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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE ALLIANCE DOES. GUEST: IT IS FOUNDED IN THE MID 1970'S TO COME THAT THE ANTI- HUNTING, ANTI-FISHING MOVEMENT AND PROTECT
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Horn, William - General Counsel
THE RIGHTS OF SPORTSMEN AND WOMEN TO ENGAGE IN THESE ACTIVITIES. HOST: WHEN IT COMES TO THE ACTIVITIES, WHAT IS INTERSECTING WITH FEDERAL POLICY? GUEST:
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS DIFFERENT AREAS OF
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Horn, William - General Counsel
LAND. IN THE U.S. FOREST SERVICE, THE WILDLIFE REFUGE SYSTEM, AND EVEN WITHIN THE PARKS SYSTEM, THERE ARE ELEMENTS THAT ARE EXPRESSLY OPEN TO HUNTING...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
GUEST: IS AN AMALGAM OF FOUR DIFFERENT BILLS TO FIX DIFFERENT PROBLEMS. TITLE ONE STARTED OUT AS A SEPARATE BILL.
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Horn, William - General Counsel
IF IT ESSENTIALLY ESSENTIALLY ESTABLISHES A LAW THAT LANDS ARE OPEN TO HUNTING AND ASIAN. THAT DOES NOT EXIST IN PRESENT -- HUNTING AND FISHING. THAT...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
ALREADY. GUEST: THE LAW DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR THE TYPE OF ACCESS FOR AN INKLING AND HUNTING. WE HAVE FINISHED
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Horn, William - General Counsel
AND HUNTED ON THESE LANDS LARGELY AS A MATTER OF TRADITION. NOT SO MUCH AS A MATTER OF EXPRESSED LAW. THE SECOND PART OF THE BILL CODIFIES RECENT DECISIONS...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
WHEN I WAS ASSISTANT SECRETARY TO THE INTERIOR,
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Horn, William - General Counsel
WE TOOK STEPS TO PROHIBIT THE USE OF LEAD SHOT SHELLS FOR HUNTING WATERFOWL, DUCKS AND GEESE. IT HAS BEEN REPLACED IN THAT CONTEXT WITH OTHER TYPES OF...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
NUMBERS ARE ON THE SCREEN. REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS, AND INDEPENDENTS. YOU CAN SEND US A TWEET. WHAT REASONING WOULD YOU GIVE UP ABOUT THE NEED TO MAKE...
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Horn, William - General Counsel
WE ADOPTED IN THIS COUNTRY UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF TEDDY ROOSEVELT WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE NORTH AMERICAN WILDLIFE MODEL. MOST PEOPLE DO NOT APPRECIATE...
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CALLER, -
GOVERNMENT. THEY ARE CONSTANTLY, CONSTANTLY SHUTTING DOWN ROADS, BLOCKING ROADS, DIGGING DITCHES, PUTTING GATES UP, RESTRICTING OUR ACCESS ON PUBLIC...
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CALLER, -
RIVER SYSTEM OR WHATEVER. BUT IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE SOME CHIEF BUREAUCRAT IN SOME AREA THAT JUST DECIDES, HEY, I WANT TO BLOCK OFF THIS AREA. WHAT DO THEY...
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Horn, William - General Counsel
BEEN LEVELS OF INCREASED HOSTILITY FROM THE FEDERAL LAND AGENCIES AND A LOT OF FRUSTRATION HAS BOILED UP. I THINK THE CALLER IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. RATHER...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
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Horn, William - General Counsel
THE BILL WAS VERY CAREFULLY PUT TOGETHER IN COOPERATION WITH THE HUNTING AND ANGLING COMMUNITY. IT IS A HUNTING AND FISHING BILL. HOST: OHIO ON THE REPUBLICAN...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
BON JOUR. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. YES OR NO RESPONSES.
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CALLER, -
HAVE YOU EVER SHOT A POLAR BEAR? GUEST: I HAVE PERSONALLY NOT. CALLER: HAVE YOU EVER SHOT A WOLF? GUEST: I HAVE NOT. CALLER: HAVE YOU EVER SHOT A SNOW...
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CALLER, -
CALLER:WHY ARE YOU ASKING THESE QUESTIONS? GIVE
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Horn, William - General Counsel
US THE REASONING. CALLER: I AM TRYING TO ESTABLISH THE CREDIBILITY OF YOUR GUEST AS A HUNTER. GUEST: I HAVE BEEN A HUNTER FOR PROBABLY 40
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CALLER, -
PLUS YEARS, PRIMARILY A BIRD AND
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Horn, William - General Counsel
DUCK HUNTER MOSTLY OUT HERE IN THE WESTERN MOUNTAINS OF VIRGINIA AND WEST VIRGINIA. DUCK HUNTING, QUITE A BIT. I DO NOT DO MUCH BIG GAME HUNTING. AN...
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CALLER, -
HOST: WE WILL LEAVE IT THERE. WHERE DO YOU MOSTLY HUNT?
