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OLD DOMINION UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR TIMOTHY ORR TEACHES A COURSE ON THE CIVIL WAR AND RECONSTRUCTION. IN THIS LECTURE HE DISCUSSES HOW UNION AND CONFEDERATE...
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| 00:00:26 |
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EVERYONE. WELCOME. TO THOSE WHO ARE JOINING US ON C SPAN, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF. I'M DR. TIMOTHY J. ORR. I'M A PROFESSOR OF HISTORY HERE AT OLD...
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| 00:06:37 |
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THINK? NICOLE? >> TIME. >> THAT'S THE
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| 00:06:39 |
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NUMBER ONE ANSWER. WE HAVE AN HONOR CODE. WE ALL REGULATE THE ACADEMIC INTEGRITY OF THE INSTITUTION BY YOURSELVES. IT'S THE SAME THING FOR PRISONERS...
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| 00:07:59 |
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BE CAREFUL. THE GENERAL WHO QUESTIONED HIM SAID, OH, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? HE SAYS, WELL, I'VE SAID TOO MUCH. SO THEY WERE BEGGING, BEGGING MOORE...
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| 00:10:30 |
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THAT MAYBE PEOPLE DIDN'T HONOR THE PAROLE. JUST WENT OUT AND CONTINUED TO
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| 00:10:36 |
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FIGHT. >> RIGHT. BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THIS SYSTEM IS THERE'S NO POLICE AGENCY TO ENFORCE THE PAROLE SYSTEM. SO ANYONE COULD EASILY JUST SIM...
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| 00:10:55 |
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CONFEDERACY. >> YOU SAY
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| 00:10:57 |
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THAT. WHY? >> BECAUSE THEY
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| 00:10:58 |
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HAD A LOT OF THEIR SOUTHERN PRIDE AND HERITAGE. THEY WANTED TO FIGHT THIS WAR. THEY WANTED INDEPENDENCE. THEIR MOTIVATION WOULD BE WE'RE FREE NOW SO...
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| 00:11:09 |
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OKAY. IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU TALK ABOUT SORT OF LIKE SOUTHERN PRIDE AND THINGS BECAUSE WHEN WE THINK OF THE STEREOTYPICAL OLD SOUTH, WE THINK OF...
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| 00:11:38 |
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THEY HAD LESS -- THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD LESS FIGHTING MEN PERHAPS. THEY FELT THEY NEEDED THE INTELLIGENCE TO BE MORE ON PAR WITH THE UNION AMOUNT OF...
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| 00:11:45 |
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RIGHT. SO ONE OF THE ISSUES IS OF COURSE THE NUMBERS OF MEN AND THE CONFEDERACY CANNOT FORCE TO KEEP WILLING MEN ON THE HOME FRONT SITTING AND WAITING...
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| 00:12:35 |
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HER? >> BADLY. >> NOT WELL,
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| 00:12:37 |
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RIGHT? I MEAN, THESE UNION SOLDIERS SHOULD TREAT THIS PRISONER WITH RESPECT, BUT THEY KNOW WHAT SHE'S GOING TO DO WHMPT SHE'S FINALLY EXCHANGED SHE'S...
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| 00:13:31 |
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CODE. >> YOU'LL SIGN
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| 00:13:32 |
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ANOTHER ONE. EXACTLY. BUT ARE YOU GOING TO SIGN THE SAME
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| 00:13:35 |
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NAME? >> NO. >> YOU'LL MAKE SOMETHING
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| 00:13:39 |
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UP. DOES THAT UNION SOLDIER HAVE ANY WAY OF CHECKING
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| 00:13:42 |
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YOUR IDENTITY? >> NO. >>
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| 00:13:43 |
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RIGHT. THINK ABOUT THIS. THIS IS THE 19th CENTURY. WE HAVE NO DRIVER'S LICENSE, WE HAVE NO INTERNET, WE HAVE NO SOCIAL SECURITY, NO SOLDIER'S I.D....
