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SERVED AS DEPUTY ASSISTANT TO PRESIDENT NIXON FROM 1969 TO 1973. IN THAT TIME, HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING PRESIDENT NIXON WITH BRIEFING PAPERS....
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| 00:00:44 |
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LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE TAPING SYSTEM. >> THE
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| 00:00:48 |
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TAPING SYSTEM. >>
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| 00:00:50 |
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THE TAPING SYSTEM. WHEN WERE YOU ASKED FOR THE -- WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER OF THE -- >> YOU
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| 00:00:55 |
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KNOW, THE DATES, I COULD LOOK UP THE DATE. WE ALL COULD. IT WAS FEBRUARY OF '71. I THINK WHEN I TESTIFIED BEFORE THE CONGRESS, BEFORE THE WATER ...
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| 00:01:25 |
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THAT. WHEN WE INTERVIEWED LARRY HIGBY, HE SAID THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO DO IT BRIEFLY AND IT DIDN'T WORK OUT. THEN THE FULL SYSTEM -- SO IS IT POSSIBLE...
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| 00:01:45 |
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IS CONFUSED WITH THE GUYS BUGGING THE NATIONAL COMMITTEE. THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT ON MAY 18, PRIOR TO JUNE 17. >> WE WERE TALKING
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| 00:01:53 |
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ABOUT THE WHITE HOUSE TELEPHONE -- TV SYSTEM -- >> NOT TO
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| 00:01:57 |
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MY KNOWLEDGE. AS SOON AS I GOT THAT ORDER, WHENEVER IT WAS, YES, I HEARD IT INITIALLY FROM LARRY HIGBY. HE SAID JUST, BOB, WANT YOU TO PUT IN TAPING...
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| 00:03:51 |
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OUT. SO HE CAME OUT, AND I DID. FIRST QUESTION I HAD WAS, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT WHO PUTS IT IN. HE SAID, I DON'T CARE. AS LONG AS THE MILITARY...
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| 00:04:55 |
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WAYNE. >>
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| 00:04:56 |
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WAYNE HAYS. I SAID, HI, I'M COLONEL BUTTERFIELD. I NEVER WORE A UNIFORM. PULLED HIS HAND AWAY, SPUN AROUND AND EMBARRASSED HE HAD EVEN SPOKEN TO ME....
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| 00:05:24 |
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WAS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE MILITARY? >> YES, HE SAID, DON'T HAVE
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| 00:05:27 |
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THE GD MILITARY DO IT. ALSO, THERE IS A POINT TO THAT TOO, APART FROM HIS DISDANE. WHICH I KNOW EXISTED AND I WOULDN'T SAY THAT IF I DIDN'T. MILITARY...
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| 00:07:42 |
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INHIBITED. >> HE WAS NOT IN
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| 00:07:44 |
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THE LEAST INHIBITED. I USE TO SIT IN THERE A LOT AND HEAR A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON. I WAS VERY CONSCIOUS OF THEM ALL THE TIME. I DEALT WITH THEM NOW...
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| 00:08:23 |
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BEHALF OF THE PRESIDENT ASKED YOU TO PUT THEM IN, INITIALLY JUST FOR THE OVAL OFFICE AND CABINET
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| 00:08:31 |
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ROOM? >> YEAH. TO GET THAT RIGHT, I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT TOO. IT WAS THE OVAL OFFICE AND THE OVAL OFFICE TELEPHONE. FOR SURE. AND...
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| 00:09:56 |
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YEAH. >> WHEN WE
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| 00:10:01 |
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WERE TALKING OFFLINE, HE SAID, THE REASON IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT YOU TAKE IT OUT WAS THAT YOU HAD THIS PROBLEM WITH FOREIGN -- WAS IT FOREIGN -- >> THAT'S...
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| 00:10:07 |
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ME. NO FOREIGN DIGNITARIES USING IT. ARE WE GOING IT PUT IT IN, TAKE IT OUT. HOW OFF THEN IS IT USED? WE WOULD PUT IT IN AND TAKE IT OUT ALL THE TIME....
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| 00:21:08 |
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GUY. I'M A BIG OATH GUY BUT I MEAN, I HAD MORE RESPECT FOR JUST TELLING THE TRUTH THAN I DO FOR, IF YOU'RE GOING TO -- IF A PERSON IS GOING TO LIE,...
