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GOING LEGACIES OF THE CIVIL WAR, ISSUES AND CONTROVERSIES BEING BORNE OUT TODAY. THE GILDER LEHRMAN CENTER HOSTED THIS EVENT. IT IS 1:45. >> OKAY....
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| 00:00:36 |
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EVERYONE. I WAS IN A BUNCH OF SOUTHERN CHURCHES RECENTLY. YOU EITHER DO IT RIGHT OR YOU DON'T DO IT. YOU KNOW? WELCOME. I AM DAVID BLIGHT, DIRECTOR...
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| 00:11:18 |
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TEACHES TORTS AND OTHER THINGS. HE IS REALLY A
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CONSTITUTIONAL HISTORIAN AND A GREAT ONE. SEVERAL BOOKS, PATRIOTS AND COSMOPOLITANS. HIDDEN HISTORIES OF AMERICAN LAW. ACCIDENTAL REPUBLIC. CRIPPLED...
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| 00:11:46 |
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GET OBVIOUSLY
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| 00:11:47 |
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DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ON THIS HUGE PROBLEM OF WHAT IS A CIVIL WAR LEGACY. SO I AM GOING TO ASK ANDY TO GO FIRST. ANDY. TWO MINUTES. YOUR FAVORITE CIVIL...
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| 00:12:10 |
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A CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT THIS. WHAT POPPED INTO MY HEAD WHEN HE ASKED ME, A MEMORY I HADN'T THOUGHT OF IN A WHILE. WHEN I WAS 10 YEARS OLD, GREW UP IN...
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| 00:15:32 |
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GOOD PRESENTISM, AND BAD PRESENTISM. CAME OUT OF YOUR BOOK, GARY. THEY LOVED IT. BUT IT WAS -- >> AT LEAST ANDY AND I CAN GET INTO A DISCUSSION. >> I...
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| 00:15:47 |
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CONTRARY AND SAY THAT, I THINK
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THERE IS A DISTINCTION FOR ME
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AS A HISTORIAN OF THE CIVIL
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| 00:15:53 |
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WAR BETWEEN HISTORIAN LEGACY, HOW I THINK ABOUT THE MOST IMPORTANT HISTORICAL LEGACY AND WHAT I MIGHT THINK OF AS THE MOST IMPORTANT LIVING LEGACY....
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| 00:21:36 |
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AM GOING TO KEEP THIS VERY SHORT. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE FUN THIS AFTERNOON. I WILL MENTION TWO LEGACIES VERY QUICKLY. >> YOU ARE ALLOWED TWO....
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| 00:21:51 |
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THE ROOM FALL UNDER
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| 00:21:52 |
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THAT CATEGORY THE I DO. I GREW UP. I AM FROM LOS ANGELES. I LIVED THERE IN SOUTHERN COLORADO. THE CIVIL WAR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LOS ANGELES AND...
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| 00:24:12 |
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I KNOW. >> SOME TIMES THEY SEND
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| 00:24:14 |
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YOU E-MAILS. I GOT ONE LAST FALL. WISHING THAT I WOULD DEVELOP
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| 00:24:20 |
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A CASE
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| 00:24:21 |
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OF VIRULENT PANCREATIC CANCER. BECAUSE I AM MEAN TO THE CONFEDERACY. VIRULENT, THE VIRULENT KIND. >> THEY'RE RIGHT. BUT THE PRESCRIPTION IS TERRIBLE....
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| 00:24:41 |
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GOOD. >> THE BEST WAY FOR ME TO ILLUSTRATE THIS. I DON'T HAVE A
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| 00:24:45 |
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PARTICULARLY OBJECTIVE ANSWER. I HAVE
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| 00:24:47 |
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A SUBJECTIVE ANSWER. >> NONE OF US
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| 00:24:49 |
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ARE SUBJECTIVE. >> ALL RIGHT, I THINK IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
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| 00:25:01 |
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LEGACY. MY FAVORITE. IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO THINK ABOUT
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| 00:25:06 |
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MY VERY EXISTENCE WITHOUT THE CIVIL WAR. I GREW UP IN A WHITE HOUSE THAT HAD POLITICAL STRUGGLE. POLITICAL STRUGGLE OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS THE I...
