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WE CLAIM WE WANT IN THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES AND PRESIDENT. >>
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AND MAN NAMED CHARLES EVAN BAYH -- CHARLES EVANS HUGHES. WOODROW WILSON THOUGHT HE WAS BEATEN. >> AMERICAN
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HISTORY GOES ON IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. WHAT IS HE DOING FOR FOREIGN POLICY? HE IS THE ONE YOU COULD WRITE NOVELS ABOUT. >> HE WAS ON THE SUPREME
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COURT. HE LEFT THE SUPREME COURT. HE RAN FOR PRESIDENT. THEN HE WENT BACK TO THE SUPREME COURT. WHEN OF THE FINEST MINDS ON THE COURT'S. >> WHY
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USE? >> ANDREW JACKSON
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SAID THAT "HE LOOKS LIKE GOD AND TALKS LIKE GOD." >> CHARLES EVANS HUGHES --
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THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE SOON AFTER THE NATIONAL CONVENTION. TONIGHT, WE LOOKED AT THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF CHARLES EVANS HUGHES WHO WAS A...
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SAID IT WOULD BE A TRAGEDY IF HIS ADMINISTRATION WAS DEFINED BY FORIEGN POLICY. IT TURNED OUT TO BE JUST THAT. AMERICA STARTS HIS TERM FOCUSING ON THE...
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HOW DOES HE GET FROM THE SUPREME COURT TO THE NOMINATING PROCESS? >> HE
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GETS THERE SOMEWHAT RELUCTANTLY BECAUSE HE ENJOYED HIS POSITION AS ASSOCIATE JUSTICE OF THE COURT. BUT THEN HE FELT CALLED BY DUTY AFTER SEVERAL CANDIDATES...
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THE REPUBLICAN PARTY LIKE? >>
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IT FRACTURED IN 1912. THERE WAS THE GREAT TEDDY ROOSEVELT/WILLIAM HOWARD TAFT SPLIT. TEDDY RAN AS THE BULL MOOSE PARTY CANDIDATE. THERE IS A REAL QUESTION....
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OF THE TIME? >> HIS
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POLITICS WERE MILDLY PROGRESSIVE. HE IS NOT A WILD MAN FROM THE WEST. BUT WHAT HE IS, HE HAD MOVED FROM THE PRACTICE OF LAW. HE WAS NEVER INTERESTED...
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BE UNIMAGINABLE FOR SOMEONE TO RESIGN FROM THIS POSITION AND RUN FOR A NATIONAL ELECTED OFFICE. WHAT WAS THE REACTION OF THE TIME? WAS A SURPRISE? >>...
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SURPRISED, BUT I THINK THE OFFICE OF THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICE WAS NOT QUITE WHAT IT HAS BECOME NOW. I THINK PART OF THE REASON PEOPLE WOULD BE SHOCKED...
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THE PLAZA OF THE SUPREME COURT. BEAUTIFUL EARLY OCTOBER NIGHT HERE. WE WILL BE HERE FOR TWO HOURS TONIGHT. 14 MEN WHO RAN FOR THE PRESIDENCY AND LOST...
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PHILADELPHIA. THERE WERE TWO CONVENTIONS GOING ON WITHIN A BLOCK OF EACH OTHER. THAT IS THE REAL INTEREST IN GEOGRAPHY THAT YEAR. THE REPUBLICANS WENT...
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THIS DENOMINATION ON THE FIRST BALLOT? -- DOES HE GET THE NOMINATION ON THE
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FIRST BALLOT? >> PARKER? NO, HUGHES. BE ELECTED CANDIDATES WOULD NOT GO TO THE CONVENTION. THERE WAS A NOMINATING PROCESS. A WEEK LATER, THEY HAVE A...
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WAS HE AS A NATIONAL CAMPAIGNER? >> THAT CAMPAIGN
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IS PROBABLY THE WORST THING HE EVER DOES. IN HIS LIFE REALLY. NOT JUST HIS PUBLIC CAREER. HE EXCELLED AT EVERYTHING. THAT CAMPAIGN, HE GOT OFF THE MARK...
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ARE THE PHONE NUMBERS. WE WILL GET CALLS IN A FEW MOMENTS. IN ADDITION TO LABOR ISSUES, THERE WERE ALSO WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE ISSUES. WOMEN DID NOT HAVE THE...
00:16:27
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WILSON HAD ALREADY CHANGED HIS POSITION TO SOME EXTENT ON WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE. INITIALLY HE WAS OPPOSED TO THE NOTION WOMEN WOULD HAVE THE VOTE. BOTH OF...
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WOMEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE AT THAT TIME. FOR HIS SUPPORT OF WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE, A GROUP OF SUPPORTERS OF THE CHARLES EVANS HUGHES IT FORMED A CLUB, CAMPAIGNED...
00:18:40
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PROUD AND THE ORIGINAL EDITION OF THE INDEPENDENT WEEKLY MAGAZINE THAT CAME OUT THE WEEK AFTER JUSTICE USED TO SEE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FOR THE PRESIDENCY....
