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MR. CHAIRMAN. I WOULD ASK THAT MY FULL STATEMENT BE INCLUDED IN THE RECORD. >>
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WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, RANKING
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MEMBER CUMMINGS, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, I'M VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT'S CONTINUING EFFORTS TO RESPOND TO THE...
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| 00:07:34 |
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HOPE SO. I RECOGNIZE MYSELF. SIR, IF YOU'RE GOING TO COUNT PAGES LIKE THIS AS DISCOVERY, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF. THE ONLY THING THAT THIS...
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| 00:10:49 |
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YOU HAVE RAISED A NUMBER OF ISSUES. LET ME TRY -- >> DO THE LAST ONES
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| 00:10:54 |
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FIRST. WHO AUTHORIZED THIS PROGRAM THAT WAS SO FELONY STUPID THAT IT GOT PEOPLE KILLED? >> THE ATTORNEY
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| 00:11:00 |
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GENERAL HAS SAID THAT HE WANTS TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS. HE HAS DIRECTED THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL AT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW...
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| 00:11:12 |
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WHY ARE WE ANY BURDEN AT ALL? ISN'T EVERY ONE OF OUR REQUESTS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SHOULD BE LOOKING...
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| 00:11:23 |
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FACT THAT EVERYTHING YOU'VE ASKED FOR IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT. >> I HOPE YOU CAME
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HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE THAT. WE'RE ASKING FOR THINGS RELATED TO THE ABOVE THE FIELD LEVEL ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY. OUR QUESTIONS ARE ABOUT WHO AUTHORIZED...
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CHAIRMAN, THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL -- >> WHO AT JUSTICE AND
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IF YOU KNOW, I ASK YOU TO ANSWER WHO DO YOU KNOW WAS INVOLVED IN THE AUTHORIZATION OF THIS TODAY? DO YOU KNOW? DO YOU KNOW? >> WELL, MR.
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| 00:12:10 |
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CHAIRMAN, IF YOU WILL PERMIT ME TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, WE SENT A LETTER TO CHAIRMAN SMITH, WHO ASKED A QUESTION LIKE THAT. WE POINTED OUT THAT THIS OPERATION...
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| 00:12:25 |
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NOT AUTHORIZATION. WHO AUTHORIZED IT AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL? >> AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, PLEASE -- >> DO YOU KNOW WHO AUTHORIZED
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| 00:12:31 |
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IT AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL? DON'T ANSWER PHOENIX OR TUCSON OR ANY PART OF ARIZONA, IF YOU PLEASE. >>
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| 00:12:37 |
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WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'S DIFFICULT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS IF YOU WON'T PERMIT ME TO ANSWER THEM. >> I WANT THE ANSWER
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| 00:12:41 |
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TO MY QUESTION, WHICH WAS WHO HERE IN WASHINGTON AUTHORIZED IT. WE KNOW WHO LOOKED AT IT ON VIDEO. WE KNOW WHO AUTHORIZED IT EFFECTIVELY AT LEAST BY...
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NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. THE INSPECTOR GENERAL IS REVIEWING THE MATTER. >> THEN
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WE WILL HAVE SOMEBODY BACK WHO DOES. THE RANKING MEMBER IS RECOGNIZED. >> MR.
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| 00:13:04 |
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WEICH, LET ME APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. YOU DON'T DESERVE THAT. PERHAPS SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE DEPARTMENT DOES. WHAT IS YOUR ROLE? WHAT'S YOUR JOB? >> I'M
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| 00:13:16 |
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THE ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR THE OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS, CONGRESSMAN. >> AND THESE
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| 00:13:21 |
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ARE NOT DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE, ARE THEY, THE QUESTIONS THAT HE WAS JUST ASKING ABOUT, THE CHAIRMAN WAS ASKING ABOUT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND AS...
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| 00:13:30 |
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TIMES, THERE'S A CERTAIN LEVEL OF INTEGRITY THAT WE MUST MAINTAIN IN THIS COMMITTEE. I SEE THIS COMMITTEE AS JUST LOWER THAN A COURT, AND I KNOW AND...
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| 00:14:03 |
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YIELD. I'M TRYING TO TALK TO THE WITNESS. I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU. >>
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NO. YOU DIDN'T -- >> I'LL YIELD AS LONG AS I GET THE TIME. >> HOLD THE
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| 00:14:12 |
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TIME. WOULD THE GENTLEMAN PLEASE NOTE, YOU MAY APOLOGIZE ON BEHALF OF SOMETHING YOU SAY. I AM NOT APOLOGETIC. YOU MAY NOT APOLOGIZE ON BEHALF OF THE...
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RESUME. >> LET ME SAY THIS. I APOLOGIZE. BECAUSE WE'RE BETTER THAN THAT. WE'RE BETTER THAN THAT. AND I DO HOPE THAT WE BRING THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE...
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| 00:15:16 |
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THAT'S CORRECT, CONGRESSMAN. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. >> NOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND
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| 00:15:24 |
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THE CHAIRMAN BEING UPSET BECAUSE I WOULD BE UPSET BUT I WOULDN'T TREAT YOU LIKE THAT, ABOUT SOMEBODY SUBMITTING TO ME SOME BLACK PAGES. CAN YOU EXPLAIN...
