOUR STRATEGY TO WAIT
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AS LONG
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AS POSSIBLE, LABOR PARTY, AND COMMERCIAL LEAD VANTAGES FROM THEM? >> CERTAINLY NOT. >> AND POLICY ON MEDIA ISSUES AT THIS POINT? >>
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I DON'T THINK SO. >> AND THE KING COMMERCIAL INTEREST TO THE COMPANY'S KNOW WHAT LABOR PARTY'S POLICY
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| 00:41:58 |
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ON MEETING ISSUES WOULD LIKE TO BE? >>
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| 00:42:01 |
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WHAT COULD THEY HAVE DONE? >> WHAT COULD THEY HAVE DONE? I
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| 00:42:12 |
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DON'T THINK SO. AND
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THE LABOR PARTY, TO UNDERTAKE TO THE ISSUE OF OWNERSHIP AND CONCENTRATION OF MEDIA OWNERSHIP? >> IT IS OBVIOUS THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WOULD WANT. >>
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| 00:42:44 |
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THAT IS FINE. >> WEREN'T YOU REASSURED WHEN THE 1997 LABOR MANIFESTO DID NOT SAY
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ANY LEGISLATIVE PROPOSAL ON MEDIA
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OWNERSHIP? BY WHICH I MEAN CONCENTRATION ON MEDIA OWNERSHIP? >> I DON'T REMEMBER NOTICING IT. >> IS THAT RIGHT? QUITE APART FROM OVERUSE
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SUPPORTED, PRESUMABLY AS A BUSINESSMAN,
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| 00:43:22 |
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SUBSTANTIAL INTEREST IN THIS COUNTRY, WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT EVERY PARTY WAS SAYING IN THEIR MANIFESTOS THAT MIGHT IMPACT ON THE WAY YOU DID...
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THAT MY COMMERCIAL INTEREST SUCH AS THEY ARE NEVER CAME IN TO ANY CONSIDERATION WHERE WE STOOD ON ISSUES. FOR POLITICAL PARTIES. >> I REFER YOU TO AN...
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| 00:44:11 |
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THAT 634 ENTRIES THE THIRD OF FEBRUARY, 1997, CAME TO BE STAFFED. EIGHT LINES DOWN -- >> ARE WE ON THE RIGHT PAGE? >>
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633. >> 634. >> EIGHT WINDS DOWN, DO YOU
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HAVE THAT ONE? >>
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YES. >> WENT
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TO SEE MURDOCH AND 01 STILL SIR. MR. CAMPBELL'S FOOTNOTE,
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RUPERT MURDOCH'S
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| 00:45:13 |
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ECONOMIC TOUR WOULD BE THAT. >> NO. IT WAS A FRIEND AND SOMEONE I ENJOYED TALKING
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| 00:45:26 |
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TO. A FINE ECONOMIST. >> I WANT TO SAY IN TEN YEARS NEVER ASKED MR. BLAIR TO MEET HIM, DORR DENY RECEIVED ANYTHING. IF YOU WANT
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| 00:47:25 |
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TO CHECK THAT YOU SHOULD CALL HIM. >> THAT WAS MY QUESTION. A MORE SUBTLE QUESTION. >> INDEED IT
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| 00:47:40 |
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WAS. THE SOPHISTICATED NEWSPAPER PROPRIETOR WOULD NOT BE HARD-NOSED COMMERCIAL NEGOTIATION, HOW MUCH TO PAY SOMETHING. IT WOULD BE A
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| 00:47:49 |
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FAR HIGHER AND MORE SUBTLE LEVEL, TRYING TO WORK OUT HOW MUCH TO GIVE AND HOW MUCH TO PRESS FOR. DO YOU FOLLOW ME? >> I DON'T. >> DON'T YOU? >>
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NO. >> DID YOU AT LEAST SENSE THIS SORT OF ENCOUNTER WITH MR.
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BLAIR OR MR. BROWN,
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| 00:48:18 |
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TWO MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE JUST BEFORE THE GENERAL ELECTION THAT THEY WERE VERY ANXIOUS TO SOUND YOU OUT AND SEE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING WAS. >> THEY PROBABLY...
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| 00:48:46 |
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TO EVERY OTHER PRESENT PRIORITY. >> YOU DIDN'T FEEL THEY WERE SIZING YOU UP TRYING TO WORK OUT WHAT YOU WERE THINKING AND WHAT WAS NECESSARY FROM THAT
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| 00:49:01 |
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PERSPECTIVE? THEY HAD TO DO TO WIN YOUR SUPPORT? >> I DON'T THINK SO. >> MR. CAMPBELL'S ENTRY FOR THE TENTH OF MARCH
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1997, PAGE 6 -- >>
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664. >> LET ME JUST READ IT TO
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| 00:49:30 |
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YOU. TB SPOKE TO BOWLEN LATER AND SAID MURDOCH WAS EMERGING --
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| 00:50:00 |
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COMMERCIAL REASONS TO MAKE CLEAR AT THE START OF THE CAMPAIGN. MIGHT YOU HAVE HAD THAT DISCUSSION? >> NO. IF HE SAID THAT HE HAD NO RIGHT TO. >> ISN'T...
