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REFERENCED EARLIER THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES" TALKING ABOUT
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| 00:00:19 |
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HOW THE CANDIDATES THIS YEAR REFLECT AMERICA. WE HAVE A MORMON CANDIDATE. WE HAVE A CONSERVATIVE CATHOLIC CANDIDATE. WE HAVE PRESIDENT OBAMA WHO SHARED...
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| 00:00:40 |
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IN AMERICAN LIFE. WE, AS YOU SAY, WE GOT -- WE HAD TWO MORMON CANDIDATES ACTUALLY ON THE CAMPAIGN. NOW JON HUNTSMAN IS OUT BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IF MITT...
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| 00:01:34 |
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IT MENTIONS THAT WHEN JOHN F. KENNEDY WAS ELECTED AS THE FIRST CANDIDATE BUT THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF VARIETY IN THE SCOPE OF CHRISTIANITY. GUEST: ONE...
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| 00:01:55 |
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THERE WAS A LOT OF ANTI-CATHOLIC SENTIMENT IN THE COUNTRY AND I THINK KENNEDY'S ELECTION AS PRESIDENT REALLY MARKED THE MAINSTREAMING OF CATHOLICISM...
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| 00:03:03 |
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STUDY THEY DID. YOU CAN FIND MORE ON THEIR WEB SITE PUBLICRELIGION.ORG. TELL US HOW RELIGION IS PLAYING A ROLE IN THIS CAMPAIGN COMPARED TO PAST ELECTION...
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| 00:03:21 |
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BEFORE JOHN F. KENNEDY WAS HOW INDEPENDENT WILL YOU BE FROM THE HIERARCHY OF YOUR TRADITION? YOU KNOW, WILL THE POPE BE -- THERE WERE ACTUALLY POLITICAL...
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| 00:04:33 |
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OR SHE GOES TO? GUEST: IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. HOST: ACTUALLY, I USED THE WORD CHURCH BUT THAT'S PRESUMPTIVE. IT COULD BE A SYNAGOGUE. MOSQUE. GUEST:...
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| 00:04:44 |
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ONE JUST EXAMPLE IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ONE ON RECORD ATHEIST IN ALL OF CONGRESS SO NOT JUST IN
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| 00:04:50 |
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THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH BUT IN THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH AND, YOU KNOW, THE AMERICAN -- AMERICANS ARE SORT OF KNOWN ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO WESTERN EUROPE...
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| 00:05:29 |
HOST, -
RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS LOST MEMBERS OR BARELY KEPT PACE FROM 1990 TO 2008 WHILE THE U.S. POPULATION ACTUALLY GREW. AND IT SHOWS A DECREASE IN THE PRACTICE...
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| 00:05:54 |
GUEST, -
THAN OLDER AMERICANS BUT EVEN THAN AMERICANS IN PREVIOUS GENERATIONS AT THAT AGE, TO BE UNAFFILIATED. THEY'RE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE UNAFFILIATED. IN...
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| 00:06:44 |
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OF RELIGION AND ALSO AN EDITORIAL BOARD MEMBER OF RELIGION IN POLITICS AT THE JOURNAL OF AMERICAN POLITICAL SCIENCE ASSOCIATION. LET'S GO TO THE...
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| 00:07:05 |
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THINKS HE CAN TELL US WHAT WE CAN OR CAN'T DO. I THOUGHT THERE WAS SUCH A SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE AND TO ME, THIS IS NOT SEPARATION OF CHURCH...
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| 00:07:57 |
GUEST, -
OBAMA WAS ELECTED, THERE WAS CLEAR DATA SHOWING THAT DEMOCRATS WERE MUCH LESS LIKELY TO BE PERCEIVED AS FRIENDLY TO RELIGION THAN REPUBLICANS. HOWEVER,...
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| 00:09:28 |
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AND WE CAN SEE THAT 48% SIDE WITH RELIGIOUS LEADERS AND 45% WITH THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SO NOT TOO -- NOT TOP HEAVY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. GUEST:...
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| 00:09:47 |
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ARE SYMPATHETIC OF RELIGIOUS LEADERS WITH 46% SYMPATHETIC TO THE PRESIDENT'S ADMINISTRATION, MEN, 49% VS. 44% SLIGHTLY MORE SYMPATHETIC TO THE RELIGIOUS...
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| 00:10:53 |
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SEE THE BREAKDOWNS HERE AMONG ALL AMERICANS, WHITE EVANGELICALS, WHITE MAIN LINE, ALL CATHOLICS AND GOING DOWN FROM THERE. MINORITY, PROTESTANTS AND...
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| 00:11:23 |
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US. BUT THE FIRST AMENDMENT. GUEST: SURE. FIRST AMENDMENT HAS TWO PIECES TO IT, RIGHT, AND THERE'S THE RELIGIOUS LIBERTY SIDE OF THE -- OF THE FIRST...
