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AND LAURIE FIRESTONE SERVED FIRST LADIES FROM LADY BIRD JOHNSON TO LAURA BUSH. ALL THREE WORKED IN A WARTIME WHITE HOUSE. WHETHER IT WAS ORGANIZING...
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| 00:00:47 |
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RENOWNED AUTHOR. BETWEEN 1987 AND 2003 HE SERVED AS DIRECTOR OF THE HERBERT HOOVER PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY. THE DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY,...
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| 00:03:23 |
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HOUSE HISTORY REPRESENTED HERE.
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| 00:03:25 |
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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DEFINES THE WHITE HOUSE SOCIAL SECRETARY, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A JOB THAT I THINK IS -- IS REDEFINED IN SOME WAYS WITH EVERY OKAYCCUPANT...
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| 00:06:21 |
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QUESTION. BECAUSE YOU HEARD THEM TALK ABOUT HOW MRS. JOHNSON CAME INTO THE WHITE HOUSE. WELL, IT WASN'T LIKE WHEN ANYBODY ELSE CAME INTO THE WHITE...
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| 00:10:08 |
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I CAME ACROSS A -- AN ORAL HISTORY WITH A MEMBER OF THE MARINE BAND. HE WAS A VIOLINIST, RUSSIAN VIOLINIST, GREAT ARTIST, WHO COMPLAINED THAT AT THE FIRST...
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| 00:10:43 |
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I'M JUST
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| 00:10:48 |
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GIVING YOU THE OPPORTUNITY. THE -- THE VIOLINIST SAID MOZART, AND YOU ALLEGEDLY SAID, WELL,
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| 00:10:56 |
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KNOCK IT OFF. >> HE WANTS SHOW TUNES. >> "THE YELLOW ROSE OF TEXAS." OH, NO, NO,
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| 00:11:06 |
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NO. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER MRS. BUSH WAS GIVEN YELLOW ROSES FROM
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| 00:11:09 |
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COUNTRY TO COUNTRY AND STATE TO STATE, BUT I THINK MRS. JOHNSON WOULD -- EVERY TIME SHE WENT SOME PLACE AND SOMEBODY WOULD PLAY "THE YELLOW ROSE OF TEXAS"...
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| 00:11:53 |
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HE DONATED THE WHITE HOUSE PIANO TO THE TRUMAN LIBRARY AND WENT OUT TO INDEPENDENCE TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION AT THE TRUMAN LIBRARY. HE SAT DOWN,...
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| 00:12:49 |
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MAY BE A CUTE LITTLE STORY OR SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN WRITTEN, BUT I THINK SHE HAD A VERY UNIQUE ABILITY TO REALLY BE A VERY WARM AND FRIENDLY, AND...
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| 00:14:20 |
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ONLY BY EACH PERSON WHO HOLDS IT BUT ABOVE ALL BY EACH FIRST LADY. >> WELL, I ALWAYS THINK THAT I WAS VERY LUCKY BEING EIGHT YEARS AT THE VICE PRESIDENT...
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| 00:14:32 |
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CERTAINLY KNEW WHAT SHE LIKED, AND SO SHE -- EVEN THERE, SHE WAS NEVER A MICROMANAGER. I MEAN, SHE TRUSTED HER STAFF, AND SHE BELIEVED IN THEM. SHE...
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| 00:15:04 |
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AN INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT INVOLVING THE PRESIDENT OF MEXICO. COULD YOU DESCRIBE THE DIPLOMATIC FUNCTION OF THE SOCIAL SECRETARY. >> I THINK THIS STORY,...
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| 00:15:22 |
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WELL, WITH YOU THE PRESIDENT OF SALINAS -- PRESIDENT SALINAS CAME FOR A STATE DINNER, AND MANY OF YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT HE WAS A HARVARD GRADUATE. IT...
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| 00:16:00 |
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AND HE ALWAYS DID
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| 00:16:01 |
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A BEAUTIFUL JOB, AND ON THE MENU HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO A MEXICAN FANTASY, AND BECAUSE WE WERE ENTERTAINING SO OFTEN, WE DIDN'T HAVE THEM DO SAMPLES...
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| 00:19:20 |
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TALKING ABOUT YOUR MOST RECENT EMPLOYER. TELL US SOMETHING ABOUT MRS. REAGAN, WHO AS WE ALL KNOW HAD A KIND OF ROUGH TIME AT THE START OF IT WITH THE...
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| 00:19:45 |
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| 00:19:48 |
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| 00:19:50 |
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I CATHY, YOU WERE THERE ON 9/11. WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER OF THAT DAY? >> WELL, I ALWAYS -- I'M ALWAYS WAS BIG ON A SATURDAY AND
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| 00:22:01 |
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WE'VE HAD SEVERAL WEEKS. BEAUTIFUL WEATHER, ULTIMATELY BOTH IN NEW YORK AND IN WASHINGTON. THAT HELPED THE RELIEF WORKERS AND EMERGENCY WORKERS. AT...
