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THE SUB COMMITTEE ON THE POLICY AND ENFORCEMENT. TODAY, WE HAVE A HEARING ON REGIONAL PERSPECTIVES ON AGRICULTURE GUEST WORKER PROGRAMS. GOOD MORNING...
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| 00:04:47 |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU ARE RIGHT. THIS IS THE THIRD HEARING BEFORE THE SUB COMMITTEE. SPECIFICALLY ON OUR AGRICULTURE WORK FORCE. WE HAVE BEEN...
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| 00:10:41 |
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LADY. THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE THE HEARING THIS MORNING. THE BAD NEWS IS THE BELL JUST WENT OFF AND WE HAVE VOTES. WE'LL GET BACK AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE....
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| 00:12:31 |
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WILL RECOGNIZE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE FULL COMMITTEE. THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS. >> THANK
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| 00:12:38 |
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YOU. THE AGRICULTURE INDUSTRY NEEDS TO HIRE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF SEASONAL WORKERS EACH YEAR TO PUT FOOD ON AMERICANS TABLES. MANY WORKERS CHOOSE...
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| 00:16:30 |
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HIS STATEMENT. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN AN OVERRIDE BUTTON. I NEVER KNEW THAT WAS HERE. >> BEFORE YOU DO
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| 00:16:41 |
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THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, COULD I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO PUT HIS STATEMENT IN THE RECORD? >>
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| 00:16:47 |
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YES. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE STATEMENT OF TORY FARMS OF NEW YORK AND THE STATEMENT OF DALE FORMAN, CHAIRMAN OF THE APPLE ASSOCIATION BE INCLUDED...
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| 00:20:25 |
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CHAIRMAN AND RANKING MEMBERS AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COMMITTEE AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IN ATTENDANCE OF THIS IMPORTANT HEARING TODAY. I'M...
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| 00:25:30 |
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BLACK. MR. WENGER. >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN
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| 00:25:33 |
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SMITH AND RANKING MEMBERS AND DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE FARMERS AND RANCHERS ARE IN CRITICAL NEED OF A LEGAL...
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| 00:28:28 |
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WITHOUT OBJECTION, THAT REPORT WILL BE ENTERED. >> THANK
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| 00:28:31 |
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YOU. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM TO SCALE UP QUICKLY FROM ADMITTING 50,000 WORKERS TO ADMITTING THE LARGER NUMBERS AGRICULTURE WILL NEED. ...
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| 00:31:12 |
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YOU VERY MUCH, MR. WENGER. MR. WICKER. >>
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| 00:31:15 |
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THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. I'M LEE WICKER. DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE GROWERS ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THE HEARING. THIS IS THE LARGEST STATE'S...
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| 00:36:55 |
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YOU. MR. GOLDSTEIN. >> MR. CHAIRMAN
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| 00:36:57 |
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AND MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY ABOUT AGRICULTURE GUEST WORKER PROGRAMS. OUR AGRICULTURE LABOR SYSTEM IS UNSUSTAINABLE AND UNFAIR...
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| 00:38:24 |
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OBJECTION. >> MANY EMPLOYERS PREFER
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| 00:38:26 |
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GUEST WORKERS BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE VULNERABLE THAN IMMIGRANTS. WORKERS MAY WORK FOR THE EMPLOYER THAT OBTAIN THEIR VISA, MUST LEAVE THE COUNTRY...
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| 00:42:23 |
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YOU, MR. GOLDSTEIN. I THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. WE WILL MOVE INTO QUESTIONS BY THE PANEL. SINCE THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF US HERE, WE WILL PROBABLY...
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| 00:43:32 |
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PROGRAMS, WHAT HAPPENS IS THE PROGRAM TENDS TO HAPPEN IN THE H2-A PROGRAM. THE WORKER ARE A NON IMMIGRANT STATUS. THEY DON'T HAVE. BARGAINING POWER....
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| 00:43:45 |
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REFER TO THE QUESTION I HAVE? I SPECIFICALLY SAID IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN THE PROGRAM. IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN THE H 2-A PROGRAM IN THEY HAVE...