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
GUEST: MOSTLY ON PUBLIC LAND. WE PAY
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Horn, William - General Counsel
SPECIAL FEES TO DO THAT. I AM REALLY INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN ACCESS TO PUBLIC LAND SO WE CAN CONTINUE THESE ACTIVITIES. HOST: WHAT...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
THAT IS HEAVILY REGULATED BY THE STATE'S. THEY ESTABLISHED THE METHODS AND THE MEANS. YOU HAVE
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Horn, William - General Counsel
TO HAVE THE REQUISITE LICENSES AND FEES TO GO ON TO THOSE PUBLIC LANDS. YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE ENFORCED BY GAME WARDENS, FISH...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
SOCIETY WAS MISLABELED. I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR
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CALLER, -
ORGANIZATION, IT MIGHT BE MISLABELED BECAUSE, TO ME, IT IS AN UNFAIR BUSINESS. YOU WALK OUT THERE WITH HIGH- TECH GEAR. YOU HAVE NIGHT VISION, A TREE...
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Horn, William - General Counsel
THE FIELD AND HUNT WITH BOWS AND ARROWS. MOST OF US WHO DO OUR BIRD HUNTING ARE USING A SHOTGUN TECHNOLOGY, EFFECTIVELY THE SAME OF 1880 THAT HAS NOT...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
THE ONLY PARTS OF AMERICA WHERE YOU HAVE SUBSISTENCE HUNTING ANYMORE IN AMERICA IS REMOTE PARTS OF
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Horn, William - General Counsel
ALASKA WITH THEY DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO OTHER FORMS OF FOOD STUFFS. FOR MOST, THIS IS A CHOICE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN AUGMENT YOUR DIET WITH VENISON OR DUCKS....
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
WAS CURIOUS ON HOW COME -- OK, WE PAY
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CALLER, -
BIG MONEY FOR OUR LICENSES AND OUR GAME STAMPS. OK, WHEN IT COMES TO CALIFORNIA, WE ARE LIMITED IN THE NUMBER OF FURS THAT WE SHOOT. WHEN THEY GET TO...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
HOST: THAT GIVES YOU ACCESS FOR WHATEVER THE SEASON IS IT? CALLER: YES, IT DOES. GUEST: IF YOU WANT TO GO DUCK
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
HUNTING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BIRD STAMP THAT
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Horn, William - General Counsel
NOW COSTS $15. THERE IS A PROPOSAL TO RAISE IT TO $25. YOU HAVE TO HAVE IN YOUR POSSESSION TO HUTNNT DUCKS OR GEESE. IN MEXICO, THAT IS A DIFFERENT SOVEREIGN...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. I AM AN AVID
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CALLER, -
HUNTER AND FISHERMAN. SOMETIMES THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY POSES WAY TOO OF AN OPPOSING VIEW TO THESE ACTIVITIES. I DO HAVE ONE COMMENT TO MAKE ABOUT JUST HUNTING...
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Horn, William - General Counsel
THINK WE RESPECT THOSE PEOPLE MAKING THOSE CHOICES. ONE, IN MOST STATES, THERE ARE WANT AND WASTE LAWS. IF YOU TAKE A DEER, MOOSE, OR ELK, YOU ARE UNDER...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
OF THE VILLAGERS OF THERE FROM WHERE THE BEARS WERE
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Horn, William - General Counsel
TAKEN. AND FRANKLY PART OF THE CANADIAN HUNTING PROGRAMS ARE OPERATED BY LOCAL, NATIVE HUNTING GROUPS. THEY ESTABLISHED THE HUNTING LEVELS AND ARE THE...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
I WAS A DEER HUNTING WITH A FRIEND OF MINE.
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CALLER, -
WE PARKED IN A NATIONAL FOREST. TWO OTHE RGUYS SHOWED UP. WE WERE STOP BYPED BY THE PETA PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DID NOT WANT TO HUNT ON THE LAND. THERE...
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Horn, William - General Counsel
AGENDA. I THINK THE LEVEL OF PUBLIC SUPPORT WOULD DROP SUBSTANTIALLY. THEY REALLY DO NOT SUPPORT HUMANE ACTIVITIES OR TAKE CARE OF LOCAL CATS AND DOGS....
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| 00:25:01 |
Echevarria, Pedro - Host
GUEST: WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS THE ABSENCE OF THE EXPRESS REFERENCES TO AND GOING AND HUNTING AND IT HAS GENERATED A VARIETY
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Horn, William - General Counsel
OF NUISANCE LAWSUITS AND THE RICH PEOPLE ARE NOW ARGUING THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT EXPRESSLY PROVIDED FOR THAT THE AGENCIES HAVE TO BAN IT AND JUMP THROUGH...
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| 00:26:23 |
Echevarria, Pedro - Host
IS A BALANCE IN SOME PARTS. GUEST: HUNTING KEEPS THE HERDS AT A MUCH MANAGEABLE LEVELS.