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FROM NOT WE WILL MOVE TO THE ELECTION. I READ THAT WOODROW WILSON WENT TO BED ON ELECTION NIGHT THINKING HE HAD LOST. >> I WOULD NOT SAY
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HE WAS RESIGNED TO IT. HE WAS ABOUT READY TO EITHER GIVE UP THE PRESIDENCY NOBLY OR IN A HUFF. IS YOUR CALL. HE HAS A PLAN WHERE IT IS LIKE, OK, I HAVE...
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WAS IT WAS INCREDIBLY CLOSE ELECTION. >>
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OH, YES. >> TELLS ABOUT
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THE ELECTORAL VOTE. >> IT WAS ABOUT A QUARTER OF
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A MILLION POPULAR VOTE. WHAT IT IS, IT IS SO CLOSE IN CALIFORNIA. THAT IS THE KEY. IT IS/13 ELECTORAL VOTES, AND THAT IS WHAT THE SITUATION WAS IN CALIFORNIA....
00:24:12
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12 STATES. WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT CHARLES EVANS HUGHES, THAT HE WAS NOT AS MUCH OF A POLITICAL TACTICIAN? >> I THINK HE WAS MUCH
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MORE OF A PRINCIPLED PERSON AND A PRINCIPLED LAWYER THAN A POLITICIAN IN CERTAIN RESPECTS. I THINK PART OF WHAT I MENTIONED BEFORE -- SOME OF THE WOMEN...
00:25:34
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OUR FIRST CALL OF THE EVENING FROM DUNCAN. HELLO. >>
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HELLO. I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT ANY BAD THINGS TRAWLS EVANS HUGHES MIGHT HAVE SAID ABOUT WOODROW WILSON -- ANY BAD THINGS AND CHARLES EVANS HUGHES MIGHT UPSET...
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THINGS HE MIGHT HAVE SAID ABOUT WOODROW WILSON? >> HE CRITICIZED WILSON
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FOR PREPAREDNESS, NOT HAVING AN ARMY ANTS NAVY UP TO SPEED. HE WAS ALSO VERY CRITICAL OF THE WILSON POLICY IN MEXICO. OR YOU HAVE THE REVOLUTIONS OVERTHROWING...
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CONVERSATION. THIS IS CURTIS. >>
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THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A VERY IMPORTANT ASSERTION THAT HUGHES WROTE ABOUT. I WILL GET THROUGH THIS QUICKLY. THE NATIONAL RECOVERY ACT...
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THANK YOU. >> IT IS
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A CRUCIAL POINT AND A CRUCIAL POINT OF CONTENTION AMONG HISTORIANS, THE QUESTION OF WHAT'S DEFEATED THE COURT PACKING SCHEME THAT FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT HAD...
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KY, WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? >> I AM JUST WONDERING WHAT
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DID -- WHAT WERE HUGHES'S VIEWS ON THE NEW DEAL? WHAT WERE HIS VIEWS? AND THANK YOU FOR "THE CONTENDERS." >> AT THE BEGINNING
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OF THE NEW DEAL, THERE WERE STRIKING DOWN A LOT OF NEW DUAL REGISTRATION. PREDICT LEGISLATION. -- NEW DEAL REGISTRATION. OTHERS OF THE JUSTICES, LIKE...
00:30:09
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WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT CHARLES EVANS HUGHES THE MAN. HE WAS DESCRIBED AS LOOKING AND SOUNDING LIKE GOD. >> HE WAS
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5'11". INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, HE WAS VERY SLIGHT AS A YOUNG MAN. HE WEIGHED 127 POUNDS. THEY WOULD NOT WRITE AN INSURANCE POLICY FOR HIM. THAT WOULD GIVE...
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AGE OF 19, HE GRADUATED FROM CORNELL LAW SCHOOL. >> ACTUALLY,
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HE TAUGHT AT CORNELL LAW SCHOOL FOR TWO YEARS AND HE GAVE UP A VERY LUCRATIVE PRACTICE IN NEW YORK WHICH WAS SUPERVISED BY HIS FATHER-IN-LAW IN ORDER...
00:35:03
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PRESIDENT OF COLUMBIA. I APOLOGIZE. WE HAVE A CLIP OF HIM WE WANT TO SHOW SO YOU CAN GET A SENSE OF HIM. HE WAS CONSIDERED QUITE A GREAT ORATOR. LET'S...
00:35:20
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AND RACIAL ANIMOSITIES AND INTOLERANCE ARE THE DEADLY ENEMIES OF TRUE DEMOCRACY. THERE CAN BE NO FRIENDLY COOPERATION IF THEY EXIST. THEY ARE ENEMIES...
00:35:51
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TO TELEPHONE CALLS. YOUR ON THE AIR, FREDERICK. >> I WOULD LIKE TO
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ASK A QUESTION ABOUT WHERE CHARLES EVANS HUGHES WAS BORN. AND DID HE COME FROM A FAMILY OF MONEY? WHERE WAS HIS FAMILY REPORTED HIS FAMILY GET THE...
