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NEW YORK, THE LIFE OF IS PROFILED IN "THE CONTENDERS". >> I COME HERE TONIGHT
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KNOWING I AM THE UNDERDOG IN THESE FINAL WEEKS. IF YOU KNOW WHERE TO LOOK, THERE ARE SIGNS OF HOPE. EVEN IN THE MOST UNEXPECTED PLACES. EVEN IN THIS...
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| 00:00:51 |
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TO GET THIS INVITATION. I FEEL RIGHT AT HOME HERE BECAUSE IT IS OFTEN SAID I SHARE THE POLITICS OF ALFRED E. SMITH AND THE EARS OF ALFRED NEWMAN. IT...
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| 00:01:21 |
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BY THE FINAL REPEAL OF THE 18TH AMENDMENT. WHEN THIS MATTER WAS SUBMITTED, THEY WOULD READILY SEE IT HAD NO PLACE IN OUR CONSTITUTION. IT WOULD BE VERY...
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| 00:01:58 |
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TO THE 2008 PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEES TALKING AT THAT YOUR'S AL SMITH DINNER FOLLOWED BY AL SMITH HIMSELF TALKING ABOUT THE LIFTING OF PROHIBITION. WELCOME...
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| 00:03:07 |
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1928 ELECTION IS ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING AND ALSO WHAT OF THE MOST VICIOUS ELECTIONS IN AMERICAN HISTORY. WE HAVE TWO CANDIDATES WHO REALLY EMBODIED...
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THREE P LS INFLUENCED THIS ELECTION -- PROHIBITION, PROSPERITY, AND PREJUDICE. >> WE HAVE AL SMITH
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WHO IS ONE OF THE NATION'S BIGGEST CRITICS OF PROHIBITION. IT HAS BEEN IN EFFECT FOR ALMOST A DECADE. IT HAS BEEN A REAL PROBLEM FOR MOST OF THAT TIME...
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| 00:06:32 |
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DID THE ROLE OF CATHOLICISM PLAY OUT? >> IT WAS A VICIOUS
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| 00:06:35 |
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CAMPAIGN. THIS WAS NOT NEW TO HIM. WHEN HE RAN IN NEW YORK STATE, HE FACED AT THEM. IN 1914, MARTIN GLENN FACED ANTI CATHOLIC PREJUDICE. SHOWED UP IN...
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| 00:07:18 |
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EARLIER, WE ARE IN THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY CHAMBER AND ALBANY, NEW YORK IN THE NEW YORK STATE CAPITOL BUILDING, FINISHED IN 1894. WE ARE ALSO PLEASED...
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| 00:08:18 |
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HE WAS A FIGHTER. IF YOU LOOK AT HIM AND D.C. THE SHORT STATURE, HIS GRAVELLY VOICE COMES OUT ALL ACROSS AMERICA. THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST CAMPAIGNS WHERE...
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| 00:09:08 |
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VOTE COUNT AT THE END. 874 AL SMITH. WHICH STATES THAT HE WHEN AND WHY? >> IT WAS DEFINITELY
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| 00:09:18 |
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A BLOWOUT ELECTION. I THINK THE REAL -- IN SOME WAYS WE CAN ALMOST SAY AL SMITH SHOULD THANK HIS LUCKY STARS HE DID NOT WIN THE 1928 ELECTION. WE MIGHT...
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| 00:10:20 |
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I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. THAT IS PROGRESSIVISM. HE WAS KNOWN AS THE PROGRESSIVE DURING HIS TIME IN THE LEGISLATURE. DID THAT PLAY AN ISSUE AT ALL? >> WHEN...
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| 00:10:35 |
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THINK ABOUT IT, PROGRESSIVISM IS A HISTORICAL PHENOMENON. IT REALLY BEGINS AT AROUND 1900 WITH, SAY, TEDDY ROOSEVELT. WHAT IT MEANS BY THE 1920'S IS ...
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| 00:11:49 |
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THAT IS A KEY POINT. WE TALK ABOUT THE NEW DEAL TODAY. WE TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAMS AND EVERYTHING FDR BROUGHT IN. WHEN SMITH RAN FOR PRESIDENT, HE HAD...
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| 00:13:02 |
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IF YOU WERE ELECTED GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK AT THAT TIME, WORKING RACIAL AND OR AN AUTOMATIC FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE NATIONAL STAGE? >>
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| 00:13:10 |
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ABSOLUTELY. AL SMITH WAS NOMINATED -- IT WAS ALWAYS THE FAVORITE SON CANDIDACIES. THEY NOMINATED AL SMITH FOR GOVERNOR -- FOR PRESIDENT. IT WENT ONE...
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| 00:13:59 |
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TO JUMP IN THERE. I THINK THE WORK WAS JUST AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT -- NEW YORK WAS ONE, AND OHIO WAS THE OTHER. IT KEPT PRODUCING PRESIDENT AFTER PRESIDENT....
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| 00:14:42 |
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TWO MACHINES? >>
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| 00:14:48 |
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THE REPUBLICANS HEAD AND AN INCREDIBLY POWERFUL NETWORK AS WELL. >>
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| 00:14:51 |
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WHAT IS TAMMANY HALL? >> TAMMANY HALL
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| 00:14:54 |
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IS TECHNICALLY JUST THE NEW YORK CITY'S DEMOCRATIC PARTY. THE MANHATTAN DEMOCRATIC PARTY. TAMMANY HALL FROM THE MID-19TH CENTURY WAS BEST KNOWN AS THE...
