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Yoo, John C. - Visiting Fellow
AND IT IS MY PLEASURE TO BE THE MODERATOR FOR THIS PANEL ON CRA INTERROGATIONS'. RATHER THAN PRESENTATIONS FOLLOWED BY DISCUSSIONS, WE'RE GOING TO DO...
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| 00:02:21 |
Mukasey, Michael B. - Attorney General
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WITHDRAW MY STATEMENT? AS ANOTHER CHARACTER NAMED MICHAEL SAID, THIS IS NOT PERSONAL, THIS IS BUSINESS. MY BUSINESS HAS TO DO...
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| 00:06:07 |
Massimino, Elisa - Director
AS WELL. >> LET ME TURN TO OUR NEXT PANELIST. RESPONDING OR COMMENTING ON THE COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU. I WANTED TO START BY SAYING THAT I APPRECIATE THE...
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| 00:12:12 |
Thiessen, Marc A. - Visiting Fellow
THINK YOU. -- THANK YOU. WE ARGUED WHAT WAS DONE WAS NOT TORTURED. I WAS ASKED BY A MAJOR NEWSPAPER TO WRITE A PIECE DEFENDING THE USE OF TORTURE AND...
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| 00:17:54 |
Yoo, John C. - Visiting Fellow
MCCAIN BELIEVES WHAT HE IS SAYING BUT MANY OF THE THINGS HE SAID WERE MISLEADING. >> PART OF THE DEBATE, YOU HAVE TURNED IT INTO A DISPUTE OVER FACTS...
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| 00:18:48 |
Rizzo, John - Senior Deputy General Counsel
THREE DECADES A LAWYER WITH THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY. UNTIL -- YOU WERE THE ACTING GENERAL COUNSEL AT THE CIA. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT TRIP QUESTION....
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| 00:25:00 |
Yoo, John C. - Visiting Fellow
I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT ANY INFORMATION, VALUABLE INFORMATION, THESE GUYS WOULD HAVE GIVEN UP ON A SIMPLE ARMY FIELD MANUAL QUESTION AND ANSWER...
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| 00:26:05 |
Wittes, Benjamin - Senior Fellow
WHERE THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION PREFERRED TO CAPTURE THEM. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN -- [INAUDIBLE] IS THAT A LOSS TO SECURITY?...
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| 00:34:19 |
Massimino, Elisa - Director
GENERAL MATTER, THE GREATER THE INCENTIVE STRUCTURE WILL BE TO MORALLY VALUE RATHER THAN LESS. >> I WANTED TO PICK UP ON THIS BECAUSE I WANTED TO CLARIFY...
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| 00:40:45 |
Mukasey, Michael B. - Attorney General
CONFIRMATION HEARING IS WHETHER WATERBOARDING IS TORTURE. SINCE I DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE CIA DID, THEY CALLED WATERBOARDING, I COULD NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION....
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| 00:43:07 |
Thiessen, Marc A. - Visiting Fellow
PEOPLE WHO WERE WATER BOARDED SHOWED NO ILL EFFECT AFTERWARD. THAT IS THE PLAIN AND SIMPLE TRUTH. YOU CAN CALL AN 18 WHEELER AND MANY COOPER MOTOR VEHICLES...
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| 00:47:11 |
Mukasey, Michael B. - Attorney General
HE ADMITS HE HAS AN ATTACK PLAN AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAPPEN AND HE TELLS THEM, AMERICANS ARE WEAK AND DECADENT AND DO NOT HAVE THE WILL TO DO WHAT IS...
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| 00:47:44 |
Yoo, John C. - Visiting Fellow
AND USE TRUTH SERUM. IT IS ILLEGAL. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE MIND ALTERING DRUGS. THERE IS NO EXCEPTIONS. YOU CANNOT DO IT. EVEN IF THE ALTERATION...
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| 00:48:14 |
Wittes, Benjamin - Senior Fellow
THIS ADMINISTRATION DISAGREES WITH THE EFFICACY ISSUE. IT COULD BE AS EFFECTIVE AS YOU SAY BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT. FOR MANY OF THE REASONS ALISA...
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| 00:52:49 |
Rizzo, John - Senior Deputy General Counsel
BETWEEN THE LEGAL LINE AND THE PROVINCIAL WINE THAT IS QUITE BROAD AND I THINK CLEARLY ENCOMPASSES SOME FOR MANY OF THE TECHNIQUES THE CIA WAS USING....