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YORK. >> HIS FATHER WAS A
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BAPTIST. THEY WERE NOT PARTICULARLY AFFLUENT. THEY GREW UP IN HUMBLE CIRCUMSTANCES. HE WAS QUITE INFLUENCED BY THE BAPTIST BACKGROUND HE ENJOYED FROM...
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IS DANIEL. WELCOME. >> THANK YOU FOR
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TAKING THE TIME TO LET US GET IN ON THE CONVERSATION. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IF THE FEDERAL RESERVE WOULD HAVE BEEN CREATED UNDER HIS ADMINISTRATION,...
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RESERVE CUT BEEN CREATED UNDER CHARLES EVANS HUGHES? BUT IT WOULD NOT, BECAUSE IT ALREADY EXISTED. >> THERE YOU
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GO. FRANK? >> WILSON RAN ON A
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PLATFORM AGAINST THE WAR, AND THERE WAS A TREMENDOUS EXPLOSION IN NEW YORK HARBOR, AND AFTER THE WAR, THE COURT RULED THAT GERMAN AGENTS HAD IN FACT...
00:38:19
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MASSIVE EXPLOSION OF A SHIP THAT ACTUALLY DAMAGED PART OF THE STATUE OF LIBERTY, SHATTERED WINDOWS AS FAR NORTH AS 42ND STREET. WILSON ADMINISTRATION...
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YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT -- DO YOU KNOW THE STORY? >>
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I DO NOT. >> WAS THE
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DAUGHTER OF A SENIOR PARTNER -- >>
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YES. >> ANOTHER THING
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WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WAS THE IMPORTANCE OF MS. IS USED IMPORTANCEJUSI -- WAS THE IMPORTANCE OF MRS. HUGHES IN HIS LIFE. SHE WAS THE DAUGHTER OF WALTER...
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WERE NOT PARTNERS IN POLITICS. THERE WERE OUT CAMPAIGNING ALL THE TIME. >>
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GETTING BACK TO THEIR MARRIAGE, THEIR COURTSHIP IS VERY SLOW. THEY NEED A FEW TIMES. LIKE EVERY FEW MONTHS OR SOMETHING. AND BECAUSE SHE IS THE BOSS'S...
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ON THE AIR, JACK. >> MY QUESTION
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IS ABOUT CHARLES EVANS HUGHES'S PERSPECTIVE ON RACISM AT THE TIME. >> HE
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WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY PROGRESSIVE ON RACE. HIS FIRST TERM AS ASSOCIATE JUSTICE, HE ACTUALLY WROTE AN OPINION THAT SUGGESTED IT WAS NOT VALID FOR RAILROADS...
00:43:48
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BE A LITTLE BIT OFF THE BEATEN PATH. THIS IS ABOUT THE INSTITUTION OF THE PERSONAL INCOME TAX. WHICH PARTY WAS AGAINST IT, AND WHICH PARTY WAS FOR...
00:44:09
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AS PART OF THE REVENUE ACT OF 1913, I THINK, AND THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF THE UNDERWOOD TARIFF. THE DEMOCRATS LOWER THE TARIFF. THEY...
00:45:30
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THE AIR, JOSEPH. >>
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GOOD EVENING. >> IN LIGHT OF
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THE OTHER TELEVISION PROGRAMS THIS WEEK ON PROHIBITION, DID HE HAVE ANY ATTITUDES OR FEELINGS ABOUT THAT UGLY AFFAIR? >>
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GREAT QUESTION. IS TALKING ABOUT THE PBS SERIES ABOUT PROHIBITION. >> NEITHER
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HE NOR WILSON WOULD BE REGARDED AS DRYS. HE STARTED TO TAKE A STEP DURING THE INSURANCE INVESTIGATION. HE SAID IT WAS HIS NURSE. THIS HUMANIZES HIM....
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US TO DIVE INTO MORE OF HIS SUPREME COURT YEARS. WE ARE GOING TO SAY GOOD BYE FOR NOW TO DAVID. WE WILL SEE HIM LATER ON. TO BEGIN OUR DISCUSSION, WE...
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SUTHERLAND. IT BECAME A SENATOR FROM UTAH. THE ONLY SUPREME COURT CATHOLIC. A DEMOCRAT WHO SUPPORTED PRESIDENT HARDING. FROM WYOMING -- 78. 56 YEARS ON...
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GOES ON THE AIR IN AN APPEAL FOR POPULAR SUPPORT FOR HIS PLAN TO REORGANIZE THE FEDERAL JUDICIARY. IT IS HIS SECOND SUCH APPEAL WITHIN SIX DAYS. HE TELLS...
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THE PLAN HAVE SOTS TO SO PREJUDICE AND FEAR BY SAYING I AM SEEKING TO PACK THE SUPREME COURT. WHAT DID THEY MEAN BY "PACKING THE SUPREME COURT"? LET...
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THE COURT PACKING PLAN WAS A VERY SERIOUS THREAT. IT WAS PROPOSED BY AN IMMENSELY POPULAR PRESIDENTS. AS FDR PUT IT "THE PEOPLE ARE WITH ME." HUGHES...