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| 00:44:17 |
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THE MOBILITY WOULD BE BETWEEN EMPLOYERS THAT ENROLL IN THE GUEST WORKER PROGRAM. GROWERS THAT ENROLL SET UP RECRUITMENT SYSTEMS TO BRING IN WORKERS....
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| 00:44:46 |
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I APPRECIATE IT. I WISH YOU WOULD CONCEDE WHAT WE HAVE IN THE BILL TO TALK ABOUT THAT. I THINK IT IS ILLOGICAL TO SUGGEST THAT GIVING THEM INCREASED...
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| 00:45:20 |
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YES. >> AND HOW MANY OF THOSE
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| 00:45:23 |
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WERE CERTIFIED FOR H 2-A IN RECENT YEAR? >> I DON'T HAVE THE
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| 00:45:31 |
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EXACT NUMBER. IT IS LESS THAN 2%. IT IS INSIGNIFICANT IN THE FACT OF THE OVERALL DEMAND. A LOT OF THE GROWERS ARE IN THE STRAWBERRY PLANT BUSINESS....
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| 00:46:50 |
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MAUREEN TORY OF NEW YORK SUBMITTED TO US. SHE IS THE OWNER OF TORY FARMS. TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, THEY TOOK 1,000 ACRES OUT OF PRODUCTION AND INSTEAD...
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| 00:47:31 |
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LAST YEAR, 400,000 HIRED WORKERS. ONLY 3,000 FARM JOBS WERE CERTIFIED. >> I DON'T WANT YOU
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| 00:47:40 |
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TO STATE UNDER OATH EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. WOULD YOU SAY IT IS FAIR TO SUGGEST THAT OVER HALF OF THE WORK FORCE IN THE AGRICULTURE FIELDS IN CALIFORNIA...
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| 00:47:56 |
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LEAST 50%. >> WOULD
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| 00:47:57 |
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YOU BELIEVE THAT IS TRUE NATIONWIDE? >>
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| 00:47:59 |
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YES. >> MY TIME IS
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| 00:48:02 |
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UP. COLLEAGUE FROM CALIFORNIA. >>
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| 00:48:06 |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS TO ALL OF THE WITNESSES OF THE TESTIMONY. MR. WANGENGER, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF CALIFORNIA, YOU HAVE GIVEN YOUR TESTIMONY...
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| 00:49:11 |
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WORKERS? >> THEY JUST AREN'T THERE. IF YOU TAKE THEM, YOU FIND OUT WHO THEY ARE THROUGH THE E-VERIFY PROGRAM AND IF YOU'RE TO REMOVE THEM TO THE DESERT...
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| 00:49:53 |
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ABOUT THE SKILL SET, MY DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT IN CALIFORNIA IS PRETTY URBAN, BUT WE HAVE SOME AGRICULTURAL ACTIVITY AS WELL. ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTH...
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| 00:50:58 |
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CERTAINLY. FOR COMMODITIES IN CALIFORNIA AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, MUCH MORE MECHANIZED AND SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SKILL SET THAT TAKES YEARS AND...
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| 00:52:39 |
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RUNNING OUT, BUT AS MR. BLACK POINTED OUT THAT WE HAVE HAD THESE HEARINGS AND WE'VE WRUNG OUR HANDS REPEATEDLY, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ANY PLAN...
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| 00:53:03 |
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IN THIS COUNTRY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WAY TO GIVE THEM SOME KIND OF AN ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS TO ALLOW THEM TO BE IN THE COUNTRY TO WORK, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY...
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| 00:53:12 |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MY TIME HAS EXPIRED. >> MR.
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| 00:53:15 |
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ROSS? >>
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| 00:53:17 |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. LET MELEE LAY THE PREDICATE FOR MY QUESTIONING, SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I COME FROM. I'M FROM A PREDOMINANTLY RURAL PLACE,...
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| 00:54:38 |
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SAY PORTABILITY? >>
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| 00:54:43 |
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PORTABILITY, YES. TO GO FROM EMPLOYER TO EMPLOYER. >>
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| 00:54:45 |
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ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. >> MR.