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| 00:56:30 |
Wittes, Benjamin - Senior Fellow
TERRORIST ATTACK WAS FIRST AND FOREMOST THE OBJECTIVE. I CANNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THE SINGLE MINDEDNESS INSIDE THE AGENCY FROM THE BEGINNING TO GETTING...
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| 00:57:00 |
Massimino, Elisa - Director
THE DECISION NOT TO LIVE IN THAT SPACE IS A PRESIDENTIAL MATTER AND THE DECISION TO REVISIT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A PRESIDENTIAL MATTER. I MEANT IT AS...
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| 01:00:24 |
Yoo, John C. - Visiting Fellow
STARTED DOWN THAT ROAD BY SEIZING WATERBOARDED, BY TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN GO ABOUT ITS CLOSING GUANTANAMO. WE OUGHT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE GOING...
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| 01:00:55 |
Mukasey, Michael B. - Attorney General
FUTURE. IS THERE AN EXAMPLE OR POLICY SHOULD BE KEPT THE SAME? WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENTLY IN TERMS OF COUNTER-TERRORISM POLICY GOING FORWARD? CHAIRMAN,...
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| 01:01:55 |
Rizzo, John - Senior Deputy General Counsel
WITH THE COMMISSION'S AS OPPOSED TO ARTICLE 3 COURTS. I DO NOT KNOW -- I DO NOT THINK THE MILITARY IS IN PLACE TO RUN A PARALLEL JUSTICE SYSTEM. WE HAVE...
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| 01:05:12 |
Thiessen, Marc A. - Visiting Fellow
PROGRAM OF INTERROGATION, THE LEAST THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE AGENCY DESSERT IS CONSISTENCY. TELL THEM WHAT THEY ARE TO DO, AND GIVE THEM ADEQUATE AUTHORITY...
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| 01:08:50 |
Wittes, Benjamin - Senior Fellow
NOTHING, BUT AS LONG AS THE TERRORIST DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE FACING, THE KEY TO BREAKING THESE PEOPLE IS THAT THEY CANNOT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE FACING....
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| 01:12:06 |
Massimino, Elisa - Director
FIGURE OUT WHAT THE LONG-TERM VOLUME OF HIGH-VALUE DETAINEE'S AND TALK WALKER TO THEY ARE OR ARE NOT IN WHATEVER DETENTION IN BAIR MICKEY PUT THEM IN,...
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| 01:13:39 |
Q & A, -
HERE AT THE AMERICAN ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE, THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING MORE ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS FOR WHOM WE ARE PROJECTING AS OUR IDENTITY AS A NATION...
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| 01:15:27 |
Rizzo, John - Senior Deputy General Counsel
MANUAL INTERROGATING HIM TO FIND DOW IF YOU DO NOT HAVE CONCLUSIVE -- FIND OUT IF YOU DO NOT HAVE CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE? OR DO YOU USE IN HANDS TECHNIQUES?...
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| 01:16:17 |
Wittes, Benjamin - Senior Fellow
ANY RENEWED TECHNIQUES WITHOUT THE PERSONAL WRITTEN INTO A MONSTER OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. >> IF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES --...
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| 01:18:23 |
Yoo, John C. - Visiting Fellow
ONLY THE MILITARY WERE LIVING AROUND THE COMPOUND. THIS IS ACCORDING TO PAKISTAN, SOMEBODY NEW IN THE MILITARY THAT OSAMA BIN LADEN LIVED THERE. WE DO...
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| 01:19:04 |
Massimino, Elisa - Director
POSSIBLE THAT PAKISTAN DID NOT KNOW THAT OSAMA BIN LADEN WAS THERE GIVEN THE LOCATION, OR WAS HE BEING SHIELDED IN SOME WAY BY THE GOVERNMENT? WHAT...
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| 01:23:58 |
Thiessen, Marc A. - Visiting Fellow
BEEN CHANGED A LOT OF TIMES. IT CAN BE REVIEWED, REVISED, AND TECHNIQUES CAN BE ADDED. I WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOUR CHARACTERIZATION ABOUT HOW LIMITING...
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| 01:27:29 |
Mukasey, Michael B. - Attorney General
TIME FOR ONE REALLY FAST QUESTION. >> I AM WITH ABC NEWS. SINCE JOHN MCCAIN GAVE HIS SPEECH, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A WORD GAME GOING ON. HE SAID THAT...
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.