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FOR ANYTIME AND ALSO CONTEMPORARY PERSPECTIVES FROM THE FDR ERA AND THE COURT PACKING HISTORY WE HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT AS WE GROW UP IN THIS COUNTRY....
00:53:11
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INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCES IN THE INTERIM. OBVIOUSLY THE PRESIDENTIAL RUN, BUT ALSO SERVING AS SECRETARY OF STATE, SERVING ON THE SO-CALLED WORLD COURT...
00:53:38
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ABOUT THE COURT OF 1930? >>
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SURE. THE CORE WAS MUCH LESS CONSERVATIVE THAN IT BECAME -- THE COURT WAS MUCH LESS CONSERVATIVE THAN IT BECAME IN 1935 AND 1936. THE COURT DID NOT REALLY...
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LIKE AS A LEADER IN THOSE EARLY DAYS? >> I THINK HE IS
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SOMEONE WHO TOOK TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE PARTS OF THE CHIEF JUSTICE JOB RIGHT AWAY, AND THAT MAKES SENSE. YOU HAVE SOMEONE IN THE MODERN ERA BECOMING CHIEF...
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WAS HE I GREAT BROKER OF OPINION? >> I THINK
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FROM THE BEGINNING, HE WAS SOMEONE HARDER TO TYPECAST THAN THE OTHER JUSTICES ON THE COURT. HE WAS COMING INTO A COURT THAT WAS NOT AS BITTERLY DIVIDED...
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UP ANOTHER POINT. HE LOS TO DISSENT. HE WANTS TO CREATE HARMONY. -- ANDHE LOATHES TO DISSENT. HE WANTED TO ENCOURAGE HARMONY ON THE COURT LIKE MARSHALL,...
00:55:54
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AND THEN WE WILL DELVE MORE DEEPLY INTO THIS. WELCOME TO THE DISCUSSION. >>
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THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. GREAT PROGRAM. WAS HE NOT CONSIDER THE GOD-LIKE TOO BECAUSE HE WOULD TRY TO FIND A MEDIUM GROUND? WAS HE PUSHED BY HUGHES...
00:56:32
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FOR WATCHING. >> I THINK HUGHES WAS
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MUCH MORE OF THE SWING VOTE THAN ROBERTS WAS. ROBERTS TENDED TO VOTE WITH THE CONSERVATIVE BLOC. HUGHES TENDED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON BOTH SIDES....
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ABOUT HIS STYLE? >> I THINK THERE ARE A
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LOT OF SIMILARITIES, AND NOT NECESSARILY THE POINT OF THE WAY THE CONFERENCES WERE CONDUCTED ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. BUT THE CHIEF JUSTICE HUGHES WROTE...
00:58:36
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TALK ABOUT THIS BUILDING. UP UNTIL THIS TIME, THE COURT MET ACROSS THE STREET AT THE UNITED STATES CAPITOL BUILDING. HAVE THE COURT COME TO HAVE THE...
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TO HAVE THEIR OWN BUILDING. THAT IS SYMBOLIC AND INTERESTING. IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE COURT, THEY ARE IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THE BREAD CENTERS, AND...
00:59:40
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TAFT WHO HAD BEEN PRESIDENT AND BECAME CHIEF JUSTICE ARGUED THAT THE COURT NEEDED ITS OWN BUILDING. HE DID LIVE TO SEE AT. I READ THAT THIS WAS VERY CONTROVERSIAL...
00:59:55
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I THINK THAT WAS PARTIALLY BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUSTICES TO ARE TRADITIONALISTS. AND THE DEPRESSION. I DO THINK PART OF IT IS IT WAS A BREAK...
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INCLUDED A PICTURE OF CHARLES EVAN HUGHES. I THINK OVER THE NEXT CALL WE MIGHT GET A SHOT OF THAT SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THE ARCHITECTS DEPICTED HIM. THIS...
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TO STUDY THE SUPREME COURT. I THINK THREE MAJOR LAWS WERE STRUCK DOWN BY UNANIMOUS SUPREME COURT. THAT INCLUDED THE LIBERALS. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD,...
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STAGE FOR US. >> WHAT HAPPENED
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IN THE -- I WANT TO GET BACK TO THIS CALLER POSING QUESTIONS. FDR BECAME FRUSTRATED WITH THE FACT THAT IT LOT OF MEASURES WERE BEING STRUCK DOWN BY THE...
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ON WHAT GROUND? >> ON THE GROUND, FIRST OF
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ALL, EXCEEDING CONGRESS''S POWER UNDER THE COMMERCE CLAUSE. THE COMMERCE CLAUSE IS RELEVANT TODAY. IT IS ALSO THE SOURCE OF A LOT OF LEGISLATION THAT...
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OF HOW ENGAGED IN THE COUNTRY WAS. IT WAS THIS A HUGELY CONTROVERSIAL, OR WAS THIS A WASHINGTON STORY? >> THIS WAS
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NOT A WASHINGTON STORY. IT HELPS TO UNDERSTAND THE STAGE COMPLETELY WHICH IS, THINK ABOUT FDR AT THIS POINT. HE HAS JUST BEEN REELECTED FOR A SECOND...