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| 00:15:33 |
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TO MAKE CLEAR, CONGRESSMAN, IS THAT THE NUMBER OF PAGES THAT I CITED IN MY TESTIMONY AS HAVING BEEN PRODUCED OR MADE AVAILABLE DOES NOT INCLUDE SUCH...
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| 00:15:50 |
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THE TOTAL PAGES THAT YOU SUBMITTED? >>
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| 00:15:55 |
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I WILL GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBERS. >>
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| 00:15:57 |
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WHILE YOUR STAFF IS ASSISTING YOU ON THAT, LET ME GO ON. >> I HAVE IT. >> OKAY. >> WE HAVE
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| 00:16:02 |
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PHYSICALLY PRODUCED MORE THAN 675 PAGES OF DOCUMENTS AND MADE AVAILABLE MORE THAN 900 ADDITIONAL PAGES FOR REVIEW. I SHOULD SAY, THIS PRODUCTION IS...
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| 00:16:19 |
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OF OUR INVESTIGATION IS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OCCURRED AND WHO IS RESPONSIBLE. DO YOU THINK THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT DOCUMENTS TO ANSWER...
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| 00:16:36 |
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YOU SAID THERE'S SOME CONFIDENTIALITY ISSUES. I'M TRYING TO GET TO AND YOU SAID THIS SPANS CERTAIN POLICY SPANS OVER CERTAIN ADMINISTRATIONS, WASN'T...
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YES, IT IS. AND I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO SO. WE ARE DOING THAT BY PROVIDING DOCUMENTS, BY BRIEFING THE COMMITTEE, BY MAKING DOCUMENTS AVAILABLE, AND...
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| 00:17:35 |
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THAT IT IS THE PUBLIC RELEASE OF THIS INFORMATION THAT PRESENTS THE MOST RISK TO ONGOING CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS AND PROSECUTIONS. YOU STATED AND I...
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| 00:18:23 |
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CONGRESSMAN. SOME OF THESE DOCUMENTS IDENTIFY COOPERATING WITNESSES. THEY IDENTIFY CONFIDENTIAL INFORMANTS. THEY DESCRIBE A STRATEGY AS TO SPECIFIC...
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| 00:19:10 |
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HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OKLAHOMA IS RECOGNIZED. WOULD YOU YIELD TO ME FOR 30 SECONDS? >> ABSOLUTELY. >>
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| 00:19:16 |
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DID YOU PROVIDE THOSE DOCUMENTS YOU SAY WERE RELEASED, THAT WERE SEALED? THE DOCUMENTS YOU SAY WERE PREMATURELY RELEASED, WERE THEY PROVIDED BY YOU...
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NOT CERTAIN. IF YOU WILL PERMIT ME TO CONSULT WITH MY STAFF, I WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. >> GO AHEAD. >>
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| 00:19:34 |
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I GOT THE ANSWER, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE ANSWER IS NO, THOSE WERE NOT DOCUMENTS WE PROVIDED. THOSE WERE DOCUMENTS THAT YOUR INVESTIGATORS OBTAINED AND THEN...
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| 00:19:48 |
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IF WE GET DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT PROVIDING DOCUMENTS, THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE? >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, SEEMS
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| 00:19:56 |
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TO ME THAT YOU SHOULD ASK THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WHETHER SENSITIVE DOCUMENTS SHOULD BE MADE PUBLIC. THAT PARTICULAR DOCUMENT RELATED TO A WIRETAP...
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| 00:20:12 |
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THOSE DOCUMENTS WITH APPROPRIATE GUIDANCE, THAT OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED. YOU DIDN'T DO IT. YOU HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO DO IT. YIELD BACK TO...
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| 00:20:22 |
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YOU. AS I TRY TO FOLLOW THIS WHOLE DAY AND TRY TO PROCESS WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON, FEBRUARY THE 4th, THERE'S A LETTER SENATOR GRASSLEY, BACK AND FORTH WITH...
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| 00:21:13 |
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CONGRESSMAN. THE STATEMENTS THAT YOU REFER TO ARE -- LET ME SAY THIS. EVERY TIME THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SENDS A LETTER TO CONGRESS, IT IS TRUE TO THE...
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| 00:21:44 |
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ATF DID PERMIT THOSE KNOWINGLY UNDERSTANDING THEY'RE HEADED TOWARDS THE BORDER AND THAT WAS WELL KNOWN APPARENTLY AMONG THE PHOENIX OFFICE AND AS WE...
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| 00:22:09 |
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OBVIOUSLY ALLEGATIONS FROM THE ATF AGENTS YOU'VE HEARD FROM TODAY AND FROM OTHERS HAVE GIVEN RISE TO SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW ATF CONDUCTED THIS OPERATION...
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| 00:22:26 |
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ANY COMMUNICATION WITH LEADERSHIP IN MEXICO SO THAT IF THESE WEAPONS SHOWED UP IN MEXICO, WE WERE ACTUALLY DOING A LAW ENFORCEMENT PROCESS HERE TO MAKE...
