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FOR HISTORIANS OF AMERICAN FOREIGN RELATIONS ANNUAL CONFERENCE, A PANEL OF HISTORIANS REFLECTED ON THE IMPACT SEPTEMBER 121th HAS HAD AND HOW THE...
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| 00:00:23 |
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EVEN THOUGH WITH STILL HAVE SOME COMMOTION GOING ON NEXT DOOR. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU GIVE FREE DRINKS. >> ULTIMATELY THEY WILL
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| 00:00:35 |
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GO HOME OR THEY'LL COME HERE, ONE OR THE OTHER. SO I THINK WE SHOULD START. >>
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| 00:00:40 |
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WE'LL START. ON BEHALF OF THE SOCIETY FOR HISTORIANS OF AMERICAN FOREIGN RELATIONS AND THE 2011 PROGRAM COMMITTEE, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO THIS...
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| 00:05:43 |
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FINALLY. THERE'S PROBABLY LIFE AFTER THE PRESIDENCY. A GOOGLE SEARCH WHICH I DID ON JUNE 20th, 2011, WITH THE KEY WORDS TEN YEARS AFTER 9/11, TURNED...
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| 00:08:44 |
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MUCH. I HAVE A GRADUATE STUDENT HERE FROM BOSTON UNIVERSITY I'VE BEEN TRYING TO PERSUADE HIM THAT A MARK OF PROFESSIONALISM AT CONFERENCES IS THAT,...
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| 00:22:16 |
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HERE. SEPTEMBER 11th CATAPULTED RELIGION INTO THE FOREFRONT OF THE DISCUSSION OF INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS. IT WASN'T THE BEGINNING OF THAT DISCUSSION,...
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| 00:38:14 |
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TRUE THAT THERE WAS FREE FOOD AND DRINKS NEXT DOOR AND YOU CAME HERE, I JUST WANT TO SAY NOT ONLY THANK YOU, BUT WHAT A SIGN OF YOUR SERIOUS COMMITMENT...
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| 00:57:34 |
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MORE DISCIPLINED, HOLDING MYSELF TO ONLY TEN MINUTES SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR DISCUSSION. SHE SAID THAT THERE WERE THOSE IN THE -- WHO BELIEVED IN...
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| 01:07:44 |
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GOOD EVENING. I JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED MY MASTERS AT MORGAN STATE UNIVERSITY AND THIS QUESTION IS TO ANYONE ON THE PANEL. I HAVE NOTICED SINCE 9/11...
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| 01:09:15 |
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SENSE. AND THE REFERENCE TO THE WAY RETURNING SOLDIERS TALK ABOUT THE -- >> I THINK THERE MAY HAVE BEEN
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| 01:09:34 |
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A POTENTIAL FOR REVIVAL OF AUTHENTIC PATRIOTISM IN THE IMMEDIATE WAKE OF 9/11, I THINK THAT THAT DISSIPATED QUICKLY. SO WE ARE LEFT WITH A PATRIOTIC...
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| 01:13:19 |
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THERE IS SOMETHING INTERESTING TO LOOK AT IS RIGHT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE -- ARE THERE CHANGES? IS THERE A PATH TO A SENSE OF PATRIOTISM MENG AMERICANS...
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| 01:17:58 |
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SOMETHING TURNED HARSH. I WILL REMIND US THAT THAT THE UNITED STATES WILL HAVE BEEN AT WAR SINCE THEY WERE EIGHT YEARS OLD. THEY LIVE IN A MILITARY...
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| 01:19:37 |
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WONDERING, I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN THE MIDDLE EAST. WE HAVE NOW WHAT? A MILLION YOUNG AMERICANS SERVING...
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| 01:20:27 |
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THE THINGS THAT WE NOW KNOW IS IS IMPACT ON AMERICAN SOLDIERS BEFORE THEY GO WHICH HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE SINCE THE U.S. HAS GONE TO WAR IN IRAQ BECAUSE...
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| 01:21:48 |
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THEY LEARNED AS A RESULT OF THEIR EXPERIENCES, BUT I WONDER THAT APART HOW INFLUENTIAL THIS GENERATION OF VETERANS IS LIKELY TO BE. A MILLION SEEMS...
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| 01:22:55 |
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TO SAY SOMETHING? SHALL WE GO BACK TO THIS SIDE IN THE BACK. WHOEVER IS FURTHEST BACK. LOOK AROUND. >> I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO
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| 01:23:05 |
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THE PROFESSOR FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND THE PROFESSOR FROM BOSTON COLLEGE ABOUT THE TURN. YOU SAID THERE WAS CONSENSUS AROUND THE WORLD AFTER 9/11...