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GOOD AFTERNOON. IT IS STILL AFTERNOON HERE. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING MY CALL. I PRESUME THIS IS A QUESTION FOR PROFESSOR BERNADETTE MEYLER. I AM CURIOUS...
01:06:47
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WITH THE RELATIONSHIP. THERE IS A VERY INTERESTING STORY. HE INVITED BOOKER T. WASHINGTON TO AN EVENT AND IT WAS A SOMEWHAT CONTROVERSIAL INVITATION....
01:07:34
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COURT PACKING PLANT, CHARLES EVAN HUGHES WAS HOW INVOLVED IN LOBBYING OR SETTING THE STAGE FOR IT BEING DEBATED? >> THERE WAS AS I UNDERSTAND
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THE STORE, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT JUSTICE RAND THAT WAS VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF AND SUGGESTED. THE CHIEF JUSTICE WAS DIRECT IN THE SENSE SCHOOL SAID HE...
01:08:31
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THE'S RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE COURT AND THE LEGISLATURE -- >>
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IT DOES HAPPEN. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS THE PRACTICE BACK IN THE DAY. HAS BECOME THE PRACTICE THAT BASICALLY EVERY YEAR THERE IS ESSENTIALLY A STATE...
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ADD TWO THINGS. SOME PEOPLE MAY CRITICIZE HUGHES AT THE TIME. ONE PART OF HIS LETTER WHICH WAS ALSO CONSULTED, WHAT PART OF THE LETTER SAID HEARING THE...
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MISSOURI. >> THANK YOU FOR TAKING
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MY CALL. THIS IS KIND OF A FOLLOW UP TO THE CORNELL PROFESSOR COMMENT THATROB ROBERTS ALIGNED HIMSELF MORE WITH THE FOUR HORSEMEN WHO WERE THE CONSERVATIVE...
01:10:57
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PERSON WHO KNOWS FOR SURE IS JUSTICE ROBERTS. I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS FROM AN ACADEMIC STANDPOINT WHY COURT PACKING IS SO INTERESTING. THERE...
01:11:35
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DEFINITELY PROTESTS THAT HE WAS NOT INFLUENCED BY POLITICS AT ALL, BUT IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT. >> WE TALKED ABOUT THE
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FACT THAT THIS COURT OPENED IN 1935 -- IS A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. HE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THAT COURTROOM. IS THE COURT ROOM HE OPERATED IN AS CHIEF JUSTICE...
01:11:58
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THERE ARE SOME MINOR DIFFERENCES. THERE ARE CHANGES TO THE SIZE AND SHAPE OF THE BENZ FROM TIME TO TIME OVER THE TIME. >> WE ALSO HAVE
01:12:13
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A HISTORIC PHOTOGRAPH FROM THE SUPREME COURT HISTORICAL SOCIETY. IT WAS SOMEWHAT ILLICITLY TAKEN. IT IS A PHOTOGRAPH FROM INSIDE THE QUARTER WHILE THE...
01:12:56
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REALLY GOOD POINT. IT IS SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO THE SITUATION WE HAVE NOW WITH CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS. WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN HIM WHO ARGUED NEARLY 40...
01:13:53
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IS 10 FROM PITTSBURGH. >> I HAVE A QUESTION
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ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF JUSTICE HUGHES ASCENDING TO THE COURT AS CHIEF JUSTICE IN 1930. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS STORY IS TRUE SO I HOPE YOUR GUESTS CAN...
01:14:45
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HEARD THE STORY. I DO NOT KNOW WHETHER IT IS TRUE. I HEARD DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE STORY. HE MAY HAVE A PERSPECTIVE AS TO THE TRUTH OF THAT. I WILL...
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PEOPLE DID THINK SO AT THE TIME, BUT THEY WERE PROBABLY MISLED. JUST ONE MORE ADDENDUM ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE MAY HAVE HAD AT VERSIONS TO THE JOB EARLIER,...
01:16:52
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THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE JUSTICE IS STAYING ON UNTIL THEY ARE 80, 90 YEARS OLD. THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT IN COMMON WITH...
01:17:53
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YOUR QUESTION. HE TALKS ABOUT SUPREME COURT JUSTICE IS NOT KNOWING MUCH ABOUT THE REST OF US IN SOCIETY. >> I THINK THIS
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IS PART OF WHAT MOTIVATED FDR'S COURT PACKING PLANT. PART OF WHAT HE WAS SAYING IS THE OLDER JUSTICES HAD ANTIQUATED NOTIONS ABOUT SOCIETY THAT NEEDED...
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I THINK THAT IS RIGHT. THERE HAVE BEEN IDEAS THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD NEED TERM LIMITS, A RETIREMENT AGE, SOME WAY OF MAKING THE JUSTICES MORE RESPONSIVE...
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ARE TWO VERY LARGE CONFERENCE ROOMS USED OFTEN FOR PUBLIC EVENTS. THERE ARE PORTRAITS OF EACH OF THE CHIEF JUSTICES WHO HAVE SERVED. WE ARE GOING TO SHOW...
