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McCaul, Michael - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
BE JOINING US SOON. WE HAVE VOTES SCHEDULED IN ABOUT 15 MINUTES. SO I NEED TO BEGIN THE PROCEEDING. AND WE'LL GIVE OUR OPENING STATEMENTS AND SEE HOW...
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Keating, William "Bill" R. - U.S. Representative, [D] Massachusetts
MASSACHUSETTS THAT I CALL THE BOSTON AUSTIN CONNECTION. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU FOR CONDUCTING THIS HEARING. I WANT TO THANK OUR RANKING...
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Thompson, Bennie - U.S. Representative, [D] Mississippi
INDUSTRY. >> THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE FULL COMMITTEE MR. THOMPSON. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR CONDUCTING TO...
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| 00:16:35 |
McCaul, Michael - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
FRIEND HENRY SUPPORTED. I THINK MOST SIGNIFICANTLY DOUBLING THE SIZE OF THE BEST TEAMS DOWN ON THE BORDER WHICH CAN CONFISCATE THE CASH AND WEAPONS GOING...
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McCaul, Michael - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
TESTIMONY. FIRST WE HAVE MR. TODD STAPLES, A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE FROM THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS. HE'S THE 11th TEXAS COMMISSIONER OF AGRICULTURE AND...
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Staples, Todd - Commissioner
COUNTRY. FOR THE RECORD, I'M TODD STEP LZ, TEXAS COMMISSION OF AGRICULTURE. I CERTAINLY WISH WE WERE HERE TODAY CELEBRATING THE PRODUCTIVITY THE...
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McCaffrey, Barry R. - Director
MR. CHAIRMAN AND TO RANKING MEMBER KEATING AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE TODAY AND TALK ABOUT THE REPORT WHICH YOU'VE...
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| 00:30:28 |
McCaul, Michael - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
GENERAL. I KNOW YOU REFERENCED TO THIS AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN ARTICLE. NOTING HOW I THINK VIOLENT DRUG GANG USES AUSTIN AS U.S. BASE. I THINK THERE...
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Cuellar, Henry - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
TO OBJECT TO THAT. I JUST WANT TO PUT FOR THE RECORD THAT AUSTIN IS NOT THE BORDER. I THINK THE FOCUS FROM EVERYBODY IS THE BORDERS. I HAVE NO OBJECTION...
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| 00:32:03 |
McCaul, Michael - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
BORDER STATES. FRANKLY, THE INFILTRATION IN THE ENTIRE NATION AND THE THREAT THAT DRUG CARTELS POSE TO THE ENTIRE NATION. >> MY GOOD FRIEND, I DON'T...
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| 00:32:30 |
Cuellar, Henry - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
REPORT IN ONE SENTENCE, THE CONCLUSION IS DOING BUSINESS ON A BORDER COUNTY. THAT IS SPECIFICALLY THEIR LANGUAGE IS LIKE DOING BUSINESS IN A WAR...
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Scales, Robert H. Jr. - Major General
MY TESTIMONY WILL BE PRINCIPALLY FOCUSED ON THE STUDY THAT WE WROTE. FIVE YEARS AGO THE HOMELAND SECURITY SUBCOMMITTEE AUTHORED THE REPORT "A LINE IN...
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Aguilar, Sylvia - Chief Deputy Sheriff, El Paso
TO 30 YEARS I HAVE SERVED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. FOR 25 YEARS I WORKED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BEING PROMOTED FROM THE RANKS FROM DETECTIVE TO DEPUTY...
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Vickers, Michael - Director
TEXAS. BROOKS COUNTY CONTAINS A BORDER PATROL CHECKPOINT THAT IS 65 MILES FROM THE MEXICAN BORDER. I HAVE COME HERE TODAY TO TESTIFY ON THE VIOLENCE,...
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| 00:48:47 |
McCaul, Michael - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
FORWARD TO ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU DR. VICKERS FOR YOUR VERY VIVID TESTIMONY. LET ME SAY FROM THE OUTSET, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A...