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| 00:15:38 |
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INTO THE 1928 ELECTION? >> THAT WAS THE
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| 00:15:41 |
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BRUSH THAT PAINTED SMITH INTO A CORNER. WE TALK ABOUT THE RELIGION ISSUE. THIS STARTED AT THE CONVENTION IN 1928. TAMMANY HALL WOULD GO TO THE CONVENTIONS...
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| 00:16:40 |
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IN THE 1928 ELECTION. >>
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| 00:16:41 |
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HE DID. HE HAD THE SAD FATE OF LOSING THE RACE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND SEEING HIS HAND-PICKED SUCCESSOR WHEN THE. IT SLIPS THE DYNAMIC...
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| 00:17:05 |
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RETIREMENT. >> WILL GET INTO THAT. WHEN WE ASK THE PRIOR TO THE SHOW SOME ISSUES HE THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT TO THE 1928 ELECTION, WHEN YOU MENTIONED WAS...
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| 00:17:18 |
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PARTICULARLY FOR ALL SMITH, HE HAS COME TO AGE AS A MEDIA BATTLES. THEY WERE AFTER HIM AND AFTER HIM, ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL NEWSPAPER TYCOON'S IN THE...
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| 00:18:31 |
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OF THE THINGS THAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT SMITH IN THE PRESS IS THAT HE LOVED THE PRESS. HE USED TO HOLD PRESS CONFERENCES HERE IN ALBANY, THE PRESS CORPS...
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| 00:19:47 |
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IN, YOU MENTIONED THE RISE OF RADIO. I THINK THAT MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN HOW AMERICANS WERE ABLE TO PERCEIVE SMITH. HE IS THIS ME YOUR GUIDE. I WILL...
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| 00:20:24 |
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WAS THE FIRST TIME EVER PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO HEAR THEIR CANDIDATES,
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| 00:20:28 |
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CORRECT? >> YES. AS RADIO STARTED TO GET BIGGER AND AS THE MEDIA STARTED TO CIRCULATE, TV CAME MUCH LATER. PEOPLE WOULD HEAR THE CAMPAIGNS FROM THE POLITICAL...
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| 00:21:03 |
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FROM ALBANY, NEW YORK. "THE CONTENDERS" WITH AL SMITH. ' HE IS THE FOURTH TIME GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK. 1928, THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR THE DEMOCRATS....
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| 00:21:50 |
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IN A LITTLE HOUSE UNDER THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE. THE BRIDGE WAS ERECTED WHEN I WAS A SMALL BOY. MY FATHER WAS AT THE OPENING CEREMONY. WHAT HE CAME HOME,...
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| 00:22:39 |
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NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE ALL SMITH GREW UP. HE RAISED HIS CHILDREN HERE. HE WENT TO SCHOOL RIGHT AROUND THE BLOCK. HIS FATHER DIED, AND HE HAD TO GO OFF TO...
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| 00:23:26 |
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SPEAKER WE HEARD WAS AL SMITH IV, AL SMITH'S GREAT-GRANDSON. >> I NEVER DO VOCAL
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| 00:23:39 |
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CORDS COULD BE INHERITED. AND SO DID A LITTLE BIT LIKE HIS GREAT-GRANDFATHER. THE LOWER EAST SIDE IS THE SOUTHERN TIP OF MANHATTAN. THAT IS WHERE SMITH...
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| 00:25:17 |
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SO HE WENT THROUGH THE SEVENTH GRADE. >> HE
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| 00:25:19 |
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HAD TO LEAVE A MONTH OR TWO PER GRADUATING EIGHTH GRADE. IT WAS TOO TOUGH. >> PAINT THE
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| 00:25:29 |
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LARGER PICTURE. WHAT WAS NEW YORK LIKE AND WHAT WAS THE COUNTRY LIKE IN 1873? >> 1873 -- NEW YORK
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| 00:25:37 |
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IS GROWING INCREASINGLY DIFFERENT FROM THE REST OF THE COUNTRY IN MANY WAYS. AT THAT POINT WE ARE EIGHT YEARS OUT FROM THE END OF THE CIVIL WAR. IN NEW...
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| 00:28:09 |
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DE IT WAS THE SAME. HE WOULD TALK ABOUT SAILORS FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. HE WOULD MEET PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. THERE WERE SECTIONS OF HIS...
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| 00:29:29 |
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1886 AT 13 YEARS OLD. WHERE DID HE GO TO WORK? >> HE HAD PROBABLY
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| 00:29:35 |
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ONE OF THE TOUGHEST CAREERS I HAVE EVER HEARD OF. HE STARTS BY LEAVING EARLY. HE GOES AND SELLS NEWSPAPERS. HE STARTS AFTER SCHOOL, I WILL SELL NEWSPAPERS....