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| 00:26:38 |
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TO DEAL WITH. OUT ON PENNSYLVANIA
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| 00:26:40 |
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AVENUE WITH DEMONSTRATORS, BUT HE DIDN'T STAY OUTSIDE.
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| 00:26:45 |
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IT OCCASIONALLY INVADED SOCIAL EVENTS. CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT IT WAS LIKE? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE TO IMAGINE LINDA AND LUCY'S ROOMS FACED
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| 00:27:01 |
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PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE, AND THERE WERE DEMONSTRATORS OUT THERE THROUGH THE EVENING. THEY WOULD GO INTO THEIR ROOMS, GO TO BED AT NIGHT, AND THERE WERE CHANTERS...
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| 00:30:24 |
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WAS INVITED AND THEN, I GUESS, HE WROTE, PROBABLY, AN OP-ED
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| 00:30:30 |
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PIECE IN THE "NEW YORK
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| 00:30:32 |
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TIMES" HOW TERRIBLE THE JOHNSONS WERE AND HOW TERRIBLE THE WHOLE ADMINISTRATION WAS AND HE WASN'T GOING TO COME TO THE WHITE HOUSE FESTIVAL OF THE ARTS,...
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| 00:31:09 |
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AT ARRIVING TO THE LADIES' LUNCH. THE LADIES HAD
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| 00:31:16 |
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GATHERED, IT WAS ONE OF MRS. JOHNSON'S WOMEN DOERS LUNCHEONS. THERE WERE TWO THING THAT SHE DID THAT WE NEVER COULD GET A GOOD WORD FOR, WOMEN DOERS...
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| 00:34:56 |
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OF COURSE, ALSO HAD THE FIRST GULF WAR. WHICH CERTAINLY DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME IMPACT -- >> OR AS LONG. >> -- AS VIETNAM, BUT IT MUST HAVE TRANSFORMED...
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| 00:35:12 |
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DID. I MEAN, I THINK THAT WAS THE ONLY
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| 00:35:15 |
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CALM PERIOD IN TERMS OF EVENTS,
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| 00:35:19 |
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BECAUSE UP UNTIL THAT TIME AND THEN AFTERWARDS, WE WERE, YOU KNOW, HAVING STATE DINNERS ONCE A MONTH AND ENTERTAINING NON-STOP, BUT ABSOLUTELY, WHEN...
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| 00:36:23 |
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OF YOUR FAVORITE MEMORIES, POSITIVE MEMORIES. AS I SAID, WE'RE SAVING JOAN CRAWFORD FOR LAST. TELL US ABOUT RUNNING INTO, I SUPPOSE, PEOPLE WHO YOU'D...
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| 00:36:49 |
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GUESS, '83 -- OR '84 WHEN I HAD FIRST BEGUN MY JOB AS A DEPUTY SOCIAL SECRETARY, AND, ACTUALLY, THEY CAME TO ME 24 HOURS BEFORE, AND IT WAS BEFORE THE...
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| 00:39:20 |
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A DINNER FOR QUEEN ELIZABETH, BUT ANY EVENT, HOPE WAS THERE, AND PRESIDENT REAGAN INTRODUCED HOPE AS SOMEONE WHO HAD PERFORMED FOR SEVEN AMERICAN PRESIDENTS...
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| 00:39:50 |
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HAD -- WE ALWAYS HAD AN
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| 00:39:53 |
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ECLECTIC MISS. I REMEMBER HAVING LYLE
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| 00:39:55 |
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LOVITT, WE HAD NATALIE COLE, WHO WAS FABULOUS, FOR ONE OF THE DINNERS. WE HAD OPERA SINGERS, WE HAD THE BOYS CHOIR OF HARLEM, I THINK, FOR ONE OF THE...
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| 00:40:39 |
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OF POLITICS? >> NO, WE DIDN'T ASK THEM. NO. NO, BUT THEY -- NO, MOST OF
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| 00:40:51 |
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THEM USUALLY CAME FROM NEW YORK, AND SO I THINK WE SENT THEM SHUTTLE TICKETS, A DRIVER WOULD PICK THEM UP AT THE AIRPORT, WE'D PUT THEM UP, THEY WOULD...
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| 00:41:18 |
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THEY
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| 00:41:19 |
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WERE TREATED WELL. IT WAS FINE. THE WONDERFUL THING, ONE OF THE MANY WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT BEING AT THE WHITE HOUSE WERE THOSE WHITE HOUSE OPERATORS,...
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| 00:43:21 |
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YOU COULDN'T BECAUSE OF THE CULTURAL CONDESENTION IN TEXAS. >> I COULDN'T DO A BARBECUE EITHER. WE DID DO A BARBECUE AT THE TAIL END. IT WAS A STAFF...
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| 00:43:39 |
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SAID, ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR YOU HERE, THEY WON'T FEEL THEY REALLY WORKED FOR YOU IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANY TEXAS BARBECUE, SO WE DID HAVE A TEXAS...