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Horn, William - General Counsel
THERE IS A CLASSIC CASE IN POINT IN THE D.C. AREA. YOU CAN TAKE EIGHT OR NINE IN THE YEAR. VIRGINIA HAS A VERY LIBERAL SEASON. MOST OF THE STATES DO BECAUSE...
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CALLER, -
PAY FOR SOME OF THESE LICENSING FEES AND SUCH, HOW CAN A LOCAL FAMILY SUPPLEMENT THEIR FOOD SOURCES WITH THE LOCAL GAME AND STILL, I GUESS CANNOT BE...
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Horn, William - General Counsel
CAN SHOW A LEVEL OF ECONOMIC HARDSHIP THAT YOU CAN GET THE LEVEL AT A REDUCED RATE. MOST STATES HAVE HUNTERS FOR THE HUNGRY WHERE A HUNTER CAN DONATE...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
AND THE SUB -- BY SEN. LISA
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Horn, William - General Counsel
MERKOURKAWSKI. THERE ARE OTHER VERSIONS SITTING OVER THERE. WILL WE BE ABLE TO PERSUADE THE SENATE TO SIMILARLY AGGREGATE THOSE DIFFERENT BILLS TO CREATE...
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Horn, William - General Counsel
VOTES WERE REPUBLICAN. WE DID GET 39 FAVORABLE DEMOCRATIC VOTES. I WOULD EXPECT A SIMILAR PARTISAN SPLIT IN THE SENATE. MR. RIEDEID HAS NOT SHOWN A PREDILECTION...
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CALLER, -
IT CROSSES MULTIPLE TYPES OF DOMAINS, MEANING STATE PARKS, COUNTIES, NATIONAL LAND, AND THE REASON I AM WORRIED ABOUT THE BILL YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH...
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Horn, William - General Counsel
OBVIOUSLY, SAFETY IS ALWAYS A CONCERN. ANYONE WHO GOES OUT INTO THE WOODS AND FIELDS WITH A FIRE ARM IS ALWAYS EXTRAORDINARILY CONSCIOUS OF THAT. THE...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM." GUEST: WE HAVE SEEN TWO THINGS HAPPEN. WE HAVE BEGUN TO SEE THIS PREPARATION FROM ANIMAL RIGHTS
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Horn, William - General Counsel
RADICALS SEEKING TO CLOSE THIS LAND SAYING THAT THIS DOES NOT MAKE EXPRESS REFERENCES FOR ANGLING AND HUNTING. WE SEE A PROBLEM COMING. YOU DO NOT BUILD...
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CALLER, -
INTRODUCED THE WOLVES BACK IN. THEY DO NOT READ SIGNS, THEY DO NOT KNOW WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO STAY. WHERE WERE THEY WHEN PEOPLE PUT PYTHONS, A CHINESE...
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Horn, William - General Counsel
OF SPECIES HAVE COME IN, SOMETIMES DELIBERATELY AND SOMETIMES BY MISTAKE. SEA LAMPREYS GOT IN THROUGH NIAGARA FALLS AND WHEN THEY FIRST CAME IN, THEY...
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Horn, William - General Counsel
IN VIRGINIA IS A TWO-DAY CLASS YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND PASS A WRITTEN TEST BEFORE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PURCHASE A HUNTING LICENSE. I CAN SAY ONE OF THE...
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CALLER, -
SHOOT ONE GEAR, AND MY BROTHER WOULD CUT THE DEAL UP AND WE WOULD EAT IT. THAT IS WHAT IT WAS FOR. THAT IS WHAT THE THEME WAS WHEN IT STARTED. YOU HAUNT...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
HUNTER EDUCATION. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. FRANKLY, HUNTING IS SAFER THAN BICYCLING IN THIS COUNTRY.
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Horn, William - General Counsel
LET'S BE HONEST. THERE IS ALWAYS SOME INEVITABLE SMALL PERCENTAGE OF HUMAN BEINGS THAT WILL NOT LISTEN WITH THE PUT THEM BEHIND THE WHEEL OF A CAR...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
AREAS, YOU HAVE SPECIAL DEER HUNT TO CONTROL
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Horn, William - General Counsel
THE POPULATION AND YOU MAY BE LIMITED TO JUST USING A SHOTGUN WITH A SLUG, THAT HAS A MUCH SHORTER RANGE THAN A RIFLE WOULD. WHEN WE TALK KANT, YOU USE...
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| 00:41:12 |
Echevarria, Pedro - Host
GUEST: WE WILL CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE SPORTSMAN ALLIANCE AND CONTINUE THE HERITAGE AND TRADITIONS. IF WE DO NOT GET
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Horn, William - General Counsel
THE BILL PASSED THIS CONGRESS, WE WILL COME BACK. WHEN A SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCE 12 YEARS AGO. WE PASSED THE WILDLIFE REFUGE BILL TO MAKE HUNTING AND FISHING...
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Echevarria, Pedro - Host
LEGISLATION,
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