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| 00:50:21 |
McCaffrey, Barry R. - Director
CHAIRMAN, LET ME BEGIN BY THANKING CHIEF DEPUTY AGUILAR FOR TESTIMONY. I MIGHT ADD I DON'T HAVE A BIT OF DISAGREEMENT ABOUT EL PASO AS A CITY OR...
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Scales, Robert H. Jr. - Major General
WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE? >> I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. I'M A SOLDIER AND WE WROTE THIS REPORT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE MILITARY. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS CUT...
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Keating, William "Bill" R. - U.S. Representative, [D] Massachusetts
IN MY COUNTY WE HIT ONE OF THE LOWEST HOMICIDE RATES. THE PRESS WOULD CALL ME UP AND ASK ME ABOUT THAT. I WOULD SAY I'M NOT HAPPY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE...
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McCaffrey, Barry R. - Director
A CRIMINAL THREAT. THIS ISN'T WAR. THE SOLUTION AREN'T MILITARY. THE LAST THING WE WANT IS UNU.S. SOLDIER ACROSS THAT BORDER EVEN IF INVITED BY THE...
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| 01:07:39 |
McCaul, Michael - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
AS WE DRAW DOWN IN THE GAFFE BEGAN CONFLICT IT'S MY HOPE THAT WE CAN CHANNEL THE RESOURCES TO THIS THREAT IN OUR BACKYARD. IT'S MY HOPE AS THE BEST...
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Duncan, Jeff - U.S. Representative, [R] South Carolina
THINK ANYONE THAT'S FOLLOWED THE ISSUE OF THE SOUTHERN BORDER AND HEFRZ AND THE MEXICAN DRUG CARTEL, I DON'T THINK IT CAUGHT ANY OF US BY SURPRISE THAT...
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McCaffrey, Barry R. - Director
YOU ASK ME TWO QUESTIONS, I MAY FORGET THE FIRST ONE. IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT OUR PRIMARY THREAT ACROSS THAT BORDER IS DRUGS. # THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING....
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Scales, Robert H. Jr. - Major General
GET BETTER AT DETECTING AND TRACKING TERRORISTS FROM THESE NAMED COUNTRIES, THE TERRORISTS GET MORE COMMITTED TO COMING TO AMERICA THROUGH THE UNPROTECTED...
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Thompson, Bennie - U.S. Representative, [D] Mississippi
THE, GENTLEMAN. CHAIR RECOGNIZES CHAIRMAN OF THE FULL COMMITTEE, MR. THOMPSON. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET ME THANK OUR WITNESSES FOR THEIR VERY THOUGHTFUL...
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| 01:18:01 |
McCaffrey, Barry R. - Director
THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU. BY THE WAY, ONE OF THE POLITICAL PROBLEMS I THINK YOU FACE, NOT ME IS IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET RESOURCES...
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Vickers, Michael - Director
RESOURCES DO YOU SEE AS HELPFUL TO A COUNTY LIKE YOURS? >> THIS NEEDS TO START AT THE RURAL LEVELS. RURAL COUNTIES HAVE THAT BORDER PATROL CHECK POINTS...
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Bilirakis, Gus Michael - U.S. Representative, [R] Florida
THE IRANIANS IN YOUR OPINION OPENING UP EMBASSIES AS THE GENTLEMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA INDICATED THROUGHOUT LATIN AMERICA INCLUDING COUNTRIES WHERE...
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Scales, Robert H. Jr. - Major General
THEM AN ENTREE OR A LAUNCH POINT OR A LITTLY PAD FOR ENTRY INTO THE UNITED STATES. WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND, IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE CARTELS...
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McCaffrey, Barry R. - Director
WELL? >> THE DOMINANT CONCERN IS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY DISTRIBUTING DRUGS IN OUR CITIES. THERE'S ABOUT FIVE MILLION AMERICANS KRON CLICK ADDICTED TO ILLEGAL...
