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WELCOME TO THE SECOND PANEL IN THIS CONFERENCE ON THE 60th ANNIVERSARY OF "GOD & MAN AT YALE." BILL BUCKLEY WROTE OR EDITED FOR THE NONFICTION BOOKS...
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| 00:04:56 |
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HEAR ME? I AM NEVER AT PEACE WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY. IT IS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO TELL YOU ADEQUATELY JUST HOW DELIGHTED I AM TO BE HERE ON THIS OCCASION,...
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| 00:07:29 |
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Guest. THESE OCCASIONS REMAINS VIVID. AND SURE I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU, ANOTHER -- NEITHER OF THESE WAS TAKEN UP WITH COVER SEARS'S BUT DIED OR MAN...
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| 00:15:21 |
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TO THIS CAMPUS TOOK PLACE MORE THAN 40 YEARS AGO WHICH IS A LONG AND HAS BEEN A FAR FROM UNEVENTFUL TIME FOR ME, FOR YALE AND EVEN, I WOULD VENTURE TO...
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| 00:22:39 |
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MIDGE. ROGER. >> THANK YOU VERY
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| 00:22:42 |
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MUCH. UM, WE KNOW THERE'S A STORY ABOUT THE -- RECOUNTING A PRIEST WHO WAS HEARING CONFESSION FROM SOMEONE. THE PRIEST WAS ALWAYS IN THE HABIT OF SAYING...
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| 00:26:14 |
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THIS MORNING -- >> [INAUDIBLE] >> MILITANT CATHOLIC, AND
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| 00:26:18 |
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HE TOOK HIS RELIGION VERY SERIOUSLY, INDEED. TO ME, WHAT THIS BOOK IS ABOUT IS ABOUT FREEDOM AND ITS MANY ENTRAPMENTS. THAT IS TO SAY THE FALSE ...
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| 00:34:35 |
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ROGER. [APPLAUSE] >> BOB
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| 00:34:46 |
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JERREL. >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'D
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| 00:34:48 |
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LIKE TO ADDRESS A QUESTION THAT WAS RAISED EARLIER. I THINK THE QUESTION OF WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG, YOU'RE LIBERAL AND CONSERVATIVE WHEN YOU OLD. I THINK...
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| 00:42:50 |
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THANK YOU, BOB. ARE THERE COMMENTS FROM PANEL MEMBERS BEFORE WE GO TO QUESTIONS? >> JUST ONE
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| 00:42:57 |
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COMMENT. TO BOB, YOUR OBSERVATION THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T SEE THAT FOUR YEARS OF EDUCATION MAKES MUCH DIFFERENCE. PEOPLE SEEM TO COME OUT BELIEVING...
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| 00:43:47 |
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BUT AT ANY RATE. >> SO I THINK THAT'S
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| 00:43:50 |
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ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WHEN BILL WAS APPEALING TO TRUSTEES, ALUMNI, PARENTS, I WAS GOING TO WRITE A BOOK CALLED "RETAKING THE UNIVERSITY," AND...
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| 00:45:04 |
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CARE. AND IRVING CRYSTAL WROTE SOME YEARS AGO THAT THE UNIVERSITY ALUMS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AT UNIVERSITIES, THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON AT UNIVERSITIES,...
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| 00:45:56 |
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LIKE TO -- >>
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| 00:45:57 |
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MIDGE? >> -- AS A FOOTNOTE
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| 00:45:59 |
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TO THIS DISCUSSION, I WOULD LIKE TO READ YOU FROM A STORY IN TODAY'S NEW YORK POST. JERSEY SHORE STAR VINNIE -- [INAUDIBLE] MADE A SURPRISE CAMEO THIS...
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| 00:47:02 |
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PHRASE SOCIOLOGY DEPARTMENT -- [LAUGHTER] SAYS IT ALL. >> NOW, EARLIER LEE HAD
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| 00:47:10 |
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REFER TODAY AND QUOTED LIONEL TRILLING WHO SAID SOMETHING UNTRUE AND GHASTLY WHICH IS THAT CONSERVATIVISM WAS A NERVOUS INTELLECTUAL WHATEVER. >>
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| 00:47:25 |
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THERE WAS NO CONSERVATIVISM, JUST -- IN YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. IT WAS LIKE -- >>
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| 00:47:29 |
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MENTAL GESTURES. >> AN IRRITABLE MENTAL
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| 00:47:33 |
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GESTURE. [LAUGHTER] BUT LIONEL TRILLING IS A 50-FOOT-TALL GIANT COMPARED WITH THE SOCIOLOGY DEPARTMENT AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY. [LAUGHTER] >> YOU KNOW,...
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| 00:47:51 |
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GOT -- I LOOKED AT THAT QUOTE BY TRILLING, AND I ACTUALLY USE IT IN MY BOOK THAT COMES OUT THIS SPRING CALLED "THE DEATH OF LIBERALISM." AND I WENT...
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| 00:48:34 |
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NOT AS I RECALL. [LAUGHTER] >>
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| 00:48:37 |
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ALL RIGHT. LET'S INVITE THE AUDIENCE INTO THE DISCUSSION. YOU MUST COME DOWN TO ONE OF THESE MICROPHONES, PLEASE. AND MAKE YOUR QUESTION BRIEF, BLUNT...
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| 00:48:57 |
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SAID GOT ME TO THINKING ABOUT THE WHOLE QUESTION OF HERD INSTINCT. AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS CENTURY WHEN ANSON PHELPS STOKES WAS THE SECRETARY OF THIS...