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| 00:54:51 |
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WENGER? >>
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| 00:54:52 |
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ABSOLUTELY. YOU HAVE TO HAVE PORTABILITY OR IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. >> WORKERS CAN MOVE FROM
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| 00:54:59 |
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ONE CERTIFIED FARMER TO ANOTHER. >> I
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| 00:55:01 |
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DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT WITH REGARD -- >> PORTABILITY
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| 00:55:05 |
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PLUS. >> LET ME
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| 00:55:08 |
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ASK YOU THEN SOMETHING ELSE. YOU TALK ABOUT TAXING HERE. AND WE CAN'T GET FROM THE LABOR DEPARTMENT WHAT THE ADEQUATE NUMBER OF THE FARM WORKERS WE...
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| 00:55:42 |
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CONGRESSMAN, I BELIEVE THAT'S IN THE FIELD OF PLAY FOR SURE. WE HAVE TO HAVE BETTER DATA IN GEORGIA. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE THINGS WE HAVE DISCOVERED...
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| 00:56:02 |
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THE THIRD RAIL OF IMMIGRATION AND TAKE THIS AWAY FROM IMMIGRATION AND CALL IT WHAT IT IS. IT IS AN ECONOMIC TOOL NECESSARY TO KEEP OUR ECONOMY, LOCAL...
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| 00:56:26 |
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FEEL CAPS ARE DANGEROUS BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD FROM THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE AN H-2A AND IF WE FIX H-2A THEY CAN BRING THEIR WORKERS IN. AS WE LOOK AT SEASONS...
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| 00:57:38 |
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TIME FOR ONE MORE QUESTION. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT CAPS? >> WE HAVE A DE FACTO CAP
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| 00:57:43 |
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NOW.
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| 00:57:44 |
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WITH THE BUREAUCRACY. >> YEAH.
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| 00:57:48 |
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YEAH. >> SO, YOU KNOW -- >>
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| 00:57:49 |
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IT'S INEFFECTIVE. YEAH. >> SO, YOU KNOW, THE CAP AND
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| 00:57:56 |
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THE AMERICAN SPECIALTY AGRICULTURAL ACT IS 500,000. SHOULD IT BE HIGHER? MAYBE. LET'S PASS THAT AND GET STARTED. I KNOW THAT IF OUR COUNTRY MAKES A...
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| 00:58:27 |
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YOU. I SEE MY TIME IS UP. >> YES, YOU'LL
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| 00:58:31 |
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HAVE A CHANCE FOR A SECOND GO ROUND. THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED. >> I THANK THE CHAIRMAN AND
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| 00:58:36 |
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THE RANKING MEMBER FOR COURTESIES EXTENDED. JUST HAVE COMMENTS AND A QUICK QUESTION AND THEN A POINTED QUESTION TO MR. GOLDSTEIN IF I COULD. I HAVE...
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| 01:00:20 |
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MA'AM. WE ABIDE BY THE H-2A. THE UP WITH THAT'S THE FOCUS -- THE ONE THAT'S THE FOCUS OF THE 33 PRODUCERS, THEY ABIDE BY THE REQUIREMENTS. >>
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| 01:00:31 |
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YOU SAY YOU DON'T PROVIDE HOUSING? I SAID HOUSING AND SCHOOLING FOR THE CHILDREN OF MIGRANT WORKERS. HOUSING FOR THE PARENTS -- >> THOSE ARE
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| 01:00:42 |
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THE INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY OF THOSE CREWS THAT COME TO WORK WITH THE FARMERS IN THE COMMUNITY. >> SO IT'S
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| 01:00:48 |
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THE BURDEN OF THE MIGRANT WORKER, THEY PROVIDE THEIR OWN HOUSING? ARE THE CHILDREN ALLOWED TO GO TO SCHOOL IN GEORGIA? >> YES,
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| 01:00:57 |
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MA'AM. BUT WHAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO KNOW THERE IS WHETHER OR NOT THE FAMILY'S ACTUALLY
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| 01:01:01 |
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WITH THEM OR NOT. >> OKAY. I HAVE TO MOVE QUICKLY. ALL RIGHT. I THANK YOU. I HAVE TO MOVE RATHER QUICKLY. DO YOU HAVE ANY AMERICAN WORKERS IN YOUR FIELDS?...