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OF THING YOU DID DISCUSS? >> NO. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE TO SAY
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| 00:50:26 |
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TO YOU THAT I
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NEVER TOOK COMMERCIAL CONSIDERATIONS. >> SO HE GOT COMPLETELY THE WRONG END OF THE STICK? >>
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| 00:50:41 |
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YES. >> IF ONE READS CAREFULLY, HE IS NOT SUGGESTING QUITE
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| 00:50:50 |
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THAT. WHAT HE
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| 00:50:55 |
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IS SAYING IS MR. SELTZER WAS PROVIDING FEEDBACK WHICH SOUNDS AS IF IT WERE ACCURATE THAT HE WERE MOVING TOWARD SUPPORTING THE LABOR PARTY AND HE'S MAKING...
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| 00:51:38 |
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I WAS NOT PUTTING A SINISTER
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MOTIVE. FOR COMMERCIAL REASONS, POSSIBLY WITH LONG TERM INTERESTS OF YOUR
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| 00:51:49 |
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COMPANY'S COMPANY'S, WHAT GOVERNMENT POLICY MIGHT BE ON MEDIA OWNERSHIP. >> COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? >> FOR COMMERCIAL REASONS A REFERENCE TO WHAT FUTURE...
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| 00:52:05 |
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POLICY MIGHT BE ON
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| 00:52:06 |
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MEDIA OWNERSHIP WHICH WOULD AFFECT THE COMMERCIAL INTERESTS OF NEWS INTERNATIONAL. >> YES. >> IN THE RUN UP TO
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| 00:52:26 |
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THE ENDORSEMENT, THE ENDORSEMENT OF THE "SUN"
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| 00:52:33 |
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WAS ON THE EIGHTEENTH OF MARCH, 1997. ACCORDING TO WHAT THIS IS -- [TALKING OVER EACH OTHER] >> FULL DISCLOSURE, 1997 EDITION WHICH IS NO.
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| 00:53:00 |
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24. >> YES. >> YOU LOOK FIVE LINES DOWN, THIS RELATES
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TO WHAT HAPPENED ON THE
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SEVENTEENTH OF MARCH 1997. BLAIR WHEN TO THE FINAL MILE FOR AN ARTICLE FOR THE SUN AT THE START OF THE ELECTION CAMPAIGN. HE WROTE IN SKEPTICAL TONES...
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TO DELAY THE ENDORSEMENT FOR LABOR. THAT
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| 00:54:01 |
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ENDORSEMENT WAS YOUR DECISION? >> IT CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE BEEN IN MY APPROVAL. >> SOME WOULD SAY YOU EXTRACTED AS MUCH AS YOU COULD FROM
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| 00:54:14 |
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MR. BLAIR IN TERMS
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| 00:54:18 |
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OF POLICY. HAD GONE CONSIDERABLE DISTANCE IN YOUR DIRECTION AND AS FAR AS HE WAS EVER GOING TO GO THAT YOU ENDORSE HIM. THAT IS RIGHT, ISN'T IT? >>...
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| 00:54:44 |
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NEIL'S ASSESSMENT CONFIRMED SOMETHING YOU SAID. IT WAS AN ADDITIONAL POINT. HE SAYS I DO NOT BELIEVE
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| 00:54:52 |
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THERE WAS AN EXPLICIT DEAL BETWEEN MURDOCH AND BLAIR IN WHICH "THE SUN" GAVE SUPPORT TO POLICIES WHERE THE LABOR COMMITMENTS WITH THE BRITISH MEDIA...
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| 00:55:16 |
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MEN, AN UNDERSTANDING NEVERTHELESS. >>
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| 00:55:19 |
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THAT IS NOT TRUE. IF IT WAS TRUE
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HE DOESN'T KEEP TO IT BECAUSE THERE WERE WIDE POWERS. >> ANOTHER FIVE MINUTES. [SILENCE] >>
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WE'RE WATCHING LIVE COVERAGE OF TESTIMONY BY THE CHAIR AND CEO OF NEWS CORP. AND RUPERT MURDOCH ANSWERING QUESTIONS
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| 00:56:13 |
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BEFORE THE LESSON INQUIRY INTO MEDIA PRACTICES AND ETHICS. HE AND HIS SON APPEARING BEFORE THE BOARD THIS WEEKEND WE WILL HAVE MORE FROM MR. MURDOCH'S...
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