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Scully, Steven - Host
PLURALISTIC SOCIETY WHICH MEANS RELIGIOUS LIBERTY IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF OUR TRADITIONS AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NO FAITH AT ALL. THAT IS CRITICAL. IF...
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A PLURALISTIC NATION WITH A SECULAR GOVERNMENT. 85% OF AMERICANS CLAIM SOME SORT OF CHRISTIAN FAITH. WE ARE A RELIGIOUS COUNTRY WITHIN A SECULAR GOVERNMENT....
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Scully, Steven - Host
CONVERSATION IS AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE AT C-SPAN.ORG. GUEST: WE ARE
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
CERTAINLY A VERY PLURALISTIC COUNTRY WITH OVER 2000 UNIDENTIFIABLE RELIGIONS IN THIS COUNTRY. WE CERTAINLY HAVE THAT LEVEL OF DIVERSITY. WHAT WE NEED...
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Scully, Steven - Host
LOOK AT OUR CONSTITUTION, WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, BUT FOR MANY, RELIGION IS ONE OF THOSE FOUNDATIONS...
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
ABOUT THAT BUT THE ONE THING THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT WEIGH IN ON HIS RELIGION. THEY CAN MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT LANGUAGES WE CAN PRINT ARE SIGNS IN,...
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Scully, Steven - Host
GOD WE TRUST" ON AMERICAN CURRENCY?
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
GUEST: PROBABLY NOT. WE MANAGED TO GET THROUGH WORLD WAR I AND II, OUT OF THE GREAT DEPRESSION, HAVING A PURELY SECULAR "PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE." WE CAN...
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Scully, Steven - Host
ARE TALKING TO BARRY LYNN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE AMERICANS UNITED FOR THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. HE GRADUATED FROM BOSTON UNIVERSITY. IS...
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
THERE IS BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE THINK THERE IS NO GOD OR MULTIPLE GODS. THIS DOES NOT BOTHER ME. IF THEY WANT TO TALK TO ME OR BE EVANGELICAL...
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Scully, Steven - Host
TALK ABOUT PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS AND TWO OF THE LEADING CONTENDERS, MITT ROMNEY AND NEWT GINGRICH. LAST FRIDAY, THE ISSUE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A MOMENT...
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SOME PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS NATION A TOTALLY SECULAR NATION. IT IS A LITTLE HARD GIVEN THE FACT THAT OUR FOUNDING DOCUMENT, THE DECLARATION...
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Scully, Steven - Host
IS DISPUTING THE PREMISE OF YOUR ORGANIZATION. GUEST: YES, HE
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
IS. UNFORTUNATELY FOR HIM, HE IS WRONG ABOUT THIS. THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE IS NOT THE FOUNDING DOCUMENT OF THE COUNTRY. THE FOUNDING DOCUMENT...
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Scully, Steven - Host
ABOUT THE FAITH-BASED INITIATIVES PUT FORTH BY PRESIDENT OBAMA AND GEORGE BUSH AS A WAY TO HELP OFFSET GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN SOCIAL...
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
IS WRONG. IN PRACTICE, WHAT IS HAPPENED IN BOTH ADMINISTRATIONS AND CONTINUES TO THIS DAY, GOVERNMENT IS GIVING TAX DOLLARS TO INSTITUTIONS THAT DISCRIMINATE....
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Scully, Steven - Host
INTERESTED IN AMERICANS UNITED FOR THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, THE WEBSITE IS QU-- YOU CAN ALSO SEND US AN E-MAIL. THIS IS FROM NEWT GINGRICH...
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THAT HAVE OUTLAWED SCHOOL PRAYER, THE CROSS, THE 10 COMMANDMENTS, A SECULAR DRIVE TO RADICALIZED THIS COUNTRY. WHAT GOT ME INTO THIS IS "ONE NATION UNDER...
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YOUR REACTION? GUEST: HE SAID
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
IT WAS WRONG ABOUT ALL OF THESE THINGS. WE TRIED TO STOP A HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION FROM INTRODUCING A VARIETY OF RELIGIOUS ELEMENTS. ALL THE JUDGE WAS...
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Scully, Steven - Host
OF THE AMERICANS UNITED FOR THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. GUEST: IT WAS FORMED
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
BACK IN 1998 BY THOSE WHO THOUGHT ONE OF THE CORE PRINCIPLES OF THE COUNTRY WAS TO KEEP DISTANCE BETWEEN GOVERNMENT AND RELIGION. IT IS AN OPERATIVE NOW...
