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Stearns, Clifford "Cliff" - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
COMMITTEE IS HOLDING AN INVESTIGATIVE HEARING AND DOING SO HAS HAD THE PRACTICE OF TAKING TESTIMONY UNDER OATH. DO YOU
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Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO TESTIFYING UNDER OATH? THE CHAIR ADVISES YOU THAT UNDER THE RULES OF THE HOUSE AND THE RULES OF THE COMMITTEE YOU ARE ENTITLED...
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Stearns, Clifford "Cliff" - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE ANEED ACCESS TO THE LONG-TERM SUPPORT TO MAKE THAT POSSIBLE. IN ADDITION TO THE C.L.A.S.S. ACT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT ...
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Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
REAL SOLUTIONS TO THOSE CHALLENGES. WE WELCOME THE DOWNTOWN DISCUSS THIS TOPIC WITH YOU TODAY. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY. WE ARE PREPARED...
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Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
WITH BAITED BREATH IS HAS THE C.L.A.S.S. ACT ACTIVITIES BEEN SHUT DOWN? >> IF I MAY RESPOND BY FIRST BE -- >> I'M ASKING. WE ASK A QUESTION. >> WE ARE...
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| 00:06:37 |
Stearns, Clifford "Cliff" - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
DO NOT HAVE A C.L.A.S.S. ACT PROGRAM? >> WE NEVER DID. >> WHEN WE PASSED THE LEGISLATION YOU DIDN'T INTERPRET THAT AS LEGISLATION FOR IMPLEMENTATION...
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Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
THE CLOCK START? I'M SORRY. SO WE HEARD FROM MS. GREENLEE. DR. GLIED THE QUESTION IS HAS THE C.L.A.S.S. ACT BEEN SHUT DOWN AS A PROGRAM? JUST YOUR ANSWER....
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Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
IN 2009? >> NO, SIR NOT UNTIL MAY OF 2010 DID I START. >> HOW EARLY WERE YOU AWARE OF THE ASSUMPTIONS. >> IT WAS SEVERAL MONTHS AFTER I BEGAN WORKING...
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Stearns, Clifford "Cliff" - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
WITH A BILL IN WHICH RICK FOSTER AND OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES INDICATED THAT IT'S NOT SOUND FINANCIAL
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Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
LONG TERM KIND OF MAKE IT ACTUARIAL. >> THERE'S VIGOROUS DEBATE WITH RESPECTED ANALYSTS ARGUING IT WAS VIABLE AND OTHERS ARGUING IT WAS NOT. THAT'S...
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Pallone, Frank Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] New Jersey
DELIBERATE EFFORT ON THE PART OF HHS BEFORE PASSAGE OF THE LAW TO AVOIDING THESE UNPLEASANT REALITIES, AND OF COURSE AS POINTED OUT ON OUR SIDE,...
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| 00:14:18 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
BE APPOINTED BY THE PRESIDENT, THE COUNCIL IS TO BE COME PRICED OF IMPORTANT STAKEHOLDERS AND THOSE WHO MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM TO NAME A FEW....
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Pallone, Frank Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] New Jersey
OUR STATEMENT THAT WE ARE VERY INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS OF ALL TYPES. WITH CONGRESS, WITH THE CONSUMER ADVOCATES WHO FOUGHT SO HARD FOR...
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| 00:16:14 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
OF THE C.L.A.S.S. PROGRAM. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS COUNCIL COULD BE NOT JUST THERE TO IMPLEMENT WHAT YOU DECIDE OR NOT TO DECIDE BUT ACTUALLY A WAY...
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| 00:17:36 |
Pitts, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Representative, [R] Pennsylvania
US DO NOT AGREE WITH YOUR DECISION TO PUT THIS ON HOLD. AND I THINK IF YOU HAVE THIS ADVISORY COUNCIL IN PLACE, HOPEFULLY THEY CAN LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES...
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Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT. TOO MANY OF US HAVE WORKED TOO HARD ON THIS AND WE FEEL THIS CAN BE DONE. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT THIS CONGRESS TO TAKE...
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Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
TWO OFFICES THAT ASSISTANT SECRETARY GLIED AND I RUN SPENT JUST UNDER $5 MILLION. THAT'S A REFLECTION OF THE WORK FROM BOTH ENDEAVORS. >> NOW, ACCORDING...
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| 00:23:12 |
DeGette, Diana L. - U.S. Representative, [D] Colorado
WERE ANY OF THE 75 YEAR ACTUARIAL ANALYSIS CONDUCTED BEFORE IT WAS PASSED? >> BEFORE THE LEGISLATION PASSED WE HAD A CONTRACT, ONGOING CONTRACT WITH...
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| 00:24:08 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
FIND EFFECTIVE WAYS TO HELP AMERICANS PREPARE FOR AND FINANCE THEIR LONG TERM CARE NEEDS AND I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY ALL OF US AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT....
