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RAID. HE TALKS ABOUT THE RAID'S IMPACT ON THE ABOLITIONISTS MOVEMENT AND THE CIVIL WAR. THIS IS ABOUT 50 MINUTES. >> BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I WANT...
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
WHITE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T MET. FOR MOST OF US, IT'S A WONDERFUL WELCOMING TO OUR HOME HERE IN WATERFORD. TO CELEBRATE BOTH THE JOURNEY THROUGH...
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YOU, HE IS SELLING HIS
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
HOUSE. >> YOU CAN TOUR IT AFTERWARDS. >> WE'RE HERE TODAY AS PART OF THE JOURNEY THROUGH HALLOWED GROUND NATIONAL HERITAGE AREAS
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
INSTITUTE. CONVERSATIONS, ENGAGING BOTH OUR PARTNERS AS WELL AS OUR AUTHORS IN BRINGING TO THE FORE THE HISTORY IN THE SWATH THE LAND FROM GETTYSBURG...
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ABOUT JOHN BROWN AND THE EVENTS
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
THAT CHANGED THE COURSE OF AMERICAN HISTORY FOREVER. TONY IS ALSO A PULITZER PRIZEWINNING JOURNALIST. HE WORKED FOR THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" AND "THE...
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
ARE AT LEAST FIVE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO I DON'T KNOW. SO THERE YOU GO. IT'S THE OLD MOM. SO GOOD TO BE BACK. >> THANK YOU. HERE IN WATERFORD, WE'RE...
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
VERY CURIOUS TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS HISTORICAL LANDSCAPE HAS INFLUENCED SO MUCH OF YOUR WRITING, WHETHER IT'S BEEN CONFEDERATES IN THE ATTIC, OR MANY...
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
AS THE CROW FLIES, ARE WE 15 MILES FROM HARPER'S FERRY? >> AT MOST. >> I HAD TO MOVE TO MASSACHUSETTS BEFORE I THOUGHT GREAT
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BOOK IN MY BACKYARD, IN MY FORMER
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
BACKYARD. YEAH, I MEAN, WELL SPEAKING TO THIS SUBJECT AT LEAST, FIRST OF ALL, I WROTE, "CONFEDERATES IN THE ATTIC," BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED 15 YARDS...
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
COMPARTMENTALIZED. THAT THIS ENTIRE SWATH OF LAND HAS BEEN FORMED BY EVERY GENERATION THAT HAS LIVED WITH IT. AS THIS IS PRESIDENTS' WEEKEND, I'M MINDFUL...
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
AND SAY MORALLY HOW COULD THEY HAVE EVER? IN FACT, THEY COULD HAVE NEVER CREATED A COUNTRY UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES HAD THEY TRIED TO ADDRESS ALL THE PROBLEMS...
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
JOHN BROWN IS BORN IN 1800. BOTH HIS GRANDFATHERS FIGHT IN THE REVOLUTION. HIS GREAT-GREAT-GREAT WHATEVER PURITANS ARE IN NEW ENGLAND. THIS IS STILL...
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
ACTUALLY TRAVELING IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS AND SEEING IT. I MEAN, FOR JAMES COOK YOU LITERALLY SAILED ON A SHIP LIKE HIS, LIKE CAPTAIN HOOK'S ALL THE WAY...
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
FOOTSTEPS IN KANSAS AND HARPER'S FERRY AND OTHER PLACES, BUT WE ALSO HAVE HIS LETTERS AND WE HAVE HIS WRITING AND THE LETTERS OF ALL OF HIS FAMILY....
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
AN ARMORY, WHICH WASHINGTON HIMSELF SAID, IN THEN VIRGINIA, THAT IT WAS NOT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND HIS ULTIMATE GOAL WAS TO BE A MARTYR. WHAT...
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
INTENDED? BECAUSE HE CHANGES HIS STORY. YOU KNOW, KIND OF A SPOILER ALERT HERE. YOU KNOW? JOHN BROWN ATTACKS HARPER'S FERRY, HOPING TO SEIZE THE 100,000...
