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WE ARE EXCITED FOR YOU TO BE HERE AND YOUR LEADERSHIP HERE. WE NEED TO TALK OFFLINE ABOUT THIS GREAT SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, AND...
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| 00:05:57 |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR WELCOMING ME TO THE COMMITTEE. THIS IS A NEW AND EXIEPTING OPPORTUNITY FOR ME. I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING...
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| 00:08:58 |
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VERY MUCH. WE WELCOME THE NEWEST MEMBER TO THE COMMITTEE AND TO THE SENATE, SENATOR HELLER, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. GO AHEAD, SENATOR KERRY. >> WELL,...
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| 00:09:14 |
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YOU BOTH, CHAIRMAN. WELCOME TO OUR NEW MEMBERS ON THE COMMITTEE. MR. CHAIRMAN, THANKS FOR HOLDING THIS HEARING TODAY. IT'S OBVIOUSLY ONE ATTRACTING...
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MR. ROCKEFELLER. >> THANK
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YOU. I ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH EVERY WORD AND COMMA, PERHAPS EVEN A SEMICOLON THAT YOU SAID, SENATOR KERRY. I THINK IT'S JUST WRONG FOR PEOPLE TO BE...
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| 00:19:09 |
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RISKY. [LAUGHTER] >> YEAH, BUT IT
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| 00:19:11 |
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ALSO SHOWS THE INTENSITY OF THIS WHOLE THING. YOU CAN'T -- IT'S GOT TO BE UNDER YOUR PILLOW, YOU JUST CAN'T BE WITHOUT IT. SO I THINK THE ONLINE PRIVACY...
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| 00:23:58 |
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CHAIRMAN. WITH THE COMMITTEE'S PERMISSION, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS GO TO THE FIRST PANEL, AND OUR FIRST PANELIST TODAY IS DAVID VLADECK, DIRECTOR OF...
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| 00:24:36 |
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CHAIRMAN ROCKEFELLER, I'M DAVID VLADECK. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES IN THE MOBILE MARKETPLACE. THE VIEWS EXPRESSED IN THE...
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| 00:30:30 |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND BECAUSE WE HAVE A FULL COMMITTEE HERE, ALMOST A FULL SUBCOMMITTEE, I JUST WANT TO ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND I'LL TURN IT...
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| 00:31:08 |
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THIS ISSUE IN THE PRIVACY REPORT, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE DID THIS PRIVACY RETHINK AT THE OUTSET WAS BECAUSE EVEN ON BIG SCREENS, PRIVACY POLICIES...
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| 00:31:54 |
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DISCLOSURE? >> BOTTOM LINE DISCLOSURE
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| 00:31:58 |
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JUST IN TIME. >>
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| 00:31:59 |
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OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE GEOLOCATION TRACKINGS ABILITY. IS THERE A PARTICULAR REASON WHY GEOTRACKING WOULD BE AVAILABLE IN SOME APPS? >> WELL,...
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| 00:32:13 |
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YOU'RE USING A MAP FUNGS, GEOLOCATION ENHANCES FUNCTIONALITY. THAT DOESN'T EXPLAIN WHY OTHER APPS THAT DO NOT NEED GEOLOCATION DATA FOR FUNCTIONALITY...
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| 00:33:02 |
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MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT THIS, THEY HAVE NO CLUE THAT THIS DATA IS BEING TRANSMITTED OR SHARED WITH ANYONE. THEY HAVE NO IDEA....
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| 00:33:27 |
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AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. PEOPLE ARE NOT TOLD WITH WHOM THE DATA IS GOING TO BE SHARED, AND SO IT'S HARD TO POINT THE FINGER AT THE CONSUMER....
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| 00:33:45 |
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ORDER OF -- THAT I WAS GOING ON CALL ON FOLKS, CHAIRMAN ROCER FELLER, AND THE EARLY BIRD RULE -- >> I CAN
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| 00:33:56 |
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BE AT THE END. >> NO, YOU'RE
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| 00:34:03 |
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NOT. MR. CHAIRMAN? >>
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| 00:34:13 |
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OKAY. SINCE 2000, THIS HAS BEEN IN EFFECT. IT PROHIBITS COMPANIES TARGETING CHILDREN 12 YEARS OLD ON YOUNGER. IT IS WIDELY DISREGARDED, DO YOU AGREE?...
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| 00:34:30 |
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I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. WE DO FAIRLY AGGRESSIVE ENS FORCEMENT. WE HAD A SETTLEMENT AGAINST THE LARGEST CHILDREN GAMING COMPANY,...
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| 00:34:51 |
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IT AT LEAST? >> AND THE ORDER APPLIES
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| 00:34:54 |
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NOT SIMPLY TO THE INTERNET -- >> I KNOW THIS WOULD NOT
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| 00:34:58 |
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BE AVAILABLE WITHOUT PARENTS' CONSENT; CORRECT? >> IT SHOULDN'T HAVE
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| 00:35:04 |
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BEEN AVAILABLE, CORRECT. THE VIOLATION WAS RETAINING INFORMATION WITHOUT PARENTAL CONCEPT. >> THERE'S
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| 00:35:14 |
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APPLICATIONS AVAILABLE FOR iPHONES AND ANDROID PHONES. THEY QUALIFY IN MY MIND AS AN ONLINE SERVICE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY QUALIFY IN THEIR MIND...
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| 00:35:29 |
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WORKSHOP IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR TO DISCUSS EXACTLY THESE ISSUES, AND I THINK THERE WAS WIDESPREAD CON CONSENSUS FOR EXAMPLE TO USE YOUR ILLUSTRATION THAT...
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| 00:36:01 |
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HAVE TO PROVIDE CONSPICUOUS NOTICE, CONSPICUOUS NOTICE ON WHAT PERSONAL INFORMATION IS COLLECTED AND HOW IT IS BEING USED? >> THAT IS WHAT
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| 00:36:12 |
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THE STATUTE SAYS. >> THAT IS UNDER THE
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| 00:36:15 |
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LAW. RECEIVE PARENTAL CONCEPT AND PROVIDE PARENTS WITH ALL INFORMATION COLLECTED ABOUT THEIR KIDS. NOW, ANY OF THESE PROVISIONS, A VIOLATION OF ANY...
