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OF MARY SURRATT, THE APRIL 1865 PLOTS TO ASSASSINATE PRESIDENT LINCOLN, VICE PRESIDENT JOHNSON AND SECRETARY OF STATE SEWARD WERE PLANNED IN PART AT...
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ISN'T IN SESSION YET, BUT IT WILL BE SOON. GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THIS VERY, VERY EXCITING EVENT. THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE TO THANK FOR THEIR VALUABLE...
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THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE A WARM ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO JUSTICE ANN BURKEE AND EILEEN MACK VIC WHO CONCEIVED THIS IDEA. THE RETRIAL...
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TO INTRODUCE THE DIRECTOR AND PART OWNER OF THE CHICAGO CUBS MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL CLUB WHO IS ALSO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FOR CHICAGO CUBS CHARITIES,...
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BURKEE AND THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE EXTRAORDINARY PRO SEATINGS THIS EVENING. THIS RETRIAL OF MARY SURRATT WAS INSPIRED BY THE...
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OF INTRODUCING TO YOU THE CHIEF JUDGE OF THE EASTERN DIVISION UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT, NORTHERN DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS WHO WAS MY TRIAL ADVOCACY...
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YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SHE EARNED THAT BEST GRADE IN THAT CLASS, I WANT YOU TO KNOW, AS YOU CAN TELL. THE STORY OF MARY SURRATT, OF COURSE, SPANS...
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OUTSIDE THE COURTHOUSE, IT IS MY PLEASURE NOW TO INTRODUCE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS AN ATTORNEY, A JOURNALIST, AUTHOR, RANCHER AND ENTREPRENEUR. YOU HAVE...
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THANK YOU DLCHLT BURKE. WE'RE LIVE INSIDE THE COURTROOM ON THIS DAY, SEPTEMBER 23rd, 2011. THE TRIAL OF THE LINCOLN CONSPIRATORS IS NOW OVER. JOHN...
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RISE! HERE YE HERE YE, THIS DISTRICT COURT IS NOW IN SESSION. GOD SAVE THE UNITED STATES AND THIS HONORABLE COURT. YOU MAY BE SEATED. >> THANK YOU,...
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HONOR. THE DEFENSE CALLS MARY SURRATT. >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT
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HAND. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP
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YOU GOD? >> I DO. >> YOU MAY BE
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SEATED. >> WHAT IS
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YOUR NAME? >>
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MARY ELIZABETH SURRATT. >>
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HOW OLD ARE YOU? >> I'M 42 YEARS
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OLD. >> AND WHAT IS
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YOUR EDUCATION BRIEFLY? >> WELL, I
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WAS EDUCATED BY THE SISTERS OF CHARITY IN ALEXANDRIA, VIRGINIA. ALTHOUGH I WAS BORN INTO AN EPISCOPALIAN FAMILY AT THE AGE OF 12 I CONVERTED TO CATHOLICISM...
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OF YOUR ARREST, WHERE DID YOU RESIDE? >>
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IN WASHINGTON, D.C. >>
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PRIOR TO RESIDING IN WASHINGTON, WHERE DID YOU LIVE? >> I LIVE
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IN SUR RATSVILLE, MARYLAND. >> ARE YOU CURRENTLY
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MARRIED? >>
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NO, MA'AM. MY HUSBAND DIED IN 1862. >> HOW DID HE
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DIE? >> HE DIED OF COMPLICATIONS
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DUE TO ALCOHOLISM. >> AFTER YOUR
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HUSBAND DIED, HOW DID YOU SUPPORT YOURSELF? >> WELL, BECAUSE OF
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| 00:16:53 |
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HIS ALCOHOLISM, MY HUSBAND SQUANDERED ALL OUR ASSETS AND LEFT UFS DEEPLY IN DEBT. SO I THOUGHT I COULD MAKE ENDS MEET IF I RENTED THE TAVERN TO MR....
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ON H STREET WHERE YOU RESIDED WHEN YOU WERE ARRESTED? >> YES,
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541 H STREET. >>
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DO YOU HAVE CHISH? >>
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YES, I DO. >> WHAT ARE THEIR
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NAMES AND THEIR AGES? >> ISAAC IS 24 YEARS
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OLD. ELIZABETH SUZANNA, I CALL HER ANNA, SHE'S 22 AND JOHN, JUNIOR IS 21 YEARS OLD. >> REFERRING TO THE
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MONTHS, THE BEGINNING MONTHS OF 1865, WERE ANY OF YOUR CHILDREN LIVING WITH YOU AT THE TIME? >>
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YES, MA'AM. ANNA WAS LIVING WITH ME. JONL, JUNIOR, CAME AND WENT. >> JOHN JUNIOR,
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WHAT WAS HIS OCCUPATION OR PROFESSION? >> HE WAS IN COTTON
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SPECULATION. >>
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NOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OR REASON TO BELIEVE THAT YOUR SON, JOHN, JUNIOR, WAS IN ANY WAY INVOLVED IN A PLOT TO ASSASSINATE ABRAHAM
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LINCOLN? >> NO, MA'AM. >> NOW, AT SOME POINT
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DID YOU BECOME ACQUAINTED WITH A MAN NAMED JOHN WILKES BOOTH? >> YES,
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MA'AM, I DID. >> AND WHEN DID YOU FIRST
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MEET JOHN WILKES
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BOOTH? >> IT WAS ABOUT THREE MONTHS BEFORE THE ASSASSINATION. >> HOW DID YOU COME
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TO MEET HIM? >> HE
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CAME TO MY BOARDING HOUSE TO VISIT MY SON. >> APPROXIMATELY
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HOW OFTEN DID HE COME TO THE BOARDING HOUSE TO MEET WITH YOUR SON? >>
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I DON'T KNOW. MANY TIMES. >> WAS HE EVER
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A BORDER THERE? >> NO, HE ONLY CAME
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TO VISIT. >> WERE YOU EVER PRIVY TO
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ANY CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN JOHN BOOTH AND YOUR SON? >> NO, MA'AM,
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I WAS NOT. >> AND WERE YOU
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EVER PRIVY TO ANY CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN JOHN BOOTH AND ANY OF THE OTHER
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BORDERS? >> NO. >> NOW, PUTTING ASIDE WHAT
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| 00:18:44 |
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YOU NOW KNOW ABOUT JOHN BOOTH, WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS MAN DURING THE TIME HE WAS VISITING YOUR BOARDING HOUSE? >> WELL, I KNEW...