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| 00:28:24 |
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THE LECTURE AND DAVID DAVIS WAS ONE OF THE GREAT
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| 00:28:28 |
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INSPIRATIONS FOR ME THE AS A JUNIOR IN COLLEGE. RIGHT DOWN THE WAY THAT I STARTED THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS IN A SEMINAR HE TAUGHT. I AM...
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| 00:31:37 |
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SUSTAINED MORAL AND LEGAL AND MILITARY
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| 00:31:40 |
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DELIBERATIONS ON WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A GREAT POWER. WE SEE IN THE LINCOLN ADMINISTRATION FOR THE FIRST TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY THAT I AM AWARE OF, A...
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| 00:33:23 |
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TO. ANYWAY. I'M GOING TO GO IN THE ORDER THAT THESE WERE RAISED. AND GET US ALL TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. ANDY. YOUR POINT ABOUT HOW DOES ONE UNDERSTAND...
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| 00:38:21 |
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FACT THAT -- MILLIONS OF NORTHERNERS FOUGHT THIS WAR TO SAVE THE UNION. THE UNITED STATES. IN FACT, I HAVE NEVER READ A BOOK ON THE CIVIL WAR WHERE...
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| 00:39:11 |
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HAVE MUCH OF A SENSE OF THE CIVIL WAR OR ANYTHING ELSE, IN OUR HISTORY. AND I THINK, AN INDICATION OF THAT IS THE HYSTERICAL TREATMENT OF EVERYTHING...
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| 00:41:01 |
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THERE. >> SURE. UH-HUH. >> ONE THING THAT JUST OCCURRED TO ME LISTENING TO THIS. I DON'T KNOW,
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| 00:41:06 |
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IF PEOPLE, HERE
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| 00:41:08 |
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WITH MUCH MORE HISTORICAL
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KNOWLEDGE THAN
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| 00:41:10 |
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ME. BEING SOME ONE THAT DOES QUITE A BIT OF POLITICAL ANALYSIS, I AGREE WITH THE NOTION OF, A REALLY BRIEF HISTORICAL MEMORY. I THINK NEWT GINGRICH...
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| 00:42:03 |
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| 00:42:07 |
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YOU VIZ ITSIT THE BATTLE PARKS THAT'S REALLY THE IMPRESSION YOU GET. IT'S NOT FOR YOU. IT IS FOR A GROUP OF PEOPLE. AT FIREST I THOUGHT THAT WAS ME...
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| 00:42:43 |
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IN THE IDEA OF COMPROMISE IN 1860 AT ALL. EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO TEACH. HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO THINK THAT IN 1860. >> WHO ARE YOU ROADING FOR INGROOTING...
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| 00:43:05 |
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PEOPLE INTO SLAVERY. IT'S HARD TO BACK THEM. THEY'RE THE ONE WHOSE ARE BARGAINING WITH
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| 00:43:10 |
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SEWARD OVER, SHUTTING DOWN THE SHOW. SO THAT -- THERE IS NO THREAT TO SLAVERY. EVERYTHING IS GOING TO, HE IS GOING TO GIVE AWAY THE STORE. LINCOLN...
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| 00:44:43 |
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WAR HISTORIAN. STARTED WRITING IN THE '40s. AND WAS PART OF THE GENERATION THAT, THAT -- -- WAS WISHING -- THERE HAD BEEN MORE OF A COMPROMISE CULTURE....
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| 00:45:04 |
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LEADERS. >> BLUNDERING GENERATION. >> BLUNDERING
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| 00:45:08 |
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GENERATION. YEAH. >> BUT ITS OURS OUR GENERATION. ALWAYS A TROUBLING PHRASE TO USE
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| 00:45:13 |
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AROUND
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| 00:45:16 |
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ANYBODY. LET'S JUST
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| 00:45:18 |
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SAY PEOPLE -- THAT WE HAVE BEEN, HAVE WE GROWN UP -- APPRECIATING CONFLICT? THAT ITS UNDERSTANDING HISTORICAL CHANGE AS CONFLICT. >> I CERTAINLY DO....
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| 00:45:37 |
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I FIND MYSELF IN A --
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| 00:45:39 |
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DIFFICULT PARADOX WHEN WEEP GET INTO THIS TOPIC.
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| 00:45:42 |
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I GUESS IT IS THE PLACE THAT I CHOOSE TO BE. WE MAKE COMPRO IS MYS ALL THE TIME, RIGHT. WE ARE COMPROMISING WITH ALL KINDS OF UNCONSCIONABLE BEHAVIOR...
