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ON LEGALIZING MARIJUANA WITH FORMER DRUG ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND DRUG REFORM ACTIVISTS. ONE OF THE PANELIST, DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE JARED POLIS...
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Robbins, Rohn K. - Attorney, Vail
MICROPHONE. SO WHEN WE GET TO -- AND I'M SERIOUS, WHEN WE GET TO THAT PART OF THE PROGRAM IF SOMEONE HAS A QUESTION, IF YOU'RE A LITTLE SLOTHFUL...
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Polis, Jared - U.S. Representative, [D] Colorado
MANY OF YOU THINK THAT THE DRUG WAR IS WORKING? THAT WE'RE WINNING THE DRUG WAR? >> WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE. FOUR PEOPLE. HOW MANY OF YOU THINK WE'RE LOSING...
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| 00:12:34 |
Robbins, Rohn K. - Attorney, Vail
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS COLORADO'S 37th ATTORNEY GENERAL JOHN SUTHERS. HE'S BEEN RECOGNIZED BY THE COLORADO DRUG INVESTIGATORS ASSOCIATION FOR HIS DEDICATION...
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Suthers, John W. - Attorney General
AGAIN BE VOTING ON THE LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA, AND MY HOPE IS THAT THE VOTERS WILL BE AS WELL INFORMED AS POSSIBLE ABOUT THE VARIOUS ISSUES INVOLVED....
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Robbins, Rohn K. - Attorney, Vail
STONE" AS, QUOTE, THE POINTMAN FOR DRUG POLICY REFORM EFFORT, HE IS ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED AND HIGH-PROFILE CRITICS AND COMMENTATORS ON U.S. AND...
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| 00:24:35 |
Nadelmann, Ethan A. - Founder and Executive Director
VERY LIKELY OR QUITE POSSIBLY GOING BECOME THE FIRST STATE IN THE TOUZ CHOOSE TO END MARIJUANA PROHIBITION COME THE ELECTION NEXT YEAR. SO, THANK YOU,...
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| 00:35:55 |
Robbins, Rohn K. - Attorney, Vail
PANELIST IS ANTHONY COALSON WHO RECENTLY RETIRED FROM THE DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION WHERE HE WAS SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE OF THE DEA'S TUCSON DISTRICT...
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Coulson, Anthony - Assistant Special Agent in Charge
FROM 28 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE ON THE STREETS OF A NUMBER OF PLACES AROUND THE THE WORLD IN THE UNITED STATES. AND MUCH THAT DR. NADELMAN HAS SAID I AGREE...
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| 00:49:55 |
Robbins, Rohn K. - Attorney, Vail
DEBATE WHICH I HOPE TO DIRECT IN SOME MEANINGFUL WAY. THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE AUDIENCE FOR ABOUT 20 MINUTES AFTER THAT. THE FIRST THING I NEED...
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| 00:51:11 |
Suthers, John W. - Attorney General
IS INCREASING ACTUALLY ALCOHOL USEUNDER AGED ALCOHOL USE HAS BEEN DECREASING. ONE OF THE OTHER STUDIES I BROUGHT WITH ME HERE IS ONE THAT HAS RECENTLY...
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| 00:52:45 |
Nadelmann, Ethan A. - Founder and Executive Director
USE MARIJUANA AND COCAINE USED MILK FIRST. THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO USE MARIJUANA NEVER GET INVOLVED WITH COCAINE OR HEROIN OR USE IT. YOU...
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| 00:54:35 |
Polis, Jared - U.S. Representative, [D] Colorado
UP. WHAT'S POSSIBLE IS THAT HONESTY HAS GONE UP. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT OCCURRED. USE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE GONE UP. PEOPLE ARE STILL USING MARIJUANA...
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| 00:55:59 |
Suthers, John W. - Attorney General
LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA. THEY ARE OPPOSED BECAUSE OF THEIR EXPERIENCE AS MARIJUANA USERS, PROGRESSING ONTO OTHER DRUGS. I ALSO WANT YOU FOLKS TO...