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| 01:01:14 |
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VERY LIMITED NUMBERS. >>
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| 01:01:15 |
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DO THEY COME WHEN YOU CALL THEM? >>
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| 01:01:17 |
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I'M SORRY? >> DO THEY COME WHEN YOU
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| 01:01:21 |
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CALL THEM? >> I'D
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| 01:01:22 |
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SAY THE BEST EXAMPLE I HAVE OF THAT IS ONE OF MY GROWERS IN TIPTON, GEORGIA, THIS PAST YEAR, UNDER HIS REQUIREMENTS OF H-2A AND HIRING PEOPLE PROCESSED...
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| 01:01:37 |
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TO STAY. >> OKAY. MR. WENGER, HOUSING, SCHOOLING? >> CURRENTLY, A LOT OF GROWERS WILL PROVIDE HOUSING, THEY SEE THAT AS AN ATTRACTANT TO GET WORKERS....
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| 01:01:42 |
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| 01:02:18 |
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| 01:02:23 |
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PRODUCT? >> WE HAVE SOME
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| 01:02:33 |
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THAT WENT THROUGH THE LEGALIZATION PROCESS IN '86. >> YES, MA'AM, WE HAVE
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| 01:02:37 |
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U.S. WORKERS WORKING ON THE FARM. SUPERVISORS -- >>
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| 01:02:39 |
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NATIVE U.S. -- >> YES. YES. LOCAL WORKERS. ABSOLUTELY. >> ALL RIGHT. MR. GOLDSTEIN, WHAT ARE THE PROBLEMS WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IN THE VISA PROGRAM?...
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| 01:02:41 |
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| 01:02:55 |
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| 01:02:56 |
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VISAS. WE NEED TO END THE DISCRIMINATION AGAINST FARM WORKERS. THEY DON'T GET OVERTIME PAY. WE NEED TO DO TO THINGS TO STABILIZE THE WORK FORCE AND TREAT...
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| 01:04:09 |
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YOU, GENTLEMEN. CHAIRMAN? >> COULD I MAKE A
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| 01:04:18 |
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CORRECTION, SO I WON'T OFFEND ANYBODY. THE DEFINITION OF NATIVE AMERICANS ARE THOSE WHO ARE DEFINED TO HAVE BEEN THERE FOR WHEN WE ALL CAME. SO I WANTED...
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| 01:04:38 |
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WE'LL GO FOR A SECOND ROUND NOW. START OFF WITH FIVE MINUTES. MR. BLACK, MR. WENGER, MR. WICKER, DO YOU SUPPORT PROGRAMS SO YOU CAN EXPLOIT VULNERABLE...
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| 01:05:01 |
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| 01:05:32 |
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DISCUSSING EARLIER, BEING ABLE TO COMPETE IS AN EXCELLENT STEP FOR US TO TAKE. >>
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| 01:05:47 |
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MR. WENGER? >>
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| 01:05:48 |
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THE INTERESTING THING IS IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT WORKERS BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, GIVE THEM A DOCUMENT SO THEY CAN TRAVEL AND VOTE WHERE THEIR LEGS IF...
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| 01:06:43 |
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MR. WICKER? >>
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| 01:06:44 |
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NO, WE DO NOT SUPPORT A PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS EXPLOITATION. >> HOW ARE THEY
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| 01:06:52 |
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EMPOWERED? >> THANK YOU COME
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| 01:06:54 |
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THROUGH ORIENTATION AND THEY MAKE MANY, MANY WORKER RIGHTS GROUPS. WE HAVE A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT AND THEY KNOW ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE,...
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| 01:07:28 |
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I'M FRUSTRATED BY THIS WHOLE THING. I WAS HERE IN THE '80s. I WAS THE REPUBLICAN FLOOR MANAGER, I WROTE A LOT OF WHAT IS NOW THE H-2A PROGRAM FROM THE...
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| 01:10:02 |
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A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I WASN'T HERE IN THE CONGRESS DURING THE REAGAN YEARS. BUT I THINK THE PROBLEM WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WASN'T IN FORCE. THE REAL...
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| 01:14:50 |
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MA'AM. IF I MAY EXPLAIN THE RATIONALE, THE METHODOLOGY ON THE SURVEY, RATHER THAN DOING ECONOMIC MODELS AND EXTRAPOLATING, WE WANTED TO ASK DIRECT...