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| 00:18:53 |
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VERY FAMOUS ACTOR. HE WAS QUITE DASHING, VERY HANDSOME, GENTLEMANLY. I THINK WE WERE ALL A BIT TAKEN WITH HIM DUE TO HIS FAME AND GOOD LOOKS AND TALENT....
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| 00:19:05 |
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HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM? >> YES, MA'AM,
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I DID. >> AND HOW OFTEN DID YOU
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HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM? >> I DON'T
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KNOW. OFTEN. >> I'M
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| 00:19:14 |
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GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN MARKED AS PROSECUTION EXHIBIT NO. 45. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO IDENTIFY IT. >> THAT'S A PHOTOGRAPH
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OF JOHN WILKES BOOTH. >> AND WAS
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THIS THE PHOTOGRAPH THAT WAS TAKEN FROM YOUR BOARDING HOUSE ON OUR ABOUT THE DAY OF YOUR
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| 00:19:34 |
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ARREST? >> YES, MA'AM. >> WILL YOU TELL THE
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JURY TO WHOM THIS PHOTOGRAPH BELONGS? >> IT BELONGS TO
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MY DAUGHTER ANNA. >>
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| 00:19:41 |
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ARE YOU TELLING THIS JURY THAT YOUR DAUGHTER ANNA HAD A PHOTOGRAPH OF JOHN BOOTH IN YOUR HOME ON H STREET? >> YES, AS
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| 00:19:49 |
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DID MANY PEOPLE WHO WERE TAKEN WITH HIM AND FOLLOWED HIS CAREER. SHE ALSO HAD PHOTOGRAPHS OF UNION GENERALS. >> NOW,
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| 00:19:58 |
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MS. SURRATT, DID YOU HAVE OCCASION TO SPEAK WITH MR. BOOTH IN PRIVATE? >>
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| 00:20:02 |
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YES, I DID. >> DID YOU HEAR YOUR
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| 00:20:05 |
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FORMER BORDER LOUIS WEEK MAN TESTIFY EARLIER AT TRIAL THAT YOU AND BOOTH SPOKE FREQUENTLY IN PRIVATE? >> YES,
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| 00:20:12 |
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I HEARD THAT TESTIMONY. >> IS
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| 00:20:13 |
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THAT TRUE? >>
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| 00:20:14 |
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YES, IT IS TRUE. >> PLEASE TELL THE JURY
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THE NATURE AND THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE CONVERSATIONS YOU HAD WITH JOHN BOOTH? >> I DON'T
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RECALL SPECIFICALLY ANY OF THE CONVERSATIONS. IT WAS SMALL TALK MOSTLY. >> DID YOU EVER TALK TO
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| 00:20:26 |
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HIM ABOUT HIS CONFEDERATE SYMPATHIES? >>
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| 00:20:29 |
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NO. >> DID HE EVER TELL
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| 00:20:31 |
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YOU HIS POLITICAL
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| 00:20:32 |
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VIEWS? >> NO. HE NEVER DISCUSSED POLITICS AT ALL. >> DID HE EVER TELL YOU
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| 00:20:36 |
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HE HAD ANIMOSITY FOR ABRAHAM LINCOLN? >>
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| 00:20:39 |
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NO, MA'AM. I DID NOT SUPPOSE THAT HE HAD THE DEVIL HE MOST CERTAINLY POSSESSED IN HIS HEART. >> NOW, MS.
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| 00:20:48 |
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SURRATT, I'M GOING TO FOCUS YOU ON THE BOARDING HOUSE ON H STREET. APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY MEN COULD BOARD AT THAT HOUSE AT ANY GIVEN TIME? >> ABOUT TEN
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| 00:20:57 |
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PEOPLE COULD BOARD THERE. >> FROM, SAY, JANUARY OF 1865
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| 00:21:01 |
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TO APRIL 14th OF 1865, APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY MEN BOARDED AT THAT HOUSE? >> I COULDN'T
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| 00:21:08 |
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SAY. DOZENS. >> I'M
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| 00:21:12 |
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GOING TO REFER YOU TO THREE MEN IN PARTICULAR, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU IF THEY WERE, IN FACT, BOARDERS AT THE H STREET BOARDING HOUSE SOME TIME IN 1865....
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MA'AM. >> LEWIS
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WEEK MAN. >> YES, MA'AM. >> AND LOUIS
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| 00:21:29 |
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POWELL. >> YES. >> WERE YOU EVER PRIVY
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| 00:21:31 |
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TO ANY CONVERSATIONS THOSE MEN HAD BETWEEN AND AMONGST THEMSELVES? >>
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| 00:21:37 |
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NO. >> DID YOU EVER HEAR
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| 00:21:38 |
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ANY OF THEM EXPRESS CONFEDERATE SYMPATHIES? >>
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| 00:21:40 |
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NO. >> DID
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| 00:21:43 |
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YOU EVER HEAR THEM TALK ABOUT THEIR HATE RED FOR ABRAHAM LINCOLN? >> NO,
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| 00:21:48 |
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MA'AM. >> DID THEY EVER TRY TO
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| 00:21:50 |
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ENLIST YOU IN A PLOT OR CONSPIRACY TO ASSASSINATE ABRAHAM
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| 00:21:54 |
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LINCOLN? >> NEVER. >> HAD YOU KNOWN THEY
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| 00:21:56 |
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WERE PLANNING TO PLOT OR ASSASSINATE OR 16th PRESIDENT, WHAT WOULD YOU >>
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| 00:22:01 |
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I WOULD HAVE TOLD THE AUTHORITIES. I WOULD HAVE -- I WOULD HAVE KICKED THEM OUT OF THE BOARDINGHOUSE BOARDINGHOUSE. >>
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| 00:22:10 |
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NOW, APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY CONSPIRATORS ARE BEING CHARGED HERE? HERE? DO YOU KNOW, MISS SURRATT? >>
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| 00:22:17 |
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YES. THERE ARE EIGHT. >>
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| 00:22:18 |
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I'M GOING TO NAME FOUR OF THEM AND ASK YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY RECOLLECTION OF EVER HAVING MET THEM. MUDD? >>
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| 00:22:23 |
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NO. >>
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| 00:22:24 |
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ARNOLD? >>
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| 00:22:25 |
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SPANGLER? >>
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| 00:22:26 |
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NO. >>
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| 00:22:29 |
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LAUGHLIN. >>
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| 00:22:35 |
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NO. >> NOW, I WANT TO ASK
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| 00:22:37 |
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YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY VIEWS ON THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL? >>
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| 00:22:40 |
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OH, YES, MA'AM. >> WOULD YOU
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| 00:22:41 |
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TELL THE JURY WHAT YOUR VIEWS ARE ON THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL. >> WELL, AS I
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| 00:22:46 |
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MENTIONED, MY HUSBAND WAS AN ALCOHOLIC AND HIS ALCOHOLISM LEFT US IN RUINS. MY RELIGIOUS AND MORAL UPBRINGING AS WELL AS MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE...