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Scully, Steven - Host
YOURSELF A RELIGIOUS PERSON? GUEST:
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
YES, ABSOLUTELY. I AM AN ORDAINED MINISTER AND PART OF THE BAR. HOST: WE WILL GO TO STEVE
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Scully, Steven - Host
FROM INDIANA. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: RELIGION
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SHOULD BE TOTALLY OUT OF GOVERNMENT. IF A CHURCH GETS THEIR NOSE INTO THE POLITICS, THEY SHOULD LOSE THEIR TAX EXEMPTIONS BECAUSE THEY SHOULD NOT BE...
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
STEVE, UNFORTUNATELY YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THAT. MANY WANT THIS GOVERNMENT TO BE ESTABLISHED AS A CHRISTIAN GOVERNMENT WHICH IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE CONSTITUTION....
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Scully, Steven - Host
TRANSPARENT NETWORK. MY COMMENTS SAYING THAT YOUR JOKE WAS FUNNY, WON THE WERE SAYING "THAT WAS NOT A GOOD ONE."
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CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE GUEST HAS TO SAY ABOUT THE RELIGION OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS. IF IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THOMAS...
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Scully, Steven - Host
HOST: THANK YOU. GUEST: NOT ONLY THAT BUT
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
IT IS CERTAINLY TRUE -- JAMES MADISON WAS A STRICT SEPARATION NEST. ONE OF THE CENSUS QUESTIONS WAS ARE YOU A MEMBER OF THE CLERGY. HE OBJECTED TO IT...
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Scully, Steven - Host
FOLLOW UPS. WE DO HAVE A NATIONAL PRAYER BREAKFAST DATING BACK TO DWIGHT EISENHOWER ATTENDING THE EVENT. PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS ATTENDED FOR THE LAST THREE...
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
IS NOT UNCONSTITUTIONAL FOR A PRESIDENT TO GO TO A NATIONAL PRAYER BREAKFAST BUT I DO NOT THINK THEY SHOULD GO TO THIS ONE RUN BY A GROUP THAT HAS A...
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Scully, Steven - Host
US ON C-SPAN RADIO IN THE BALTIMORE- WASHINGTON AREA OR COAST TO COAST, OUR GUEST IS BARRY LYNN, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE AMERICANS UNITED FOR THE...
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ASHAMED TO COMMIT I AM A CHRISTIAN, BUT YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE IN CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY TO KNOW THAT GAYS CAN BE IN THE MILLET. OPEN. AS PRESIDENT, I WILL...
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
THE WAY WE SHOULD BE RUNNING CAMPAIGNS IN THE UNITED STATES. HOST: IT MAKES UP ABOUT
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Scully, Steven - Host
60% OF THOSE WHO WILL SHOW UP ON JANUARY 3 IN IOWA. GUEST: YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
SAY THE SAME THING TO MULTIPLE GROUPS IF YOU HAVE A PRINCIPLED POSITION. YOU SHOULD ARTICULATE IT. SO MANY OF THESE PEOPLE GET MORE RELIGIOUS WHEN THEY...
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Scully, Steven - Host
JOINING US FROM VIRGINIA. GOOD MORNING. THE INDEPENDENT LINE. CALLER: I WILL
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TRY TO MAKE MY COMMENTS BRIEF. THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE NEVER RESCINDED OR AMENDED ITS STAND. IT IS AN EXISTENTIAL DOCUMENT. SEPARATION OF CHURCH...
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
AM JUST TELLING POLITICIANS THAT THEY HAVE TO TURN TO THE REAL FOUNDING DOCUMENT, THE CONSTITUTION, TO MAKE DECISIONS. IF THEY SAY I AM NOT GOING TO ...
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Scully, Steven - Host
TWEET -- GUEST: FRANKLIN
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
HAD A MIXED RECORD ABOUT RELIGION. HE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO READ THE BIBLE FOR SOME OF ITS ETHICAL TEACHINGS ALTHOUGH FRANKLY HE DID NOT NECESSARILY FOLLOW...