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| 00:11:32 |
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THERE'S ALSO THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE SIDE TO THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND I THINK SOME OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING PARTICULARLY IN THESE RECENT DEBATES...
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| 00:12:46 |
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HEARD ONE PERSON MENTION THE EXTREME AND RADICAL VIEWS OF OUR PRESIDENT OR TAKE JUSTICE GINSBURG, FOR INSTANCE, WHO SAID SHE PREFERS THE AFRICAN...
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| 00:13:55 |
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THERE'S A CLEAR LINK IN THE CALLER'S CONVERSATION BETWEEN SORT OF LARGER VIEWS, MENTIONED BEING ABLE TO SPEAK FREELY IN PUBLIC WITHOUT BEING SORT...
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| 00:14:58 |
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HERE'S HOW THEY SEE IT AS ENDANGERED. GENERAL GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE AND RELIGION, 20%. HOSTILITY TOWARDS CHRISTIANS AND RELIGION, 10% AND IT GOES FROM...
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| 00:15:20 |
GUEST, -
CHANGE FOR AMERICAN PUBLIC LIFE. YOU LOOK BACK AT THE COMPOSITION OF THE SUPREME COURT, FOR EXAMPLE, IT HAS BEEN LONG DOMINATED BY PROTESTANTS, PARTICULARLY...
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| 00:16:25 |
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I'M STRUCK BY LISTENING TO ALL THESE THINGS IN TERMS OF HOW VAGUE INDIVIDUAL RELIGIOUS BELIEF CAN BE. WHAT A RELIGION CAN
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| 00:16:31 |
CALLER, -
BE. AND I'M THINKING OF THE MORMONS IN THE 1800'S HAD POLYGAMY AS A BASIC TENET OF THEIR RELIGION. AND OVER TIME AND I'M NOT SURE TO THE SUPREME COURT...
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| 00:18:13 |
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RELIGIOUS LIBERTY, EVEN AS
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| 00:18:15 |
GUEST, -
GUARANTEED IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION, IS NOT ABSOLUTE. I MEAN, THE CALLER IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT THIS. THERE'S PLENTY OF CASES,...
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| 00:19:15 |
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REPRESENTATIVE DEBBIE WASSERMAN-SCHULTZ FIRED BACK ON THE ORRIN HATCH'S CLAIM THAT DEMOCRATS HAVE ATTACKED HIS RELIGION IN THE FALL ELECTION SAYING THE...
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| 00:19:35 |
GUEST, -
RELIGION, YOU KNOW, OBAMA HAD HIS OWN RELIGION CHALLENGES IN 2008 CAMPAIGN WITH REVEREND WRIGHT IN THE VERY PUBLIC FALLING OUT WITH HIS OWN PASTOR ...
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| 00:20:47 |
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A GOOD ONE IN WHICH HOW MUCH CAN THE CANDIDATE CONNECT IT TO THEMSELVES. HOW SIMILAR OR DIFFERENT
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| 00:20:55 |
GUEST, -
DO YOU SEE THE CANDIDATE'S RELIGION TO YOUR OWN? WHAT WE SEE IN THOSE CATEGORIES THAT AMONG AMERICANS WHO SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT MITT ROMNEY'S RELIGION...
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| 00:21:49 |
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DO NOT BELIEVE THAT. AGAIN, 7 IN 10 AMERICANS SAY THAT THE MORMON FAITH
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| 00:21:52 |
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AND THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION, VIRTUALLY ALL MORMONS, BY THE WAY, SAY THAT THE MORMON FAITH IS A CHRISTIAN RELIGION. ABOUT 7 IN 10 AMERICANS SAY THAT BUT...
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| 00:22:18 |
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QUITE ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A REALLY QUICK QUESTION FOR THE GENTLEMAN. I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED
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| 00:22:25 |
CALLER, -
ABOUT RELIGION AND THE 2012 CAMPAIGN. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO MITT ROMNEY AND PAUL RYAN. PAUL RYAN'S BUDGET WHICH HE JUST PUT OUT AND IS VERY...
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| 00:23:09 |
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THE DIVISIONS BETWEEN THE PARTIES ON RELIGION THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE OFTEN IS REPUBLICANS, YOU KNOW, QUOTING ONE PART OF THE BIBLE AND DEMOCRATS...
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| 00:24:14 |
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SITE. THAT WEB SITE IS PUBLICRELIGION.ORG. GUEST: FAIR QUESTION. WE'RE NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY PARTICULAR RELIGIOUS GROUPS DESPITE THE NAME, RELIGION....
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| 00:24:28 |
GUEST, -
FACT THAT WE STUDY THE RULE OF RELIGION IN THE AMERICAN PUBLIC LIFE. MOSTLY THROUGH PUBLIC OPINION POLLING. WE DO ABOUT 20 POLLS A YEAR ON RELIGION...