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| 00:56:54 |
Nadelmann, Ethan A. - Founder and Executive Director
AGAINST THE WAR ON DRUGS WHO HAVE SEEN THE WORST DRUG ADDICTION CAN DO. THEY ARE ON SIDE WITH US AND SUPPORTING LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA, RESPONSIBLE...
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| 00:58:19 |
Suthers, John W. - Attorney General
ARE ISSUANCE OF A SUMMONS FOR A $100 FINE FOR A PETTY OFFENSE. THERE ARE .3% OF THE PRISON POPULATION IN COLORADO THAT'S THERE FOR POSSESSION OR USE...
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Polis, Jared - U.S. Representative, [D] Colorado
WHY WE SHOULD DO THIS SOMEBODY HAS QUOTED WHAT THE METH ADDICTS THINK TO ME. WELL, THE METH ADDICTS THINK THIS. I'M GOING TO DISCOUNT WHAT METH ADDICTS...
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Suthers, John W. - Attorney General
ARE THERE AT COURT REFERRAL. THEY DID NOT WALK IN OFF THE STREETS. PART OF THE BASIS OF THIS IS THAT OUR DRUG ADDICTS RESULT FROM LEGALIZATION. ...
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| 01:00:53 |
Nadelmann, Ethan A. - Founder and Executive Director
RUN METHADONE PROGRAMS SEEKING HELP. IF THE PROGRAMS ARE WORTH SOMETHING PEOPLE DO SHOW UP. MORE THAN THAT, MOST UPPER AND MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE GO...
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| 01:01:32 |
Robbins, Rohn K. - Attorney, Vail
WITH MUCH OF WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE HAS TO SAY BUT I COME TO A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED WHAT HALF OF THE PANEL BELIEVES IS A PROBLEM AND...
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| 01:02:12 |
Coulson, Anthony - Assistant Special Agent in Charge
I MEAN, IN ARIZONA YOU HAVE DRUG COURTS IN THE PHOENIX METRO AREA. YOU HAVE DRUG COURTS IN TUCSON. BUT THERE ARE NO DRUG COURTS IN THE OUT COUNTIES,...
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| 01:03:42 |
Nadelmann, Ethan A. - Founder and Executive Director
SENT TO A HEALTH BOARD. THERE IS NO DRUG TESTING. PEOPLE ARE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEAL WITH DRUG PROBLEMS WITHOUT THE COERCION OF THE CRIMINAL...
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Suthers, John W. - Attorney General
THEY HAVE A DRUG PROBLEM THAT THE SYSTEM IS TRYING TO DEAL WITH. >> WE DON'T DISAGREE. TO THE EXTENT THOSE PEOPLE WOULD BE SENT TO JAIL OR PRISON FOR...
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Nadelmann, Ethan A. - Founder and Executive Director
MOST DRUG COURTS AROUND THE COUNTRY, IT'S NOT AN APPROPRIATE WAY OF DOING TREATMENT. IT'S NOT THE APPROPRIATE POLICY. >> I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH...
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Coulson, Anthony - Assistant Special Agent in Charge
TEN OUNCES OR ANYTHING. THEY ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEMS, THAT HAVE MAJOR CRIMES BEHIND THEM. >> TONY, YOU'RE WRONG. THE EVIDENCE IS OUT...
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| 01:06:34 |
Suthers, John W. - Attorney General
HUMOROUS THAT THE LEGAL PROPONENTS USED TO CITE GREAT BRITAIN, THEN SWITZERLAND, THEN HOLLAND. NOW WE ARE TO PORTUGAL. FOLKS, THERE IS A LOT OF COUNTER...
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Nadelmann, Ethan A. - Founder and Executive Director
HIV, HEPATITIS C, CRIMINALITY IN DRUGS, SO THOSE PLACES ARE DOING BETTER THAN WE ARE. >> EVERY SINGLE DRUG CATEGORY OF USE IN PORTUGAL HAS RISEN. ...
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Suthers, John W. - Attorney General
ON A THREE-WEEK VISIT TO THE COUNTRY. >> LOOK AT THE BRITISH JOURNAL OF CRIMINOLOGY. MUCH MORE ACADEMIC EFFORT IN LATE 2010 AND THE EVIDENCE IS LAID...