01:19:35
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NUMBER OF OPINIONS. ONE OPINION HE IS SIGNIFICANT AND I THINK THIS NOT DISCUSS THIS BAILEY VS. ALABAMA. THIS IS AN OPINION HE ISSUED EARLY ON WHEN HE...
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HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? >> I THINK THOSE
01:21:45
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ARE GREAT OPINIONS TO HIGHLIGHT. THE GREAT THING IS, HE WAS THE CHIEF JUSTICE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. HE WROTE MORE THAN HIS FAIR SHARE OF THE OPINIONS....
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HI. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOUR PANEL, WITH BOTH CHARLES EVAN HUGHES AND FDR BEING A PART OF THE ARISTOCRATIC ELITE, BOTH WERE PROGRESSIVE GOVERNORS, ONE...
01:24:28
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IN FDR ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. I THINK THE COURT PACKING SCHEME AND THE VARIOUS TENSIONS OVER THE RELATIONS BETWEEN THE COURT AND PRESIDENT AT THAT POINT...
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WOULD ADD, HE REALLY WAS NOT FROM QUITE THE SAME ARISTOCRATIC ROOTS AS ROOSEVELT'S. HIS UP -- WAS EXCEPTIONAL FROM AN EDUCATION STANDPOINT. HIS PARENTS...
01:25:49
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THE NEXT CALL IS FROM STOCKTON, CALIFORNIA. >> MY QUESTION WAS,
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HE SAID THAT SUPREME COURT JUSTICE HUGHES -- WAS HE STILL THE CHIEF JUSTICE IN 1948 OR DID HE RETIRE BEFORE HIS DEATH WHICH WOULD HAVE MADE HIM AROUND...
01:26:13
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VERY MUCH. WHEN DID HE RETIRE FROM THE COURT? >>
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1941. >> EXACTLY. HE STEPPED DOWN WHEN HE STILL HAD A FEW YEARS LEFT. I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT UNINTENTIONAL. HE HAD DONE HIS...
01:27:37
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REJECTED A LOT OF HUGHES' PHILOSOPHY AND WAS MUCH MORE LIBERAL. HE RESPECTED HIM AS AN INTELLECT. THIS GOES BACK TO RACING MEET, ALONG A LOT. >> I NEED...
01:27:59
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HAVE DESCRIBED HIS FORMIDABLE INTELLECT. IF YOU COULD TIME TRAVEL, WOULD YOU WANT TO ARGUE A CASE IN FRONT OF HIS COURT? >> I
01:28:07
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THINK IT WOULD BE FASCINATING. SOME OF THE OTHER JUSTICES ON THE COURT OR KIND OF DIFFICULT PERSONALITIES FROM THE BENCH. I AM NOT SURE IT WOULD BE ALL...
01:28:41
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8000 PETITIONS TO BE HEARD. THEY HEAR ABOUT ONE OUT OF 100. WHAT WAS THE WORKLOAD OF THE COURT BACK THEN? >> IT WAS NOT
01:28:50
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THAT MANY MORE CASES THEY WERE HEARING, BUT THE PETITIONS WERE MUCH LOWER. WHEN ROOSEVELT PROPOSED THE COURT PACKING SCHEME, THERE WERE ONLY 100 SOMETHING...
01:29:22
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ARE GENERALLY ONE HOUR TODAY. WHAT WERE THEY AT THE TIME? >> I THINK THERE WERE
01:29:28
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TYPICALLY MORE CONSTRAINED. IN THE EARLY DAYS, ARGUMENTS WOULD GO ON FOR DAYS. I ALSO THINK JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THE VERY GOOD POINT THAT WAS MADE,...
01:30:13
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HOUR LEFT TO GO IN OUR TWO OUR LOOK OF "THE CONTENDERS"." IT WAS A CLOSE ELECTION AGAINST WOODROW WILSON WHO WAS VYING FOR HIS SECOND TERM. THEN CHARLES...
01:30:48
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HAVE A HAPPY AND HEALTHY BABY. I TRY TO CATCH THE SHOW EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT. MY QUESTION IS -- JUSTICE USED SOUNDS LIKE A MAN THAT WAS FOR PROGRESS IN....
01:31:16
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IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING QUESTION ABOUT HIS ATTITUDE TOWARD WOMEN. WE HEARD EARLIER HE WAS IN QUESTION -- WE HEARD EARLIER HE WAS IN FAVOR OF WOMEN'S...
01:32:26
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COLUMBIA, TENNESSEE. >>
01:32:31
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THANK YOU FOR A WONDERFUL PROGRAM. I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE OPINION FROM YOUR PANEL AS TO WHAT YOU BELIEVE CHARLES EVANS HUGHES MIGHT MAKE POLITICALLY AND...
01:32:45
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CAN YOU PROJECT? >>
01:32:49
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EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN A PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT IS GOING ON AT WALL STREET. I DO THINK CHARLES EVAN HUGHES WAS IN SOME RESPECTS ONE OF THE GREAT EARLY REFORMERS....