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| 00:28:41 |
Shimkus, John M. - U.S. Representative, [R] Illinois
SOMETHING LIKE THE C.L.A.S.S. ACT, SOME KIND OF A VIABLE SOLUTION TO HELP PEOPLE GET LONG TERM HEALTH INSURANCE THAT THEY CAN AFFORD AND DOESN'T EXCLUDE...
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| 00:31:25 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
OF USING A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION. >> THE REPORT HERE DOES IDENTIFY THIS AS AN OPTION BUT WAS RULED THAT YOU HAD NO LEGAL AUTHORITY TO IMPLEMENT THIS....
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| 00:33:35 |
Waxman, Henry - U.S. Representative, [D] California
DOUBLE COUNTED MEDICARE. THE $500 BILLION MEDICARE CUT WERE SCORED FOR HEALTH CARE AND THEY WERE SCORED FOR EXTENDING MEDICARE SOLVENCY. NOW YOU ADD...
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| 00:34:47 |
Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
PAID FOR AND MORE BY NEW REVENUES AND BY IMPROVEMENTS THAT CUT THE OVERALL COST OF HEALTH CARE, CUT WASTE, FRAUD AND ABUSE FROM THE MEDICARE MEDICAID...
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Terry, Lee - U.S. Representative, [R] Nebraska
DOESN'T PAY FOR THAT ASSISTANCE THAT THEY MAY NEED, ISN'T THAT CORRECT? >> YES. >> WELL, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS PEOPLE HAVE IN TRYING TO BUY INSURANCE...
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Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
TO BUY INTO A PROGRAM EVEN WITH THEIR DISABILITIES, ISN'T THAT CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >> SO WE STILL NEED TO ADDRESS THIS LONG TERM CARE INSURANCE? >>...
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| 00:44:31 |
Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
HAD TO GO WITH THE MORE EXPENSIVE OPTION. HOME HEALTH CARE, UNFORTUNATELY, THOUGH HAS BEEN COST FOR HOME CARE AND ACCESS HAS ACTUALLY BEEN CUT OVER...
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| 00:45:28 |
Dingell, John D. Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] Michigan
MONEY FOLLOWS THE PERSON. WE HAVE A NEW COMMUNITY CHOICE OPTION THAT ARE ALL INTENDED TO HELP PEOPLE STAY IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE EXPANDED ACCESS TO...
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| 00:46:55 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
MADAM SECRETARY, WHEN YOU TESTIFIED BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE YOU WILL RECALL I ASKED YOU WHETHER YOU HAD ALL THE AUTHORITY YOU NEEDED IN THE DEPARTMENT...
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Gingrey, Phil MD - U.S. Representative, [R] Georgia
YIELD IF I HAVE TIME. I WANT TO MAKE THIS OBSERVATION. WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CONFRONT. ALL WE HEAR FROM MY REPUBLICAN...
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| 00:51:49 |
Burgess, Michael C. M.D. - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
QUESTIONING ASKED ABOUT THE ADVISORY COUNCIL ON LONG TERM CARE AND I BELIEVE SECRETARY GREENLEE TALKED ABOUT IT AND SAID NO, IT WAS STOPPED AND THEREFORE...
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| 00:52:57 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
THE BENEFIT, IS THAT CORRECT? WHEN YOU'RE STRUCK DURING A PROGRAM, WHEN RICHARD FOSTER WAS LOOKING TO PROVIDE THE ACTUARIAL INFORMATION AS TO WHETHER...
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| 00:53:32 |
Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
ON? >> THIS IS HOW I NEED TO ASK THE QUESTION. MISS GREENLEE, DID YOU DO MODELS TO LOOK AT WHAT THE PREMIUM POINT WOULD HAVE TO BE TO SUPPORT THE C.L.A.S.S.
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Burgess, Michael C. M.D. - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
SIGNIFICANT. >> YES, SIR. >> WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? >> IT DEPENDED, DEPENDING ON THE DIFFERENT MODEL THAT WE WERE RUNNING. THE C.L.A.S.S. ACT AS MODIFIED...
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| 00:56:10 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
OF MEDICAID INTO A PRIVATE LONG TERM CARE PRODUCT, THAT THE SAVINGS WOULD BE SUBSTANTIAL, I THINK $160 BILLION WAS THE FIGURE THIS COMMITTEE RECEIVED...
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| 00:57:01 |
Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
BECAUSE YOU HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED YOU HAVE PRIVATE INSURANCE, I KNOW YOU'RE AWARE THE PRIVATE MARKET OFF EARS COMPREHENSIVE PRODUCT WHICH IS FAR DIFFERENT...
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Green, Gene - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
CLINTON'S HEALTH CARE TASK FORCE. >> I DID NOT. >> DIE. >> AS I RECALL, THERE WAS A LONG TERM CARE PIECE TO THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, THERE WAS....