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| 01:29:26 |
Scales, Robert H. Jr. - Major General
WHO DESCRIBED THE CARTEL OPERATION, THEY HAVE WORLD CLASS COMMUNICATIONS THAT WAS ENCRYPTED. THEY HAVE AUTOMATIC WEAPONS IN MANY WAYS THAT WERE SUPERIOR...
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| 01:30:49 |
Cuellar, Henry - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
UNDERSTANDING. >> SINCE I'M BUYING YOU LUNCH AFTER THAT. >> I'M ON THE ETHICS COMMITTEE. A MEMBER GIFT IS ALLOWED. THAT'S OKAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH....
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| 01:34:05 |
McCaffrey, Barry R. - Director
IS -- DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE 50 MURDERED MEXICAN NATIONALS IN THAT COUNTY THAT DOCTOR VICKERS TAKES INTO ACCOUNT. IF YOU WANT TO USE THE LANGUAGE,...
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| 01:35:13 |
Scales, Robert H. Jr. - Major General
CORRECT? >> WE HAD FIVE PEOPLE WORK FOUR MONTHS ON THIS REPORT. >> WITHOUT DUE GENERAL. >> WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD FOR A SECOND. I DO THINK THESE ARE...
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| 01:39:48 |
McCaffrey, Barry R. - Director
FEDERAL REPORTS THAT ARE PUBLISHED. SECONDLY, IT'S BASED ON MY PERSONAL 15 YEARS OF DEALING WITH THE BORDER IN MEXICO. AND I THINK WE TRIED TO LISTEN...
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| 01:41:52 |
Keating, William "Bill" R. - U.S. Representative, [D] Massachusetts
POINTS. I'D LIKE TO FURTHER ASK ANONYMOUS CONSENT THAT MISS JACKSON BE ALLOWED IN TURN AS A COMMITTEE MEMBER TO TESTIFY. NUMBER TWO, I WANT TO BE VERY...
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| 01:42:36 |
McCaul, Michael - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
SOME EXTENT I BELIEVE IT'S FLAWED IN TERMS OF NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DRUG TRAFFICKING. IT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT -- IT FAILS TO MEASURE KIDNAPPING,...
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| 01:43:22 |
Jackson Lee, Sheila - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
BECAUSE I'M BEING CALLED TO THE FLOOR WITH AN AMENDMENT. LET ME THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR QUESTIONING AND POLLS AND SAY TO THE WITNESSES THAT ARE...
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| 01:45:34 |
McCaffrey, Barry R. - Director
KNOW, I THINK SECRETARY NAPOLITANO AND HER TWO PREDECESSOR PREDECESSORS, STARTED WITH NOTHING, CREATED 180,000-PERSON DEPARTMENT, 23 AGENCIES, HAVE ENHANCED...
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Reyes, Silvestre - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
FIRST QUESTION TO YOU, GENERAL SCALES, DID YOU VISIT OR CONSULT WITH THE EL PASO INTELLIGENCE CENTER TO DO THIS REPORT? >> NO. THE INTELLIGENCE CENTER...
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Scales, Robert H. Jr. - Major General
I GUESS I WENT THERE THREE TIMES. I HAD A CHANCE IN FACT IF I COULD JUST GIVE A PLUG FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, THAT IS ONE OF THE BEST THREE-LEVEL TACTICAL...
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Staples, Todd - Commissioner
YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL MAYORS ALONG THE TEXAS-MEXICO BORDER, BUT 93% OF THE BORDER BETWEEN TEXAS AND MEXICO IS AN UNINCORPORATED AREA, AND IT IS OVERWHELMINGLY...
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| 02:00:40 |
McCaffrey, Barry R. - Director
TO FURTHER YOUR POINT, HALF THE ILLEGAL ENTRIES INTO THIS COUNTRY THIS DAY COME BY AIR. SO IT'S NOT JUST THE CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION. IT'S ALSO...