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| 00:47:18 |
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RELATING TO THE INSTITUTION OF SLAVERY ITSELF. THE PLACE THEY'RE TRYING TO COMPROMISE IS ON THE EXTENSION OF SLAVERY. WHERE THE ARGUMENT IS. NO ONE...
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| 00:48:03 |
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IS, WHIVEN ISCH IS THAT THE CIVIL WAR EXPERIENCE FRAMES BOTH POWERFUL IMPULSE TOWARDS MORAL MODESTY ABOUT OUR PASSIONS AND ABOUT OUR VIEWS AND OBJECTIVES...
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| 00:48:55 |
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ENGAGED IN EVER SINCE. SO THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT,
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| 00:48:57 |
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BORROWS ON THE LANGUAGE OF THE ABOLITIONISTS. THE WOMAN'S RIGHT MOVEMENT, BORROWS AND WE HAVE ALL THE SOCIAL MOVEMENTS THAT ORGANIZE THEMSELVES SOCIAL...
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| 00:49:31 |
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WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE ENSLAVED. I'M GOING TO GO HERE. I THINK SLAYRY ISVERY IS A PARTICULAR KIND OF VIOLENCE...
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| 00:50:25 |
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NOTHING I'M SAYING SHOULD BE MISUNDERSTOOD. I THINK AT LEAST BY ME OR AS ANY KIND OF DEFENSE OF OR SYMPATHY FOR SLAVEHOLDING OR ANY KIND OF REDUCTION...
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| 00:52:39 |
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VIOLENCE, OF COURSE, AS WITH ALL THESE LEGACYIESLEGACIES. LET ME MOVE, THOUGH, TO A COMBINATION OF STEPHANIE AND GARY'S IDEAS. THE STORY. THIS BEGUILING,...
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| 00:53:28 |
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YOU AND I LEARNED SOMETHING ABOUT THIS WHEN WE WERE
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| 00:53:30 |
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IN JERUSALEM LAST SUMMER ABOUT WHAT IS IT LIKE EVEN IF YOU THINK YOU DON'T HAVE A
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| 00:53:35 |
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SENTIMENTAL OR ROMANTIC APPROACH TO THE CIVIL WAR. BY BEING AN AMERICAN HISTORIAN OF THE CIVIL WAR, YOU CAN BE SURE YOU DO, AND WE WERE TOLD THAT...
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| 00:54:18 |
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THEIR CIVIL WAR, AND, IN FACT, REENACTS
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| 00:54:21 |
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IT. >> WHO PUTS ROBERT E. LEE ON FIVE POSTAGE STAMPS? >> NO. >> SINCE HE DIED, UNITED STATES
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| 00:54:30 |
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POSTAGE STAMPS. THERE IS NO OTHER
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| 00:54:32 |
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LOSER IN A
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| 00:54:36 |
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SYL CIVIL WAR THAT ENDED UP ON FIVE POSTAGE STAMPS. >> EVEN ONE. >> EVEN ONE. >> THERE ARE SO MANY ECHOES OF THE CIVIL WAR AND POLITICAL QUARRELS IN...
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| 00:54:46 |
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| 00:54:47 |
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RICK PERRY
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| 00:54:49 |
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THREATENING CESSATION, ALL KINDS OF NULLIFICATION THREATS. SOMETIMES YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE HEARING OLD THREATS OF THE SAME DEBATES. >> NORMAN MAILER WANTED...
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| 00:55:08 |
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UPPER PENINSULA OF MICHIGAN,
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| 00:55:11 |
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TOO. >>
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| 00:55:13 |
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I THINK WHAT I THINK, ON THE ONE HAND I'M STRUCK BY THESE AND TROUBLED BY THESE EERIE
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| 00:55:21 |
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RESIDENCES, AND OTHER TIMES THEY SEEM LIKE THIN REFLECTIONS. I THINK PART OF IT IS THIS ROMANTIC STORY, THE CONFEDERATE APPEAL IS THE STORY OF A PRINCIPLED...
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| 00:56:41 |
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HEART. SCHOLARS. WHO CARES ABOUT SCHOLARS? I THINK THE SCHOOL OF INTERPRETATION TOOK A BRILLIANT TURN VERY QUICKLY, AND THAT WAS DISASSOCIATE THIS...