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| 00:22:46 |
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I CAN'T -- FROM MY POSITION IN THE OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS, I DON'T HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE KIND OF COMMUNICATION. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT...
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| 00:23:10 |
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YOU WERE AWARE THIS FAST AND FURIOUS WAS GOING ON AND GUNS WERE HEADED THEIR DIRECTION, AND THEY WERE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS, OR IT'S JUST WE KNOW THEIR...
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| 00:23:21 |
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I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION WITH SPECIFICITY. >> DO YOU KNOW WHO MIGHT
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| 00:23:26 |
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BE A GOOD PERSON WE CAN CONTACT TO GET THAT KIND OF INFORMATION? >> THE
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| 00:23:30 |
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COMMITTEE HAS ALREADY INTERVIEWED ONE ATF AGENT AND WE ARE PREPARED TO MAKE OTHER AGENTS AVAILABLE. THESE INCLUDE HIGH RANKING ATF OFFICIALS. I WOULD...
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| 00:23:41 |
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TERRIFIC. WHAT OTHER OFFICE BESIDES THE PHOENIX OFFICE WAS DOING THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM? >>
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| 00:23:45 |
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CONGRESSMAN, I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO ANSWER. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. >>
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| 00:23:50 |
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OKAY. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OFFICES THAT DOJ HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT WERE INFORMED ABOUT THIS OPERATION AS IT WAS ONGOING THAT MIGHT BE ENGAGED,...
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| 00:24:18 |
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ARE YOU SAYING OFFICES OR AGENCIES OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT? >> WITHIN
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| 00:24:21 |
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JUSTICE THAT IT HAS RELATIONSHIP WITH. >> I DON'T
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| 00:24:23 |
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KNOW. THERE IS CLOSE COMMUNICATION AMONG THE VARIOUS U.S. ATTORNEYS' OFFICES AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMPONENTS. THERE ARE CROSS-CUTTING MEETINGS...
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| 00:24:39 |
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THE GENTLEMAN. THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI. MR. CLAY. >> THANK YOU, MR.
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| 00:24:43 |
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CHAIRMAN. MR. WEICH, FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAS WORKED HARD TO COMPLY WITH THE COMMITTEE'S VERY LARGE DOCUMENT REQUEST. NOT...
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| 00:26:59 |
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YES. IT'S A VERY COMMON PRACTICE, AS I DETAIL IN MY WRITTEN STATEMENT. FOR MANY YEARS, THE DEPARTMENT HAS USED THIS PROCESS OF MAKING DOCUMENTS...
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| 00:27:45 |
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IT'S VERY DISTURBING TO YOU AND TO THE DEPARTMENT THAT -- TO THE FACT THAT DESPITE YOUR PROCEDURES AND CLEAR WARNINGS, THE MAJORITY AND SENATOR GRASSLEY...
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| 00:28:04 |
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CONGRESSMAN. I HAVE AS THE CHAIRMAN NOTED, I HAVE BEEN HERE ALL MORNING AND LISTENED TO SENATOR GRASSLEY AS WELL AS TO THE TERRY FAMILY AND TO THE...
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| 00:28:38 |
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ON MONDAY THAT YOU HEARD DURING THE HEARING ON MONDAY THAT THE COMMITTEE IS COMMITTED TO NOT COMPROMISING THE MURDER INVESTIGATION OR THE BROADER...
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| 00:29:26 |
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CONGRESSMAN CLAY, WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE. WE HAVE AN ONGOING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMITTEE STAFF. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO FLAG...
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THANK YOU. WE RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEMAN FROM UTAH. >> WHEN DID YOU FIRST TALK
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| 00:29:50 |
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TO ATTORNEY GENERAL HOLDER ABOUT THIS ISSUE? >> AS BEST AS I CAN RECALL,
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| 00:29:55 |
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IT CAME UP IN PREPARATION FOR HIS OVERSIGHT HEARINGS IN MAY. HE WAS ASKED ABOUT IT BY CHAIRMAN ISSA -- >> DO YOU STILL HOLD
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| 00:30:04 |
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TIGHT -- YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT THE LETTERS THAT YOU SENT ON FEBRUARY 4th, 2011 TO SENATOR GRASSLEY AND AGAIN, ANOTHER LETTER ON MAY 2nd, 2011 TO ...
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| 00:30:25 |
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QUESTION. IS IT COMPLETE, ACCURATE? >> CONGRESSMAN -- >> YES OR NO? >> WELL, RESPECTFULLY,
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| 00:30:29 |
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THAT'S NOT SUSCEPTIBLE TO A YES/NO ANSWER. >> GO AHEAD. >> THANK
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| 00:30:34 |
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YOU. AS THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT POINTED OUT, THERE IS A TECHNICAL EXPLANATION FOR WHY THE ALLEGATION THAT ATF SANCTIONED THE SALE OF GUNS TO STRAW...
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| 00:31:09 |
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THINK SOMEBODY KNOWINGLY AND WILLFULLY ACTUALLY MISLED AND LIED TO CONGRESS, WOULD I BE OFF BASE? >> RESPECTFULLY,
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| 00:31:17 |
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CONGRESSMAN, YOU WOULD BE IN THAT WE MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO PROVIDE TRUTHFUL INFORMATION TO CONGRESS. I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT -- >> I WOULD LIKE...