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| 00:31:17 |
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AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AL SMITH. FIRST OFF FOR OUR TWO GUESTS, WAYNE, YOU ARE ON CSPAN. >>
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| 00:31:30 |
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HELLO. THE QUESTION IS TWO FULL. I AM INTERESTED IN WHAT AL SMITH'S ROLE AND COMMITMENT WAS TO THE NEW YORK STATE CIVIL SERVICES AND LABOR. HOW HE CHAMPIONED...
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| 00:32:05 |
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THANK YOU. THAT IS A REALLY GOOD POINT THAT SEPARATED OUT SMITH WHEN IT CAME TO LABOR ISSUES. IN 1911, THERE WAS THE FAMOUS FACTORY FIRE GOT IN MANHATTAN....
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| 00:34:00 |
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JOHN EVERS WAS TALKING ABOUT, DID IT PLAY OUT NATIONALLY? HOW STRONG OR THE FORCES BEHIND THE ISSUES? >> I THINK AL
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| 00:34:09 |
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SMITH IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOMEBODY WHO WAS RADICALIZED OVER THE COURSE OF HIS TIME ON A POLITICIAN. HE STARTS OUT AS AN UNEXCEPTIONAL TAMPA THE GUY WHO...
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| 00:37:02 |
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ABOUT ALL SMITH, HOW DO YOU THINK HE WOULD FEEL ABOUT THE CURRENT OCCUPY HISTWALL STREET MOVEMENT? >> THAT
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| 00:37:12 |
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WOULD BE INTERESTING. HE WAS AN UNDERDOG. SMITH WOULD OUT THERE AND IT TOOK ON POPULAR STATES IS. HE GOT UP THERE IN 1920 AND TOLD THE ASSEMBLY NEXT...
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| 00:38:14 |
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FRANCIS IN CINCINNATI. YOU ARE ON "THE CONTENDERS" ON C-SPAN. >> GOOD
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| 00:38:19 |
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EVENING. I HAVE BEEN PRIVILEGED TO HAVE GONE TO SCHOOL IN ALBANY. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THE FINANCIAL BANKING THAT ELSPETH HAD --...
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| 00:38:51 |
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WHERE DID YOU GO TO SCHOOL HERE IN ALBANY? WE HAVE SEVERAL COLLEGES IN OUR AUDIENCE. >> I WENT TO THE
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| 00:38:59 |
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ACADEMY OF THE SACRED HEART ON SOUTH PEARL STREET. UNFORTUNATELY, IT HAS BEEN CLOSED AND IS NOW FOR SALE. >>
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| 00:39:09 |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> HE WAS A GOOD
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| 00:39:19 |
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FRIEND OF THE DUPONT FAMILY. HE WAS ONE OF THE KEY PEOPLE IN GENERAL MOTORS. HE WAS A MULTI MILLIONAIRE. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, SMITH WAS NOT A HUGE...
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| 00:40:30 |
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I THINK IT IS TRUE. THE QUESTION THAT CAME UP ABOUT WHAT HE WOULD THINK ABOUT OCCUPY WALL STREET, IT REALLY DEPENDS WHAT AL SMITH BARTOK IN ABOUT. HE...
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| 00:41:41 |
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YOU POINTED OUT WHERE HE SAT IN THIS CHAMBER. HE STARTED OUT SOMEWHERE IN THE BACK, YOU SAID. >> WAY IN
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| 00:41:52 |
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THE BACK. SEAT 143 I THINK IT WAS. HE USED TO GET CONFUSED WITH THE BYSTANDERS AND THE VISITORS. THAT WAS BEFORE THEY GOT MICROPHONES. BEFORE -- 40 DEAD...
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| 00:43:05 |
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THE SAME DISTRICT. THEY BOTH ARE DEMOCRATS. THE BULK FOR SPEAKERS OF THE ASSEMBLY. IT IS INTERESTING WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT -- IT IS ALMOST 100 YEARS AGO...
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| 00:44:08 |
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SPEAKER SHELDON SILVER ABOUT ALL SMITH. HERE IS WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. >> I THINK HE WAS
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| 00:44:15 |
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A MAN AHEAD OF HIS TIME. PUTTING IN LEGISLATION TO DEAL WITH CHILD LABOR, WITH LABOR GENERALLY. PROVIDING RIGHTS. WE TODAY COMMEMORATE THAT TRIANGLE...
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| 00:45:43 |
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THAT PORTRAIT OR THAT PHOTOGRAPH OF AL SMITH THAT IS IN THE OFFICE, WHAT WAS THAT TAKEN? >>
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| 00:45:50 |
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THAT WAS PROBABLY TAKEN WHEN HE WAS THE SPEAKER. HE WAS A VERY YOUNG MAN. HE WAS ELECTED TO THE ASSEMBLY WHAT HE WAS ONLY ABOUT 30 YEARS OLD. HE WOULD...
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| 00:46:18 |
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THE SPEAKER OF THE NEW YORK ASSEMBLY, AND HOW DOES THAT COMPARE WITH THE POWER TODAY? >> THE SPEAKER IS
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| 00:46:25 |
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ALWAYS THE MOST POWERFUL PERSON. I WOULD SAY IT IS MOST COMPARABLE. BACK THEN WHEN SMITH WAS JUST STARTING OUT. HE DID NOT EVEN MEET THE SPEAKER UNTIL...