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| 00:36:47 |
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WE HAVE DONE QUITE A NUMBER OF CASES LATELY, AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF INVESTIGATIONS ONGOING INTO THE MOBILE SPACE INCLUDING APPS DIRECT THE TO CHILDREN...
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| 00:36:59 |
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TO CHILDREN. >> ALL RIGHT. I PRESUME YOU BELIEVE APPS DIRECTED TO KIDS UNDER 13 ARE COVERED BY COPA? >> THAT IS
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| 00:37:11 |
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CORRECT. >> APPS DESIGNED
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| 00:37:13 |
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TOWARDS KIDS WITH CARTOON CHARACTERS AND GAMES ARE COLLECTING INFORMATION AT TIMES WITHOUT ADEQUATE DISCLOSURE, WOULD YOU AGREE? >> I BELIEVE THAT IS
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| 00:37:25 |
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CORRECT. NOW COPA HAS BEEN AN EFFECTIVE TOOL TO PROTECT PRIEF PRIVACY ONLINE. NOW, GIVEN THE GROWTH OF MOBILE DEVICES BY CHILDREN, EVEN TO THE AGE OF...
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| 00:37:44 |
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WE'RE DOING TWO THINGS. ONE IS AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE ARE LOOKING FOR GOOD ENFORCEMENT TARGETS IN THIS SPACE, AND WE WILL BE BRINGING OTHER ENFORCEMENT...
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| 00:37:56 |
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FOR GOOD ENFORCEMENT?" >> CASES LIKE
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| 00:38:02 |
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PLAYDOM VIOLATING SUBSTANTIAL PORTIONS OF THE ACT, AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF KIDS WERE PLAYING THESE ONLINE GAMES. IN PART OF WHAT WE DO IN THE ENFORCEMENT...
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| 00:38:25 |
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ALL TESTIFIED BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE LAST YEAR, ON YOUR PLANS TO REVIEW COPA RULES, ONE OF THE ISSUES DISCUSSED AT THAT HEARING WAS THE RULES APPLICABILITY...
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| 00:38:43 |
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IS CORRECT. >> AND
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| 00:38:45 |
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SO THAT'S, I THINK, ABOUT A YEAR LATER, SO I'M KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOST TEN AND A HALF MONTHS. >> WELL,
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| 00:38:59 |
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WITH ALL DO RESPECT, THE TIME HAS NOT BEEN LOST. IT RAISED PUBLIC POLICY ISSUE, AND WE WANT TO GET THIS RIGHT, AND SO YOU CAN EXPECT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW,...
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| 00:39:16 |
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OFTEN IN GOVERNMENT. PEOPLE HAVE TO PUT OUT RULES, PUT OUT REGULATIONS. WE HOPE TO GET THAT OUT IN SEVERAL MONTHS, BUT IN THE MEANTIME EVERYTHING IS...
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| 00:39:27 |
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EVERYTHING IS OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN. PLEASE UNDERSTAND -- >> YOU ARE BEING ACTIVE
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| 00:39:31 |
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IN THE MEANTIME. ALL I'M SAYING IS GET THE RULES OUT. >> WE HEAR YOU LOUD
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| 00:39:36 |
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AND CLEAR. >> THANK
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| 00:39:40 |
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YOU. >> THANK
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| 00:39:41 |
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YOU. SENATOR KERRY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
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| 00:39:43 |
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MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. TO WHAT DEGREE IS IT TRUE THAT RIGHT NOW ABSENT SOME KIND OF PROMISE TO THE CONTRARY, ANY KIND OF COMPANY OR...
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| 00:40:18 |
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ASKING WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL COULD DO, THAT MAY BE A QUESTION OF STATE LAW AND FEDERAL LAW. IF YOU ARE ASKING WHAT THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION CAN DO,...
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| 00:40:56 |
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OF A LAW OR STANDARD IN SOME STATE THAT'S BEEN APPLIED? >> I DON'T
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| 00:41:01 |
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KNOW. I'VE NEVER TAKEN A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK. >> YOU GUYS HAVE
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| 00:41:05 |
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NOT SURVEYED THAT TO DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF RIGHTS PEOPLE MAY HAVE? >> WHEN I SAY ME, I
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| 00:41:10 |
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WAS SPEAKING JUST FOR MYERS. IT MAY WELL DID OUR STAFF HAS DONE THAT. IF SO -- >> LET US
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| 00:41:16 |
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KNOW. >> I'D BE GLAD TO PROVIDE
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| 00:41:20 |
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THAT TO YOU, YES, SIR. >> WHETHER OR NOT
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| 00:41:23 |
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YOU HAVE -- YOU RAISED THIS QUESTION OF SORT OF WHERE THE FTC CAN GO WITH RESPECT TO AN AN FAIR TRADE PRACTICE SAYING IF SOMEBODY MAKES A PROMISE TO...
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| 00:41:55 |
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DO, YES. THE PRACTICE IS AN UNFAIR ONE UNDER OUR STATUTE. >> WHAT'S
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| 00:42:00 |
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THE DEFINITION OF THAT? WHAT'S THE STANDARD APPLIED TO THAT? >> WELL, IT HAS
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| 00:42:04 |
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TO CAUSE OR THREATEN TO CAUSE INJURY TO CONSUMERS, THAT THE CONSUMERS THEMSELVES COULD NOT AVOID, AND THAT THE COST TO CONSUMERS WOULD OUTWAY WHAT BENEFITS...
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| 00:42:19 |
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JUDGMENTS BROADLY WHETHER OR NOT IN FACT IT IS UNFAIR PER SE FOR THIS INFORMATION TO BE GIVEN TO A THIRD PARTY FOR INSTANCE? >> WE HAVE NOT MADE
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| 00:42:28 |
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THAT. >> WHY IS THAT NOT SOMETHING
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| 00:42:30 |
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TO THINK ABOUT? >> LET
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| 00:42:33 |
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ME DIGRESS. WE HAVE MADE THAT EXAFORT IN THE DATA SECURITY AREA. IF THERE'S A BREACH, AND YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION IS SHARED AS A RESULT OF THE BREACH,...