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| 00:58:25 |
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PEOPLE, GROWING AND GROWING AND GROWING. RACE IS AT THE HEART OF HOW THIS STORY PLAYED OUT, TO SAY THE LEAST. >> YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD TO BE REALISTIC...
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| 00:58:43 |
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I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GRADE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL TEXTBOOKS, BUT I WONDER HOW MANY STUDENTS OF AMERICAN HISTORY ARE ASKED TO READ ALEXANDER STEVENS'...
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| 00:59:14 |
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| 00:59:17 |
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OPEN ABOUT THE RACIAL IDEALOGY. >> I NEVER GOT MY STEAK, BY THE WAY. I WAS NEVER ISSUED MY STEAK. >> LARRY HAS A COUPLE BROKEN ONES. >> THAT'S WHEN YOU...
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| 00:59:37 |
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THE STEAKS. >> THE STORY OF
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| 00:59:42 |
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THE LOST CAUSE HAS
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| 00:59:45 |
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BEEN MOBILIZED AROUND A SET OF POLITICAL PRODUCTS.
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| 00:59:51 |
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THIS GOES WITHOUT SAYING, I GUESS THE PREMISE OF ALL THIS, IT'S THE POLITICAL PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PERVASIVE OVER THE LAST 150 YEARS WHICH FIND...
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| 01:01:28 |
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BEEN SAID. MOST OF IT PROBABLY BOILS DOWN TO A SORT OF CODE FOR RACISM, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. ON THE OTHER HAND, WE GOT SOME LITERARY FOLKS UP HERE...
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| 01:02:31 |
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TO THIS. WE DON'T JUST READ ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO READ ABOUT SPECIFIC PEOPLE. WE DON'T WANT TO READ ABOUT HOW AFRICAN-AMERICANS SUFFERED POST...
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| 01:04:13 |
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START
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| 01:04:14 |
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TO
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| 01:04:15 |
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CONSIDER AFRICAN-AMERICAN SLAVES AS PROPERTY, AS YOU SO BRILLIANTLY PUT IT, WERE WORTH ALL THE PROPERTY PUT TOGETHER IN THE COUNTRY. WHEN YOU START...
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| 01:05:19 |
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WAR, IT'S NOT A MOMENT OF JUBILEE. IT'S A COUNTRY FREEING THE SLAIFZ, BUT IT'S NOT JUST A COUNTRY FREEING THE SLAIFZ. IT'S AN UGLY, TERRIBLE, ARE THESE...
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| 01:06:20 |
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ABOUT THE TRAUMA OF CIVIL WAR. THIS ROMANTIC STORY ISN'T JUST OUT THERE IN THE POPULAR VERSION. WE AS SCHOLARS HAVE OUR OWN PLACE IN THE REDEMPTIVE SERVICES...
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| 01:07:54 |
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WOULDN'T BE IN THIS. THAT IS JUST USING IT AS A METAPHOR FOR CONSERVATISM, WHAT THEY REGARD AS OPPOSITION TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND THAT'S WHY...
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| 01:08:39 |
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ANCESTRAL ATTACHMENT. >> JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES IN COMING TO TERMS WITH THE CIVIL WAR, IT
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| 01:08:47 |
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SEEMS TO
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| 01:08:50 |
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ME. PROGRESSIVE-MINDED PEOPLE, AS ONE THAT WE BELIEVE THE THE FIRST PAYER OF THE OUTCOME OF THE CIVIL WAR. IT WAS A GOOD WAR IN THAT SENSE. BUT THOSE...
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| 01:10:21 |
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ABOUT PRESERVATION OF THE UNION. THAT MEANT SOMETHING TO THEM THAT WE HAVE LOST. TO THEM IT HAD A VERY SPECIFIC MEANING. THEY SAW SLAVEHOLDERS AS...
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| 01:11:34 |
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THEN. WE CAPTURE WHO IS STILL VERY WIDELY HELD AMONG THE WHITE LOYAL CITIZENRY. SO I CAN'T EVEN GIVE CREDIT FOR GOING TO WAR, MOST OF THEM, TO LIMIT --...
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| 01:12:04 |
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THAT'S THREATENING THE UNION IS THE EXTENSION OF
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| 01:12:07 |
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SLAVERY, YOU MAY BE FOR UNION BUT THE THING THAT'S ACTUALLY FIGHTING AND IS EXCUSE. ZPZ I HAVE DECIDED. THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, WITH YOU YOU...