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| 00:47:14 |
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STATE POLITICS IN THE NEW YORK CANDY TEENS AND TODAY. >> AS I SAID, NEW YORK IS A
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| 00:47:22 |
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KEY STATE NATIONALLY BUT IT HAS ITS OWN POLITICAL CULTURE. I THINK IT REFLECTS THE SAME THINGS WE SEE TODAY. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR URBAN CORE,...
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| 00:48:47 |
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A COMMENTARY AND THEN A QUESTION. YOUR FOUR OF HIS ACTION -- YEAR FOR ITS STABILITY. I DON'T HAVE THE CREDENTIALS YOU DO. I FANCY MYSELF AND ARMCHAIR...
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| 00:49:37 |
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IS AN INTERESTING QUESTION. SMITH GOES THROUGH A VERY WEIRD POLITICAL TRANSITION IN THE 1930'S. AFTER IT LOST THE ELECTION, HE DOES LOOK OF A LOT OF...
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| 00:50:55 |
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POLITICIAN TODAY YOU WOULD COMPARE TO ELSPETH? >>
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| 00:50:57 |
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I DON'T KNOW. IT TODAY POSE THE RISK, HE MIGHT BE MORE OF THE TECHNOCRAT. POPULISM ITSELF THAT SMITH EMBODIED WAS ALMOST LIKE A COMPASSION BEST, HE WANTED...
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| 00:52:14 |
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DAYTON, OHIO. >> I WAS WONDERING IF,IN
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| 00:52:26 |
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1929 WALL STREET COLLAPSED. I WAS WONDERING IF HE HAD ANY PARTY PLATFORM THAT MIGHT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO ANYTHING -- ANY OF THE ABUSES BY THE MONEYED...
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| 00:53:05 |
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TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YES. IF AL SMITH HAD BEEN ELECTED, NONE OF THE DEPRESSION WOULD EVER HAPPEN. I DON'T THINK THAT IS TRUE. I DON'T THINK OF ECONOMIC...
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| 00:54:16 |
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WHAT HOOVER AT THE END WITH HIS IDEAS OF EXPERIMENTATION WITH GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION, I HEARD SOMEBODY SAY ONCE THAT IF SMITH HAD IT RUN AND WON IN 1928,...
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| 00:54:51 |
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A BACK TO 1918. AL SMITH IS ELECTED GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK FOR THE FIRST TIME. HOW? >> THE ACCIDENTAL
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| 00:55:00 |
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GOVERNOR. IT TOOK ALL SMITH UNTIL 1925 OR 1926 TO GET INTO THE MINDS OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT HE WAS NOT GOING TO LOSE. SO HE RAN AGAINST CHARLES...
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| 00:57:12 |
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HIS ELECTIONS ARE PRETTY CLOSE. >> THEY ARE CLOSE UNTIL THE
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| 00:57:16 |
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LAST TWO. THEY HAVE A VERY CLOSE ELECTION WHICH IS 50,000 VOTES IN THE 1980. HE LOSES A CLOSE ELECTION IN 1920. THE NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC TICKET GOES...
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| 00:58:07 |
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VOTE. DOES THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN AL SMITH'S CAREER? >> HE IS INTERESTING
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| 00:58:15 |
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BECAUSE AS JOHN INDICATED BEFORE, HE ACTUALLY STAFFED A LOT OF HIS INNER CIRCLE WITH WOMEN AT A BALL BETWEEN NOT MANY SPEAKERS ARE DOING THAT. FRANCIS...
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| 00:59:09 |
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NOT AT FIRST. AT FIRST, HE WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF FORBIDS A SUFFRAGE. IT HIS MOTHER SAID, I WOULD NEVER VOTE. THERE IS NO NEED FOR ME TO VOTE. SHE DOES....
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| 01:00:08 |
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HERE IS THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION. WHAT WAS LIFE LIKE FOR ALL SMITH AT THE GOVERNOR'S
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| 01:00:14 |
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MANSION? >> HECTIC. SMITH ALWAYS LOVED ANIMALS. WHEN HE WAS A KID HE WOULD COLLECT DOGS. SOWN ON THE SOUTH PORT, SAILORS WOULD COME IN AND HAVE THESE...
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| 01:01:57 |
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ANIMAL FRONT WE ALL OWE SMATHE DEBT FOR OYS -- HIS LOVE OF ANIMALS BECAUSE ONE OF HIS GREAT ALLIES FIRST IN CITY GOVERNMENT AND THEN STATE PARK...
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| 01:02:57 |
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HONORARY NIGHT SUPERINTENDENT WAS AL SMITH AT THE ZOOM. >> WE'VE HAD A VERY,
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| 01:03:01 |
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VERY PATIENT AUDIENCE HERE AND IN JUST A MINUTE WE'RE GOING TO START TAKING QUESTIONS FROM YOU AS WELL. BUT WE HAVE A VERY PATIENT TONY FROM PLEASANTVILLE,...
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| 01:03:18 |
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THIS SERIES AND C-SPAN. I'VE BEEN WATCHING FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND THIS -- I THINK IF MORE PEOPLE WOULD WATCH C-SPAN WE WOULD HAVE BETTER PRESIDENTIAL...
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| 01:04:13 |
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GOING GET JOHN TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. BUT I KNOW YOU ARE A NEW YORKER. IS THAT THE REASON FOR YOUR INTEREST IN AL SMITH AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE SOMETHING...