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| 00:42:59 |
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SHORT. I WANT TO HONE IN ON THE THINGS OUT THERE. SUPPOSING YOU HAVE A GOVERNMENT ENTITY AND GOVERNMENT INFORMATION WOULD BE A SEPARATE COMMITTEE AND...
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| 00:43:46 |
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CHRONICALLED ALL THE REASONS WE THINK GEOLOCATION DATA IS SO SPECIAL AND IMPORTANT BECAUSE UNDER STATE LAW THOSE THINGS THEY BE AVAILABLE OR THERE...
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| 00:44:18 |
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TRACK, DO NOT TRACK APPLIES TO THIRD PARTY; IS THAT CORRECT? >> THE WAY WE
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| 00:44:25 |
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DEFINED IT, YES. WHEN YOU MOVE ACROSS WEBSITES AND YOU ARE TRACKED, THAT'S WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE THIRD PARTY TRACKING. >> SO ARE APPS OPERATING
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| 00:44:37 |
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ON IPHONES ON ANDROID PHONES FIRST PARTIES OR THIRD PARTIES? >> WELL, AGAIN, IT DEPENDS
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| 00:44:46 |
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ON HOW THE APP FUNCTIONS. IF YOU PICK UP THE NEW YORK TIMES APP ON YOUR PHONE AND YOU READ THE "NEW YORK TIMES," IF YOU THEN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THEN...
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| 00:45:02 |
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LINE IS IF THEY ARE TREATED AS A FIRST PARTY, THEN DO NOT TRACK WOULD NOT APPLY ANY NEW STANDARD WHATSOEVER WITH RESPECT TO PRIVACY PROTECTION FOR THAT...
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| 00:45:17 |
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RIGHT. IF YOU'RE NOT MOVING ACROSS WEBSITES, BUT ON SOME APPS, YOU CAN DO THAT, AND THAT'S WHY IMPLEMENTATION OF DO NOT TRACK FOR APPS, NOT MOBILE...
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| 00:45:34 |
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I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE NEED FOR SORT OF BROADER, ANY NUMBERS OF REASONS, BUT I THINK THIS UNDERSCORES WHY YOU NEED THAT BASIC STANDARD AND CODE OF PRIVACY...
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| 00:45:53 |
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KERRY. SENATOR KLOBUCHAR. >>
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| 00:45:55 |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE A PROPOSITION, NOT NEARLY AS SEXY OF SENATOR ROCKEFELLER'S STATEMENT OF 72% OF AMERICANS SLEEPING WITH THEIR CELL PHONES....
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| 00:47:00 |
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NOT VERY. >>
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| 00:47:01 |
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OKAY. HOW VALUABLE DO YOU THINK A STREAMLINED POLICY AGREEMENT WOULD BE WHEN -- IN MOVING FORWARD TRYING TO SET BEST PRACTICES? >> WE DISCUSSED THIS...
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| 00:47:13 |
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GREAT DETAIL IN THE PRIVACY REPORT, BUT WE THINK PRIVACY POLICY, PARTICULARLY ON SMART PHONES, NEED TO BE SHORT, CLEAR, AND CONCISE AND BE DELIVERED...
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| 00:47:31 |
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NOT THE TRUTH NOW? >> THAT IS NOT
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| 00:47:33 |
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GENERALLY THE WAY THEY ARE DELIVERED AT THE MOMENT. >>
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| 00:47:37 |
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OKAY. SECONDLY, AND SENATOR KERRY WAS TOUCHING ON THIS, BUT I KNOW ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR THINGS IN OUR HOUSEHOLD THAT CONGRESS DID IS THE DO NOT CALL...
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| 00:48:00 |
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GOTTEN POSITIVE RESPONSES NOT JUST FROM CONSUMERS WHO OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTED THE DO NOT TRACK FEATURE, BUT AS YOU KNOW THE BROWSER MANUFACTURERS AND...
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| 00:48:31 |
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THE CHALLENGES IN IMPLEMENTING DO NOT TRACK ON MOBILE DEVICES? >> WELL, I THINK THE
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| 00:48:37 |
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ONLY CHALLENGE AS YOU PUT IT IS IMPOLICEMEN TRAITION OF -- IMPLEMENTATION OF DO NOT TRACK ON APPS. ON BROWSERS, THE TECHNOLOGY IS THE SAME. WHY WE...
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| 00:48:57 |
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FTC'S PROPOSAL DIFFER FROM WHAT APPLE AND GOOGLE ARE CURRENTLY DOING WITH THEIR SMART PHONE OPERATING SYSTEMS? >> ON DO
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| 00:49:05 |
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NOT TRACK? >> ON DO NOT
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| 00:49:07 |
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TRACK. >> WELL, THEY WOULD
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| 00:49:10 |
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DIFFER SIGNIFICANTLY. I MEAN, THE PROBLEM THAT WE FACE NOW IS THAT THERE ARE BROWSERS THAT ARE BEING ADAPTED TO ESSENTIALLY TRY TO CLEAR COOKIES AND...
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| 00:49:52 |
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OKAY. AND LAST QUESTION, DOES THE FTC CURRENTLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY THAT YOU BELIEVE YOU NEED TO PROM MULL GAIT REGULATIONS IN THE EVER-CHANGING FAR MORE...
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| 00:50:17 |
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WAYS. FIRST, WE DO NOT NORMALLY HAVE PA RULE MAKING AUTHORITY. WE DO NOT REALLY HAVE THE CAPACITY TODAY TO PROMULGATE REGULATIONS IN THIS AREA. SECOND...