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| 00:31:25 |
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HIGHLIGHT JANUARY 8th, REMEMBER, THESE LETTERS CAME OUT IN FEBRUARY 4th AND MAY 2nd, BUT ON JANUARY 8th, I WILL QUOTE FROM THIS INTERNAL DOCUMENT HERE...
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| 00:32:33 |
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ASKED QUESTIONS THAT THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL IS LOOKING AT, THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS LOOKING AT -- >> I WANT ANSWERS
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| 00:32:38 |
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FROM YOU. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE. YOU HAVE THIS DOCUMENT. YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS TRUE. THIS MEMO GOES ON TO CONTINUE TO SAY AGAIN IN JANUARY, TO DATE,...
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| 00:33:31 |
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CONGRESSMAN, I HAVE EXPLAINED TO YOU THAT WE DO OUR BEST TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION TO CONGRESS AS WE KNOW IT. AS ALLEGATIONS HAVE COME TO LIGHT, WE...
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| 00:33:42 |
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IS FAST AND FURIOUS STILL ONGOING? >>
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| 00:33:48 |
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I DON'T BELIEVE SO, CONGRESSMAN. >> AT WHAT POINT
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| 00:33:51 |
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DID THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ORDER THAT IT BE TAKEN DOWN, DID WE STOP DOING IT? AT WHAT POINT DID THEY ACTUALLY SAY ALL RIGHT, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? >> THE...
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| 00:33:58 |
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MADE VERY CLEAR AS THIS MATTER CAME TO LIGHT THAT GUNS SHOULD NEVER BE WALKED TO MEXICO. >>
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| 00:34:04 |
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I WANT TO KNOW WHEN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ACTUALLY GOT ENGAGED IN THIS. WHY DIDN'T HE KNOW ABOUT IT? WHEN DID HE KNOW ABOUT IT? OR IS HE JUST OBLIVIOUS...
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| 00:34:12 |
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CONGRESSMAN, HE ANSWERED CHAIRMAN ISSA'S QUESTION ON THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. THE QUESTION WAS -- >> BUT I QUESTIONED HIM
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| 00:34:19 |
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ALSO ON THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, IF YOU REMEMBER. YOU WERE SITTING IN THE ROW RIGHT BEHIND HIM. HE SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW WHEN HE FIRST KNEW ABOUT...
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| 00:34:30 |
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THAT HE FIRST LEARNED ABOUT IT SEVERAL WEEKS BEFORE THE HEARING IN CONNECTION WITH -- >>
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| 00:34:33 |
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WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHEN YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE RECORD, PRESIDENT OBAMA KNEW ABOUT IT BACK IN MARCH. IF THE PRESIDENT KNEW ABOUT IT, WHY...
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| 00:35:12 |
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GENTLEMAN. IF I MAY GRANT MYSELF TIME FOR A COLLOQUY BECAUSE THE GENTLEMAN DOES SEEM TO BE RATHER UPSET, I HAVE READ THE STATEMENT AND IF YOU WERE...
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| 00:36:02 |
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CHAIRMAN. SIR, I KNOW THAT YOU WERE HERE THIS MORNING WHILE THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE WERE -- I WILL SAY THIS WITH ALL THE CIVILITY THAT I CAN...
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| 00:36:44 |
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NOT A QUESTION THAT I'M EQUIPPED TO ANSWER. AS I'VE SAID, THE INSPECTOR GENERAL IS LOOKING AT IT AND WE'RE COOPERATING IN THIS COMMITTEE'S INVESTIGATION....
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| 00:36:59 |
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SIR, YOU DID NOT. BUT IT IS BITTERLY IRONIC THAT THE FIRST CRITICISM YOU WOULD HAVE OR THE FIRST USE OF THE WORD OVERSTEP WOULD BE OF THIS COMMITTEE...
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| 00:37:40 |
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MEXICO? >> NO, SIR. I PERSONALLY DO NOT. >> WHAT IS DOJ'S POLICY
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| 00:37:43 |
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ON GUNS WALKING? >> THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS
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| 00:37:47 |
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MADE VERY CLEAR THAT GUNS CANNOT WALK TO MEXICO. THAT IS TO SAY, GUNS, IT IS A VIOLATION OF LAW FOR GUNS TO BE TRANSPORTED ACROSS THE BORDER TO MEXICO....
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| 00:37:58 |
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WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF WALKING? >> THAT, AS
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| 00:38:02 |
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THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT MADE CLEAR, IS THE SUBJECT OF MUCH DISCUSSION WITHIN ATF AND -- >> I'M ASKING ABOUT DOJ. >> I'M AFRAID
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| 00:38:10 |
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I'M NOT IN POSITION TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I WILL SAY THAT IT IS -- >> BUT YOU WOULD
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| 00:38:17 |
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AGREE THAT SAYING THAT ME PHYSICALLY HANDING SOMEONE WHO IS A PROHIBITED PERSON A GUN, THAT CANNOT BE THE ONLY DEFINITION OF WALKING. HAVING KNOWLEDGE...