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| 01:15:23 |
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I SEE. >> SO THAT'S ROUGHLY 125,
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| 01:15:27 |
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130 FARMERS. THEN ONE CAN EXTRAPOLATE THAT HOWEVER YOU MIGHT CARE, BUT WE KNOW THAT WAS THE DIRECT IMPACT TO THOSE PRODUCERS AND THEIR RESPONSE. >>
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| 01:15:40 |
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I'LL JUST NOTE THAT THE UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA HAS DONE THAT ANALYSIS AND WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS THAT THE DIRECT LOSSES WOULD BE $140 MILLION IN THE...
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| 01:16:18 |
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YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THE ADVERSE RATE. I HAVE HARVESTERS WHO UTILIZE H-2A PROGRAMS PAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S THE RIGHT...
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| 01:17:08 |
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IT'S A DIFFICULT ISSUE WHEN YOU LOOK AT A PACKING SHED THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME MINIMUM WAGE JOBS LIKE SWEEPING THE FLOOR AND YET, IF YOU'RE FORCED --...
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| 01:17:46 |
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RIGHT. >> THOSE THAT
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| 01:17:47 |
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ARE DOING THE PRODUCTIVE WORK. BUT THE FACTS ARE THAT THERE ARE SOME MINIMUM WAGE JOBS STILL LEFT AND HAVING FLEXIBILITY TO TO -- >>
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| 01:17:56 |
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IT'S IMPORTANT. >> IT'S
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| 01:17:57 |
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IMPORTANT. >> MR.
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| 01:17:58 |
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WENGER? >> YEAH,
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| 01:17:59 |
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I THINK ANY TIME YOU SET WAGES AT A CERTAIN LEVEL AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE CAPS AND YOU LET PEOPLE COME IN AND MEET THAT FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEIR...
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| 01:18:36 |
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DO YOU FEEL? >> IT'S A FREE MARKET WAGE, TIED TO THE STATE MINIMUM WAGE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BASE HOURLY WAGE RATE THAT IS PREDICTABLE. I WOULD...
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| 01:18:39 |
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| 01:19:38 |
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YOU THINK THE ADVERSE EFFECTIVE WAGE RATE INVENTIZES THOSES WHO WANT TO HIRE? >> WE THINK IT'S TOO
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| 01:19:46 |
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LOW. IT IS BASED ON THE USDA SURVEY OF AGRICULTURAL EMPLOYERS WAGES. IT INCLUDES WAGE RATES PAID TO UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS AND BECAUSE UNDOCUMENTED...
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| 01:20:07 |
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HOME CAN'T COMPETE BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO MANY BEING HIRED ILLEGALLY AT LESS THAN THE EFFECTIVE WAGE RATE. >> WE LIKED
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| 01:20:16 |
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TO LEGALIZE THE UNDOCUMENTED WORK FORCE AND HAVE GREATER ENFORCEMENT OF FARM WORKERS RIGHTS. YOU KNOW, YOU JUST HEARD THE GENTLEMAN, MR. WENGER, WAS...
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| 01:20:46 |
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THE FLEXIBILITY. COMMISSIONER BLACK? >> WHEN WE TALK --
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| 01:20:49 |
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WHEN YOU SET THINGS, ONE OF OUR GROWERS THIS YEAR COMPLETED HIS WORK, COMPLETED HIS WORK, TURNED THE PAPERWORK IN AND IN THE PROCESS THEY WERE CHARGED...
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| 01:21:05 |
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BUREAUCRATIC SYSTEM HELP HIM CHANGE THAT PAPERWORK UP FRONT? ABSOLUTELY NOT. HE WENT TO THE BACK OF THE LINE AND START ALL OVER TO CHANGE ONE PENNY. AND...
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| 01:21:22 |
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THE PROGRAM. >> THANK YOU, AGAIN. MY TIME IS UP. >> THANK
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| 01:21:27 |
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YOU, GENTLEMEN. I THANK ALL OF OUR MEMBERS HERE. I'D LIKE TO THANK OUR WITNESSES FOR THEIR TESTIMONY TODAY. WITHOUT OBJECTION, ALL MEMBERS WILL HAVE...
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