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| 00:22:56 |
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AN OCCASION WITH A PARTICULAR BORDER CONCERNING THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL AT THE H STREET BOARDINGHOUSE? >>
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| 00:23:02 |
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YES, I DID. >> WILL YOU
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| 00:23:03 |
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TELL THE JURY WHO THAT BORDER WAS? >> IT WAS GEORGE
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| 00:23:08 |
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ATHRIGHT. >> AND
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| 00:23:09 |
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WHAT, IF ANYTHING, HAPPENED WITH GEORGE CONCERNING THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL? >> WELL, I FOUND
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| 00:23:13 |
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ALCOHOL IN HIS ROOM AND I EVICTED HIM FROM THE BOARDINGHOUSE. >>
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| 00:23:17 |
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WAS HE EVER ALLOWED BACK IN THE BOARDINGHOUSE? >> YES, HE WAS, BUT NOT AS
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| 00:23:21 |
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A
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| 00:23:22 |
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BOARDER. >> AS A VISITOR. >> AS A
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| 00:23:25 |
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VISITOR. >>
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| 00:23:26 |
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OKAY. NOW, MISS SURRATT, I WANT TO TURN YOUR ATTENTION TO APRIL 11th, 1865, AND I'M GOING TO SUGGEST TO YOU THAT IT IS THE TUESDAY PRECEDING THE ASSASSINATION...
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| 00:23:39 |
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DATE? >> YES, MA'AM. >> WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DO
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YOU RECALL ABOUT THAT DATE? >> WELL, I WENT TO
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SURRATSVILLE ON THAT DATE. >> AND WHY WOULD YOU GO
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| 00:23:49 |
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THERE? >> I STILL HAD LOTS OF
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| 00:23:52 |
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BUSINESS THERE. I WENT FREQUENTLY. >> ON THIS PARTICULAR DAY,
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| 00:23:55 |
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THIS PARTICULAR TIME, WHY DID YOU GO TO SURRATSVILLE? >> ON APRIL 11th,WY ENT THERE
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| 00:24:02 |
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TO TRY TO COLLECT ON A DATE OWED TO ME TO THE SUM OF $479 PLUS INTEREST. >> AND WHY
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| 00:24:08 |
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WERE YOU GOING TO COLLECT THAT DEBT ON THAT DAY? >> I WAS RECEIVING
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| 00:24:11 |
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PRESSURE FROM A CREDITOR OF MINE, MR. GEORGE CALVERT, TO COLLECT ON THAT DEBT. >> NOW, DID
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| 00:24:16 |
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YOU GO TO SURRATSVILLE ALONE? >> NO,
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| 00:24:19 |
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MA'AM. MY BORDER, MR. WEIZMAN, WAS WITH ME. >> AND WHY
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| 00:24:23 |
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DID YOU CHOOSE MR. WHITEMAN TO ACCOMPANY YOU? >> WELL, YOU SEE, IT'S ABOUT
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| 00:24:29 |
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A TWO-HOUR DRIVE BY BUGGY FROM WASHINGTON, D.C., TO SURRATSVILLE. ON COUNTRY ROADS THAT ARE OFTEN DESERTED, AND AS A WOMAN ALONE I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE...
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| 00:24:59 |
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WENT TO SURRATSVILLE AND YOU ARRIVED. WHEN YOU ARRIVED THERE, WHAT DID YOU DO? >> I HAD DINNER AND
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| 00:25:04 |
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I SPOKE WITH MR. KNOTTIE, BUT HE DID NOT PAY THE DEBT AT THAT TIME. >> DID YOU
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| 00:25:09 |
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TRANSABOUT ANY OTHER BUSINESS IN SURRATSVILLE
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| 00:25:11 |
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ON THAT DAY? >> NO. >> AND THEN DID YOU RETURN
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| 00:25:13 |
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TO WASHINGTON? >>
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| 00:25:14 |
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YES, MA'AM, I DID. >> NOW
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| 00:25:15 |
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I WANT TO TURN YOUR ATTENTION THREE DAYS LATER TO APRIL 14th, 1865, WHICH IS THE DATE THAT ABRAHAM LINCOLN WAS ASSASSINATED. DO YOU RECALL THAT DATE?...
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| 00:25:24 |
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MA'AM. >> AND WHAT DID YOU DO ON
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| 00:25:26 |
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THAT DATE? >> WELL, I FOUND I WAS
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| 00:25:29 |
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COMPELLED TO ONCE AGAIN TRAVEL TO SURRATSVILLE TO AGAIN ATTEMPT THE DEBT FROM MR. KNOTTIE, WHICH I DESPERATELY NEEDED. >> HOW, WHY DID YOU
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| 00:25:38 |
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GO THERE JUST THREE DAYS AFTER YOU ATTEMPTED TO COLLECT THAT DEBT THE FIRST TIME? >> I HAD
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| 00:25:43 |
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RECENTLY RECEIVED A LETTER FROM MR. CALVERT, MY CREDITOR, INDICATING THAT HE HAD SPOKEN TO MR. KNOTTIE AND THAT MR. KNOTTIE WAS READY TO SETTLE THE DEBT....