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| 01:04:25 |
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CALLED EMPIRE STATESMAN. I WORKED IN ALBANY FOR A WHILE AND I KNEW THE AL SMITH BUILDING WAS THERE, THE TALLEST BUILDING IN THE STATE WF THE -- BEFORE...
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| 01:04:43 |
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ALL RIGHT. THANKS FOR CALLING IN SHOULDN'T -- TONIGHT THE WHAT ELSE ABOUT BELLE MOSS COWITZ AND WHAT HE DID TO EDUCATE HIMSELF? >> BELLE
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| 01:04:55 |
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WAS THE UNOFFICIAL GATE KEEPER. SHE WOULD SERVE AS HIS SURVIVOR AND -- ADVISOR AND IT WAS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT AS SHE WAS THE PERSON...
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| 01:07:09 |
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LONG? >> YEAH, THEY
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| 01:07:11 |
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COULD HAVE A -- SAVE A LOT OF TREES BY HAVING THEM DONE ELECTRONICALLY THE SMITH USED TO REAT THE APPROPRIATEATIONS BILL COVER TO COVER AND I -- HE...
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| 01:07:39 |
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OUR SUSPENSE. THIS IS CAVE PES -- PET RUSA. HE IS AN AUTHOR. DID NOT KNOW HE WAS GOING TO BE HERE TONIGHT. HE WAS A NEW BOOK COMING OUT ABOUT THE...
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| 01:07:54 |
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THANK YOU. AND YOUR GUESTS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB TONIGHT. THERE ARE IS CONSTANCE IN AL SMITH'S CAREER. THERE IS TAM ANNIE HALL, FRANKLY ROOSEVELT....
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| 01:08:21 |
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LET'S START WITH BEVERLY GAUGE. >> HEARST IS
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| 01:08:26 |
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ONE OF THE TOWERING FIGURES OF THIS MOMENT AND HE TURNS INTO ONE OF SMITH'S GREAT CRITICS AND HE'S SORT OF THE MAN AROUND WHICH SMITH LEARNS HOW TO...
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| 01:12:27 |
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HE WAS ACTIVE IN. 1920, 1924 AND 1932. HERE SAY NEWS REEL ABOUT THE ELECTIONS. >> THEN THE GREAT
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| 01:12:40 |
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POLITICAL BATTLE OF 1924 WHERE WITH ALFRED E. SMITH AND JOHN DAVIS, HE STOOD OUT AS A LEADER. THERE NEVER WAS A POLITICAL CONVENTION TO MATCH THE...
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| 01:14:20 |
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D. ROOSEVELT, HAVING RECEIVED MORE THAN 2/3 OF ALLLE DELEGATES, I PROCLAIM HIM THE NOMINEE OF THIS CONVENTION FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. >>...
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| 01:14:33 |
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HAVE NOMINATED ME AND I KNOW IT AND I AM HERE TO THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR. I PLEDGE MYSELF TO A NEW DEAL FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. >> AND
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| 01:14:50 |
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BACK LIVE IN THE NEW YORK CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY CHAMBER. BEVERLY GAUGE, HOW DID WE GET FROM 1928 AL SMITH CALLING -- F.D.R. CALLING AL SMITH THE HAPPY...
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| 01:15:11 |
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ALLIES BEFORE, BOTH COMING UP THROUGH THE SAME NEW YORK DEMOCRATIC PARTY. A COUPLE OF THINGS HAPPENED BETWEEN 1928 AND 1932, SOME OF THINK -- WHICH...
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| 01:18:03 |
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YOUR CALLS ON THE CONTENDERS. SHERIDAN, ARKANSAS ARKANSAS -- ARKANSAS. YES, MY GRANDFATHER AL BERT GODWIN WAS A COUNTY DEMOCRAT CHAIRMAN, A STATE...
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| 01:18:31 |
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LET'S ASK THE FORMER NEW YORK CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY HISTORIAN IF HE COULD -- STATE ASSEMBLY HISTORIAN IF HE COULD DO THAT IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. >>...
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| 01:18:45 |
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SURE! DEWEY WILL BE THE SUBJECT OF A FUTURE CONTENDERS I THINK IN TWO WEEKS. >> THERE VL NO
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| 01:18:53 |
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COMPARISON. WITH DEWEY THE PERSONALITIES COULDN'T BE MORE DIFFERENT. THEY REALLY COULDN'T BE. FIRST OF ALL IF SMITH IS A DEMOCRAT, DEWEY IS A REPUBLICAN....
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| 01:20:25 |
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THANK YOU. AMY STANDARD FROM CLIFTON PARK, NEW YORK THE BESIDES THE ZOO THAT AL SMITH BROUGHT TO THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION, WHAT WAS HIS MOAT NOTEABLE...
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| 01:20:43 |
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WERE TO RATTLE THEM OFF IT WOULD BE KIND OF IMPRESSIVE BUT WE DON'T HAVE, LIKE, THREE HOURS. PROBABLY SMITH'S BIGGEST ACHIEVEMENTS WERE TO BRING PROGRESSIVEISM...