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| 02:01:33 |
McCaul, Michael - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. I THINK THAT WAS A VERY CONSTRUCTIVE QUESTION AND ANSWER. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM HOUSTON, TEXAS, MR.
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Green, Al - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
GREEN. >> THE INTERLOEPER. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I THANK THE RANKING MEMBERS AS WELL FOR ACCORDING ME THIS HONOR OF BEING PART OF THIS AUGUST...
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| 02:02:37 |
Cuellar, Henry - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
A LONG WAY. MY ONLY POINT IS, LIVING ON THE BORDER, I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CONCLUSIONS THAT CAME OUT. THE CRS REPORT THAT CAME OUT THAT YOU...
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Green, Al - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
ESPECIALLY WANT TO THANK THE GENERALS, BECAUSE YOU ARE THE -- TO A CERTAIN EXTENT THE GENESIS OF MY THOUGHTS TODAY, BECAUSE I HAD OTHER THINGS THAT...
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| 02:07:39 |
McCaul, Michael - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
COMMENTS. I JUST WANT TO CLOSE BY SAYING THIS HAS BEEN A VERY SPIRITED AND LIVELY DEBATE. I THINK IT'S A DEBATE WE NEED TO HAVE AS A COUNTRY. AND I WANT...
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| 02:08:09 |
McCaffrey, Barry R. - Director
IT. AGAIN, I THINK COMMISSIONER STAPLES REALLY GOT TO THE HEART AND MATTER OF IT. WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE WAR ALONG THE TEXAS FRONTIER, THAT WAS...
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| 02:11:17 |
Staples, Todd - Commissioner
A MOMENT TO SAY SOMETHING. GENERAL STAPLES? >> THANK YOU FOR THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE TODAY. I THINK THE TESTIMONY IS VERY CLEAR THAT TEXAS FARMERS AND...
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| 02:12:06 |
McCaffrey, Barry R. - Director
ARE BEGINNING TO HAVE INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO PROTECT OUR FRONTIER. AND I URGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THAT. >> THANK YOU. GENERAL...
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| 02:12:20 |
Scales, Robert H. Jr. - Major General
MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE. MY SUGGESTION IS TO GET AWAY FROM THE NUMBERS. MURDER RATES OR URBAN VIOLENCE OR THE STATISTICS HERE AND THERE, THIS...
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Aguilar, Sylvia - Chief Deputy Sheriff, El Paso
TO AGAIN STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF CONTINUING TO PROVIDE US WITH HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT FUNDING. AND PROVIDING RESOURCES TO THE LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL...
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| 02:14:30 |
McCaul, Michael - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
LINE WITH THE PHYSICAL BARRICADES, THE FENCING. YOU HAVE THE EPICS CENTER THERE. THE MILITARY BASE. IT'S A FORTRESS. AND SO WITH THAT, TO DR. VICKERS,...
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Vickers, Michael - Director
OF THIS YEAR, THE BORDER PATROL IN JIM HOGG COUNTY APPREHENDED 11 INTRUDERS AT MY RANCH WITH MARIJUANA. DOWN IN MARCH, MY PARTNER HEARD MACHINE GUN...
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JUST WANTED TO LET CONGRESSMAN CUELLAR KNOW THAT ALL OF THESE ARE IN HIS DISTRICT. AND MOST OF THE RANCHERS IN THAT AREA, MOST OF THE RANCHERS, AND...
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| 02:15:55 |
McCaul, Michael - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
SAY THAT THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. AND WHILE WE MAY DISAGREE ON SOME FINER POINTS, I BELIEVE THAT BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE AGREE WITH THE OVERALL...
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| 02:16:22 |
Reyes, Silvestre - U.S. Representative, [D] Texas
FROM THE EL PASO INTELLIGENCE CENTER. >> AND WE HAVE DONE THAT. >> AND THE FBI INTEL THAT CAN SUPPLEMENT A LOT OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED HERE TODAY. >> IT'S...
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McCaul, Michael - U.S. Representative, [R] Texas
THIS HEARING IS
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.