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| 00:50:35 |
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ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK
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| 00:50:39 |
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YOU. SENATOR BLUNT. >> THANK YOU,
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| 00:50:43 |
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CHAIRMAN. ONE, WITH DO NOT TRACK, HOW WOULD APPS WORK? FOR AN APP TO WORK, DON'T YOU HAVE TO TRACK? >> THERE ARE APPS THAT
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| 00:50:54 |
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WHEN WE SAY TRACK -- >> MAYBE APPS IS
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| 00:50:58 |
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BROAD, BUT FOR A LOT, DON'T YOU HAVE TO TRACK? >> AGAIN, THERE'S
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| 00:51:02 |
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CONFUSION ABOUT TRACKING IN THE MOBILE BECAUSE IT TAKES ON TWO MEANINGS. ONE IS BEING FOLLOWED FROM ONE WEBSITE TO ANOTHER. THAT'S TRACKING ON THE
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| 00:51:10 |
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INTERNET. >> RIGHT. >>
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| 00:51:11 |
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OF COURSE IN THE MOBILE, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL COMPLEXITY BECAUSE YOU CAN BE PHYSICALLY TRACKED. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M
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| 00:51:21 |
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ASKING. >>
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| 00:51:22 |
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OKAY. I DIGRESS. MANY APPS THAT USE GEOLOCATION DATA FOR FUNCTIONALITY PURPOSES YOU NEED TO ENABLE THE GEOLOCATION FIGURES ON YOUR PHONE TO USE THAT....
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| 00:51:45 |
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RIGHT. >> IT'S THAT THERE ARE
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| 00:51:47 |
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OTHER APPS THAT ARE PULLING DOWN GEOLOCATION DATA WHICH HAS NO RELATION AT ALL TO FUNCTIONALITY, AND OFTENTIMES THE CONSUMERS IS UNAWARE THAT THE...
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| 00:52:15 |
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HOW HARD WOULD IT BE TO REACH THAT DEFINITION OF WHERE YOU ARE NOT -- YOU'RE NOT ALLOWING TRACKING FOR SOME THINGS, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND IT HAS TO HAPPEN...
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| 00:52:28 |
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THE LITMUS TEST WOULD BE FUNCTIONALITY. AS I JUST EXPLAINED, WE DON'T HAVE RULE MAKING AUTHORITY IN THAT AREA, SO TO THE EXTENT THERE'S DEFINITIONAL...
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| 00:52:45 |
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ABOUT EMPLOYEES AND DIVORCE CASES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, HOW IS THIS GEOLOCATING DATA RETAINED? IS IT IN A WAY THAT YOU REALLY COULD GO BACK AND SORT...
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| 00:53:06 |
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LAW CASES INVOLVING DIVORCE AND OTHER ISSUES IN WHICH GEOLOCATION DATA HAS BEEN SUBPOENAED NOT JUST FROM THE WIRELESS COMPANIES, BUT FROM OTHER COMPANIES...
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| 00:53:24 |
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BEEN DONE AND CAN BE DONE? >> I BELIEVE THAT IS
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| 00:53:26 |
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THE CASE, SIR. >> WHAT ABOUT DATA
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| 00:53:29 |
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SECURITY BREACH? SOMETHING ELSE YOU MENTIONED. IS THAT MORE LIKELY WITHIN THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT THAN IF YOU HAD A LOT OF PRIVACY SIGN OFFS AND ON...
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| 00:53:42 |
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CALLED FOR LEGISLATION TO ENHANCE BOTH THE PRIVACY PROTECTIONS, THE SAFEGUARD COMPANIES ARE REQUIRED TO USE WHEN THEY STORE SENSITIVE INFORMATION SUCH...
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| 00:54:26 |
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THIS LATER, BUT I'M WONDERING HOW ACTUALLY INDIVIDUAL SPECIFIC THOSE ARE IN TERMS OF ANY COLLECTION MATRIX THAT THE COMPANY DOES, OR DO THEY JUST HAVE...
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| 00:54:47 |
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STREET JOURNAL" DID AN ARTICLE ON THIS PRECISE ISSUE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, AND THE DATA IS SO ROBUST, THERE ARE NOW ALGORITHMS TO GUESS WHERE YOU...
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| 00:55:17 |
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THAT BECAUSE I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GUESS WHERE THE SENATE'S GOING TO BE NEXT. [LAUGHTER] MAYBE I NEED TO FIGURE OUT THAT ALGORITHM THAT LETS ME KNOW...
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| 00:55:29 |
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MUCH. >> THANK
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| 00:55:31 |
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YOU. SENATOR McCASKILL. >> ONE OF
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| 00:55:34 |
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THE THINGS MISSING FROM THIS IS THE VALUE THAT A LOT OF THIS ACTIVITY PROVIDES TO THE CONSUMER. I'LL GIVE ONE EXAMPLE. THE VALUE OF BEING ABLE TO LOW...
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| 00:57:21 |
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WAS PART OF THE DATA COLLECTION EFFORT WE DO AS PART OF OUR PRIVACY REVIEW. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S NO DISAGREEMENT THAT CONSUMERS VALUE...
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| 00:58:14 |
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THANK YOU. IT MADE THE WHOLE INTERNET FREE IS BEHAVIORAL MARKETING, SO I'M ANXIOUS WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEW BUSINESS MODEL WILL BE? >> WELL, I THINK...
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| 00:58:24 |
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CONSUMERS, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DO NOT TRACK, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN ALL OR NOTHING CHOICE. ONE OF THE REASONS THE ADVERTISERS ARE ENGAGED BECAUSE...
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| 00:59:32 |
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SURE THAT WE HAVE LOOKED CAREFULLY AT WHAT THE COSTS ARE AND CAREFULLY AT WHAT IMPACT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PART OF OUR ECONOMY...
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| 01:00:51 |
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THANK YOU. NOW I WANT TO ASK MY ROUNDS I STILL HAVE TWO MINUTES LEFT ON MY QUESTIONS, AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS GO AHEAD AND FINISH MY QUESTIONS AND...
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| 01:01:52 |
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AND I WILL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU. >> DURALAST THE
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| 01:01:56 |
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SECOND PANEL AS WELL. THE THIRD THING BEFORE I LET YOU GO IS I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE IN NET PURCHASES, AND I KNOW THAT I'VE WRITTEN A LETTER TO THE...