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| 00:38:35 |
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WALKING. WHAT I CAN SAY, CONGRESSMAN, IS THAT IT IS -- THIS IS A CHALLENGING ENFORCEMENT ENVIRONMENT AS I THINK YOU KNOW AS A FORMER
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| 00:38:43 |
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FEDERAL PROSECUTOR. >> I DO. BUT I ALSO GOT TO TELL YOU AS A FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR, THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED. I HAVE NEVER HEARD -- WOULD YOU EVER...
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| 00:39:04 |
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BIG DIFFERENCE. DRUGS ARE PER SE ILLEGAL AND GUNS ARE NOT. THE SALE OF A FIREARM OR MULTIPLE FIREARMS TO AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS NOT A PROHIBITED PERSON...
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| 00:39:16 |
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THAT. WOULD YOU HAVE ALLOWED CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES TO SKIP SURVEILLANCE AND GO TO MEXICO? >> THAT'S A QUESTION THAT'S
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| 00:39:25 |
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WELL BEYOND MY AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY OR EXPERTISE. I WILL NOTE THAT OF COURSE, THERE ARE CONTROLLED BUYS IN NARCOTICS CASES IN ORDER TO PURSUE A DRUG...
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| 00:39:49 |
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WE INVITE BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE WHO CAN TELL US DEFINITIVELY WHEN THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE KNEW THAT GUNS WERE GOING INTO MEXICO? WHO WOULD YOU...
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| 00:40:03 |
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PURSUING THE RIGHT TRACK, IF I CAN BE SO PRESUMPTUOUS. YOU'RE OBTAINING DOCUMENTS, INTERVIEWING WITNESSES, YOU INTERVIEWED AGENT NEWELL, ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS...
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| 00:40:22 |
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STATES ATTORNEY IN ARIZONA? WHEN DID THE U.S. ATTORNEY KNOW THAT GUNS THAT WERE PART -- THIS WAS AN INVESTIGATION THAT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO DENY...
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| 00:40:43 |
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I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, CONGRESSMAN, BUT CAN I SAY I KNOW DENNIS BURKE, THE U.S. ATTORNEY THERE. HE IS A VERY HARD-WORKING, DEDICATED PUBLIC...
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| 00:41:14 |
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WITH RESPECT, GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW MR. BURKE AND I DO NOT, WOULD YOU SHARE WITH HIM WHAT WAS SAID THIS MORNING ABOUT THE DISSATISFACTION WITH...
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| 00:41:29 |
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BEEN MY EXPERIENCE, CERTAINLY NOT IN SOUTH CAROLINA, NOT IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS. THE LEVEL OF ANIMOSITY AND THE FIGHTING BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND...
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| 00:41:50 |
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OF COURSE IT IS. THERE'S NO WAY TO BUILD A HISTORICAL CASE WITHOUT PROFFERS. SINCE YOU KNOW MR. BURKE AND I DO NOT, WOULD YOU ASK HIM TO DO WHAT HE...
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| 00:42:02 |
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I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK TO HIM BUT I'M SURE HE'S MONITORING THIS HEARING CLOSELY. >> THANK YOU. >>
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| 00:42:07 |
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I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS, MR. LYNCH, FOR FIVE
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| 00:42:11 |
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MINUTES. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. JUST BRIEFLY, FOLLOWING UP ON THAT POINT, IT WOULD SEEM THAT THE APPROACH OF AT LEAST THE DEPUTY OR ASSISTANT U.S....
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| 00:42:58 |
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CONGRESSMAN LYNCH, IF I MAY, ONE THING THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION IS THAT THE UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS BROUGHT CASES INVOLVING LARGE...
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| 00:43:28 |
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OKAY. WITH THAT, I WILL YIELD THE BALANCE OF MY TIME TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND, MR. CUMMINGS. >>
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| 00:43:34 |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO SUBMIT OUR LETTER FOR THE RECORD REQUESTING THE MINORITY DAY OF HEARINGS. IT'S DATED JUNE 15th, TODAY. >>
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| 00:43:45 |
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THANK YOU. I'M IN RECEIPT OF YOUR REQUEST. >> I'M ASKING THAT
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| 00:43:49 |
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IT BE ADMITTED INTO THE RECORD, MR. CHAIRMAN. SIGNED BY MEMBERS
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| 00:43:54 |
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OF -- >> CERTAINLY. WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. >> THANK YOU VERY
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| 00:43:58 |
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MUCH. I WANT TO SAY THIS TO YOU, MR. WEICH. I'M SITTING HERE LISTENING TO ALL THIS AND I WANT YOU TO TAKE A MESSAGE BACK. SOME KIND OF WAY, WE'VE GOT...
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| 00:47:14 |
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GENTLEMAN. WE NOW GO TO THE GENTLE LADY FROM NEW YORK. >> THANK YOU, MR.
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| 00:47:21 |
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CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, MR. WEICH, FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. YOU KEEP ALLUDING TO THE INQUIRY AND THE INVESTIGATION THAT I.G....