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| 00:14:25 |
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WOULD THEY KNOW IF THEY GOT EXCHANGED OR NOT THOUGH? >>
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| 00:14:30 |
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THE PRISONER? >>
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| 00:14:31 |
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YEAH. YOU HAD YOU'D BE INFORMED BY YOUR GOVERNMENT. THEY WOULD SEND YOU NOTICE. >>
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| 00:14:34 |
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OKAY. >> AND THEN THEY'D SAY,
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| 00:14:36 |
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YOU ARE EXCHANGED. YOU HAVE SUCH AND SUCH A TIME TO REPORT BACK TO YOUR UNIT. >> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT
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| 00:14:43 |
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THE OFFICER ME AGAIN IF I GOT CAP TURTD BY THE SAME OFFICER, HOW WOULD HE KNOW THAT I GOT EXCHANGED. >>
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THEY WOULDN'T. THEY WOULDN'T AT ALL. >> SO I COULD
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FIGHT THAT. >>
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| 00:14:52 |
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EXACTLY. >> THE POINT
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| 00:14:53 |
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IS THERE ARE MANY HOLES IN THIS OPERATION. BY THE SECOND YEAR OF THE WAR THEY ARE ALREADY STARTING TO SHRED, BOTH UNION AND CON IF HE HAD DEER RATE...
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MIGHT. >> THEY
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| 00:18:23 |
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MIGHT. UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS MIGHT THEY LET YOU
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OUT. >> BRIBERY. >>>
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| 00:18:28 |
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BRIBERY. RIGHT. BECAUSE THESE AREN'T CONFEDERATE GUARDS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THESE ARE YOUR OWN MEN. WHAT ARE SOME OTHER CONDITIONS YOU COULD USE TO...
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| 00:18:47 |
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EXACTLY. THIS PHASE OCCURS DURING ONE OF THE DARKEST TIMES FOR THE UNION ARMY, WHEN IN 1863 CONSIDER YOU'RE A UNION PRISONER. YOU'VE BEEN TAKING AT...
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| 00:20:40 |
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BACK TO THE ARMY. >> YOU LIKE TO GO BACK TO
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| 00:20:44 |
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THE ARMY, RIGHT? YOU LIKE TO REJOIN YOUR COMRADES. WOULD SOME OF THEM HAVE QUALMS ABOUT THIS? >>
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HONOR. >> IF HONOR IS IMPORTANT TO
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| 00:20:56 |
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YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO TELL LEE THAT HE'S GOT TO GO AWAY AND HE HAS TO HONOR THIS SYSTEM THAT'S IN PLACE. THE TROUBLESOME THING FOR THE UNION SOLDIERS...
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| 00:33:02 |
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SAFETY. >> THEY
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| 00:33:05 |
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WANT SAFETY. THEY WANT OUT OF THE UNION ARMY. AND THEY FIND THEY HAVE SOME BRETHREN IN THE INMATES. THEY WANT OUT OF POINT LOOKOUT. THE BOUNTY JUMPERS...
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| 00:46:53 |
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JACKSON? >> OF UNION
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| 00:46:57 |
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REGIMENTS. >> WOULD IT BE LIKE THE
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| 00:46:59 |
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USCT? >>
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| 00:47:00 |
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RIGHT. ONE OF THE THINGS, THIS IS WHERE OFFICERS OF THE USCT GO. THAT'S ONE REALLY KIND OF HATED GROUP OF OFFICERS THE UNION ARMY IS. DOES ANYONE...
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| 00:50:16 |
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YOU MIGHT GET SHOT. >> YOU'RE GOING TO GET
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| 00:50:18 |
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SHOT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE SENTRIES ARE. IF THEY SEE ANYONE LOOKING AT THE WINDOW, THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SHOOT. SO IMAGINE GOING OUT THAT...
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| 00:56:30 |
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TO SPLIT IT? >> VERY CAREFULLY. >> VERY CAREFULLY
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| 00:56:34 |
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INDEED. BECAUSE IF YOU COME UP SHORT, WHO DOESN'T GET THE RATION? >> YOU
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| 00:56:39 |
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DO. >> SO THIS IS
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| 00:56:41 |
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KIND OF THE PRICKLY SITUATION HERE. THE PERSON WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ISSUING THESE RATIONS HAS THE MOST POWER, AND ALSO THE ONES WHO STAND TO SUFFER...
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| 01:03:15 |
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WITH HOPE STILL BEATING IN OUR NORTHERN HOMES, WAITING, WATCHING FOR THE FOOTSTEPS THAT WILL NEVER, NEVER COME. IN SOUTHERN PRISONS PINING, MEAGER,...