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Scully, Steven - Host
PRONOUNCED THE NAME OF YOUR PENNSYLVANIA TOWN. CALLER:
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IS SOUTHWEST OF PITTSBURGH. HOST:
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WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM. CALLER: THANK YOU FOR TAKING
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MY CALL, AND THINK THE CABLE COMPANIES FOR C-SPAN. HOST: THANK YOU,
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WE APPRECIATE THAT. GO AHEAD, JEROME. CALLER: I HAVE A COMMENT THAT
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IT HAS BEEN MY THINKING FOR SOME TIME THAT ORGANIZED RELIGION IS THE CAUSE OR THE BACKDROP OF EVERY WAR THAT HAS EVER BEEN FOUGHT. I WILL TAKE MY ANSWER...
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU CAN PROVE THAT IT IS THE CAUSE OF EVERY WAR, BUT IT HAS BEEN A VERY BIG FACTOR IN MANY OF THE WAR'S THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, SOME...
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Scully, Steven - Host
ANGELES, REPUBLICAN LINE, WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM. CALLER: GOOD
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MORNING. THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE DOES NOT EXIST IN THE UNITED STATES ANYMORE DUE TO THE FACT THAT ALL BACKROOM DEALS IN THE WHITE HOUSE,...
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
SOMETHING ELSE HAS HAPPENED THIS YEAR THAT MAKES THINGS EVEN WORSE. UNTIL HERMAN CAIN DROPPED OUT OF THE RACE, WE HAD FOUR PEOPLE RUNNING FOR THE NOMINATION...
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Scully, Steven - Host
SAYING "PAT ROBERTSON GETS INSTRUCTIONS FROM GOD. DO YOU HAVE GOD'S E-MAIL ADDRESS?" GUEST: I HOPE THAT
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
SAME PERSON DOES NOT WRITE AND SAY THAT IS NOT A GOOD JOKE EITHER. PAT ROBERTSON USUALLY REPORTS HIS WISDOM FROM GOD IN THE FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY. I MUST...
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Scully, Steven - Host
A THEOLOGIAN, THIS TWEET. "ASKED THIS GUY WHAT HAPPENS AFTER DEATH." GUEST: I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER DEATH, AND OF COURSE THERE ARE VARIOUS INTERPRETATIONS IN THE BIBLE ITSELF. JESUS AT ONE POINT SUGGESTS THAT HIS FATHER'S...
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Scully, Steven - Host
US FROM ROCKAWAY, NEW JERSEY, ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE. CALLER: MR. LYNN, AS
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FAR AS I'M AWARE, THE CONSTITUTION GUARANTEES US FREEDOM OF RELIGION, NOT FROM RELIGION. THANK YOU. GUEST: CAROL, I HAVE HEARD
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
THAT MANY TIMES, AND I DO NOT THINK WE HAVE A GUARANTEE AGAINST RELIGION. THAT IS TO SAY IF SOMEBODY IS RELIGIOUS OR SETS UP A CHURCH IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD...
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Scully, Steven - Host
QUESTION. "SHOULD CHRISTMAS BE A FEDERAL HOLIDAY?" GUEST: I THINK
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
THE HORSE, THE COW, AND THE PIGS ARE OUT OF THE BAR ON THAT ONE. FRANKLY, COURTS HAVE LOOKED AT THIS IDEA AND SAID SO FEW PEOPLE WOULD BE AT WORK IF IT...
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Scully, Steven - Host
LINE FROM TEXAS, GOOD MORNING. CALLER: THANK
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YOU FOR C-SPAN. MR. LYNN, EVERY WORD YOU HAVE UTTERED IS WHAT I WANT TO SAY. I HAVE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT AND MAYBE YOU CAN AFFECT IT ON...
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
IS A VERY GOOD IDEA BECAUSE POLLING QUESTIONS DO NOT OFTEN GET TO THE NUANCE OF WHAT THEY REALLY MEAN, ALLOWING PEOPLE TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHO IS...
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Scully, Steven - Host
NOT NORMALLY TALK ABOUT OTHER NETWORKS, BUT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF ATTENTION IN THE BLOGOSPHERE ABOUT FOX NEWS. "FOX & FRIENDS" IN THE MORNING TAKING...
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
AS AN OCCASIONAL VISITOR TO THE FOX NEWS CHANNEL, THIS IS TOTAL NONSENSE. THERE IS NO WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS. I WOULD LIKE TO FIND SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT...