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| 01:02:16 |
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NUMBER OF NONPUBLIC INVESTIGATIONS. I THINK THE SIMPLEST WAY TO PUT IT IS NO PARENT HANDS A CHILD A PHONE WITH A GAME EXPECTING TO RUN UP A BILL OF...
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| 01:02:51 |
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE AND TESTIMONY AND I AM CERTAIN SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL HAVE MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE RECORD AS WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO...
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| 01:03:02 |
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PLEASURE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO EXCUSE
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| 01:03:04 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THIS PANEL AND BRING UP THE SECOND PANEL. AND IN ORDER TO SAVE TIME, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE VERY BRIEF INTRODUCTIONS AS THEY ARE GETTING...
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| 01:04:28 |
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YOU. CHAIRMAN ROCKEFELLER, CHAIRMAN PRYOR, RANKING MEMBER TOOMEY, THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO TESTIFY TODAY. MOBILE PHONES IN THE INTERNET BRING A...
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| 01:10:12 |
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YOU. MR. REED? >> THANK YOU,
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| 01:10:17 |
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CHAIRMAN PRYOR, RANKING MEMBER TOOMEY AND DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY. AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IRA PRESENT OVER...
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| 01:15:09 |
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YOU. MS.
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| 01:15:12 |
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NOVELLI? >> GOOD MORNING ON A GERMAN WRITER, CHAIRMAN ROCKEFELLER AND MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE. MY NAME IS CATHERINE NOVELLI 39 VICE PRESIDENT FOR...
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| 01:20:20 |
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PRYOR, CHAIRMAN ROCKEFELLER, MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE MY NAME IS ALAN DAVIDSON AND I'M DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC POLICY FOR GOOGLE AND NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA....
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| 01:25:35 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
YOU. >> -- PROTECTING PRIVACY IN
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| 01:25:41 |
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THIS MARKET THE STAKES ARE HIGH ESPECIALLY FOR THE NATION'S KIDS. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TWO THINGS TODAY. WHY IS PRIVACY SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AND...
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| 01:31:09 |
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MUCH. AGAIN, WE ARE GOING TO DO FIVE MINUTE ROUNDS ON THE QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE TO START WITH YOU IF I CAN, MR. REED, AND I WANT TO ASK ABOUT "THE WALL...
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| 01:32:05 |
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A GREAT THING TO LOOK AT IN TERMS OF ONE OF THE BEST THINGS ABOUT "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" ARTICLE IS THE HELP TO AN EDUCATION JOB THAT WE IN THE...
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| 01:33:56 |
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ONE THAT LOOKED MORE. BUT MR. DAVIDSON, WHEN YOU OPEN YOUR ANDROID PHONE AND THAT SCREEN CAME UP IF YOU WANTED TO YOU COULD CHECK NO FOR THE TRACKING...
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| 01:34:13 |
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THAT'S GREAT. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU START USING THE PHONE AND ADDING APPLICATIONS THAT DO REQUIRE THE JEAL LOCATION. >> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION
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| 01:34:25 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION. THE WAY THAT WE ADDRESS THAT WHEN YOU TRY TO INSTALL AN APPLICATION THAT WANTS TO USE LOCATION SERVICES, YOU GET A...
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| 01:35:09 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MENTIONED YOUR FIVE PRINCIPLES THAT YOU LIKED IT WHEN I HEAR MR. DAVIDSON AND OTHERS TALK OF A ALSO KNOW THAT THERE ARE VERY LEGITIMATE REASONS WHY...
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| 01:35:35 |
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QUESTION. WE HAVEN'T CONTEMPLATED THE BEST ANSWER IS WE SHOULD GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT AND OF COURSE IT WOULD DEPEND ON OF THE AGE OF THE CHILD. >>...
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| 01:35:47 |
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TWO TEENAGERS -- [LAUGHTER] LET ME SAY THAT THERE IS A PARENTAL INTEREST. IT COULD BE A GOOD THING DEPENDING ON THE FAMILY. BUT ANYWAY, I HOPE HE WILL...
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| 01:36:32 |
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AGREE. WE CAN'T SAY FOR SURE IF THEY'VE READ. WE TRY TO MAKE IT IN PLAIN ENGLISH AND VERY SHORT, BUT WE CAN'T TELL, WE CAN WATCH SOMEONE READING IT....
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| 01:36:43 |
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HOW LONG THEY ARE ON THE SCREENS, DO YOU HAVE ANY WAY OF KNOWING THAT? >> I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE
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| 01:36:49 |
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CAN OR CAN'T. I HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. >> FOR A LOT OF FOLKS IT
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| 01:36:54 |
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IS TOO MUCH INFORMATION WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY ARE AGREEING TO BUT THAT IS ANOTHER MATTER THAT WE CAN DISCUSS. SENATOR ROCKEFELLER? >> THANK...
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| 01:37:08 |
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CHAIRMAN. MR. TAYLOR, THIS WOULD BE TO YOU UNDER FACEBOOK'S TERMS AND CONDITIONS, A USER MUST BE 13 OR OLDER TO HAVE AN ACCOUNT ON YOUR WEB SITE. ...
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| 01:38:15 |
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SINNOTT TURKOMAN THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION AND ACTUALLY IS NEWS TO ME. FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCOUNTS UNDER THE AGE OF 13, BUT IF...
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| 01:41:37 |
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WANT TO SAY WE EMPHATICALLY AGREE WITH YOUR POINTS AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE ISSUES. FIRST, WHENEVER WE FIND OUT THAT SOMEONE HAS MISREPRESENTED...
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| 01:42:01 |
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WE DON'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO MISREPRESENT THEIR AGE, HOW CAN YOU DO THAT? >> IT'S A GOOD
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| 01:42:07 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
QUESTION AND SOMETHING WE SAW A LOT ABOUT. WHAT WE FOUND IS THE MOST SCALABLE WAY BOTH IN TERMS OF AGE ENFORCEMENT AND ALSO THE OTHER ISSUES THAT YOU...