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| 01:14:42 |
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ARMING. NOT ONLY DID THESE HUNDRED, A MATCH. STOOD ON THE STAGE AND KEPT DOING AN ABOUT FACE FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF ALTHOUGH EFLS ON THE MONUMENT....
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| 01:16:18 |
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BEEN BEFORE. PEOPLE
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| 01:16:20 |
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DISCOVERED BLACK SOLDIERS. >> I WAS IN GETTYSBURG ON NOVEMBER 19 LAST YEAR. AND REENACTORS MARCH
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| 01:16:36 |
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IN GETTYSBURG, LOTS OF THEM. THEY GET REACTION FROM THE CROWD WHEN THEY WENT BY. >> THEY'VE BECOME REALLY COOL IN REENACTMENT CIRCLES. I WANTED TO TALK...
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| 01:17:05 |
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ALLOW ONE MORE QUESTION. THIS CAME UP IN MY UNDERGRADUATE SEMINAR TWO DAYS AGO AT GREAT LENGTH. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE INTERNET IS DOING, WILL CONTINUE...
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| 01:17:41 |
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ABOUT YOU BLOGGING. >> I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT. THERE
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| 01:17:48 |
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ARE TWO ASPECTS. THE
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| 01:17:54 |
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FIRST IT HAS REALLY CREATED A WIDESPREAD AUDIENCE FOR THE KIND OF LOST CAUSES WE'VE HEARD DENOUNCED UP HERE. THAT'S THE BAD THING. THERE YOU GO. IT'S...
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| 01:18:56 |
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BACK AND READ AN
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| 01:18:58 |
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AUTOBIOGRAPHY ABOUT IDA B. WELLS. I READ ANOTHER BOOK ABOUT RECONSTRUCTION. THE CIVIL WAR STARTED TO LOOM A LITTLE BIT LARGER. AT THAT POINT I WAS...
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| 01:21:08 |
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JUST TO WANT ADD THIS REALLY QUICK. ONE OF THE BIG, BIG PROBLEMS AND
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| 01:21:11 |
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ONE OF THE MY GREAT FRUSTRATIONS IS THE WALL, LIKE J STORE. I HAVE SOME ACCESS TO J STORE AND THAT REALLY, REALLY HELPS, BUT MOST PEOPLE DO NOT, AND...
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| 01:21:31 |
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GETTING IT OUT TO --
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| 01:21:34 |
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BECAUSE THAT'S THE STORY, RIGHT? THE RAP IS SO HARD TO READ, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT THAT HARD TO READ. BUT GETTING HISTORIANS TO THE PUBLIC, THAT'S REALLY...
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| 01:22:00 |
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OF A VERY, VERY PREDICTABLE WHINING,
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| 01:22:03 |
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BUT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT YOUR
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| 01:22:05 |
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PERSPECTIVE ON THIS AND THOSE OF YOU WHO SPENT MORE TIME BLOGGING AND THINGS. WHEN YOU DO A PIECE FOR LIKE THE "NEW YORK TIMES" WEBSITE. I DID ONE...
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| 01:24:05 |
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GERIATRIC PROFESSOR, WHICH I TAKE ISSUE WITH. >> THE PROBLEM IS -- AND THIS IS NOT YOU GUYS' FAULT. THE PROBLEM IS WE'VE TAKEN THE NOTION OF DEMOCRACY...
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| 01:24:17 |
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NOT GOTTEN INTO PEOPLE'S HEADS ON THE INTERNET YET THAT YOU REALLY SHOULD CURATE YOUR COMMENTS. IT'S NOT JUST AN OPEN SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO SPOUT OFF....
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| 01:24:35 |
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WOULD ASK YOU TO LEAVE. THAT'S WHAT WOULD
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| 01:24:37 |
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HAPPEN IN MY SPACE. IF YOU WANT THE SPACE TO BE ELEVATED, YOU HAVE TO TREAT IT THAT WAY. THAT'S OUR FAULT. WE HAVEN'T QUITE GOTTEN IT THROUGH OUR...