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| 00:25:53 |
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YOU RECEIVED, DO YOU RECALL ON OR ABOUT THE DATE THAT YOU RECEIVED THE LETTER? >> IT WAS ABOUT APRIL
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| 00:26:04 |
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12th. >> I'M SHOWING
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| 00:26:05 |
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YOU WHAT I'VE MARKED AS DEFENSE NUMBER 10. WILL YOU IDENTIFY THAT DOCUMENT? >> THIS IS THE LETTER I
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| 00:26:11 |
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RECEIVED FROM MR. GEORGE CALVERT. >> AND WAS
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| 00:26:13 |
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THAT DOCUMENT THE REASON FOR YOU TO GO TO SURRATSVILLE ON APRIL 14th, 1865? >>
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| 00:26:19 |
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ABSOLUTELY. >> NOW, DID YOU
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| 00:26:20 |
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GO ALONE TO SURRATSVILLE ON THAT DATE? >>
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| 00:26:22 |
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NO. ONCE AGAIN, MR. WHITEMAN ACCOMPANIED ME. >> AND
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| 00:26:27 |
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WHEN YOU LEFT FOR SURRATSVILLE -- BEFORE YOU LEFT, DID ANYBODY GIVE YOU A PACKAGE? >> NO,
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| 00:26:32 |
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MA'AM. >> DID JOHN
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| 00:26:33 |
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BOOTH GIVE YOU A PACKAGE? >>
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| 00:26:35 |
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NO. >> AND
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| 00:26:36 |
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WHEN YOU GOT TO SURRATSVILLE, DID YOU GIVE YOUR TENANT, MR. LLOYD, A PACKAGE? >>
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| 00:26:41 |
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NO. I HAD NO PACKAGE TO GIVE MR. LLOYD. >> NOW, YOU
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| 00:26:46 |
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HEARD MR. LLOYD TESTIFY HERE AT TRIAL THAT HE GAVE YOU A PACKAGE ON APRIL 14th, 1865. DID YOU RECALL THAT TESTIMONY? >> I RECALL THAT
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| 00:26:55 |
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TESTIMONY. >> WHY WOULD
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| 00:26:56 |
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HE TESTIFY ABOUT THAT? >>
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| 00:26:58 |
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WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHY HE WOULD TESTIFY ABOUT THAT EXCEPT THAT DAY I RECALL THAT HE WAS VERY INTOXICATED AND HE MAY NOT RECALL ACCURATELY WHAT HAPPENED....
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| 00:27:11 |
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A MAN SBOX KATE ED
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| 00:27:13 |
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INTOXICATED? >> OH, YES. >> AND TELL THE JURY WHAT A
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| 00:27:15 |
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MAN WHO'S INTOXICATED LOOKS LIKE. >> WELL, HIS
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| 00:27:18 |
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VISION SEEMS BLURRY. HE HAD TROUBLE STANDING UPRIGHT. HE KIND OF SWAYED WHEN HE WALKED, HIS SPEECH WAS A LITTLE SLURRED. >> NOW, DID YOU
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| 00:27:31 |
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COLLECT THE DEBT THAT DAY? >> NO, DID
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| 00:27:35 |
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NOT. >>
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| 00:27:37 |
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OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU A QUESTION. DO YOU HAVE -- DO YOU RECALL APRIL 17th,
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| 00:27:46 |
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1865? >> YES. >> AND WAS
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| 00:27:47 |
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THAT THE DATE THAT YOU WERE ARRESTED? >> YES,
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| 00:27:50 |
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MA'AM. >> AND DO YOU
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| 00:27:51 |
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RECALL THE MILITARY POLICE COMING INTO YOUR HOME ON H STREET AND INTERROGATING YOU? >> YES, I
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| 00:27:57 |
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DO. >> AND DO YOU RECALL THE MILITARY POLICE BRINGING A MAN IN FOR YOU TO IDENTIFY? >> YES, I DO. >> AND DID YOU IDENTIFY THAT MAN ON THAT DATE? >> NO,...
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| 00:28:04 |
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OKAY. NOW, APPROXIMATELY HOW FAR AWAY WERE YOU SITTING WHEN HE WALKED INTO THE ROOM? >> APPROXIMATELY THREE
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TO FIVE FEET. APPROXIMATELY THE DISTANCE BETWEEN YOU AND ME RIGHT NOW. >> BETWEEN WHERE
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I'M STANDING AND WHERE YOU'RE SITTING? >> YES,
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MA'AM. >> NOW, YOU TALKED ABOUT
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YOUR POOR EYESIGHT. TELL THE JURY HOW POOR YOUR EYESIGHT IS. >>
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WELL, MISS CONTI, FROM WHERE I'M SEATED I CAN'T MAKE OUT YOUR FEATURES. >>
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OKAY. NOW, MR. ROD, TELL THE JURY WHAT YOUR POLITICAL VIEWS ARE. >> I DON'T PRETEND TO EXPRESS
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MY FEELINGS AT ALL. I HAVE OFTEN SAID THAT I FELT THE SOUTH ACTED TOO HISASTILY. THAT IS ABOUT THE EXTENT OF MY FEELINGS AND I SAY SO AGAIN. >> MISS...
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DID YOU EVER HAVE ANY ANIMOSITY OR HATRED TOWARD ABRAHAM LINCOLN? >> IN THE WORDS OF THE
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GREAT EMANCIPATOR HIMSELF, I HAD MALICE TOWARD NONE. >> AND MARY
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ELIZABETH SURRATT, DID YOU HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OR TAKE ANY PART IN A CONSPIRACY TO ASSASSINATE ABRAHAM LINCOLN? >> NO, I DID
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NOT. >> JUDGE, I
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HAVE NOTHING FURTHER. >> YOU MAY
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INQUIRE. >> THANK YOU, YOUR
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HONOR. MISS SURRATT, MY NAME IS DAN WEBB. I THINK, AS YOU KNOW FROM OUR PROCEEDINGS, THAT I AM ONE OF THE LAWYERS THAT'S REPRESENTING THE PROSECUTION...
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YES, SIR. >> AND IN LIGHT OF SOME OF
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THE QUESTIONS THAT MISS CONTI JUST ASKED YOU THAT PROBABLY DOESN'T SURPRISE YOU THAT I HAVE A KWU FES TO ASK YOU. AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON AS...
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THAT IS CORRECT. >> LET'S START WITH
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THE MASTERMIND OF THE CONSPIRACY TO ASSASSINATE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, JOHN WILKES BOOTH WHO, ON APRIL, A14th, ASSASSINATE ASSASSINATED ABRAHAM LINCOLN....