01:33:43
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WAS ONE OF THE FIRST CONTROVERSIAL APPOINTMENTS OF CHIEF JUSTICE. I READ AS FAR AS THE TWO SIDES WERE CONCERNED HE WOULD BE TOO PRO-BUSINESS. >>
01:33:54
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THIS IS A SOMEWHAT PARADOXICAL CONCERN. GIVEN HIS EARLIER TERM ON THE COURT AND ALSO HIS TIME AS GOVERNOR, HE WAS VERY REFORM MINDED. I THINK OF HIM...
01:34:43
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WILL TAKE A CALL FROM TOLEDO AND THAT WE HAVE A CLIP ABOUT CHARLES EVAN HUGHES AND RACE. >> THANK
01:34:51
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YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. THIS PARTICULAR QUESTION IS PROBABLY DIRECTED TOWARD PAUL CLEMENT. SIR, HOW YOU FEEL MR. HUGHES WOULD HAVE RESPONDED TO UNELECTED...
01:35:27
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YOU. >> THAT
01:35:31
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IS A GREAT QUESTION. I THINK CHIEF JUSTICE USE WOULD HAVE HAD THE ONES TO USE AND NOT SOMETHING WHERE HE WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, HE WOULD BE HOSTILE TO...
01:36:31
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IS EXACTLY RIGHT. HE SAYS CONGRESS HAS THE LAST WORD. INTERNATIONAL LAW CAN FILL IN GAPS IN CERTAIN RESPECTS. I ALSO THINK HE WAS A HEAD OF HIS TIME...
01:36:57
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WHO HAVE ASKED ABOUT CHARLES EVAN HUGHES AND RACE. WE ARE GOING TO RETURN TO HIS LAW FIRM STILL EXISTING IN NEW YORK CITY FOR A STORY FROM HIS AUTOBIOGRAPHY....
01:37:15
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HUGHES CONFERENCE CENTER, WE TRY TO SELECT THINGS THAT WOULD REFLECT IMPORTANT STAGES OF HIS LIFE. WE HAVE COLLECTED A NUMBER OF THINGS INCLUDING ORIGINAL...
01:38:22
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MINUTES LEFT TALKING ABOUT CHARLES EVAN HUGHES. WE HAVE BROUGHT BACK ONE OF OUR FIRST GUEST WHO IS JOINING US ON THE PLAZA OF THE SUPREME COURT. DAVID...
01:38:50
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NOT ONLY ONE OF THE GREAT CHIEF JUSTICES, HE IS REGARDED AS ONE OF THE GREAT SECRETARY OF STATE. HE IS REGARDED AS ONE OF THE TOP THREE. WHAT HE DOES...
01:41:45
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IS CHARLIE. >> WHAT A WONDERFUL
01:41:51
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SERIES AND THANK GOODNESS FOR C-SPAN. WHO WAS THE PERSON IN THE 1916 ELECTION ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE THAT RAN AGAINST HUGHES? I HAD HEARD THAT IF THE...
01:42:17
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WERE SENATOR FAIRBANKS WHO HAD BEEN A VICE PRESIDENT UNDER ROOSEVELT, SENATOR BURTON OF OHIO, THE CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE -- I WOULD HESITATE TO SAY...
01:43:06
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GUESTS, WE WILL GO ONE AT A TIME. IT IS TIME TO WRAP THIS CONVERSATION UP AND THINK ABOUT CHARLES EVAN HUGHES' LEGACY. HOW THE WORLD MIGHT HAVE BEEN...
01:43:28
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EVENING. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE PANELISTS TO PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THE HUGHES DECIDED TO DISREGARD THE JUDICIAL PRECEDENTS, PARTICULARLY THE RULING IN...
01:44:08
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I WILL GIVE IT A TRY. THERE IS A WAY TO RECONCILE THOSE FEELINGS. ANOTHER CALLER POINTED OUT EARLIER. IT IS EASY TO THINK ABOUT DECISIONS AS THE SAME...
01:45:51
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I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF HUGHES'LEGACY IS THAT BASICALLY THE HUGHES COURTS CREATED THE MODERN COMMERCE POWER ALLOWING FOR THE COMMERCE POWER...
01:46:41
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HELLO, CHARLES. >> I WANT TO THANK
01:46:44
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YOU FOR YOUR RECORD OF PUBLIC SERVICE. THE QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK WAS ABOUT CHIEF JUSTICE HUGHES ATTITUDE ABOUT ORAL ARGUMENT. HE BELIEVED IT SHOULD...
01:47:03
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USE OF ORAL ARGUMENT, I THINK. HE UNDERSTOOD BOTH THE VIRTUES OF ASKING QUESTIONS AND ALSO THE VIRTUES OF HAVING LAWYERS HAVE BEEN OF -- AMPLE OPPORTUNITY...
01:47:58
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D.C. WELCOME TO OUR DISCUSSION. >> MY QUESTION IS --
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I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PANEL CAN MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THE JUSTICE'S VIEW OF THAT TIME BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE COURT AT THAT...