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| 01:25:00 |
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YOU CAN STAND AT THE MIKE OR TOM OR MELISSA WILL -- >>RIGHT INTO THE MIKE, SIR, IF YOU WOULD. TOM, TURN IT ON, IF YOU WOULD. >> I REALLY WONDER
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| 01:25:19 |
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AND I DO FEEL WITH THE DIMINUTION OF INTEREST IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN PARTICULAR
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| 01:25:27 |
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DOWNGRADING HISTORY. HISTORY IS NOT TAUGHT EXCEPT FOR 45 MINUTES ONE DAY IN A MONTH AFTER LUNCH OR SOMETHING. I HAVE 12 GRANDCHILDREN. THEY DON'T KNOW...
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| 01:26:12 |
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| 01:26:13 |
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MONTH, THAT DOESN'T TIE TO THE CIVIL WAR BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO UPSET THE LITTLE DARLINGS. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING COMING OUT IN HIGHER...
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| 01:26:47 |
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HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY ON THE
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| 01:26:49 |
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PANEL TODAY ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS THEY'VE WRITTEN AND HOW MANY
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| 01:26:52 |
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THINGS THEY'VE WRITTEN -- >> I SAID HOW MANY BOOKS I'VE
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| 01:26:55 |
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WRITTEN. IT'S ALL MY FAULT. >> I'M SORRY IF I DISRUPTED YOU. >> NO, THIS IS A GOOD NEWS/BAD NEWS
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| 01:27:01 |
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STORY. THE GOOD NEWS IS ANDY, GARY, STEPH,
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| 01:27:05 |
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WE ALL -- EVERY SUMMER
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| 01:27:07 |
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WE TEACH TEACHER INSTITUTES ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY, HUNDREDS OF THEM. WE REACH THOUSANDS OF TEACHERS. THIS NEVER HAPPENED UNTIL ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO....
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| 01:27:37 |
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UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THE GENTLEMAN IS MORE THAN RIGHT, AND I WOULD ADD TO THAT THAT THE PERCENTAGE OF STUDENTS MAJORING -- STATISTICS CAN BE A LITTLE...
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| 01:28:09 |
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SECOND GRADE SCHOOLS AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS TOGETHER WAS THE GRANT PROGRAM, WHICH WAS DEFUNDED. >> IT'S ABOUT TO DIE. >> IT'S ABOUT TO DIE. IT WAS NOT VERY...
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| 01:28:23 |
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| 01:28:51 |
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THAT HAPPENED, THERE WAS FIGHTING, AND THERE WERE SLAVES AND THEY WERE FREED. AND THAT'S THE NARRATIVE. AND IT'S A VERY -- MY FIRST QUESTION IS SORT...
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| 01:29:30 |
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OFF. HOW DOES ONE TRY TO INVEST?
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| 01:29:35 |
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WHAT IS THE EXPERIENCE YOU'VE HAD WHEN YOU HAD TO INVEST SOMEONE SORT OF CARING ABOUT THE EVENT ITSELF? AND THE SECOND THING IS, YOU KNOW, THE LOST...
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| 01:29:59 |
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CHARGE, A SOUTHERN BOY. IT'S RATHER
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| 01:30:04 |
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PERVASIVE BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS SAID I WAS A 13-YEAR-OLD, YOU KNOW, HISPANIC MALE WHO VERY STRONGLY IDENTIFIED WITH THE LOST CAUSE. >> YOU DO. >> IN SOUTH...
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| 01:30:20 |
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OF THIS WHOLE THING. >>
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| 01:30:22 |
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WHY IS THAT BIZARRE? THAT'S WHERE YOU GREW UP AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE TAUGHT? >> RIGHT, AND 96% OF THE
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| 01:30:30 |
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ENVIRONMENT, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THE CIVIL WAR AT ALL. THAT'S THE BIZARRE PART. I'M TALKING ABOUT
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| 01:30:36 |
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THE PERVASIVENESS OF THE WHOLE LOST CAUSE PHILOSOPHY. >> GOOD LUCK. WHERE ARE YOU TEACHING IN TEXAS? >> IN HOUSTON. >> HOUSTON. GOOD
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| 01:30:48 |
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LUCK, MAN. WHO HAS THE NEXT QUESTION ON THIS SIDE OF THE
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| 01:30:53 |
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ROOM? YES, MA'AM. >> I'M
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| 01:30:54 |
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A REALLY BIG FAN OF YOUR BLOG. I CONSIDER MYSELF A MEMBER OF THE BOARD. ONE OF MY
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| 01:31:02 |
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FAVORITE PIECES OF YOURS IS A PIECE THAT YOU WROTE ABOUT RON PAUL AND LOUIS FAIRKYM? I KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WROTE, BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T...