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SAY? >> THAT'S FAIR TO SAY. >>
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IN FACT, STARTING ABOUT THREE MONTHS BEFORE THE ASSASSINATION, HE BECAME A FREQUENT VISITOR TO YOUR BOARDINGHOUSE.
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IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND HE FREQUENTLY HAD
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PRIVATE MEETINGS WITH YOUR SON. IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES,
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SIR. >> AND WE KNOW
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THAT HE ALSO, AS YOU TOLD MISS CONTI, HE FREQUENTLY HAD PRIVATE MEETINGS WITH YOU.
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IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >> AND THESE
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MEETINGS CONTINUED RIGHT UP TO THE DAY OF THE ASSASSINATION OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN. IS THAT CORRECT? >>
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YES, SIR. >> AND IT'S YOUR TESTIMONY
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THAT IN NONE OF THESE MEETINGS YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RECOLLECTION OF A SINGLE WORD THAT BOOTH EVER SAID. THAT'S WHAT YOU TOLD MISS CONTI. >>
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THAT'S CORRECT. >> SO AS
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YOU SIT HERE NOW UNDER OATH BEFORE THIS JURY, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RECOLLECTION OF ANY CONVERSATION YOU EVER HAD WITH BOOTH OTHER THAN GENERALLY REMEMBERING...
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| 00:33:02 |
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THAT IS CORRECT. >> I MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE, 12
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DAYS BEFORE THE ASSASSINATION OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN, JUST 12 DAYS BEFORE, YOU COMMISSIONED SOMEONE TO BRING BOOTH TO YOUR BOARDINGHOUSE SO YOU COULD...
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SIR. >> YOU SENT MR. LOUIS
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WHITEMAN TO GO FETCH MR. BOOTH. IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES,
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I DID. >> AND HE
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DID. MR. WHITEMAN WENT AND BROUGHT THIS FAMOUS ACTOR TO YOUR BOARDINGHOUSE, AND YOU PROCEEDED TO HAVE A PRIVATE MEETING WITH HIM. IS THAT
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| 00:33:34 |
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CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >> AND JUST THE TWO OF YOU HAD
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A DISCUSSION. IS THAT
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CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >> AND
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| 00:33:39 |
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THE DISCUSSION WENT ON FOR SEVERAL MINUTES. IS THAT CORRECT? >>
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| 00:33:42 |
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YES. >> AND IT'S YOUR TESTIMONY
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TODAY THAT THAT CONVERSATION WHERE YOU TOOK THE TROUBLE TO BRING THIS FAMOUS ACTOR TO YOUR HOUSE FOR A PRIVATE DISCUSSION, YOU HAVE NO RECOLLECTION...
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IS MY TESTIMONY. >> IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >> NOT A SINGLE WORD. >> YES, SIR. >> IS THAT RIGHT? NOW, WE ALSO KNOW THAT ON APRIL 11th, THREE DAYS...
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WHO YOU CHOSE TO CONTACT. >> I CHOSE TO CONTACT MR.
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BOOTH. >> JOHN WILKES BOOTH, THE
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MAN WHO -- THE MAN WHO THREE DAYS LATER KILLED PRESIDENT LINCOLN. YOU CHOSE TO REACH OUT TO HIM TO GET A BUGGY. IS THAT CORRECT? >>
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YES, SIR. >> AND YOU
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SENT MR. LOUIS WHITEMAN TO GO FETCH THE BUGGY, AND JOHN WILKES BOOTH DIDN'T HAPPEN TO HAVE A BUGGY AVAILABLE TO SO HE PAID $10 SO YOU COULD GO TO SURRATSVILLE....
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ISN'T IT? >> YES, SIR. ? AND SO THIS MAN, JOHN WILKES BOOTH DECIDED THAT OF ALL THE THINGS HE HAS TO DO IN HIS LIFE, HE DECIDED TO FORK OUT $10 SO THAT...
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TESTIMONY. >> HE'S A VERY GENEROUS
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MAN, ISN'T HE? >>
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OBJECTION.
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ARGUMENTATIVE. >> SUSTAINED. >>
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WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS -- WELL, AS YOU SIT HERE NOW, HIS DECISION TO SPEND $10 SO YOU COULD GO TO SURRATSVILLE, A PLACE THAT TURNED OUT TO BE A...
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DON'T KNOW WHY MR. BOOTH CHOSE TO HELP ME. >>
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| 00:36:07 |
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YOU DON'T KNOW. >> YOU'LL HAVE TO ASK
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HIM. >> IT WASN'T BECAUSE YOU
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WERE PART OF THE CONSPIRACY,
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WAS IT? >> NO, SIR. >> WE ALSO KNOW THAT ON
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APRIL 14th, 1865, THE DAY THAT LINCOLN WAS ASSASSINATED, SEVEN OR EIGHT HOURS BEFORE THE ASSASSINATION, OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD YOU CHOSE TO...
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| 00:36:31 |
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MY BOARDINGHOUSE. >> AND HE CAME THERE AND
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| 00:36:33 |
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YOU HAD A PRIVATE MEETING
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WITH HIM. >> YES, SIR. >> IS
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| 00:36:35 |
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THAT CORRECT? >> YES,
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SIR. >> AND YOU SPENT SEVERAL
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MINUTES DISCUSSING SOMETHING WITH HIM ON THE DAY THAT LINCOLN CUSS ASSASSINATED. IS THAT CORRECT? >> HE WAS THERE
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FOR A FEW MINUTES, YES. >>
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PARDON ME? >> HE WAS THERE FOR
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A FEW MINUTES. >> FOR A FEW MINUTES AND
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HAD A PRIVATE DISCUSSION WITH YOU. IS THAT
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CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >> AND IS IT YOUR
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TESTIMONY UNDER OATH TO OUR JURY THAT ON THE DAY THAT LINCOLN WAS ASSASSINATED ASSASSINATED, ONE OF THE GREAT DAYS IN AMERICAN HISTORY, YOU HAVE NO...