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| 00:46:13 |
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ONE, BUT -- >> WERE THERE FAVORITE
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| 00:46:17 |
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ENTERTAINERS? >> FAVORITE? >> FAVORITE ENTERTAINERS? >> WELL, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BOB
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| 00:46:23 |
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HOPE, IT REMINDED ME HE CAME A
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| 00:46:25 |
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COUPLE OF TIMES TO OUR STATE
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| 00:46:27 |
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DINNERS. YOU KNOW, HE WOULD WALK
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| 00:46:29 |
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IN AND JUST ACT LIKE HE OWNED THE PLACE AND SAID I HAVE BEEN HERE SO MANY TIMES, YOU WEREN'T EVEN BORN WHEN I WAS HERE, SO HE WAS FUN, AND WE DID -- WE...
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| 00:47:38 |
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A BEAUTIFUL FIGURE, BUT SHE
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| 00:47:40 |
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WAS VERY CUTE, AND IT WAS CUTE OF HER TO WRITE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T REALIZE I SHOULD HAVE -- I WAS MAYBE NOT QUITE PROPERLY DRESSED. >> LET...
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| 00:47:58 |
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THAT BROADER CULTURE HAS BEEN COARSENS OVER THE LAST HALF CENTURY, HAS THAT, IN ANY WAY, FOUND ITS WAY IN THE WHITE HOUSE? HOW'S THE DRESS CODE,...
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| 00:48:18 |
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ORIGINALLY CAME TO A BLACK-TIE DINNER IN A LONG GOWN AND EVEN WORE LONG GLOVES WAY BACK, BUT THEY WEREN'T WEARING LONG GLOVES, BUT MANY PEOPLE, THEY...
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| 00:49:00 |
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FOR PUBLICITY, BUT WE ALL KNOW OF GATE CRASHERS. YOU HAD A RATHER DISTINGUISHED OFFICIAL PARTY CRASHER IN SENATOR THURMOND. >> OH, HE CRASHED ALL OF...
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| 00:49:20 |
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HAD
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| 00:49:22 |
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MS. PEACH BLOSSOM OR MS. WATERMELON QUEEN OR SOMETHING THAT HE WOULD SHOW UP WITH WHO WASN'T ON THE GUEST LIST. WELL, I WASN'T -- I WASN'T -- IT WAS...
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| 00:54:01 |
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FORDS WERE ENTERTAINING QUEEN ELIZABETH II AND SOMEONE HAD NOT CHECKED THE MUSIC PROGRAM, SO THE TIME CAME WHEN THE PRESIDENT INVITED HER MAJESTY TO TAKE...
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| 00:54:46 |
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AND AT THE ARRIVAL CEREMONY, THE PRESIDENT MAKES REMARKS FIRST AND GREETS THE DIGNITARY, IN THIS CASE, QUEEN ELIZABETH, AND THEY ARE ALL STANDING OUT...
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| 00:56:59 |
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IN, I GUESS, IT WAS 2003, WHEN THEY HOSTED A RETURN DINNER AT THE AMERICAN AMBASSADOR'S RESIDENCE, WINFIELD HOUSE, WHICH IS A STUNNING, STUNNING HOME,...
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| 00:59:31 |
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I WISH WE HAD MORE
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| 00:59:33 |
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TIME, BUT, CLEARLY, THINGS HAVE CHANGED, SOME
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| 00:59:38 |
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THINGS HAVEN'T CHANGED. PEOPLE STILL OCCASIONALLY TRY TO CHANGE PLACE CARDS TO GET CLOSER TO THE PRESIDENT. PEOPLE GO TO OUTLANDISH LENGTHS TO TRY TO...
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| 01:00:17 |
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TABLE THAT I WOULD THINK, GOSH, IF I WERE A GUEST AT THE DINNER TONIGHT, THAT'S WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO SIT, AND THIS DINNER, I THOUGHT, GOSH, I WOULD...
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| 01:00:59 |
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I MEAN, WE DID PASS A LOT
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| 01:01:01 |
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OF DRINKS, BUT SHE DIDN'T THERE THERE WAS GOING TO BE ENOUGH, SO SHE HAD HER OWN FLASK. ANYWAY, THE DINNER WAS SERVED, AND THEN THE -- IN JOAN CRAWFORD'S...
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| 01:01:37 |
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PASSING NOTES BACK AND FORTH DURING
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| 01:01:39 |
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THE
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| 01:01:40 |
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DINNER, BUT THEN THE DESSERT PLATES CAME,
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| 01:01:44 |
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AND CATHY DOUGLAS IS NOW A VERY GROWN-UP, VERY SOPHISTICATED LADY, BUT SHE WAS VERY NEW ON THE SCENE THEN, AND SO JOAN CRAWFORD, WHO WAS SEATED...
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| 01:02:49 |
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ME IN THANKS BESS ABELL, LAURIE FIRESTONE, AND CATHY FENTON? >> THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU ALL.
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.