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| 01:02:17 |
Murphy, Timothy "Tim" - U.S. Representative, [R] Pennsylvania
LONG TERM CARE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID EARLIER, A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS ADOPT HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES THAT FEDERAL EMPLOYEES HAVE, STATE EMPLOYEES...
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| 01:03:03 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR FORTHRIGHTNESS DURING OUR HEARING LAST MARCH WHERE YOU AND I DISCUSSED THE ADMINISTRATION WAS DOUBLE COUNTING...
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| 01:05:36 |
Burgess, Michael C. M.D. - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
THIS IS CORRECT. THAT WITHDRAWING THE HEALTH CARE BILL WOULD LEAVE A GAP OF 80 OR 85 BILLION. ATE DECISION OF SOME MAGNITUDE SO I'M WONDER IF THERE...
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| 01:07:31 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
THERE WERE TWO RESOLUTIONS OF INQUIRY THAT WERE HEARD BY THIS COMMITTEE AND ONE OF THEM DEALT WITH EXACTLY THIS SET OF FACTS THAT IS WAS THE CONGRESS...
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| 01:07:58 |
Christensen, Donna M. - Congressional Delegate, [D] Virgin Islands
THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT OF THE DOCUMENTS PROVIDED, THAT MR. FOSTER, IN FACT, QUESTIONED HIMSELF IN JUNE OF 2009. SO DO YOU SEE WHY SOME...
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| 01:09:07 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
LONG TERM CARE. THAT'S NOT THE CASE. BUT I HOPE THAT WANT WE CAN AT LEAST SAY THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND THE MONEY WE SPENT ON C.L.A.S.S. TO DATE HAS...
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| 01:11:41 |
Gingrey, Phil MD - U.S. Representative, [R] Georgia
TO TAKE CARE OF PATIENTS IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS AND ONE OF THOSE IS WHEN THEY ARE CHRONICALLY DISABLED OR END OF LIFE AND I ALWAYS ENCOURAGE MY PATIENTS...
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| 01:12:28 |
Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
YOU. AND MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS SEGUE INTO WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY. I WANT AT THE OUTSET WANT TO TELL YOU I'M FORECLOSING THIS OFFICE DOWN AND NOT...
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| 01:16:09 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
PLAN AS THE C.L.A.S.S. INDEPENDENCE BENEFIT PLAN NO LATER THAN OCTOBER THE 1st, 2012. THAT'S A YEAR FROM NOW. ABSENT REPEAL, IF THE SECRETARY CANNOT...
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| 01:17:18 |
Schakowsky, Janice "Jan" - U.S. Representative, [D] Illinois
THIS STATUTE ON THE BOOKS THERE JUST ALMOST BEGGING SOMEONE TO COME FORWARD AND SUE THE DEPARTMENT AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR NOT PROVIDING SOMETHING...
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| 01:20:33 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
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| 01:22:39 |
Latta, Bob - U.S. Representative, [R] Ohio
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| 01:23:43 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
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| 01:25:09 |
Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
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| 01:27:52 |
Castor, Katherine "Kathy" Anne - U.S. Representative, [D] Florida
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| 01:31:28 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
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| 01:32:10 |
Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
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| 01:34:03 |
Gardner, Cory - U.S. Representative, [R] Colorado
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| 01:36:54 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
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| 01:38:56 |
Griffith, H. "Morgan" Morgan - U.S. Representative, [R] Virginia
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| 01:39:32 |
Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
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| 01:40:24 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
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| 01:44:48 |
Cassidy, William "Bill" M.D. - U.S. Representative, [R] Louisiana
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| 01:47:53 |
Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
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| 01:50:34 |
Bilbray, Brian P. - U.S. Representative, [R] California
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| 01:52:42 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
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| 01:56:57 |
Stearns, Clifford "Cliff" - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
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| 01:57:47 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
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| 01:58:11 |
Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
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| 02:02:58 |
Pallone, Frank Jr. - U.S. Representative, [D] New Jersey
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| 02:04:41 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
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| 02:06:37 |
Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
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| 02:07:45 |
Pitts, Joseph "Joe" - U.S. Representative, [R] Pennsylvania
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| 02:08:08 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
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| 02:08:36 |
Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
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| 02:12:38 |
DeGette, Diana L. - U.S. Representative, [D] Colorado
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| 02:15:33 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
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| 02:16:32 |
Burgess, Michael C. M.D. - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
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| 02:17:41 |
Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
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| 02:20:57 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
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| 02:22:15 |
Griffith, H. "Morgan" Morgan - U.S. Representative, [R] Virginia
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| 02:24:22 |
Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
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| 02:26:12 |
Cassidy, William "Bill" M.D. - U.S. Representative, [R] Louisiana
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| 02:27:16 |
Glied, Sherry - Assistant Secretary
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| 02:29:35 |
Greenlee, Kathy - Assistant Secretary
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| 02:31:11 |
Stearns, Clifford "Cliff" - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
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| 02:31:44 |
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