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| 00:37:06 |
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TESTIMONY. >> THAT IS YOUR TESTIMONY. NOT A CLUE AS TO WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT DAY. >> I DON'T
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RECALL. >> YOU CAN'T
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REMEMBER A WORD THAT WAS SAID IN THAT PRIVATE CONVERSATION. >> OBJECTION,
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JUDGE. ARGUMENTATIVE. HE'S BADGERING THE WITNESS. >> YOU CAN
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ANSWER. >> YOU DON'T REMEMBER
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A WORD, DO YOU? >>
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I DON'T RECALL. >> BY THE WAY, YOUR SON AND
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| 00:37:24 |
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JOHN WILKES BOOTH WERE CLOSE FRIENDS. IS THAT CORRECT? >>
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| 00:37:26 |
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YES, SIR. >> AND WE'LL COME
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| 00:37:27 |
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BACK TO YOUR SON IN A MINUTE. BUT THEY FREQUENTLY HAD MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS DURING THIS TIME PERIOD. >>
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YES. >> BEYOND
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JOHN WILKES BOOTH, AS FAR AS YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE PEOPLE THAT EVENTUALLY PARTICIPATED IN THIS CONSPIRACY TO ASSASSINATE HIGH GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS,...
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| 00:37:54 |
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CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >> AND YOU'RE AWARE
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NOW, AT LEAST YOU'VE HEARD TESTIMONY IN OUR COURTROOM, THAT MR. MR. AZZERNAUGHT JOINED THE CONSPIRACY AND HE WAS THE PERSON THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO ASSASSINATE...
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STHA CORRECT? >> I'M
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AWARE OF THAT NOW. >> YOU DON'T
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DOUBT THAT NOW THAT YOU'VE HEARD THIS TESTIMONY, DO YOU? >> I
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DON'T. >> NOW, IT HAPPENS
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TO BE THAT YOU HAD CONTACT WITH HIM ALSO, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S
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CORRECT. >> BECAUSE HE ALSO
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BECAME A BOARDER AND STAYED AT YOUR BOARDINGHOUSE IN D.C. >> YES,
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| 00:38:28 |
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SIR. >> IN THE SHORT TIME
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| 00:38:29 |
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BEFORE THE ASSASSINATION. IS THAT
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| 00:38:31 |
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CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>
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| 00:38:32 |
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NOW, YOU'VE HEARD TESTIMONY IN THIS CASE THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, MR. AZERNAUT WAS HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH YOUR SON JOHN AND OTHERS IN STORING WEAPONS AT YOUR...
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| 00:38:51 |
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HEARD THAT TESTIMONY. >> AND MR. AZERNAUT, WHEN
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| 00:38:54 |
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HE STAYED AT YOUR HOUSE, YOUR BOARDINGHOUSE, YOU SOMETIMES HAD CONVERSATION WITH HIM. IS THAT CORRECT? >> I NEVER HAD A
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| 00:39:01 |
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CONVERSATION WITH MR. AZERNAUT EXCEPT WHEN I WAS EVICTING HIM. >> AND -- BUT
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YOU DO KNOW MR. AZERNAUT. >> YES,
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| 00:39:07 |
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SIR. >> AND HOW LONG DID HE LIVE
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| 00:39:08 |
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AT YOUR BOARDINGHOUSE? >> HE WAS THERE
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| 00:39:10 |
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FOR A FEW DAYS UNTIL I FOUND ALCOHOL IN HIS ROOM. >> AND THEN
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| 00:39:14 |
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YOU SAID YOU KICKED HIM OUT. IS THAT CORRECT? >>
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| 00:39:16 |
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THAT'S CORRECT. >> NOW, JUST
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| 00:39:17 |
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SO THE JURY UNDERSTANDS, IS IT YOUR TESTIMONY THAT IT'S JUST PURE COINCIDENCE THAT TWO OF THE PRIME MOVERS IN THE ASSASSINATION OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN ARE...
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WAS COINCIDENCE. >> WELL, WHAT IS IT,
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THEN? >> I DON'T
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KNOW. YOU'D HAVE TO ASK THEM. >> WELL, IT DOESN'T STOP
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WITH THOSE TWO, DOES IT, AS FAR AS THE COINCIDENCES. >> OBJECTION, YOUR
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| 00:39:51 |
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HONOR. ARGUMENTATIVE ARGUMENTATIVE. >>
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I'LL SUSTAIN IT. >> LOUIS
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| 00:39:55 |
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POWELL IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE DEFENDANTS. IS THAT CORRECT? >>
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| 00:39:57 |
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YES, SIR. >> AND MR. POWELL, HE --
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| 00:39:59 |
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HIS JOB WAS TO ASSASSINATE SECRETARY OF STATE SEWARD ON THE NIGHT OF APRIL 14th, 1865. IS THAT CORRECT? >>
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| 00:40:06 |
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THAT'S WHAT I'VE COME TO UNDERSTAND. >> AND
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| 00:40:09 |
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YOU'VE HEARD TESTIMONY ABOUT
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| 00:40:10 |
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THAT. >> YES, SIR. >> AND WE KNOW
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| 00:40:11 |
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THAT FROM THE IN EVIDENCE THIS CASE HE ALSO BY COINCIDENCE BECAME A BOARDER AT YOUR BOARDINGHOUSE. IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, HE WAS A BOARDER,
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| 00:40:21 |
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BUT I KNEW HIM AS MR. WOOD. >> HE USED AN ALIAS AT
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| 00:40:24 |
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YOUR PLACE. IS THAT CORRECT? >>
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| 00:40:26 |
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YES. >> AND HE STAYED AT YOUR
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| 00:40:28 |
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HOUSE, AT YOUR BOARDINGHOUSE, I BELIEVE SHORTLY BEFORE THE ASSASSINATION ON -- WAS IT FOUR DIFFERENT NIGHTS? >> YES, SIR, I BELIEVE
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| 00:40:37 |
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SO. >>
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| 00:40:39 |
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OKAY. AND WHEN HE -- YOU -- YOU WERE FASCINATED BY -- BY MR. POWELL BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY MADE COMMENTS TO PEOPLE THAT YOU THOUGHT HE WAS A GREAT-LOOKING...