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
THE REST OF AMERICAN HISTORY? >> ALL RIGHT. IT'S ONE OF THOSE GREAT WHAT IF'S. ONE OF THOSE GREAT WHAT IF'S. I'VE TOYED WITH
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
IT. AGAIN, WE CAN'T KNOW. OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN'T HAVE LOTS OF FUN WITH THIS. YOU CAN'T BE WRONG. IN MY OWN VIEW, ABRAHAM LINCOLN WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN...
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
AND SUDDENLY YOU DON'T HAVE AN EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION. YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW -- EXACTLY. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS SO FASCINATING. >> YOU...
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GROUNDS. >> OR DIFFERENT. WE'D BE IN A DIFFERENT
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
COUNTRY. WE WOULD BE IN A LITERALLY
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
DIFFERENT COUNTRY. SO IN THAT VEIN, AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE ACTUALLY SLEPT IN -- >> THAT SOUNDS KINKIER THAN IT IS. >> ANTIETAM IS ONE OF THE MANY
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
DEVASTATING TWO REAL BATTLEFIELD
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
SIGHTS. BUT IT WAS BECAUSE OF ANTIETAM THAT LINCOLN WAS THEN, IF YOU WILL, FREE TO RELEASE THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION. TALK TO US ABOUT THE FACT...
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
AT THE KENNEDY FARM INVADING HARPER'S FERRY IN 1859. HARPER'S FERRY IS A FLASH POINT AND THE CIVIL WAR CHANGES HANDS A DOZEN TIMES. STONEWALL JACKSON,...
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT YOU DO SO
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REMARKABLY WELL, AND THAT IS
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
THESE NAMES, THEY'RE NAMES ON HISTORY BOOK PAGES FOR MOST PEOPLE. BUT YOU ACTUALLY OPEN UP THEIR HEARTS, THEIR LIVES, THEIR THOUGHTS AND FEARS TO US....
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
FREEDOM. THE MASTER RENEGED. HE WAS FED UP. HE WAS CONTINUING TO DO THAT. AND HE HAD -- AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO WITH OUR SUMMER CAMP STUDENTS...
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
ABOUT BROWN AND HIS BAND. THIS WAS A BIRACIAL GUERRILLA BAND. AND IN THIS TINY MOUNTAIN HIDEOUT -- YOU SHOULD GO TO THE KENNEDY FARM. IT'S A LITTLE...
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND VERY INFLUENTIAL WHITE NORTHERN AMERICANS FROM EMERSON AND THOREAU. BUT THE SOCIETY -- THE SECRET SIX, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?...
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
POSSIBLY INSANE FIGURE WHO THIS ACT WAS SORT OF PART OF ONE MAN'S DISTURBED IMAGINATION. WELL, IN FACT, THIS WAS A FULL-BLOWN CONSPIRACY. AND JUST MAYBE...
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
CONVERSATION. SO ALLOW US TO TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR. >> FARE. >> FIRE AWAY. >> MY NAME IS PETER. I'M THE ARCHITECT AT HARPER'S FERRY NATIONAL...
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THANK YOU FOR RETURNING
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TO HALLOWED
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GROUND FOR HOSTING THIS EVENT. I WAS WITH YOU IN SEPTEMBER OF 2009 FOR THE 150th, THE TREK FROM THE KENNEDY
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FARM. >> RIGHT. OCTOBER. >>
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OCTOBER. IT IS SUCH A WONDERFUL EVENT. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. WHEN CAN WE DO THAT AGAIN? WHEN
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CAN THE JOURNEY THROUGH HALLOWED GROUND ENCOURAGE THE PARKS SERVICE AND OTHER
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PARTNERS TO DO THAT ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS OR SO? ANOTHER QUESTION IS, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO PUT YOUR BOOK INTO A MOVIE? >> ALLOW US A SEGUE. >> I THINK...