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| 00:27:48 |
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SESSION, WHO DID YOU TELL FIRST THAT THIS HAS COME UP IN THE INTERVIEW? >> I WENT BACK TO
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| 00:27:57 |
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THE FAA AND WORKED. I TOLD MY WIFE. I DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY AT THE FAA. I GUESS MY DRIVER PICKED ME UP AND I WENT BACK TO THE FAA, WORKED FOR A WHILE....
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| 00:46:55 |
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LESLIE STALL. >> LESLIE
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| 00:46:58 |
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STAHL. I ALWAYS ADD CRUSH ON HER. I MAY HAVE MADE THAT UP. AND, AND BOYS WITH THEIR GIRL FRIENDS ON THEIR SHOULDERS. JAM-PACKED. THAT ROOM WAS PACKED....
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| 00:50:37 |
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THEY CHOSE WHERE THE MICROPHONES WOULD
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| 00:50:39 |
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BE? >> UH-HUH. IN FACT, THEY DID ALL OF THAT ON THEIR OWN WHILE THE PRESIDENT WAS AWAY. THE VERY NEXT WEEK FROM THE TIME HADDERMAN AND HIGBY TOLD ME...
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| 00:52:28 |
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YOU THE ONE WHO PRESSED THE BUTTON IN THE CABINET ROOM -- WHO WOULD PRESS THE BUTTON? >> YEAH, YEAH,
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| 00:52:35 |
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AS YOU KNOW, IN THE CABINET ROOM, VOICE ACTIVATED BASED ON THE LOCATOR SYSTEM. IN THE SECRET SERVICE LOCATOR SYSTEM -- ONLY A FEW PEOPLE HAD THAT. I...
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| 00:54:01 |
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TURN THE SYSTEM ON? SO THAT WHEN HE WOULD COME INTO A ROOM THE VOICE-ACTIVATED SYSTEM WOULD BE ON? >>
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| 00:54:09 |
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NO, THE VOICE-ACTIVATED SYSTEM WAS TIED IN WITH THE LOCATOR THING. SO WHEN THE LIGHT WENT TO OVAL OFFICE THEN THE MECHANISM WAS LIVE IN THE OVAL OFFICE....
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| 00:56:03 |
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DRAMATIC. >>
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| 00:56:04 |
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IST SHOWS I'M OUT OF THE -- I'M LETTING MYSELF GO HERE. I HAD A BUTTON ON MY PHONE THAT DID THE SAME THING. I COULD ACTIVATE THE CABINET ROOM TAPES...
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| 00:56:34 |
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ASKED THE DIRECT QUESTION AND GAVE A DIRECT ANSWER, DID YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF THE CONSEQUENCES? >> YEAH, PRETTY
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| 00:56:40 |
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MUCH. I THINK I MENTIONED TO YOU, I REALLY DIDN'T THINK -- I THOUGHT I PROBABLY WOULD BE FIRED. I DIDN'T THINK OUTRIGHT THAT MOMENT THAT WOULD BE HAM...
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| 00:57:29 |
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ST. CLAIRE. >> ST.
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| 00:57:30 |
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CLAIRE. NOT DO IT TO HIM BECAUSE HE DIDN'T KNOW ME FROM ADAM. BUT THE PEOPLE HE BROUGHT WITH HIM, YOUNG LAWYERS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE, I THINK BY MY...
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| 01:00:04 |
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TALKING ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATE SENSE OF THE CONSEQUENCES FOR YOU. I ALSO WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU HAD A SENSE OF THE CONSEQUENCES FOR PRESIDENT NIXON....
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| 01:00:18 |
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YEAH, I THINK I SAID TO SOMEONE, A GUY NAMED BILL LILY, HE'S THE ONE WHO WHOM I ENTRUSTED THE $350,000. I SAID, I THINK THAT THESE TAPES ARE GOING TO...
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| 01:02:58 |
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OF THE PRESIDENT WAS CHANGED BY THIS. >> OH,
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| 01:03:00 |
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YEAH, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN I -- >> I'M NOT
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| 01:03:03 |
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SAYING -- >> YEAH,
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| 01:03:04 |
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IT DID. >> BUT YOUR OPINION
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| 01:03:07 |
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CHANGED. >>
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| 01:03:08 |
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YEAH. I SAW HIM -- HE WAS CLEARLY NOT WHAT I WOULD CALL AN HONEST MAN, BUT I THOUGHT, WELL, MAYBE THAT'S POLITICS. >> YOU HAD OBSERVED
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| 01:03:17 |
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ANOTHER PRESIDENT. >>
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| 01:03:18 |
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YEAH. BUT I DIDN'T OBSERVE HIM -- I ONLY OBSERVED HIM IN A GOOD LIGHT. I DID. I DIDN'T SEE JOHNSON TALKING TO PEOPLE OR -- I SAY JUST TO EXPLAIN THAT,...