01:48:36
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IN TIME WHEN THE NOTION OF A WALL OF SEPARATION WAS COMING INTOMUCH MORE PREVALENT. THE HUGHES COURTS LOOK AT RELIGION MORE GENERALLY. THE ESTABLISHMENT...
01:49:15
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YOU TAKE THE QUESTION ABOUT IT HUGHES' LEGACY? >> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT
01:49:22
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OF HOW HE STOPPED THE COURT PACKING SCHEME, HOW THE REGULATORY NATURE OF DECISIONS CHANGED. HOW THE BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BACK TOGETHER AGAIN. I THINK...
01:50:08
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WITH HIM? >> YES. I THINK AFTER HE LEFT THE SECRETARY OF STATESHIP, I THINK SOMEONE SAID HE WAS OUR FIRST CITIZENS. I THINK THAT IS A WONDERFUL THING...
01:51:22
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LEFT AND OUR PROGRAM. WE HAVE TIME FOR A COUPLE MORE CALLS. THE ME ASK THIS IN QUESTION OF YOU. >> I WOULD SAY THERE ARE
01:51:30
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TWO ASPECTS OF IT. I AM APPROACHING GET MORE FROM THE LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN TOUCHED ON IS THE COMMERCE CLAUSE JURISPRUDENCE. I THINK...
01:53:45
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YOU ARE ON. >> WHEN THIS CHIEF
01:53:47
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JUSTICE HUGHES GET DONE BEEN ON THE COURT? >>
01:53:51
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1941. >> WAS HE THE CHIEF
01:53:58
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JUSTICE WHEN KOMATSU VS COME ASA WAS WRITTEN? >>
01:54:00
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NO, HE WAS NOT. "I WAS JUST CURIOUS. >> HE WAS OFF THE COURT
01:54:09
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AT THAT POINT. >> HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN ABOUT
01:54:12
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HIS FINAL YEARS? HE RESIGNED FROM THE COURT AS WE JUST SAID IN 1941 AND LIVES THE NEXT FIVE OR SIX YEARS AND IT DIES AT THE AGE OF 86. WHAT WERE HIS...
01:54:29
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WHEN HE GOES ON TO THE COURT AND VERY OLD WHEN HE GETS OFF. TWO YEARS BEFORE HE GETS OFF THE COURT HE GETS A REAL SCARE. IT IS ALMOST LIKE A STROKE. ...
01:56:01
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HAVE ABOUT FOUR MINUTES LEFT. WE HAVE A CLIP OF HIM SWEARING IN FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT. >> DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR
01:56:20
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TO FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY TO SERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE...
01:56:40
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DELANO ROOSEVELT DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. I WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY PRESERVE,...
01:57:04
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SWEARING IN FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT. HIS LEGACY, ESPECIALLY DURING THE COURT PACKING ERA, IS SOMETHING WE HAVE DISCUSSED. >> I WANT TO GO BACK AND
01:57:21
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TALK ABOUT THE 1916 ELECTION. IF HE HAD ONE THAT AND WOODROW WILSON HAD NOT WON A SECOND TERM, HOW WOULD THE WORLD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT? >> THAT IS A
01:57:36
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VERY CONSEQUENTIAL QUESTION. IT IS HARD TO RECONSTRUCT HOW IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO DIFFERENT IN SOME CRITICAL FACTOR HAD NOT TAKEN PLACE. WILSON WAS A...
01:58:22
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WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS REGARDING ENTRY INTO WORLD WAR I? >> I
01:58:29
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THINK THE EXIT FROM WORLD WAR I IS WERE THE CHANGE WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PEACE PROCESS. WOODROW WILSON BOXES THAT TREMENDOUSLY....
01:59:27
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OWN BOOK, WHAT IS ONE OF THE BEST BOOKS ON THIS ERA THAT YOU CAN RECOMMEND IT? >> CERTAINLY ON HUGHES,
01:59:35
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THE II VOLUME BIOGRAPHY IS A TERRIFIC BOOK. THAT IS THE BOOK IF YOU WANT TO KNOW AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT MR. HUGHES. >> HE BROUGHT A BOOK
01:59:47
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OF HIS LETTERS I UNDERSTAND IT? >> IT
01:59:50
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IS ACTUALLY A COLLECTION OF SIX DIFFERENT LECTURES THAT HE GAVE AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY. IT IS REALLY A UNIQUE INSIGHT. HERE IS RUMINATIONS ABOUT THE...
02:00:12
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HIGHLY READABLE? >> A VERY
02:00:14
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HIGHLY READABLE. IT IS FASCINATING HOW CONTEMPORARY A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION IS. >> LAST QUESTION FOR
02:00:21
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YOU. WHEN FIRST-YEAR LAW STUDENTS COME CAN, WHAT IS THE ONE THING YOU WANT THEM TO KNOW ABOUT IT? >> I WANT THEM TO KNOW
02:00:29
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ABOUT THE TIME AND IF HE HAD BEEN POLITICAL OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AND WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE. >> I WANT TO SAY
02:00:36
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THANK YOU TO OUR THREE GUESTS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE TONIGHT ON OUR PROGRAM. FROM OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME WITH US...

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