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| 01:22:25 |
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OK WITH STATE GOVERNMENT AS IT IS. WHEN SMITH WAS GOVERNOR, IT WAS 10, 10 ABOUT THE 5 MILLION PEOPLE. HE REALIZED STATE GOVERNMENT NEEDED TO BE HOUSED....
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| 01:23:08 |
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BEVERLY GAUGE? >> I JUST WANTED TO ADD
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| 01:23:11 |
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I THINK ON THE NATIONAL STAGE HE PLAYS A VERY DIFFERENT BUT EQUALLY IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE SENSE THAT SMITH'S CANDIDACY IN 1928 COMES AFTER A DECADE...
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| 01:24:37 |
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WE'RE GOING TO ASK OUR GUESTS WHAT THEY THINK AL SMITH'S BIGGEST FAILURES WERE. BUT HELEN, IN CAPE MAY, NEW JERSEY, YOU ARE ON THE CONTENDERS. >> I...
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| 01:24:48 |
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TO HEAR THAT YOU ARE GOING HAVE AL SMITH ON. MY GRANDFATHER WAS PART OF THE IRISH CATHOLIC REPUBLICAN BEAR MACHINE. THEY DID SPLIT RANKS IN 1920 AND...
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| 01:25:23 |
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JOHN? >> I THINK THAT HIS
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| 01:25:27 |
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INITIAL RESPONSES IN 1928 WERE MORE OF A EMOTIONAL RESPONSE, BASICALLY SAYING, AND HE ADMITTED IT, SAYING I'M DONE, I'M NOT GOING TO RUN AGAIN. IRONICALLY...
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| 01:26:52 |
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HEARD FROM THE FORMER NEW YORK STATE HISTORIAN AND FROM A HISTORY PRMP AT YALE UNIVERSITY ABOUT THE F.D.R.-AL SMITH RELATIONSHIP. ALF LANDON HE SUPPORTED...
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| 01:27:17 |
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LIKE TO MAKE A LITTLE OBSERVATION. LIED IKE -- I'D LIKE TO WONDER WHAT COULD BE GOING THROUGH THE MIND OF THE 16 MILLION MEN THAT ARE IN THE DRAFT....
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| 01:28:31 |
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BEVERLY GAUGE, WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO HEARING THAT? >> WELL, IT'S
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| 01:28:35 |
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REALLY REMARKABLE HOW QUICKLY AND HOW VICIOUSLY AL SMITH ENDS UP GOING AFTER THE PEOPLE WHO HAD ONCE BEEN HIS GREATEST SUPPORTERS. I WAS TRYING TO THINK...
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| 01:29:02 |
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JOE LIEBERMAN? >> I GUESS
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| 01:29:04 |
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SO. JOE LIEBERMAN IS SORT OF HARD TO READ. WAS HE EVER REALLY A DEMOCRAT? I DON'T KNOW. BUT, SO GOING AROUND AND ACTUALLY DOING THESE ENDORSEMENTS...
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| 01:30:42 |
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GOOD EVENING. I'M A PREFER AT SCHENECTADY COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND I TEACH ADMINISTRATIVE LAW. AS MY STUDENTS ARE TALKING ABOUT GOVERNMENT AND HOW GOVERNMENT...
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| 01:32:12 |
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WOULD BE VERY UNDERSTANDING OF LOOSE IMMIGRATION, PROBABLY BECAUSE OF WHERE HE GREW UP. SMITH WAS EXPOSED TO ALL KINDS OF EGS KNICKITIES, -- ETH...
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| 01:33:00 |
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TO ADD SIGNIFICANT ONE THING I REMEMBER AS A STUDENT WAS COMPARE AND CONTRAST, IMMIGRATION THEN AND IMMIGRATION
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| 01:33:08 |
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NOW. >> RIGHT, I THINK THAT'S REALLY AT THE CORE OF WHO AL SMITH PRESENTED HIMSELF TO BE TO THE WORLD. THIS QUESTION OF IMMIGRATION AND LABOR WAS ONE...
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| 01:34:33 |
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IN OUR PROGRAM ON ALSMIPPINGT HOWIE, YOU'RE ON THE AIR. >> YES, GOOD EVENING
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| 01:34:40 |
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I WANTED TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON PROHIBITION AND HOW PRESIDENT HARDY DID NOT FORCE PROHIBITION ON STATES THAT DID NOT DO THE JOB THEMSELVES. IT WAS 1926,...
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| 01:35:08 |
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IS SOMETHING HEAVILY IDENTIFIED WITH AL SMITH. HE NEVER FAVORED PROHIBITION. IT WAS NOT AN ISSUE HE CHAMPIONED. HE DIDN'T LIKE HOW NEW YORK STATE...
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| 01:36:57 |
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INTIMATELY TIED TO ALL THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT IMMIGRATION AND RURAL VERSUS URBAN AMERICA. A LOT OF THE IMAGERY TO PROMOTE PROHIBITION WAS ABOUT THE ...
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| 01:37:28 |
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WHO -- PROHIBITION A CHRISTIAN RIGHT ISSUE IN THE 1920'S KIND OF LIKE ABORTION OR GAY MARRIAGE TODAY? >> I
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| 01:37:37 |
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THINK IT'S CERTAINLY A CULTURAL ISSUE THAT MOBILIZED CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE POPULATION, BUT I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CALL IT A RIGHT WING ISSUE IN ITS...