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| 00:47:35 |
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THAT OFFICE IS CURRENTLY CONDUCTING THAT INVESTIGATION. >>
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| 00:47:38 |
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OKAY. ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT THEIR INVESTIGATION IS GOING TO CONFLICT OR INTERFERE WITH DOJ'S INVESTIGATION? >>
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| 00:47:45 |
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YOU MEAN THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION? >> YES. >> THE INSPECTOR GENERAL
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| 00:47:48 |
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HAS A GOOD DEAL OF EXPERIENCE IN AVOIDING THOSE KINDS OF CONFLICTS AND OF COURSE, THEIR WORK IS STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL. ANY REPORT THAT THEY WOULD ISSUE...
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| 00:48:04 |
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CONCERNED THAT WILL INTERFERE WITH THE DOJ'S INVESTIGATION, TO BE CLEAR? >> WE ARE NOT CONCERNED. >> WHY ARE YOU
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| 00:48:16 |
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CONCERNED THAT OUR INVESTIGATION, THERE IS AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION SO WE FEEL WE ARE NOT GETTING THE ANSWERS WE NEED, BECAUSE YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT...
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| 00:48:26 |
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ALL, WE'RE NOT SAYING THIS COMMITTEE SHOULD NOT INVESTIGATE. TO THE CONTRARY. WE RECOGNIZE THE LEGITIMATE OVERSIGHT INTERESTS AND WE ARE COOPERATING...
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| 00:48:38 |
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COULD INTERRUPT FOR A MINUTE, THERE'S A DE FACTO, IF YOU DON'T PROVIDE WHAT'S BEING ASKED, OR YOU PROVIDE WHAT WE SEE HERE, ALL THOSE REDACTED SHEETS,...
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| 00:48:59 |
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2,000 DOCUMENTS IN DIFFERENT FORMS. THE REDACTED DOCUMENTS THAT THE CHAIRMAN SHOWED, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A RED HERRING, I SAY WITH RESPECT, BECAUSE...
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| 00:49:29 |
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I THINK THIS COMMITTEE WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN STONE-WALLED AND NOT GOTTEN THE INFORMATION WE HAVE REQUESTED...
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| 00:50:01 |
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THAT OF ANY CONCERN TO YOU, THAT OUT OF NOWHERE, THERE'S THIS FAST AND FURIOUS PROGRAM THAT RESULTS IN THE DEATH OF BRIAN TERRY? >>
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| 00:50:11 |
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IT IS OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THE TESTIMONY THAT WAS PROVIDED TODAY IS OF GREAT CONCERN TO THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE INVESTIGATING IT...
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| 00:50:23 |
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FIRST TIME YOU'VE HEARD ANY OF THAT TESTIMONY? >> I'VE BEEN GENERALLY
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| 00:50:27 |
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AWARE OF IT, IN MY ROLE AS HEAD OF THE OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS, I HAVE OBVIOUSLY BEEN AWARE OF THIS FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS. >> WHEN
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| 00:50:34 |
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YOU SAY YOU'RE GENERALLY AWARE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> I'VE BEEN
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| 00:50:40 |
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INVOLVED IN PRODUCING RESPONSES TO LETTERS. I'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW TO COMPLY WITH THE COMMITTEE'S SUBPOENA. SO I HAVE BEEN AWARE. I MUST...
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| 00:50:55 |
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TO MY LAST QUESTION, DID YOU HEAR THE ISSUE THEY RAISED REGARDING RETALIATION? >>
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| 00:51:00 |
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I DID. I THANK YOU, CONGRESSWOMAN. I WANT TO ASSURE THE COMMITTEE, I THINK A NUMBER OF MEMBERS RAISED THIS, THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WILL NOT,...
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| 00:51:13 |
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QUESTION, AND I ASK THE FAMILY OF BRIAN TERRY WHAT, IF THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO ASK A QUESTION, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. SO I'M GOING TO READ THE...
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| 00:51:43 |
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ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS UNEQUIVOCALLY YES. THERE IS A FIRM COMMITMENT IN THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO BRING EVERYONE RESPONSIBLE FOR AGENT TERRY'S...
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| 00:51:54 |
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SECOND PART OF HIS QUESTION, IF THE GUNS USED IN BRIAN'S MURDER WERE A PART OF THIS OPERATION, THEN WE WOULD WANT TO KNOW WILL EVERYONE IN THE OPERATION...
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| 00:52:14 |
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WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE INVESTIGATIONS THAT ARE ONGOING, BOTH IN THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL AND HERE IS TO ENSURE THERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY FOR...
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| 00:52:40 |
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YOU. I YIELD BACK, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> WE RECOGNIZE
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| 00:52:44 |
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THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS FOR FIVE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU, MR.
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| 00:52:50 |
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CHAIRMAN. I ASSUME Y'ALL ARE INVESTIGATING VARIOUS CRIMES THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THESE GUNS, THAT ASIDE FROM THE TRAGIC MURDER OF AGENT TERRY, ARE...
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| 00:53:12 |
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ACCEPT THE PREMISE OF THE QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY PARTICULAR MURDER COULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO THIS PROGRAM. I THINK THAT ASSUMES A LOT OF FACTS,...