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| 00:40:56 |
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THAT. I DON'T SPECIFICALLY RECALL. >> APPARENTLY
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| 00:40:59 |
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YOUR EYESIGHT WAS SUCH THAT WHEN YOU SAW HIM YOU DIDN'T HAVE TROUBLE RECOGNIZING THAT HE WAS A GREAT-LOOKING -- >> OBJECTION, YOUR
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| 00:41:06 |
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HONOR. >> -- AS OPPOSED
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TO AN AVERAGE-LOOKING BAPTIST PREACHER. IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? >> JUDGE,
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| 00:41:11 |
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ARGUMENTATIVE. >> I THINK THE DEFENSE
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OPENED THE DOOR THAT THE RELIGION ISSUE. YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION. >> COULD YOU REPEAT
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| 00:41:22 |
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THE QUESTION, PLEASE? >> YOU APPARENTLY COULD
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SEE HIM WELL ENOUGH WITH ALL THE EYESIGHT PROBLEMS YOU HAVE TO MAKE OUT HIS FEATURES IN A WAY THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT HE WAS A GREAT-LOOKING...
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| 00:41:38 |
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BROAD DAYLIGHT THEN. AND I WAS ABLE TO SEE HIM MORE CLEARLY. >> MISS CONTI WAS STANDING
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| 00:41:43 |
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RIGHT HERE AND YOU SAID YOU COULD NOT MAKE OUT HER FEATURES. YOU COULD NOT MAKE OUT HER FEATURES STANDING HERE BUT YOU COULD RECOGNIZE -- YOU COULD...
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| 00:41:57 |
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HE WAS STANDING CLOSER TO ME. >> WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW CLOSE HE WAS BECAUSE WE JUST FOUND OUT THAT ON THREE DAYS AFTER THE ASSASSINATION OF ABRAHAM...
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A COINCIDENCE THAT NOW WE HAVE THREE OF THE CO-CONSPIRATORS, ALL OF WHOM HAVE CONTACT WITH YOU AT THE BOARDINGHOUSE? THAT'S JUST A
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| 00:43:01 |
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COINCIDENCE? >> I GUESS SO. >> WELL, LET'S TALK
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| 00:43:03 |
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ABOUT ONE MORE QUICKLY. WE HAVE JOHN LLOYD, WHO TESTIFIED IN THIS TRIAL THAT HE'S THE PERSON WHO ON THE NIGHT OF THE ASSASSINATION HE WAS RUNNING YOUR...
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| 00:43:29 |
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I'VE HEARD THAT TESTIMONY. >> AND WE KNOW THAT MR.
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| 00:43:32 |
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LLOYD HAS TESTIFIED ABOUT INCRIMINATING CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU WHERE YOU ADVISED LLOYD ON APRIL 11th AND APRIL 14th THAT SOMEBODY WOULD BE COMING TO...
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| 00:43:49 |
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LLOYD'S TESTIMONY, YES. >> INFORM FACT,
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| 00:43:53 |
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HE SAID YOU ACTUALLY SAID THAT TO HIM ON APRIL 14th. IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S HIS
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| 00:43:57 |
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TESTIMONY, CORRECT. >> ONLY YOU
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| 00:44:00 |
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TOLD THE JURY A MOMENT AGO THAT THEY SHOULDN'T CONSIDER A WORD HE SAID BECAUSE HE WAS A DRUNK AND HE WAS DRUNK THAT DAY. IS THAT CORRECT? >> HE WAS IN...
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| 00:44:07 |
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DAY, SIR. >> THIS MAN FALLING-DOWN
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| 00:44:10 |
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DRUNK WHEN YOUR BUGGY WOULD NOT WORK AND HAD TO GO BACK TO D.C., OF ALL THE PEOPLE, YOU WENT TO HIM AND ASKED HIM TO FIX YOUR BUGGY. IS THAT CORRECT?...
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| 00:44:21 |
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YES. HE -- >> AND HE DID FIX
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| 00:44:23 |
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YOUR BUGGY, DID HE NOT, AND SENT YOU BACK ON YOUR WAY TO D.C.? >> TEMPORARILY FIXED
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| 00:44:28 |
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IT, YES, SIR. >>
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| 00:44:30 |
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WELL, YOU WENT TO HIM TO FIX YOUR BUGGY. BY THE WAY, THIS BROKEN-DOWN DRUNK THAT YOU'VE DENIGRATED IN THIS COURTROOM, THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT YOU -- VIRTUALLY...
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| 00:44:44 |
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YES. >> OF
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| 00:44:45 |
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ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD TO ENTRUST WITH YOUR PROPERTY, YOU CHOSE HIM TO MANAGE YOUR PROPERTY. IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES,
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| 00:44:51 |
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SIR. >> AND YOU'VE HEARD
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| 00:44:52 |
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HIM ADMIT THAT HE HELPED BOOTH AFTER FINDING OUT THAT BOOTH HAD JUST KILLED LINCOLN. HE ASSISTED BOOTH THAT NIGH. IS THAT CORRECT? YOU HEARD HIM...
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| 00:45:05 |
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YES. >> SO HE'S THE FOURTH
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| 00:45:07 |
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PERSON THAT BY COINCIDENCE YOU HAD ASSOCIATION WITH THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE PLOT TO KILL HIGH-RANKING PUBLIC OFFICIALS. IS THAT CORRECT? >> SEEMS
|
| 00:45:16 |
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TO BE. >> LET'S ASK ABOUT
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| 00:45:18 |
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THE FIFTH ONE. THE FIFTH ONE IS YOUR SON, JOHN SURRATT. IS THAT
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| 00:45:24 |
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CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >> AND YOU
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| 00:45:25 |
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JUST TOLD THE JURY THAT JOHN SURRATT IS SOMEONE THAT YOU HAVE NO INFORMATION OR KNOWLEDGE OR ANY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE PLOT...