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Scully, Steven - Host
OUT OF THE CLOSET AGNOSTICS IN THE SENATE OR IN THE HOUSE?" GUEST: THE STARTS
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
IN CALIFORNIA. BEYOND THAT, IT IS HARD TO FIND ANYBODY TAKING THAT POSITION. HOST: "ASKED BARRY LYNN
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Scully, Steven - Host
IF THERE'S ANY CANDIDATE THAT HE BELIEVES -- IF THERE'S ANY REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE THAT HE BELIEVES WOULD RESPECT THE CONCEPT OF THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH...
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
DO NOT ENDORSE CANDIDATES, AND I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYONE SUGGEST THAT SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE ARE HIGH ON HIS AGENDA. GOVERNOR ROMNEY DID SAY ONCE...
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Scully, Steven - Host
QUITE A DEBATE ON LINE WHERE THE EMAILS ARE COMING IN. FORT WORTH, TEXAS, REPUBLICAN LINE, THE MORNING. GUEST: IF THERE IS A
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
CHRISTIAN RIGHT, THERE MUST BE A PAGAN LEFT. THEYHOST: A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD SAY THAT WITH JESUS, WITH EMPHASIS OF HELPING THE POOR, JESUS WOULD BE...
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Scully, Steven - Host
OMAHA, NEBRASKA. "WHAT IS MR. LYNN'S POSITION ON THE PAIR INDICATIONS THAT TAKE PLACE BEFORE EACH SESSION OF CONGRESS?" GUEST: I THINK
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
THE SENATE CHAPLAIN HAS AN ASSISTANT, A BIG OFFICE. SO MANY PEOPLE HERE LOCALLY AROUND CAPITOL HILL WOULD BE HAPPY TO VOLUNTEER FOR THAT JOB, AND IN...
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Scully, Steven - Host
DOES MR. LYNN THINK ABOUT ISLAM?" GUEST: I THINK IT IS A
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
MAJOR FAITH, A FAITH PRACTICED IN PEACE BY MOST MUSLIMS CERTAINLY IN THE UNITED STATES AND INDEED AROUND THE WORLD. UNFORTUNATELY, THE FEW RADICALS...
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Scully, Steven - Host
SALLY FROM PITTSBURGH, INDEPENDENT LINE. GOOD MORNING.
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CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF ATTENDING A DINNER WITH MR. WHENLYNN SEVEN YEARS AGO. I'M GOING TO ASK ABOUT VERY COMPLEX PROBLEMS REGARDING...
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Scully, Steven - Host
CALL. WE WILL GET A RESPONSE. GUEST:
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
CERTAINLY THERE ARE SECULAR JEWS, AND THEY LIKE TO READ -- AND CHRISTIANS WHO HAVE BOUGHT OUT OF THE THEOLOGICAL IDEAS. I THINK WE CAN HAVE A ROBUST DEBATE...
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Scully, Steven - Host
AUTHOR AND CO-AUTHOR OF A NUMBER OF BOOKS, INCLUDING "PIETY IN POLITICS: THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT'S ASSAULT ON POLITICS." AND A TWEETER WHO IS SOMEWHAT CRITICAL...
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
GOOD MORNING -- CALLER:
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GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL AND THANK YOU FOR C-SPAN. EARLIER I HEARD YOU SAY YOU'RE A LAWYER AS WELL. I DID HAPPEN TO ATTEND COURT HEARINGS...
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
LYNN I WOULD BE FORCED TO BELIEVE YOU. MOST COURTS HAVE TRIED TO DO AWAY WITH THAT BECAUSE OF THE DIVERSITY IN THIS COUNTRY. IF YOU ARE A BELIEVER BUT...
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Scully, Steven - Host
CONCLUDE ON THAT POINT. BARRY LYNN IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF AMERICANS UNITED FOR THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. COME...
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Lynn, Barry W. - Executive Director
I WILL.
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Scully, Steven - Host
HOST: YOU CAN CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE. A LOT OF YOU CONTINUE TO SEND IN YOUR TWEETS. THE BOOK IS CALLED "WHAT TO ASK A PERSON...
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THIS HOUR FROM THE LABOR DEPARTMENT SHOWED A NUMBER OF PEOPLE APPLYING FOR THE BENEFITS DROPPED LAST WEEK TO THE LOWEST LEVEL SINCE APRIL OF 2008. EXTENDING...
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OF AMERICAN HISTORY
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