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| 01:04:12 |
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DOMINGO. >> SANTA
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| 01:04:14 |
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DOMINGO. I WAS CONVINCED FROM SITTING IN ON ALL THE MEETINGS WITH McNAMARA THEY WERE CONCERNED. THEY DID THINK THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A COMMUNIST CONSPIRACY...
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| 01:04:43 |
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FOLLOW-UP, WITH NIXON YOU FELT IT WAS A GREATER -- YOU WERE OBSERVING THINGS THAT TROUBLED
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| 01:04:50 |
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YOU. >> UH-HUH. I SAID I THOUGHT HE WAS A CROOK. YES, I'VE SAID THAT LATER. I'M NOT A CROOK ONLY BECAUSE HE SAID I'M NOT A CROOK. HE REALLY WAS....
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| 01:05:55 |
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IT? >> YEAH. >> TO MAKE
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| 01:05:56 |
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IT -- >> TO MAKE IT LOOK AS
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| 01:06:00 |
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THOUGH I WERE IN A QUESTIONABLE POSITION RELATIVE TO THE LAW. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHY I HAD TO MEET A GRAND JURY. AND I JUST HAD TO LOOK THEM IN THE EYE...
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| 01:08:14 |
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IT COME FROM THE WHITE HOUSE? >>
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| 01:08:17 |
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YEAH. OH, SURE. YEAH. I MEAN, MY FILES ARE AT THE WHITE HOUSE. [ INAUDIBLE ] AND, NO, I GUESS I COULDN'T FORESEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH NIXON, BUT I...
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| 01:09:06 |
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LARRY -- >> HE LIVED UP AT THE
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| 01:09:11 |
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SHER TAN HOTEL. I WENT BY THERE, HAD DINNER WITH HIM A LOT. HE COUNSELED ME A LITTLE BIT IN THOSE DAYS. BUT -- SO ANYWAY, AFTER THE -- AFTER THE --...
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| 01:11:39 |
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YOU REMEMBER WHERE YOU WERE WHEN PRESIDENT NIXON ANNOUNCED HIS
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| 01:11:43 |
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RESIGNATION? >> YES. OH, HIS RESIGNATION? THE ACTUAL RESIGNATION? OR YOU MEAN WHEN HE GAVE THAT SPEECH? >> EITHER
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| 01:11:52 |
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ONE. >> WELL,
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| 01:11:53 |
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I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE THE CAMERA BEFORE, AND I'M SURE NIXON LOVERS HATE ME FOR IT, BUT I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND THE WEEPING. I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND IT....
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| 01:13:44 |
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THAT? >> I'M ABSOLUTELY
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| 01:13:45 |
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POSITIVE HE KNEW ABOUT THE BREAK-IN BEFORE. OF COURSE, I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT SAID THAT PUBLICLY. I SAID WHITE HOUSE AIDES ARE NOT LOOSE CANNONS. THEY...
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| 01:18:05 |
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ELECTION? >> AFTER THE
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| 01:18:07 |
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ELECTION. HALDERMAN AND EHRLICHMAN WERE RUNNING EVERYTHING. >> WHAT DID YOU SAY
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| 01:18:12 |
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TO MRS. -- >> OH, I SAID
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| 01:18:14 |
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OKAY. SHE WAS MY WIFE'S BEST FRIEND AT UCLA. SO WHAT I STARTED TO SAY, SO THIS COURT CASE STARTS. JUDGE SIRIKA PREVOID INGSIDING. I'M A WITNESS FOR...
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| 01:18:31 |
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TO REPORT ON WHAT YOU HEARD ON THE TAPES OR WERE YOU JUST TO VERIFY THE TAPES? THEY JUST HAD YOU TESTIFY AS TO THE -- >> I FORGET SPECIFICALLY
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| 01:18:41 |
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THAT THE SPECIAL PROSECUTORE ERPROSECUTOR'S OFFICE WANTED ME TO DO. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ERRORS. I THINK SOME OF THE ERRORS WE BROUGHT OUT. I ACTUALLY...
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