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| 01:43:43 |
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TIME IS UP AND I WANT TO GET A COMMENT. I APOLOGIZE. >> NO
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| 01:43:51 |
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PROBLEM. >> ON THE SAME
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| 01:43:55 |
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QUESTION? >>
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| 01:43:56 |
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CORRECT. >> OUR VIEW AGAIN
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| 01:43:57 |
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IS NOT ENOUGH IS BEING DONE. IF WE TOOK A SMALL AMOUNT OF THE TIME ANY OF THE COMPANY SPENT IN A FEEDING PRODUCTS AND START TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE PROTECT...
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| 01:44:49 |
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. SENATOR KLOBUCHAR? >>
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| 01:44:54 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THANK YOU. WE'VE BEEN TALKING SOME ABOUT HOW WE GET PRIVACY POLICIES THAT ARE UNDERSTANDABLE AND READABLE AND I KNOW THAT MR. DAVIDSON WHEN YOU WERE...
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| 01:45:31 |
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SHOULD HAVE A UNDERSTANDABLE PRIVACY POLICY. WILL MAKE A REQUIREMENT AND TRY TO MAKE IT AS POSSIBLE FOR THE SMALL BUSINESSES TO USE IT. >> THANK
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| 01:45:53 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
YOU. MS. NOVELLI, YOU ARE ASKED BY SENATOR COBURN AMONG JUDICIARY AS WELL I WOULD CONDUCT THE TRANSCRIPT IN THE JUDICIARY HEARING YOU'RE SAYING HOW...
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| 01:46:31 |
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FOR ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS BETTER IN OUR DEVELOPER AGREEMENT. ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE. YOU MUST GET PERMISSION FROM TO SHARE INFORMATION...
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| 01:47:35 |
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YOU'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE AREA OF TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE SET OF GUIDELINES THAT WILL FOLLOW POLICIES, AND I SUPPORT THAT EFFORT. ...
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| 01:48:06 |
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THERE'S TWO PARTS. THE SELF REGULATORY APPROACH IS THE WAY TO START BUT IT'S NOT A SELF-REGULATORY, WE HEARD EARLIER FROM THE FTC WE THINK THE FTC HAS...
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| 01:48:54 |
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THEN MR. TAYLOR I KNOW SENATOR ROCKEFELLER WAS ASKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF KIDS WHO MIGHT BE CLAIMING FOR KIDS UNDER 18. DO YOU SEE A DIFFERENT WAY OF...
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| 01:50:11 |
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SENATOR McCASKILL'S POINT MODEL SHARING IS BAD AND MUCH OF IT CAN BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CONSUMER AND THIRD-PARTY. THE QUESTION IS WHERE YOU DRAW THE LINE...
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| 01:50:37 |
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QUESTION, SENATOR. IF BTO TARGETING OR ADVERTISING IS SO USEFUL TO CONSUMERS, THEY SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY OPT IN. SO IF I HAPPEN TO BE ON FACEBOOK...
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| 01:52:13 |
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RESPOND AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT A LITER. >> THANK
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| 01:52:23 |
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YOU. >> MR. TAYLOR
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| 01:52:24 |
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AND MR. DAVIS I'M GOING TO ASK IF THERE IS ANY EXAMPLE YOU HAVE OF A PROBLEM THAT THE COMPANIES OF CORRECTED. ONE OF THE THINGS I HEAR IS WHEN THERE...
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| 01:53:09 |
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SIR. APPLE DOESN'T LOOK AT A LOGIN SYSTEM FOR THE PHONE. >> SO WHAT DO YOU
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| 01:53:14 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
DO? HOW DOES IT WORK THAT I MIGHT GET SOME ADVERTISEMENT FOR SOMETHING OR BE SOLICITED ON AN APPLICATION OR THROUGH MY MAILING ACCOUNT OR WHATEVER...
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| 01:53:32 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
NOT ADVERTISEMENTS ON THE ACCOUNT IS ON YOUR IPHONE. YOU COULD GET AN ADVERTISEMENT THERE IS A WEB BROWSER THAT IS JUST LIKE IF YOU USE YOUR COMPUTER...
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| 01:53:57 |
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ON SOMETHING FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. >> THAT'S CORRECT,
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| 01:54:02 |
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SIR. WHAT IS A CROWD SOURCE DATABASE? >> THAT IS ESSENTIALLY BUT IT
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| 01:54:08 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IS IS A MAP OF THE LOCATIONS, THE JEAL LOCATIONS OF THE CELL PHONE TOWERS AND WI-FI HOT SPOTS THAT WE DERIVE FROM INFORMATION THAT IS ANONYMOUSLY SENT...
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| 01:55:03 |
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IF YOU THINK OF AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM OF SELF CORRECTED. >> I.T. WE ARE
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| 01:55:11 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
CONSTANTLY INNOVATING. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS ABOUT FIXING PROBLEMS THAT A COUPLE EXAMPLES, WE TAKE THE COMMENTS VERY MUCH TO HEART ABOUT TRYING TO DO...
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| 01:56:10 |
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MR. TAYLOR? >> IT'S
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| 01:56:11 |
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A VERY GOOD QUESTION, AND I THINK TO MR. DAVID 65-POINT IN THE INDUSTRY WE ARE CONSTANTLY WORKING TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF THE PRODUCTS BECAUSE IT IS...
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| 01:57:00 |
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SOMETHING FOR A LITTLE CLARIFICATION WE NEED TO PROTECT KIDS FROM PERMANENT DAMAGE. I ASSUME THAT MEANS IF THEY PUT SOMETHING ON OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE...
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| 01:57:35 |
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IS SMALL ONLY PUBLIC WHEN SOMEONE PUTS IT UP WHICH IS HARD TO CONTROL, BUT IT IS PERSISTENT. IT'S VERY HARD TO TAKE THE INFORMATION DOWN. WE TALKED ABOUT...
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| 01:58:01 |
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ELSE CAPTURE IT AND THEN THEY HAVE IT? >> THAT'S
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| 01:58:05 |
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THE PROBLEM. >> BUT THAT'S THE PROBLEM
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| 01:58:07 |
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OF PUTTING IT OUT THERE. IF SOMEONE ELSE CAN CAPTURE IT AND THEN THEY CAN SHARE IT. AM I ROANE? >> THAT IS THE
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| 01:58:15 |
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PROBLEM. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU
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| 01:58:18 |
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STOP PERMANENT DAMAGE IF SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING THAT'S DAMAGING UNLESS IT JUST HAPPENS THAT NOBODY SEES IT AND NOBODY ELSE DECIDES THEY WANT TO USE...