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| 01:24:08 |
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THE SKEPTICISM ABOUT THE REASONS TO GO TO WAR IN IRAQ. IT WASN'T RELATED TO SEPTEMBER 11th THAT LEAD TO THE CENSUS WITHIN THE UNITED STATES AND SO...
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| 01:24:28 |
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THAT I'M FROM BOSTON UNIVERSITY WHERE THE PLACE WITH THE HOCKEY TEAM AND THE PLACE BC IS THE PLACE WITH THE FOOTBALL TEAM. >> WE WILL GO BACK TO
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| 01:24:40 |
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THAT SIDE OF THE ROOM AND THEN UP THE MIDDLE. >> I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT
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| 01:24:48 |
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THE CONSENSUS THAT AND I HAD A DIFFERENT PERCEPTION. IT WAS NOT SO MUCH SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES BUT EXPECTING THE UNITED STATES TO ASSUME A DIFFERENT...
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| 01:25:54 |
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FOR OFFERING YOUR EXPERIENCE. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THERE WAS THIS MOMENT. WHEN THE WORLD CAME TOGETHER. PEOPLE WENT TO AMERICAN...
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| 01:26:26 |
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WEEKS? A COUPLE MONTHS. HOW LONG IT LASTED. THE REAL SENSE OF THE WORLD COMING TOGETHER IT CERTAINLY DID NOT LAST FOR MONTHS. I DO THINK THERE WAS...
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| 01:28:19 |
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JIM'S QUESTION. ABOUT 5% OF OUR STUDENTS ARE VETERANS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF VETERANS FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS OR SO BECAUSE SO MANY ...
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| 01:29:58 |
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BACK TO ALL THE WARS TO VIETNAM. AND I HAD VERY FEW VETERANS IN MY CLASS. VIETNAM BEING THE WAR IT WAS FOR A LOT OF VETERANS IT WAS A TALKING WAR....
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| 01:32:23 |
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A DIFFERENT WAY. >> I TEACH A
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| 01:32:34 |
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FILM GUNNER PALACE ABOUT SOLDIERS SERVING IN IRAQ AND THAT REALLY OPENS UP THE DISCUSSION THAT ALLOWS EVERYBODY TO BE -- IT DOESN'T GIVE -- I WOULD...
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| 01:33:47 |
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PALACE AND THIS OTHER ONE. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO COMMENT TO -- ANYBODY WANT TO COMMENT TO WHAT STEVE SAID? IN THE FRONT YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP FIRST....
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| 01:34:06 |
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OF VETERANS FOR MY CLASSES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY COME TO ME FOR BECAUSE I'M A VETERAN ALSO AND WHAT THEY WOULD SAY TO YOU IS THAT THAT IS BEING...
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| 01:34:51 |
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TO SAY THERE ARE NOT JUST ONE SET OF PERSONAL EXPERIENCES REPRESENTED IN THE CLASSROOM AS WELL. THAT, AT LEAST IN THE SITUATION I'M IN ALLOWS FOR...
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| 01:35:28 |
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AMERICAN MOMENT. THERE IS A LOT OF EMOTIONALISM INVOLVED IN THIS. HOW DO WE AS HISTORIANS RESEARCH IT AS A GLOBAL MOMENT AND HOW DO WE GET THESE VOICES...
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| 01:36:28 |
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OF FILMS CALLED SEPTEMBER 11 WHICH IS 11 11-MINUTE FILMS ABOUT SEPTEMBER 11. IT INCLUDES AN IRANIAN FILM, ISRAELI FILM, EGYPTIAN ONE. AND IT REALLY...
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| 01:37:52 |
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A MATTER OF NAN IRAQ WAS NOT PART OF 911 AND AN ENORMOUS NUMBER OF AMERICAN TROOPS WHO WENT THERE THOUGHT THEY WERE RESPONDING TO 9/11. SO THEY FOUGHT...
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| 01:38:52 |
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KA HOOTS WITH AL QAEDA. SEEMS TO ME THAT THOSE ARE FACTS. BUT, THE WILDLY OVER AMBITIOUS AND BIZARRE STRATEGY CONCEIVED BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION...
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| 01:42:29 |
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OKAY. BUT THAT STILL DOESN'T SPEAK TO THE ISSUE OF WHAT SOLDIERSFIGHTING FOR WHICH IS WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS,...