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IT WHICH WAS APPROPRIATE BECAUSE ON THE NIGHT
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
THAT BROWN DID IT IN 1859 WITH HIS MEN, IT WAS WET AND COLD. SO IT DIDN'T MAKE FOR THE MOST PLEASANT OF HIKES. BUT, YOU KNOW, I FOUND IT VERY POWERFUL....
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SURE THERE'S OTHER WRITERS IN
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
THE ROOM, THEY PUT YOU IN THE RIGHT FRAME OF MIND. ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS ABOUT WRITING HISTORY IS YOU'RE CAPTURING THE STRANGENESS OF THE PAST BUT...
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BATTLES OF THE CIVIL WAR WHICH TOOK PLACE IN KANSAS? >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. IN TELLING THIS STORY, I SPENT QUITE A BIT A TIME IN KANSAS BECAUSE...
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A LOW GRADE CONFLICT, MAYBE MORE LIKE IN IRAQ THAN A CIVIL WAR. IT REALLY IS TO ME A FASCINATING AND NOT FORGOTTEN, BUT NOT RECOGNIZED NEARLY AS MUCH...
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TO END
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SLAVERY? >> TO
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END SLAVERY. FOR THOSE WHO MAY -- >> YOU CAN COUNT ON NEIL TO GET RIGHT TO THE CORE. WAS JOHN BROWN RIGHT AND WAS BLOODSHED NECESSARY? AGAIN, THIS IS...
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
TO DODGE THAT QUESTION, BUT I
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
THINK THIS, TO ME, AGAIN, WAS ONE OF THE REASONS I WANTED TO WRITE ABOUT THIS. BECAUSE JOHN BROWN REALLY KIND OF DRIVES PEOPLE CRACKERS, EVEN LEADING...
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TO ABOLITIONIST. YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL THINGS THAT THE
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NORTHERN ABOLITIONISTS WHO WERE AVERTING SLAVERY FROM THE DEVELOPING NATION. BUT ALSO THE MISPERCEPTION OF SOUTHERNERS AS THE GREAT PROTAGANISTS. THAT...
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
RAN THE UNIVERSITY AND MOST OF THE NORTH THROUGH THE SLAVE TRADE. AND
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THE DOCUMENTARY IS AVAILABLE ON YOUTUBE. IT IS A PHENOMENAL STORY. I WOULD LIKE TO ENFOLD OR HAVE YOUR OPINION WITH REGARD TO THE GREATEST SIN OF...
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
OF THE SLAVE TRADE? >> OH,
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GOSH. I GUESS WHAT I MAYBE JUST TO RESTATE. I WAS WATCHING THE LEHER HOUR
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
THE OTHER NIGHT. THERE WAS A YOUNG AFRICAN-AMERICAN WITH A PLACARD SAYING "END BLACK HISTORY MONTH." HIS POINT IS WE SHOULDN'T SET THIS APART. BLACK...
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THOSE PLACES PLACES? PLACES LIKE THE TRAIN STATION OR HARRIET TUBMAN'S HOME? >> YOU ARE SPEAKING TO THE ROOM. IT EMBRACES THIS. IT IS HARD TO PEOPLE WHO...
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Horwitz, Tony - Author
THAT BECAUSE WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT BECAUSE THESE PLACES SHOULD BE SAFE. WE'RE HISTORY NERDS AND PRESERVATION PRESERVATION. I WOULD SAY WHEN I TALK...
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
HALL OWED GROUND, GIVE A TOKEN OF OUR PROTECTION. AS JEN IS GETTING THAT, WHAT TONY WAS JUST SAYING IS WHY WE ARE A TEAM AT THE JOURNEY. I WANT THOSE...
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HAVE IT SIGNED. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. >> THANK YOU. [
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
APPLAUSE ] >>>
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Wyatt, Cathleen "Cate" Magennis - Founder and President
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