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| 00:45:37 |
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CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> JOHN
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| 00:45:40 |
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SURRATT, WHAT IS HE -- AT THE TIME NOW HE'S 21 OR 22 YEARS OLD? >> HE'S
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| 00:45:44 |
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21 YEARS OLD. >> HE'S
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| 00:45:46 |
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YOUR SON AND YOU CARE FOR HIM VERY DEEPLY. IS THAT CORRECT? >> OH, YES,
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| 00:45:49 |
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I DO. >> AND HE CARES FOR
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| 00:45:51 |
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YOU DEEPLY. IS THAT
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| 00:45:53 |
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CORRECT? >> I BELIEVE SO. >> AND RIGHT NOW IT'S
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| 00:45:55 |
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YOUR BELIEF THAT HE'S NOW HIDING IN CANADA BECAUSE OF WARRANTS FOR HIS ARREST IN THE U.S. CORRECT? >> I BELIEVE
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| 00:46:03 |
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HE IS IN CANADA, YES. >> IS THERE
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A REASON WHY -- STRIKE THE QUESTION. WE ALSO KNOW AS YOU SIT HERE ON THIS WITNESS STAND, YOU'RE FIGHTING FOR YOUR LIFE TO AVOID THE GALLOWS. IS THAT
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| 00:46:12 |
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CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >> AND HE HAS
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NOT RETURNED TO THE U.S. TO TESTIFY FOR YOU OR SHOW ANY SUPPORT WHATSOEVER. IS THAT
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| 00:46:20 |
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CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> HE HAS NOT BEEN HERE A
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SINGLE DAY DURING THIS TRIAL, HAS HE? >>
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| 00:46:25 |
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NO. >> AND DO YOU THINK
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| 00:46:26 |
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THERE MAY BE A VERY GOOD REASON WHY JOHN SURRATT, YOUR SON, IS HIDING IN CANADA AND NOT COMING BACK TO TRY TO HELP HIS MOTHER? DO YOU THINK IT COULD...
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| 00:46:38 |
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OBJECTION, YOUR HONOR. IT'S SPECULATIVE AND COMPOUND AND IMPOSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND. >>
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SUSTAINED. >> LET ME ASK YOU --
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| 00:46:47 |
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IS THERE A REASON WHY YOUR SON CHOSE NOT TO -- DO YOU KNOW A REASON WHY HE HAS CHOSEN TO LET YOU SIT HERE WITHOUT HIS HELP AND STAYED IN CANADA AS THIS...
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| 00:46:58 |
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SON. I DO NOT KNOW. >> DID YOU EVER --
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| 00:47:00 |
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YOU'VE HEARD TESTIMONY ABOUT YOUR SON'S INVOLVEMENT IN MOVING WEAPONS OUT TO YOUR SURRATSVILLE PROPERTY. >> I'VE HEARD THE
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TESTIMONY. >> YOU'RE
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AWARE OF THE ALLEGATIONS THAT YOUR SON WAS INVOLVED IN THE CONSPIRACY.
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| 00:47:11 |
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IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >> AND YOU'RE ALSO AWARE AS
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| 00:47:13 |
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YOU SIT HERE NOW FOR SOME POWERFUL REASON HE HAS NOT RETURNED TO TESTIFY FOR YOU. IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? >>
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| 00:47:19 |
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OBJECTION, YOUR HONOR. BADGERING THE WITNESS. IT'S ASKED AND ANSWERED. >>
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| 00:47:23 |
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SUSTAINED. >> I HAVE NO MORE
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| 00:47:39 |
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QUESTIONS. >>
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| 00:47:41 |
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COUNSEL? ARE WE PREPARED TO BEGIN THE CLOSING ARGUMENT? >> WE
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ARE, YOUR HONOR. >> YOU MAY PROCEED. >> MAY IT PLEASE THE COURT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE JURY, MY NAME IS MICHAEL MONICO....
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| 00:48:00 |
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INTO CONTEXT THE ACTIONS OF MARY SURRATT. IT IS HER OWN ACTIONS THAT PROVE THAT SHE IS NOT A VICTIM OF A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE COINCIDENCES, THAT PROVED...
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| 01:02:00 |
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OBJECTION. LOUIS WHITEMAN DIDN'T FIX ANYONE'S CARRIAGE. >>
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| 01:02:03 |
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EXCUSE ME. IF JOHN LLOYD WAS SOBER ENOUGH TO FIX HER CARRIAGE AND SOBER ENOUGH TO FOLLOW HER DIRECTIONS WITH THE BINOCULARS AND THE GUNS GUNS, HE WAS...
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COURT. >> MR.
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JOHNSON. >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
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| 01:05:51 |
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OF THE JURY. THE JUDGE WILL TELL YOU IN HIS CLOSING REMARKS AND HIS INSTRUCTION THAT MARY SURRATT IS PRESUMED INNOCENT. THE JUDGE WILL TELL YOU THAT...
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| 01:15:00 |
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HONOR. >> OBJECTION
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| 01:15:01 |
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IS SUSTAINED. THE ARGUMENT IS IMPROPER. >> THE
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FACT OF THE MATTER IS PAYNE CAME TO THE HOUSE. ACCORDING TO THE EVIDENCE IN THIS CASE, MARY IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE SAID TO WHITEMAN WORDS TO THE EFFECT...
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| 01:23:27 |
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THE DEFENDANT IN THIS CASE, MARY, IS CHARGED WITH MALICIOUSLY, UNLAWFULLY, AND TRAITOROUSLY ON OR BEFORE THE 6th DAY OF MARCH, 1865 AND ON OTHER DAYS...
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| 01:27:41 |
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GENTLEMEN, YOU ARE THE JURY. WE ASK YOU NOW TO DELIBERATE FOR 60 SECONDS. YOU MAY TALK AMONG YOURSELVES, AND AT THE END OF ONE MINUTE I WILL COME BACK...
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| 01:28:13 |
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TOO. DIDN'T GO TOO LONG. IT WAS PERFECT. >> IT'S GOING BE INTERESTING
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| 01:28:19 |
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TO WATCH OURSELVES TOO BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. >> I
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| 01:28:40 |
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KNOW. >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE
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| 01:28:58 |
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60 SECONDS HAS PASSED. IT IS NOW TIME TO RENDER YOUR VERDICT. YOU CAN TAKE EITHER OF THE FOLLOWING SELECTIONS ON THIS DEVICE THAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU AS...
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| 01:30:52 |
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OVER. >> IN THE CASE -- WELL,
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ACTUALLY ACTUALLY -- >> STAND
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UP. [ APPLAUSE ] >>
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THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU,
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| 01:31:14 |
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YOUR HONOR. UNFORTUNATELY, MARY SARRATT WAS HANGED. ON JULY 7, 1865, LESS THAN THREE MONTHS AFTER THE DEATH OF PRESIDENT LINCOLN ON APRIL 14th AND...
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