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| 00:53:33 |
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THE TESTIMONY OF THE AGENTS SAYING THAT THERE WAS SOME SORT OF STRATEGY THAT WE WOULD ALLOW GUNS TO MOVE UP CHAIN OF COMMAND WITH THE RATHER NEBULOUS...
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| 00:54:16 |
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AND CLEAR FROM THE AGENTS' TESTIMONY TODAY WAS THAT THE PEOPLE WITH WHOM THEY DISAGREED ON THE STRATEGIC QUESTIONS TOLD THEM AND BELIEVED THEY WERE...
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| 00:54:50 |
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SEEMS LIKE THE NEXT STEP IS YOU FOLLOW THE GUNS ALL THE WAY. THE ACTIONS THAT APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN TAKEN DON'T SEEM TO MAKE ANY RELATIONSHIP TO THE...
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| 00:55:43 |
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GOING TO MEET CONSTITUTIONAL OBLIGATION TO THE DEFENDANTS. I WOULD NOTE WHEN THE COMMITTEE INTERVIEWS POTENTIAL TRIAL WITNESSES, YOU'RE CREATING MATERIAL...
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| 00:56:00 |
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TRUTH, AND REGARDLESS WHETHER IT COMES OUT IN FRONT OF THIS COMMITTEE OR COMES OUT IN FRONT OF A TRIAL, SHOULDN'T MATTER. LET ME GO ON. YOU ALSO SAY...
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| 00:56:22 |
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WILLING TO PROVIDE A BRIEFING TO ALL OR SOME OF THIS COMMITTEE IN A CLASSIFIED BASIS ABOUT THOSE? I THINK YOU SENSE A LOT OF ANGER, I WOULD SAY ANGER...
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| 00:56:56 |
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CONGRESSMAN. FIRST OF ALL, WE WOULD BE PLEASED TO BRIEF THE COMMITTEE, WE HAVE BRIEFED THE COMMITTEE AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. IT SHOULD NOT BE ADVERSARIAL....
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| 00:57:16 |
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MY REMAINING 30 SECONDS TO THE CHAIR. >> THANK
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| 00:57:19 |
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YOU. YOU MADE A STATEMENT IN THAT LETTER THAT YOU SIGNED ON THE 4th THAT SAID ATF MAKES EVERY EFFORT TO INTERDICT WEAPONS THAT HAVE BEEN PURCHASED...
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| 00:57:42 |
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YOU SIGNED IT, WHO PREPARED IT. WAS IT YOU? >> THESE LETTERS ARE
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| 00:57:45 |
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THE PRODUCT OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. >> SO
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| 00:57:47 |
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YOUR SIGNATURE ON THAT LETTER DOESN'T MEAN YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE, IS THAT CORRECT? >>
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| 00:57:51 |
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I TAKE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY. >> ISN'T THAT STATEMENT
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| 00:57:54 |
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FALSE NOW WITH WHAT YOU KNOW? >> OBVIOUSLY THERE HAVE
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| 00:57:59 |
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BEEN ALLEGATIONS THAT CALL INTO SERIOUS QUESTION THAT PARTICULAR SENTENCE. >> WERE THERE DOCUMENTS
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| 00:58:04 |
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THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED AND MADE PUBLIC THAT LET YOU KNOW THAT STATEMENT WAS FALSE? >> AND THAT'S WHY
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| 00:58:08 |
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YOU'RE INVESTIGATING AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE INVESTIGATING. >> JUST TAKE YOUR AGREEMENT
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| 00:58:13 |
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THAT THOSE DOCUMENTS INDICATE THAT STATEMENT THAT YOU SIGNED THAT SOMEONE PREPARED FOR YOUR SIGNATURE WERE FALSE? >> CONGRESSMAN, I
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| 00:58:19 |
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AM NOT PREPARED TO SAY THAT AT THIS TIME. EVERYTHING THAT WE SAY IS TRUE TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE AT THE TIME WE SAY IT. AS MORE FACTS COME OUT,...
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| 00:58:31 |
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RECORD, WE WILL BE POSTING ONLINE THE 20 SOME PAGES THAT WERE MADE AVAILABLE SINCE OUT OF THE 20 SOME PAGES, THE ONLY THING THAT'S NOT REDACTED...
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| 00:59:06 |
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FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT YOU JUST WERE TALKING ABOUT. LET ME ASK YOU THIS, MR. WEICH. I WANT TO GO BACK TO BEING EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT. AGAIN, WE -- I...
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| 01:00:40 |
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YOU, CONGRESSMAN. WE STRONGLY FAVOR THAT KIND OF COOPERATIVE ACCOMMODATION PROCESS, IT IS TRADITIONAL, AND IN THIS INSTANCE WHERE WE RECOGNIZE THE COMMITTEE'S...
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| 01:00:58 |
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BE WILLING TO COMMIT TO A SCHEDULE, DOCUMENT PRODUCTION SCHEDULE? SEE, THIS IS WHAT I'M GETTING TO. WE CAN DO THIS ALL DAY. AND A NEW CONGRESS WILL BE...