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| 01:42:57 |
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CAROLYN CAROLYNIZENBURG. I WANTED TO ASK ANDREW SOMETHING FROM THE LATTER PART OF YOUR TALK WHICH I WASN'T SURE IF I WAS HEARING CORRECTIONALLY. I...
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| 01:44:03 |
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WAS TRYING TO MAKE IS THE FOLLOWING. AND BEGAN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO REFORM ITSELF AND RECOVER FROM THIS CATASTROPHIC EXPERIENCE, THE LEADERSHIP...
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| 01:46:04 |
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HAVE FOUND OURSELVES UNABLE TO ACHIEVE ANY KIND OF A DECISION AND WE END UP WITH WHAT IS DESPITE THE MYRIAD OF DIFFERENCES ANOTHER VIETNAM. NOT INVOLVING...
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| 01:48:40 |
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YEAH. IN THE BACK? >> FIRST A COMMENT ON
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| 01:48:53 |
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RUSTY'S POINT, I THINK THAT PART OF THE REACTION TO OBAMA'S -- WHAT OBAMA DID IN THE LAST TWO DAYS IS NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR BECAUSE IT'S BEING INTERPRETED...
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| 01:51:18 |
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I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THE REASON I DIDN'T MENTION GETTING BIN LADEN, IS BECAUSE I'M FROM BOSTON. AND YESTERDAY WE GOT WHITEY BULGER. AND THAT'S...
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| 01:51:39 |
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YOU WANT TO SAY IN RESPONSE? >>
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| 01:51:41 |
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I'VE ALREADY USED UP MORE THAN MY TIME. >> YOU KNOW, JUST
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| 01:51:45 |
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BRIEFLY, I MEAN, THIS IS MORE THINKING ABOUT SEPTEMBER 11th AS A CULTURAL MOMENT, AND HOW IT WILL BE FRAMED. AND I ACTUALLY DID MENTION OSAMA BIN...
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| 01:54:51 |
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SERIOUS COMMENT WOULD BE THAT YOU COULD TAKE US TO TASK EVEN MORE FOR NOT MENTIONING ARAB SPRING. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF US MENTIONED THE ARAB SPRING....
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| 01:56:05 |
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TO SPEAK? OR -- WE HAVE TIME FOR ONE -- ONE MORE QUESTION. THERE WAS ONE MORE QUESTION. YEAH, GO AHEAD. >> THIS ISN'T A QUESTION,
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| 01:56:15 |
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JUST A SUGGESTION. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE ON THE PANEL FOR WONDERFUL PRESENTATIONS FOR THE AUDIENCE. ALL OF US ARE GOING TO BE TEACHING...
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| 01:57:15 |
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HIGH SCHOOLS, BRAD. >> THERE ARE HIGH SCHOOLS
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| 01:57:17 |
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AND LOTS OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE PROBABLY STRUGGLING WITH THE SAME THINGS. I THINK WE SHOULD SEE IF SHAFFER COULD BE A RESOURCE ON TEACHERS TO TEACH...
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| 01:57:40 |
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THE TEACHING COMMITTEE AND ALSO TO THE WEBMASTER AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO QUICKLY. >> SORT OF A LITTLE
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| 01:57:46 |
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PITCH, THERE IS A SPECIAL ISSUE -- IT'S VERY AMERICANIST ORIENTED, THE ORGANIZATION OF AMERICAN HISTORIANS MAGAZINE OF HISTORY, MICHAEL SHERRY HAS...
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| 01:58:46 |
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GREAT. YOU WANT A LAST WORD, CAROLYN? >> I'M JUST GOING
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| 01:58:51 |
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TO SAY THAT I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. THOUGH I THINK IT SHOULD BE WIDENED, SO IT'S NOT JUST SEPTEMBER 11th, BUT IT DOES INCORPORATE WHAT HAPPENED AFTER...
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| 01:59:21 |
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GOING TO HAVE THE LAST WORD. >> I DON'T WANT US TO RESPOND
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| 01:59:28 |
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TO THE RICK. I THINK THE INTERESTING QUESTION ABOUT THE SO-CALLED ARAB SPRING IS WHY AMERICAN MEDIA, WE'RE SO IMPRESSED BY THE IDEA THAT IT WAS SO...
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| 02:00:39 |
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GOOD. WELL, I WANT TO THANK THE PANEL, AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU. AND -- [ APPLAUSE ] -- SEE YOU AROUND. >>> THROUGHOUT
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