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| 01:59:50 |
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CHAIRMAN. >> I GOT EACH WEEK FOR MY
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| 01:59:53 |
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LAST ROUND OF QUESTIONS I WANT TO ADDRESS. I DIDN'T MEAN TO SOUND FLIPPANT ABOUT IT. I DON'T KNOW IF AMD AND ROOM, BUT IF YOU ARE. WHAT I WAS TRYING...
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| 02:03:36 |
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FIRST. YOU RAISE A GOOD QUESTION AND I SAY THAT I OFTEN ON TEAMS LIKE THAT SAYING NO ONE ASKS ME CAN I SHARE YOUR LOCATION, I JUST TURN IT OFF. THE...
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| 02:05:03 |
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APPLE WILL DO ANYTHING TO STOP THE AMAZING FLOW OF APPLICATIONS THAT ARE MAKING YOUR PRODUCT SO DESIRABLE TO MAKE IT. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME IN SOME OF...
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| 02:06:06 |
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ALL, THEIR APPS ON THE APP STORE AND MY HUSBAND IN FACT HAS DOWNLOADED A COUPLE OF THEM WERE YOU HAVE A CHOICE. EITHER IT'S FREE AND YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT...
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| 02:06:30 |
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TO. I WANT YOU TO MAYBE SAY PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE CHOICE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO PAY OR WHETHER THEY WANT THE ADDED. >> AND DEVELOPERS
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| 02:06:39 |
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HAVE BEEN MAKING THAT CHOICE AND THERE ARE THOSE CHOICES ON THE STORE NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. REED WANTS TO COMMENT. >> BY CANDLES FOR
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| 02:06:48 |
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ONE SECOND. WHAT YOU DESCRIBE IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WE APPRECIATE THAT APPLE AND AMAZON AND GOOD AND OTHERS ARE DOING PURCHASING, BUT REMEMBER...
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| 02:07:15 |
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I KNOW. I DO WANT TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT IS NOT CLEAR. I GET LIGHT, I GET FREE AND I GET PAID, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHEN I'M MAKING...
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| 02:07:45 |
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CLEAR. >> I'M FOLLOWING
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| 02:07:47 |
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A LIST AS COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU VERY
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| 02:07:50 |
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MUCH. I KNOW THE CHAIRMAN IS SECURE, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE HIM HOLDING THIS HEARING AND ALL OF YOU RESPONDING TO THE QUESTIONS OF THE PANEL. AS YOU...
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| 02:10:12 |
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WELL, SENATOR, WHEN WE RECEIVED YOUR LETTER, THE FIRST THING WE DID IS LOOK INTO THIS AND TRY TO RESEARCH THE WHOLE SITUATION BECAUSE APPLE, OF COURSE...
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| 02:11:11 |
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THAT SENTIMENT. WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN RAISED. WE DO REMOVE APPLICATIONS FROM THE ANDROID MARKETPLACE THAT...
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| 02:11:51 |
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STATED POLICY, YOU DON'T -- YOU HAVE A POLICY THAT YOU DON'T ENCOURAGE WITH THEIR APPS PEOPLE TO BREAK THE LAW, IS THAT CORRECT? ISN'T EXACTLY WHAT...
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| 02:12:42 |
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ARE REVIEWING -- >>
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| 02:12:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WELL COME YOU'VE HAD TWO MONTHS. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO REVIEW IT? >> WELL, WE WILL
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| 02:12:47 |
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BE WORKING WITH YOU ON THIS. WE ARE REVIEWING IT. THERE ARE -- THERE IS SOME APPS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT HAVE A CAP NUMBER FOR YOU TO CALL A CAB, ALERT YOU...
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| 02:13:26 |
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AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I HOPE THAT YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE STATE POLICE, COUNTY POLICE, SHERIFFS,...
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| 02:15:23 |
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APPRECIATED. >> THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU TO THE WITNESSES BEING HAIRIER. >> SENATOR
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| 02:15:29 |
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RUBIO. >> THANK YOU
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| 02:15:30 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FOR BEING A PART OF THIS. THIS IS A VERY TIMELY AND INTERESTING. JUST TO CLOSE THE LOOP ON THE APPLE PORTION OF IT AS AN APPLE USER WITH A LOT OF APPLE...
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| 02:16:11 |
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SIR. IS THAT THEY SEVERED IT BEEN IMPLEMENTED FOR MOST OF ALL OF THE QUESTIONS. THERE WAS ONE QUESTION ON ENCRYPTION THAT IS GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED...
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| 02:16:40 |
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COMPANY'S POSITION WAS AN INTENTIONAL. IT'S A GLITCH THAT EXISTS, FOR EXAMPLE, EVEN IF THE TOGGLE SWITCH AND SAID NO, IT'S STILL A SPEEDING INFORMATION...
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| 02:16:59 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND THERE IS NO MORE -- WHICH IS WORKING PERFECTLY NOW AND IT IS NOT BACKED THAT. YOUR INFORMATION IS NOT BACKED UP TO A COMPUTER....
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| 02:17:20 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AN iPHONE, ATTITUDE IS AVAILABLE. THEY STILL HAVE TO PULL THE UPDATE IN THE DEVICE? >> WHEN THEY THINK THEIR
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| 02:17:29 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
PHONE, BUT COULD A NOTICE SAYING THERE IS AN UPDATE AVAILABLE, DO IT WITH DOLLAR? YOU SAY YES AND IT INSTALLS ON YOUR PHONE. >> ANYONE
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| 02:17:37 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WHO HAS AN UPDATED THEIR PHONE IN THE LAST -- >> IN THE LAST TWO
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| 02:17:42 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WEEKS. >> THIS INFORMATION
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| 02:17:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IS ALL AVAILABLE FOR THEM. THE SECOND QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH RELATIONSHIP WITH THIRD PARTIES. THERE'S SOME CONFUSION BECAUSE PEOPLE GO TO THE APPLE...