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| 01:31:51 |
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2004 LAMBASTING LINCOLN WITH A CONFEDERATE FLAG RIGHT BEHIND HIM. RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I COULDN'T EVEN -- MY EYES WENT LIKE THIS....
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| 01:32:46 |
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YOU GO. HIS APPEAL IS CERTAINLY MUCH BROADER THAN THAT. IT REALLY, REALLY
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| 01:32:50 |
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IS. I WOULD SAY IF GEORGE ALLEN WINS THE SENATE RACE, GEORGE ALLEN IS ANOTHER PERSON WHO IS VERY MUCH IDENTIFIED -- >> THAT'S IN VIRGINIA. >> -- IN...
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| 01:33:06 |
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GREW UP SOMEWHERE.
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I THINK HE GREW UP IN CALIFORNIA OR SOMEWHERE. >> HIS DAD WAS A FOOTBALL COACH MOVING AROUND. >> RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. YES, IT'S STILL -- BUT I THINK...
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THAT AGAIN, IF THEY LITERALLY STAND UP IN FRONT OF A
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CONFEDERATE FLAG. IT WAS NOT THE ISSUE IT HAD BEEN IN A REPUBLICAN PRIMER, WHICH WAS INTERESTING. >> I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION REFERRING TO WHAT...
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A LITTLE LOUDER. >> I HAVE A QUESTION OF WHAT PROFESSOR McCURRY MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT AGO HOW AMERICA IS LIMITED IN
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ITS CIVIL
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| 01:33:55 |
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WAR. I WAS WONDERING, AS A HISTORIAN, DID YOU EVER GET THE IMPRESSION THAT AT LEAST IN RECENT YEARS INTEREST IN THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR HAS SORT OF BEEN...
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| 01:34:52 |
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ACTUALLY AN ISRAELI WHO WAS TRAINED BY McPHERSON AT PRINCETON WHO CAME TO THE UNITED STATES WITH HER FATHER ON A FELLOWSHIP AS A LITTLE KID. HE WAS...
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HISTORY WITH THIS DILEMMA. THAT'S WHAT'S ALWAYS FASCINATED THE REST OF THE WORLD ABOUT US. I TAUGHT -- 20 YEARS AGO I TAUGHT FOR A YEAR IN GERMANY....
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| 01:37:18 |
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FEDERALISM, RIGHT? SCOTLAND WANTS OUT OF THE UNITED KINGDOM, BELGIUM IS GOING TO SPLIT UP ANY DAY, PROBABLY NOT ABOUT BLOODSHED, BUT IT RAISES ...
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IN LONDON. >> THERE ARE REENACT TOREORS. >> THERE ARE REENACTORS. THEY
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ARE VERY PROMINENT, INCLUDING WINSTON CHURCHILL. THERE ARE A LOT OF SERIOUS INTERESTS IN SORT OF CLASSIC
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TEXTS COMING FROM BRITISH AUTHORS, 19th CENTURY DOWN TO THE MID 20th. >> THERE IS ONE PLACE WHERE I THINK THERE IS A BOOM OF INTEREST ABROAD IN THE CIVIL...
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| 01:39:06 |
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AND THE HUMANITARIAN LAW NGOs, WE NOW LIVE IN A WORLD WHICH FOR INTERNATIONAL LAW PURPOSES, OUR CONFLICTS ARE NON-ARMED CONFLICTS. AND FOR THAT POPULATION,...
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| 01:39:58 |
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INTEREST IS CESSATION. CESSATION IS HANDLED SO DIFFERENTLY NOW, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PROTOCOLS. IT'S REALLY STRIKING TO TEACH THE SESSION NOW AND...
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CONDITIONS, SO POLITICAL SCIENTISTS,
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INTERNATIONAL LAW PEOPLE ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS, AND OF COURSE THE LOOMING CASE IS THE U.S. >> AND RECONSTRUCTION -- WE NEED TO END HERE SOON --...
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TO RECONSTRUCT AFTER WAR? THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE COMPARATIVE CONFERENCES ABOUT RECONSTRUCTION, ABOUT OCCUPATION. I WAS ONCE INVITED TO ONE IN GERMANY,...
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