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| 00:24:46 |
HOST, -
UNDERSTAND THE ROLE OF RELIGION IN AMERICAN PUBLIC LIFE BY CONDUCTING HIGH QUALITY, PUBLIC OPINION SURVEYS AND QUALITATIVE RESEARCH. MOBILE, ALABAMA,...
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| 00:25:08 |
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IS THE FOURTH COMMANDMENT. AND IT'S TO KEEP THE TRUE SABBATH DAY WHICH IS THE SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEK AND THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DECEIVED AND...
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| 00:25:41 |
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YOU CONNECT WITH? CALLER: NO, MA'AM. I BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST AND JESUS SAID BE YE NOT OF THIS WORLD SO FOR IF YOU
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| 00:25:49 |
CALLER, -
ARE OF THIS WORLD, YOU DO NOT LOVE ME. HOST: YOU DO NOT VOTE? CALLER: NO, MA'AM, I PUT MY FAITH IN THE LORD AND THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY THAT PRACTICES...
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| 00:26:03 |
CALLER, -
IT. HOST: OK. GUEST: I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT. WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT, I THINK, THAT COMMENT IS IT ACTUALLY REFLECTS A VIEW THAT WAS MUCH MORE
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| 00:26:14 |
GUEST, -
PROMINENT AMONG EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS IN THE COUNTRY IN THE 1960'S THAN IT IS TODAY. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK BACK AT REVEREND JERRY FALWELL,...
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| 00:27:38 |
HOST, -
THE PRIMARY FIRST. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES, THE PROTESTANTS MAKE THE BIGGEST BLOCK IN
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| 00:27:45 |
GUEST, -
THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES CERTAINLY AND WITH MANY STATES MAKING UP AS MUCH AS 6 IN 10 OR MORE PRIMARY VOTERS AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IN THE DEBATE IS...
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| 00:29:01 |
HOST, -
TALKED ABOUT JESUS CHRIST WAS RIGHT ON THE MONEY TO A
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| 00:29:05 |
CALLER, -
VERY EXTENT. SAY THAT'S OLD, JESUS CHRIST IS NEVER OLD. IF THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD ADHERE TO THAT, THAT WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE IN. ME BEING...
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| 00:33:10 |
GUEST, -
BE ANTI-RELIGIOUS. THAT STUCK IN A LOT OF WAYS, THE KIND OF VALUES VOTERS CAMPAIGNED IN 2004 AND THERE WAS SOME PUSHBACK TO IT, TAKING A BLACK EYE ON...
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| 00:34:31 |
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OF WHAT'S GOING ON, I FANCY MYSELF A POLITICAL ATHEIST AND RELIGIOUS AGNOSTIC. HOST: WE DON'T HAVE A LINE FOR THAT, SO -- CALLER: YOU SHOULD HAVE ONE....
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| 00:34:51 |
CALLER, -
PREDICATED ON A JIHAD, IN THE FORM OF THE HOLY CRUSADES WHEN IN THE NAME OF CHRIST, OK, WE WOULD GO AND THEY WOULD GO RATHER TO THE MIDDLE EAST AND KILL...
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| 00:36:06 |
GUEST, -
FOR THE RECORD, THE MORMON CHURCH HAS SORT OF OFFICIALLY STOPPED THIS PRACTICE OF SORT OF MASS BAPTIZING JEWS. IT'S A BELIEF THAT IF ONE SORT OF DOES...
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| 00:36:46 |
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SURVIVOR, JEWISH RIGHTS ACTIVIST AND HE WAS VERY UPSET BECAUSE HIS PARENTS WERE BAPTIZED AFTER THEY DIED. IT'S A CONTROVERSIAL RITUAL THAT MORMONS BELIEVE...
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| 00:37:27 |
CALLER, -
AND CAUSING A CONTROVERSY THAT DOESN'T REALLY EXIST. THERE IS NO WAR ON RELIGION AS PROGRAMMED IN THE RELIGIOUS DICTATORSHIP PREVENTING THE RELIGIOUS...
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| 00:38:03 |
GUEST, -
EVANGELICAL COMMUNITY OF THE OVERPOLITICALIZATION OF THE FAITH, THIS COMES FROM YOUNGER EVANGELICALS WHO GREW UP WITH THE HEIGHT OF THE CHRISTIAN...
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| 00:39:00 |
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AND INTERSECTS WITH AMERICAN VALUES ON THEIR WEB SITE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING. GUEST: THANK YOU, ENJOYED IT. HOST: COMING...
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| 00:39:14 |
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DIRECTOR OF THE HEALTH RATINGS CENTER LOOKING AT DOCTORS PUSHING BACK AGAINST MEDICAL TESTS AND CENTER FOR PUBLIC INTEGRITY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR LOOKING...
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