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| 02:18:27 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OUR PERSPECTIVE, ONCE YOU BUY THE APP AND USE IT, YOUR RELATIONSHIP IS WITH THE APP DEVELOPER. AT THAT POINT, THE FIRST PARTY RELATIONSHIP IS WITH...
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| 02:18:43 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT. INITIALLY FOR EXAMPLE A LOT OF APPLICATIONS ARE IN TERMS OF SERVICE YOU AGREE TO WHEN YOU FIRST INSTALL IT AND THERE IS AN AGREEMENT THERE. I...
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| 02:19:06 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IMPORTANT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVE -- A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CLEAR. I KNOW ANYONE WHO SELLS AN APP GOES THROUGH GENERAL SCREENING PROCESS BUT ULTIMATELY...
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| 02:19:44 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
WE'VE INSTALLED A FLAGGING MECHANISM SO USERS CAN FLAG APPLICATIONS FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT REASONS. ONCE YOU DO IF YOU GOT A WHOLE SET OF REASONS...
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| 02:20:03 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
APPLE? >> WE HAVE AN ABILITY
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| 02:20:04 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
ON OUR APP STORE TO CONTACT US AND YOU CAN FLAG ANY CONCERNS YOU HAVE AND WOULD INVESTIGATE IMMEDIATELY. >> ASKED
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| 02:20:13 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE THE GEOLOCATION DATA COLLECTED WHEN PEOPLE CHECK IN ON THE FEATURED. IS THIS ONLY COLLECTED AT THE TIME THEY CHECK IN? >> RIGHT...
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| 02:20:25 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
FEATURE IS DESIGNED SO YOU CAN EXPLICITLY SHARE YOUR LOCATION WITH PEOPLE YOU CHOOSE AT THE TIME OF SHARING. AND SO, PLACES IS NOT A FEATURE ABOUT...
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| 02:20:44 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
MOMENT. >> YOU ACTUALLY CLICK
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| 02:20:45 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
A BUTTON THAT SAYS CHECK-IN AND THE INFORMATION GOES IN YOUR PROFILE. >> HOW LONG DO
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| 02:20:50 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
YOU GUYS? >> BEEN INFORMATION THAT
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| 02:20:54 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
YOU SHARED TIME AT THIS RESTAURANT WAS, THAT'S ON YOUR PROFILE AS LONG AS HE WANTED TO BE UNIQUE AND YOU CAN REMOVE IT FROM YOUR PROFILE AT ANY TIME....
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| 02:21:07 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
DISTRIBUTED IT ON THERE DEFINITELY? >> AKAMAI WE CONSIDER
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| 02:21:10 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IT LIKE YOU PUBLISH A STATUS UPDATE. YOU BASE A DECISION TO SHARE AND IT'S UP TO YOU OR YOU WANT TO SHARE BUT THEN IF YOU WANT TO DELETE IT. YOU CAN...
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| 02:21:20 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
SOME PEOPLE LIE ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE. BUT BASICALLY SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY GO; LOGON AND FAN HERE, THAT IS GOING TO STAY ON THERE...
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| 02:21:37 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
AND IT'S BECAUSE FUNDAMENTALLY FEW DECIDED TO SHARE A STATUS THAT DATE OR A PHOTO, WE CONSIDER THAT YOUR INFORMATION, NOT OURS. WE CONSIDER IT AN IMPERATIVE...
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| 02:21:54 |
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APPRECIATED. >> THANK
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| 02:21:56 |
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YOU. >> THANK YOU,
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| 02:21:59 |
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MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO THANK ALL THE PANELISTS. WE ARE ALL ENCOURAGED BY THE SUBSTANTIAL GROWTH IN THE WONDERFUL TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE IN THE MOBILE MARKETPLACE....
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| 02:23:14 |
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MATTER? >> ABSOLUTELY. AS I SAID IN MY TESTIMONY, WE HOLD OURSELVES TO HIGH STANDARDS ON PROVIDING TRANSPARENCY AND CHOICE CONTROL TO OUR USERS. AND...
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| 02:24:35 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
OF THE PARTICULARS YOU TALKED ABOUT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED A BEST PART IS FURTHER COMPANIES TO CONSIDER? >> YOU KNOW,
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| 02:24:42 |
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I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ADDRESSED TO OTHER COMPANIES. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT MODELS. WE THINK THIS WAS THE RIGHT THING FOR GOOGLE'S...
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| 02:25:02 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IF COMPANIES AGREE TO IMPLEMENT MORE RESTRICTIVE PRIVACY CONTROL THAT THEY'RE STILL INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TRY AND HACK INTO MOBILE DEVICES AND APPS FOR...
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| 02:25:51 |
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THE QUESTION, YES, THERE'S A COMPANY CALLED LOOKOUT THAT BUILDS A PRODUCT FOR THE ANDROID PLATFORM THAT PROVIDES SECURITY AND OUR DETECTION FOR THE ANDROID...
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| 02:26:35 |
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THINK THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF ENERGY BEING PUT INTO SECURITIES. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. DON'T BE SURPRISED IF THEY CHARACTERIZE AS THE WILD, WILD WEST....
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| 02:27:46 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
THAT CONGRESS CAN DO TO HELP ENCOURAGE GREATER PROTECTION WHEN IT COMES TO MOBILE DEVICES AND APPS OR WOULD YOU RATHER WE STAY OUT OF
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| 02:27:56 |
Unidentified Speaker, -
IT? >> WELL, IT'S A RAPIDLY EVOLVING AREA FOR SURE. THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT DATA BREACH LEGISLATION. I THINK A LOT OF US, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD SAY...
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| 02:28:25 |
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CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU FROM A
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| 02:28:26 |
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SENATOR FOR ASKING GREAT QUESTIONS. I WANT TO THANK ALL THE PANELISTS FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I KNOW WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THICKNESS SCALE, SOMETIMES COMING...
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| 02:29:19 |
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THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] >>
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