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| 01:01:38 |
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TO TO HELP US. AND HOPEFULLY HELP YOURSELF AT THE SAME TIME. IF WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT, CAN WE MOVE PAST THIS? >> YES. >> BECAUSE
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| 01:01:47 |
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OBVIOUSLY THE MAJORITY FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT MOVING FAST ENOUGH, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU'RE NOT MOVING FAST ENOUGH. I KNOW YOU HAVE ALL KINDS...
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| 01:02:01 |
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SUGGEST? LET ME PUT IT ANOTHER WAY. WHAT KIND OF ARRANGEMENTS WOULD YOU SUGGEST SO THAT WE DON'T KEEP RUNNING INTO THIS WALL? >> I DON'T
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| 01:02:11 |
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THINK WE HAVE HIT A WALL. I DON'T THINK WE ARE AT AN IMPASS. I THINK WE ARE NOW ON TRACK, IT MAY HAVE BEEN A BUMPY START, BUT WE HAVE PRODUCED DOCUMENTS...
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| 01:02:42 |
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TRY TO SIT DOWN WITH US AND TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN'T -- IT IS UP TO CHAIRMAN, HE IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE, BUT SEE IF WE CAN WORK OUT SOMETHING...
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| 01:03:02 |
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DO THAT, I WOULD WELCOME THAT. ONE THING I WOULD SAY, WE DEVOTED ATTORNEYS, RESOURCES FOR THIS, WE HIRED A CONTRACTOR TO PUT THEM IN A FORM THEY CAN...
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| 01:03:17 |
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HERE IS SOMETHING I TALK ABOUT A LOT, IT IS -- AND I RECOMMEND THIS BOOK TO YOU CALLED THE SPEED OF TRUST BY CUBBY, AND HE TALKS ABOUT WHEN PEOPLE DON'T...
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| 01:03:56 |
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GENTLEMAN. AND I WILL CLOSE MORE PATIENTLY THAN I OPENED. WOULD YOU AGREE TO VOLUNTARILY PROVIDE A LIST OF DOJ AND OR OTHER PERSONNEL THAT PREPARED OR...
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| 01:04:15 |
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PREPARED TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT AT THIS TIME. THESE LETTERS ARE THE PRODUCT OF SUBSTANTIAL DELIBERATION WITHIN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH. AS I SAID....
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| 01:04:23 |
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YOU AGREE TO MAKE AVAILABLE A LIST OF PERSONNEL WHO WORKED ON AND MAY HAVE IN SOME WAY BEEN RESPONSIBLE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE MISSTATEMENT IN THE LETTER...
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| 01:04:44 |
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THAT COMMITMENT AT THIS TIME. WHAT I AM PREPARED TO COMMIT TO IS AN ON-GOING EFFORT TO HELP THE COMMITTEE GET TO THE UNDERLYING QUESTIONS HERE ABOUT...
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| 01:04:56 |
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RECORD, YOUR JOB, THE REASON YOU'RE PAID AND BASICALLY HAVE THE TITLE YOU HAVE IS TO ANSWER CONGRESS'S QUESTIONS. >> THAT'S A BIG PART OF MY JOB. >>...
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| 01:05:07 |
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FIVE MONTHS AGO, SENATOR GRASSLEY WAS TOLD BY YOUR OFFICE IN WRITING HE WASN'T GOING TO GET ANSWERS BECAUSE HE WASN'T A CHAIRMAN. YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT,...
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| 01:05:14 |
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I AM. AND THAT'S NOT AN ACCURATE STATEMENT. IF I MAY RESPECTFULLY -- >> MORE SPECIFICALLY,
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| 01:05:21 |
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THAT CHAIRMAN LEAHY WOULD HAVE TO REQUEST THEM. >> WE
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| 01:05:24 |
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ANSWERED SENATOR GRASSLEY'S LETTERS, WE HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR SENATOR GRASSLEY, WORKED ON MANY PRODUCTS OVER THE YEARS QUITE PRODUCTIVELY. IT IS THE...
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| 01:05:49 |
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YEARS IN THIS ADMINISTRATION THERE WERE NO REPUBLICANS ABLE TO MAKE THE REQUESTS AND HAVE THEM GRANTED, AND THE REQUESTS GENERALLY WERE NOT MADE AT...
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| 01:08:59 |
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MESSAGE YOU SEND TO HIGHER-UPS WOULD INCLUDE BOTH SIDES, STAFF FROM BOTH SIDES. >> THAT'S EXACTLY
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| 01:09:06 |
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THE INTENTION. IT IS A SIMULTANEOUS. OUR POLICIES, AND FOR THOSE THAT MAY WANT TO BE AWARE OF IT, OUR POLICIES ARE THAT IN FACT ANYTHING THAT IS RECEIVED...
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| 01:09:59 |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE YOUR RECOGNITION, BUT I CAN'T SORT OF NEGOTIATE THIS KIND OF THING AT THE WITNESS TABLE, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU, WE WILL WORK...
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| 01:10:15 |
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THAT. THIS HAS BEEN DIFFICULT. I WILL GO AGAIN LAST ON THE RECORD THAT WE BELIEVE THERE HAS BEEN SOME BREAK THROUGH IN THE LAST WEEK OR SO. WE ARE...
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