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Robbins, Rohn K. - Attorney, Vail
AN AFFIRMATIVE WAY. IT COULD BE ASKED IN A NEGATIVE WAY. THIS IS TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND MR. COLSON. IS THE QUESTION ONE OF PROTECTION OF THE INDIVIDUAL...
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Suthers, John W. - Attorney General
THE PUBLIC PRESSURE -- AND I LIVED THROUGH THIS. I STARTED AS A PROSECUTOR WHEN THE PENALTY FOR DRUNK DRIVING WAS $150 FINE. I SAW WHEN THE PUBLIC...
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| 01:09:32 |
Robbins, Rohn K. - Attorney, Vail
TO BACK AWAY FROM THE PURSUING CASES AGAINST MEDICAL MARIJUANA PATIENTS. HOWEVER, VARIOUS UNITED STATES ATTORNEYS INCLUDING JOHN WALSH IN THE DISTRICT...
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| 01:10:09 |
Nadelmann, Ethan A. - Founder and Executive Director
BASICALLY SAID IF SOMETHING IS OPERATING LEGALLY UNDER STATE LAW, WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET INVOLVED. THAT WAS THE MESSAGE. I THINK THEY FELT AS OF...
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| 01:11:45 |
Robbins, Rohn K. - Attorney, Vail
PUBLIC OFFICIALS COULD BE PROSECUTED FOR SUPPORTING MEDICAL MARIJUANA. >> I HAVE A BIRD'S EYE VIEW ON THIS. YOU'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT HAPPENED
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| 01:11:57 |
Suthers, John W. - Attorney General
HERE. THE INITIAL MEMO CAME ABOUT FRANKLY AS A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN THE CAMPAIGN. THE PRESIDENT AGREED THAT IF PEOPLE ARE STRICTLY COMPLYING WITH STATE...
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| 01:13:27 |
Nadelmann, Ethan A. - Founder and Executive Director
STATE YOU HAVE THE GOVERNOR WHO WENT TO LAW SCHOOL OR KINDERGARTEN OR SOMETHING WITH THE U.S. ATTORNEY ORCHESTRATING THIS THING. IN ARIZONA THERE IS...
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| 01:14:08 |
Polis, Jared - U.S. Representative, [D] Colorado
ENFORCEMENT ACTION. MORE OF A CAPABILITY. THERE IS KNIGHTER THE ABILITY NOR THE POLITICAL WILL FOR A MASS ENFORCEMENT ACTION. >> HAVING GONE TO...
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| 01:14:25 |
Robbins, Rohn K. - Attorney, Vail
COLSON WROTE ABOUT TODAY IN THE VAIL DAILY. THAT IS THAT IT IS SORT OF AN ACCEPTED THAT THE WAR ON DRUGS WHICH HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR IN THE RANGE...
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Coulson, Anthony - Assistant Special Agent in Charge
USE, SUBSTANCE ABUSE FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT ISSUE TO A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. THAT'S A BIG ISSUE. THAT ISSUE IS ABOUT INVESTING AND GETTING THE MESSAGE...
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| 01:17:15 |
Robbins, Rohn K. - Attorney, Vail
AROUND THE LINE, SICKOR HORSESHOE AND ASK WHAT YOU CAN AGREE ON. >> I AGREE WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT LEGALIZATION MAKES MORE SENSE THAN
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| 01:17:25 |
Polis, Jared - U.S. Representative, [D] Colorado
THE MEDICALZATION. IT'S AN ODD ASSOCIATION TO CONVEY THE THEORETICAL AND LIMITED MEDICINAL IMPACT TO SOMEHOW SAY MARIJUANA IS GOOD FOR YOU. IT'S CLEARLY...
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Suthers, John W. - Attorney General
LAW ENFORCEMENT ISN'T THE ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM. IT CLEARLY IS NOT. WE HAVE TO INCREASE EFFORTS AT PREVENTION. WE HAVE TO GET BETTER IN TREATMENT AND...
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| 01:19:23 |
Nadelmann, Ethan A. - Founder and Executive Director
NETHERLANDS WHERE ANYBODY OVER 18 CAN GO TO A COFFEE SHOP AND GET MEDICAL MARIJUANA THEY HAVE A DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. IT'S FOR MARIJUANA FOR NO MOLDS,...