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| 00:50:08 |
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TACKLE THAT? >> WELL, I MEAN, I THINK
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| 00:50:10 |
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ONE THING IS TO SUBSCRIBE TO PUBLICATIONS LIKE "THE AMERICAN SPECTATOR." [LAUGHTER] AND THE NEW CRY CRITERION AND COMMENTARY AND NATIONAL REVIEW. YOU...
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| 00:51:07 |
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DAYS. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> ONE THING THAT'S
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| 00:51:10 |
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VERY HOPEFUL, I MUST SAY, AT PRINCETON IS ROBBIE GEORGE'S WORK. AND HE'S KIND OF GOT AN INSTITUTE JUST SET UP ON CAMPUS WHERE YOU CAN GET, TAKE COURSES...
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| 00:52:02 |
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BOB'S CHARACTERIZATION OF THAT. BUT REMEMBER THE PRINCETON ADMINISTRATION NOTICING HOW POPULAR ROBBIE'S INSTITUTE WAS HAVE JUST RECENTLY DECREED THAT...
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| 00:52:19 |
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EXAMPLE. >> THAT'S GREAT. I DON'T WANT TO GO THERE. YOU KNOW? I HAVE FUN. I LIKE TO GO TONIGHT CLUBS. [LAUGHTER] >> I HAVE LONG HAD A
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| 00:52:28 |
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PROPOSAL FOR WHAT WOULD STRENGTHEN THE AMERICAN UNIVERSITY. AND BECAUSE THERE IS A NOTION THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE A CAREER OR A REALLY WELL PAYING JOB...
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| 00:53:54 |
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PLEASE. >> DR. KESSLER,
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| 00:53:56 |
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YOU'VE CALLED AMERICAN HIGHER EDUCATION THE HIGH GROUND OF AMERICAN POLITICS. YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT JUST KIND OF GETTING AROUND THAT HIGH GROUND AND,...
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| 00:54:10 |
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THE OTHER GUY. THAT'S THE OTHER KIMBALL. >> ANYWAY, YOU'VE TALKED
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| 00:54:15 |
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ABOUT BILL'S STRATEGY OF TRYING TO GO THROUGH THE ALUMNI. HOW DO WE GET BACK THE HIGH GROUND OF AMERICAN POLITICS? IS IT POSSIBLE? SHOULD WE SEND...
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| 00:54:34 |
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THE BRIEF ANSWER. BUT I THINK THAT, UM, BOTH WHAT MIDGE SAID AND WHAT BOB SAID, I MEAN, WE NEED, I THINK, TO ENCOURAGE ALTERNATIVES. THE REAL IRONY...
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| 00:55:58 |
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RIGHT. NEXT QUESTION. >> I, LISTENING TO ALL OF
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| 00:56:01 |
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YOUR COMMENTS, I AM STRUCK FIRST OF ALL BY HOW ENORMOUSLY MUCH AMERICAN SOCIETY HAS CHANGED IN 60 YEARS. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT GOES THROUGH...
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| 00:58:24 |
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A TEACHERS' UNION. [LAUGHTER] >>
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| 00:58:27 |
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RIGHT. >> WELL, UM, I AGREE WITH
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| 00:58:30 |
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YOU ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF A PROGRAMMATIC MATERIALIST SECULAR SOCIETY AND SO ON. BUT WHEN I -- I DID NOT KNOW THAT ABOUT SAN FRANCISCO. OF COURSE, IT'S...
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| 01:00:33 |
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EXPLAIN WHY WHEN YOU FLY TO SAN FRANCISCO, YOU HEAR THIS UMMM -- [LAUGHTER] IN THE BACKGROUND. WHICH I NEVER, I NEVER QUITE UNDERSTOOD. THIS WILL HAVE...
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| 01:00:54 |
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IS A QUESTION FOR THE WHOLE PANEL. UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YOU SEEN CONVERT FROM LIBERALISM TO CONSERVATIVISM, AND IF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS MIRACLE OCCUR,...
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| 01:01:24 |
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PEOPLE HAVE I SEEN COME FROM LIBERALISM TO CONSERVATIVISM? IS THAT RIGHT? >> UM, APPROXIMATELY,
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| 01:01:30 |
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YES. >>
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| 01:01:31 |
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YES. WELL, THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. [LAUGHTER] MIDGE AND HER HUSBAND AND JEAN
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| 01:01:40 |
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KIRKPATRICK. >> OH, YES. >> AND FOR A WHILE,
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| 01:01:42 |
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PAT MOYNIHAN. >> A BRIEF
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| 01:01:44 |
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WHILE. >> ALL RIGHT, BUT
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| 01:01:45 |
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HE -- [LAUGHTER] SO WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF IT. BUT IT DID STOP, HOWEVER. AND THAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING. IT STOPPED. THE, WHAT I CALL IN THIS NEW BOOK...
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| 01:03:02 |
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THE ONE I AM FAMILIAR WITH -- [LAUGHTER] IT WAS, IT WAS MADE UP OF MANY THINGS. THE WORLD HAD GONE THROUGH A CAT CLIZ M -- CAT COLLISION M, AND NOW...
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| 01:06:30 |
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YES. ANYTHING, ANYTHING BUT AN EX-CON. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU, PANELISTS. THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. STAY SEATED, PLEASE, THE NEXT PANEL IS GOING...
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