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| 01:38:34 |
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HIS PRESIDENTIAL RUNS, 192 AND 29 -- 1930, WHAT HAPPENS TO AL SMITH IN 1930? >> AL SMITH AFTER
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| 01:38:44 |
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HE RETIRES FROM THE GOVERNORSHIP HERE IN NEW YORK ACTUALLY AS A LITTLE BIT OF A SIDE NOTE HE BELIEVES AND I LOT OF PEOPLE ATTRIBUTE THIS TO HIM THAT...
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| 01:39:49 |
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LARGE AMOUNT? >> LARGE AMOUNT
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| 01:39:51 |
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BUT HE'S RUNNING LIKE $1 MILLION DEFICIT AS A YEAR BECAUSE NOBODY IS RENTING THE HE GOES TO F.D.R. AND SAYS COULD YOU PUT SOME PEOPLE IN THERE? HE...
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| 01:40:25 |
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FAILURES IS REALLY BAD TIMING. HE ENDS UP AS DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE IN 1928. IF IT HAD BEEN 1932 HE WOULD HAVE BEEN A SHOE-IN. BREAKS GROUND ON THIS...
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| 01:40:45 |
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WE HAD ANOTHER QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE. HI. I'M A JUNIOR POLITICAL SCIENCE MAJOR AT SUNY ALBANY. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN AND -- ANDREW CUOMO...
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| 01:41:25 |
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SIR. THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE LASTING LEGACIES OF ALFRED E. SMITH, AND WHEN GOVERNOR CUOMO ENTERED OFFICE HE PUT SMITH'S PORTRAIT BEHIND THE ROSTRUM...
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| 01:43:19 |
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YORK. MARK, WE'RE HERE IN YOUR HOME TOWN. WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION ON AL SMITH? >> WELL, MY
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| 01:43:24 |
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QUESTION IS THIS. BY THE WAY I DO WORK FOR STATE GOVERNMENT. I'M AN INTERNAL AUDIT DIRECTOR FOR A PUBLIC AUTHORITY AND I TEACH A TWO-DAY CLASS TO STATE...
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| 01:44:24 |
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TO SMITH, BUDGETING WAS DONE BY THE LEETHURE -- LEGISLATURE. THEY WOULD GET TOGETHER YOU ALL THE ESTIMATES OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO RUN GOVERNMENT. ...
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| 01:45:30 |
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THIS PROGRAM WITH A LITTLE VIDEO FROM THE AL SMITH DINNER. WHAT IS THE AL SMITH DINNER AND HOW DID IT COME ABOUT? >> IT'S MOST FAMOUS AS A
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| 01:45:40 |
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PLACE THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES SHOW UP EVERY FOUR YEARS. THEY SHOW UP, DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS. IT'S REALLY A MEMORIAL DINNER FOR SMITH AND...
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| 01:46:28 |
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TOGETHER MOST TIMES. SHE -- THEY SHOW UP, BOTH THE DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN NOMINEES SHOW UP TOGETHER. WE WANT TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE PAST AL SMITH...
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| 01:46:52 |
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THE BANQUET CIRCUIT FOR MANY YEARS AND NEVER QUITE UNDERSTOOD THE LOGISTICS OF DINNERS LIKE THIS AND HOW THE ABSENCE OF ONE INDIVIDUAL COULD CAUSE...
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| 01:47:04 |
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I'M VLAD TO SEE YOU HERE TONIGHT. YOU SAID MANY, MANY TIMES IN THIS CAMPAIGN THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE AMERICA BACK TO THE LITTLE GUY. MR. VICE PRESIDENT,...
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| 01:47:20 |
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OUT AT ALL THE WHITE TIES AND TAILS THIS EVENING, I REALIZED I HAVEN'T SEEN SO MANY PEOPLE SO WELL DRESSED SINCE I WEANT -- WENT TO A COME AS YOU...
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| 01:47:36 |
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HAD REALLY GOOD NEWS OUT OF YUGOSLAVIA. ESPECIALLY PLEASED THAT MR. MILOSEVIC HAS STEPPED DOWN. THAT'S ONE LESS POLYSILL BACK -- POLYSYLLABIC NAME FOR...
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| 01:48:03 |
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THE DAIS WITH THE DESCENDANTS OF THE GREAT AT -- AL SMITH. AL, YOUR GREAT, GREAT GRAND FATHER WAS MY FAVORITE KIND OF GORE. THE KIND WHO RAN FOR PRESIDENT...
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| 01:48:26 |
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WILL. GLEN IN FREELAND, MICHIGAN, YOU ARE ON THE CONTENDERS. PLEASE GO AHEAD. >>
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| 01:48:31 |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS WITH ALL THE ANTI-ROMAN CATHOLIC RACISM AND HIS BEING THE FIRST MAJOR AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL PARTY CANDIDATE...
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| 01:49:12 |
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YOU, GLEN. BEVERLY GAUGE, IF YOU WANT TO START? >> RIGHT, WELL, IN TERMS
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| 01:49:16 |
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OF POLLS HE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THE -- YOU DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THE SAME KIND OF POLLING MECHANISMS YOU HAVE TODAY SO THESE THINGS AIR LITTLE BIT HARDER...