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| 01:20:13 |
Coulson, Anthony - Assistant Special Agent in Charge
THESE TOPICS. I WOULD LIKE TO AGREE THAT WE NEED MORE INDEPENDENT STUDIES NOT FUNDED BY EITHER THE PRO LEGALIZATION OR THE PRO MEDICAL MARIJUANA...
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HERE. >> I'M FROM MEXICO. I WAS VERY OFFENDED BY THE COMMENT ABOUT THE HERITAGE YOU MADE. LAST MONTH WE HAD OVER 2 MILLION MEXICANS PEACEFULLY PROTESTING...
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| 01:23:06 |
Coulson, Anthony - Assistant Special Agent in Charge
UP. THEY ARE BEING VICTIMIZED BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS WAS INHERITED FROM THE COLONIAL MASTERS. THIS CAME FROM ONE OF YOUR MAJOR POLITICIANS IN...
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| 01:23:56 |
Suthers, John W. - Attorney General
DYNAMIC. >> TRAIN INVESTIGATORS IN MEXICO BECAUSE TO THEIR CREDIT THEY ARE MOVING TO A SYSTEM OF JUSTICE FROM THE CURRENT SYSTEM WHICH IS GROSSLY CORRUPT....
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| 01:25:25 |
Nadelmann, Ethan A. - Founder and Executive Director
OTHER BUSINESSES. THEY ARE GOING INTO OTHER BUSINESSES ALREADY AND ANYWAY WHETHER IT'S ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OR LEGAL ACTIVITIES. THE NUMBER ONE THING...
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Suthers, John W. - Attorney General
SCAMMING THE SYSTEM. I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A BAD IDEA WHEN WE HAD THE SYSTEM SET UP BY AMENDMENT 20 THAT YOU COULD GROW YOUR OWN OR A CAREGIVER COULD...
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| 01:33:15 |
Nadelmann, Ethan A. - Founder and Executive Director
OR NAUSEA. MARINOL IS JUST AS LIKELY OR MORE LIKELY TO GET YOU VERY, VERY HIGH. IT IS NO LESS HIGH THAN SMOKING IS. AND IF YOU ARE SMOKING THROUGH A...
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| 01:36:23 |
Polis, Jared - U.S. Representative, [D] Colorado
SOMETHING LIKE THAT IT IS FAR MORE MILD THAN MANY OF THE STRONG AND ADDICTIVE PRESCRIPTION PRODUCTS. IF SOMETHING MILDER LIKE MARIJUANA WORKS, IF...
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| 01:39:28 |
Coulson, Anthony - Assistant Special Agent in Charge
IN DECIDING WHAT SOMEONE IS ENTITLED TO IN TERMS OF TREATMENT AND NOT BASED IN THIS CASE ON THE SCIENCE OF WHAT TREATMENT SHOULD BE. BUT BEFORE WE...
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| 01:40:12 |
Nadelmann, Ethan A. - Founder and Executive Director
DEVOTING TENS OF MILLIONS TO THE DRUG WAR WE HAVE TO MOVE TO ADEQUATE ACCESS TO TREATMENT, SENSIBLE SCIENCE-BASED PREVENTION. IT'S NOT LIKE -- >>...
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| 01:40:58 |
Suthers, John W. - Attorney General
IMPACT ON OUR INCARCERATION RATES BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO PRISON IN COLORADO. THAT'S TRUE. >> IF I COULD SAY I THINK ONE OF THE PROBLEMS...
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| 01:41:12 |
Nadelmann, Ethan A. - Founder and Executive Director
WITH DRUG MISUSE. NOT EVERYBODY WHO SMOKES MARIJUANA OR USES OTHER DRUGS IS ABUSING DRUGS. JOHN, YOU MADE A FLAWED ARGUMENT EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION....
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| 01:42:41 |
Robbins, Rohn K. - Attorney, Vail
WE ARE OUT OF TIME. WITH ANY INTERESTING TOPIC WE COULD GO ON FOR HOURS. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE AUDIENCE...
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