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| 01:04:04 |
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TO DIE. >> OKAY. SO YOU GET A SENSE OF THE PESSIMISM AND THE FATALISM THAT THESE UNION PRISONERS EXPERIENCED AT ANDERSONVILLE, THAT THERE WAS NO...
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| 01:10:16 |
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THEY WERE TRYING TO PUT BLAME ON SOMEBODY MAYBE. AND THAT WAS THE PERSON THAT THE SOLDIERS WENT TO, THE PRISONERS WERE LIKE, THAT'S THE GUY. AND TO...
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| 01:10:44 |
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OF REASONS WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER IN THE COURSE OF WHY DAVIS IS NOT TRIED BECAUSE THEY HAVE -- THERE'S MANY THINGS THEY WANT TO TRY HIM FOR, INCLUDING...
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| 01:11:03 |
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I THINK YES AND NO JUST BECAUSE YOU ALSO HAD THE SOUTH BEING CUT OFF AND HAVING LACK OF FOOD AND EVERYTHING ELSE FOR THEIR CITIZENS, LET ALONE THE ...
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| 01:11:53 |
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PROBLEM. I MEAN, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE WHERE THE NORTHERN PUBLIC IS COMING FROM WITH THIS CARTOON BECAUSE THEY'RE SHOWING KIND OF THE COMPARISON...
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| 01:13:21 |
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CHARGE? >> ABOLITIONISTS? >> OH, A GOOD
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| 01:13:24 |
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GUESS. GOOD GUESS RYAN BUT ACTUALLY NOT. >> MAYBE THE SANITATION
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PEOPLE? >> LIKE
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| 01:13:30 |
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CLARA BARTON OR -- >> PEOPLE
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| 01:13:32 |
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CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE TERRIBLE CONDITIONS? >> THERE ARE MANY
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| 01:13:34 |
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HUMANITARIANS THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS. BUT I SAY THE REAL LEADERS OF THIS CHARGE ARE NORTHERN WOMEN, MOTHERS. LISTEN TO THIS SHOCKING...
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| 01:16:54 |
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THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT THEM. THEY WERE PRISONERS. THEY OBVIOUSLY SHOWED THEY DIDN'T CARE. THEY WERE FEEDING THEM WEEK-OLD MEAT...
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| 01:17:14 |
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COULD BE ALSO LIKE THE WHOLE THEORY OF THE 19th CENTURY OF LIKE BATTLEFIELD, DEATH ON THE BATTLEFIELD WAS MORE COURAGEOUS AND IF YOU'RE A PRISONER...
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| 01:17:40 |
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YEAH, POSSIBILITY. IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY BECAUSE STARTING OFF, WE HAVE A WHOLE WAVE OF RESPECT. I MEAN, THEY'RE TREATED KINDLY. THE NEW YORK SOLDIERS...
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| 01:17:56 |
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IT ALSO WITH THE CIVIL WAR, WE HAD NEVER SEEN P.O.W.s ON A SCALE OF THIS MANY. WE NEVER HAD A SITUATION WHERE WE HAD THIS MANY PRISONERS ALL AT ONCE....
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| 01:18:19 |
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I'M NOT REALLY SATISFIED BY THIS QUESTION OF SUPPLY. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS BRING UP EEMS LIKE EACH OF THE PHASES THAT THEY CREATE JUST SORT OF PUSHES...
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| 01:18:50 |
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TO SAY THAT OBVIOUSLY IN THE DIFFERENT FACES, WHERE IT CAME FROM, IT SHOWED THAT AS THEY GOT MORE NUMBERS, WHAT YOU JUST SAID A SECOND AGO, LIKE MAYBE...
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| 01:19:18 |
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GOING WITH IT. >> RIGHT. >> GETTING TIRED OF
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| 01:19:23 |
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WAR. NICOLE? >> ALSO,
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| 01:19:24 |
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THE SOLDIERS THAT ARE GUARDING THE CAMPS, THEY ALSO FEEL THAT THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY'RE HELPING THEIR SIDE WIN IS BY DESTROYING THESE PEOPLE WHO...
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| 01:19:49 |
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RIGHT. CERTAINLY IF WE CONSIDER THAT EXPLANATION, THAT IT'S JUST SORT OF THE ANIMOSITY THAT COMES OUT OF THE WAR, THAT FUELS THINGS LIKE THE FENCE-LINE...
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.