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| 01:50:36 |
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THE ELECTION AND HE LOSES HE DOES EVENTUALLY GO TO EUROPE AT ONE TIME. HE DOES MEET THE POPE AND HE RECOUNTS ON A FEW OCCASIONS THAT ON MANY OF HIS...
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| 01:51:10 |
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1928. 2008, SERIOUS WOMAN CONTENDER, POTENTIAL MORMON INSPECT 2012. IS IT A FAIR COMPARISON? >> I THINK IT IS
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| 01:51:20 |
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A FAIR COMPARISON IN CERTAIN WAYS. IN THAT SENSE AL SMITH WAS ABSOLUTELY, HE WAS A TRAIL BLAZER ON THIS FRONT AND I THINK IN MANY WAYS IT'S HARD...
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| 01:52:29 |
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AND I'M A JUNIOR AMERICAN STUDIES MAJOR AT LAUDER DAME COLLEGE IN SENECA, NEW YORK 79 HOW HAS AL SMITH'S LEGACY BEEN REFLECTED IN -- SO NAR I WENT TO...
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| 01:53:55 |
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BEVERLY? >> THE ONLY THING I MIGHT
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| 01:53:57 |
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ADD IS I'M NOT SURE BARACK OBAMA HAS QUITE LEARNED HOW AL SMITH LEARNED HOW TO MAKE IT ALL HAPPEN. NOT SURE HE'S LEARNED HIS LESSONS FOR DEALING...
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| 01:54:12 |
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CALL FROM HOUSTON, TEXAS. JOE. GOOD EVENING TO YOU. PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> OH, THANKS FOR
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| 01:54:18 |
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TAKING MY CALL. MY FIRST QUESTION, I KNOW SMITH LOST NEW YORK IN 1928 TO HOOVER. HOW WELL DID HE DO IN THE FIVE BOROUGHS? I ALSO WANTED TO KNOW,...
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| 01:54:56 |
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RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> HE DID WELL IN NEW
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| 01:55:00 |
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YORK. HE ALWAYS DID WELL IN NEW YORK CITY. HE DID EXTRAORDINARILY WELL IN HIS OWN DISTRICT. BUT HE JUST COULDN'T MAKE IT UP OVER THE WHOLE STATE....
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| 01:55:14 |
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WIN NEW YORK CITY? DO YOU KNOW OFF HAND IF HE WON IN 1928? >> OH, I
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| 01:55:19 |
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DON'T RECALL. I DON'T THINK HE DID. >> NOT EVEN NEW YORK
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| 01:55:23 |
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CITY? >> NEW YORK CITY ALSO HAD
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| 01:55:25 |
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OUTER BOROUGHS THAT HAD REPUBLICAN DOMINANCE, WHICH IS STILT CASE IN STATEN ISLAND. BUT IN POCK -- BUT IN POCKETS OF QUEENS AS WELL. >> SOCIAL
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| 01:55:34 |
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SECURITY? >> THE
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| 01:55:35 |
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ISSUE ON SOCIAL SECURITY IS SOMETHING THAT SMITH HAD TRIED TO IMPLEMENT IN NEW YORK STATE WHEN IT CAME TO WIDOWS AND ORPHANS' PENSIONS. HE TRIED TO...
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| 01:56:05 |
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ONE OTHER ASPECT THAT CAME UP, WHICH IS ABOUT THE SOUTH. ONE OF THE STRANGE THINGS THAT EMERGES, SO WASN'T A CATHOLICISM MORE POWERFULFUL IN THE SOUTH...
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| 01:57:00 |
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VOTES. AL SMITH 7 -- 87. HERBERT HOOVER WON 40 STATES. SMITH WON EIGHT. LOUISIANA, ALABAMA, MISSISSIPPI, SOUTH CAROLINA, MASSACHUSETTS, AND RODE...
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| 01:57:40 |
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I WOULD GIVE GOVERNOR SMITH AN A BECAUSE HE FACE AID TREMENDOUS HI UPHILL BATTLE. NEW YORK WAS A PREN -- REPUBLICAN STATE AT THE TIME AND AS I MENTIONED...
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| 01:58:33 |
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JOHN EVERS? BIGGEST FAILURE OF SMITH? >> SOME OF IT MIGHT
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| 01:58:37 |
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BE THAT HE OVERTHOUGHT THINGS. I THINK FROM A POLITICAL SCIENCE POINT OF VIEW PUBLIC AUTHORITIES WERE SOMETHING HE WANTED TO DEAL WITH. HE CREATED THOSE...
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| 01:59:05 |
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SMITH CALLED CERTAIN QUESTIONS AND FACED THEM DOWN. HIS CANDIDACY RAISED QUESTIONS THAT HAD BEEN PERCOLATING IN VARIOUS WAYS THROUGHOUT THE 1920'S....
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| 01:59:49 |
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JOHN EVERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING ON THE CONTENDERS. WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE TO THANK SPEAKER SHELDON SILVER AND P THE P PEOPLE HERE AT THE...
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| 02:00:14 |
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FIRST PUBLIC OFFICE IN 1903. I REMAINED IN THE ASSEMBLY FOR 12 YEARS. THEN I WAS ELECTED SHERIFF OF NEW YORK COUNTY. THEN I WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT...
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