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IS AN HISTORIAN AND LAWYER, HE'S OUR SECOND SPEAKER. HE TEACHES AT THE UVA SCHOOL OF LAW. HE HAS PUBLISHED IN THREE FIELDS; CONTEMPORARY LAW, LEGAL...
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| 00:01:51 |
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YOU. WELL, MY BOOK OFFERS A NEW INTERPRETATION OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. YOU ONLY GET A FEW MINUTES OF IT, BUT IT DOES THAT BY LOOKING AT THE ORDINARY...
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| 00:13:14 |
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YOU. THANK YOU, BARBARA CLARK SMITH. OUR NEXT AUTHOR IS JOHN RAGOSTA. >> THANK YOU,
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| 00:13:21 |
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TATIANA. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. I GOT STARTED ON THIS PROJECT SEVERAL YEARS BACK WHEN I WAS LIVING IN CULPEPPER COUNTY, ABOUT AN HOUR NORTH OF HERE....
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| 00:22:20 |
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JOHN RAGOSTA. AND NOW JOHN FEA. >> THANK
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| 00:22:24 |
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YOU. SO, WAS AMERICA FOUNDED AS A CHRISTIAN NATION? WHICH IS IN THE TITLE OF MY BOOK. JOHN JUST TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT THIS. I SPEAK A LOT ON THE...
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| 00:31:51 |
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AUTHORS FOR DOING A MAGNIFICENT FOR KEEPING IN THE TIME LIMITS TO LEAVE MORE FOR QUESTIONS. A FEW ADMINISTRATIVE POINTS I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ONE OF...
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| 00:32:39 |
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HAS BEEN VERY FASCINATING TO ME. I'M FROM MARYLAND, THOUGH, WHERE WE'RE VERY PROUD -- [INAUDIBLE] >> AND I WONDERED WHETHER
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| 00:32:50 |
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WE TREATED THE CENTERS ANY BETTER AND WHETHER OUR CONSTITUTION HAVE THE LABOR THAT WOULD HAVE LIKE -- [INAUDIBLE] >> DID MARYLAND TREAT
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| 00:33:06 |
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THE SINNERS BETTER. BY MARYLAND HAD THROWN THE CATHOLICS OUT AND BECOME AN ANGLICAN STATE. AND ACTUALLY IN MY BOOK ONE OF THE THINGS I TALK ABOUT THAT...
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| 00:33:52 |
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DURING THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, THE FIRST -- THE MARYLAND CONSTITUTION, AFTER 1776 DOES COLLECT A TRIBUTE OR A TAX TO SUPPORT -- TO SUPPORT THE CHRISTIAN...
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| 00:34:15 |
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ROW. >> THANK
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| 00:34:17 |
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YOU. THIS IS FOR MS. SMITH. I HAVE TO ASK THE EAST NEW JERSEY PROPRIETORSHIPS AND WAS THAT FOR THE DAM AND HAVE THE SMART TOUCH SOLD THEM BACK? [LAUGHTER]...
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| 00:34:36 |
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OF NEW YORK OF THE DUKE OF YORK'S OWNERSHIP OF WHAT HAD BEEN NEW AMSTERDAM AND WAS ALSO NEW JERSEY. THERE WERE CERTAINLY DUTCH SETTLERS IN THE AREA...
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| 00:34:58 |
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ROW? >> I'M FROM
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| 00:34:59 |
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CONNECTICUT. AND I -- [LAUGHTER] >> MOST PEOPLE
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| 00:35:05 |
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MAY NOT REALIZE IN THE SOUTH THAT BAPTIST DENOMINATION BEGAN IN PROVIDENCE, RHODE ISLAND. AND THERE WAS A STRONG BIG GROUP IN DAN BURR, CONNECTICUT...
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| 00:35:31 |
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FELLOW. >> AH, I DON'T KNOW
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| 00:35:34 |
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WEILAND. SO IT'S TRUE THE 1235-POUND CHEESE WAS -- THANK YOU. >> I THINK
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| 00:35:41 |
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JEFFERSON WAS ACTUALLY SERVING THIS THING IN STATE DINNERS FOR SEVERAL YEARS. >> FOR SEVERAL
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| 00:35:47 |
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YEARS. [LAUGHTER] >>
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| 00:35:48 |
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IT ROTTED AND THEY FINALLY HAD TO TAKE IT OUT, YEAH, IT'S TRUE. SAME GUY. >> COULD YOU
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| 00:35:53 |
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COMMENT MORE FULLY ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT LETTER TO THE DANBURY BAPTISTS FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW? >> WE COULD BE HERE FOR
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| 00:36:01 |
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A LONG TIME. I'M ACTUALLY WRITING ANOTHER BOOK THAT ARE GOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT JOHN WHO IS HERE. LET ME SAY...
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| 00:37:15 |
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LIKE TO ADD TO THAT. >> YOU'RE EXACTLY
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| 00:37:17 |
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RIGHT. SOME OF THESE CLAUSES DISAPPEARED. SOME RATHER QUICKLY. I THINK SOUTH CAROLINA CONTINUES TO AFFIRM ITSELF AS A PROD -- PROTESTANT STATE. AND...
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| 00:38:00 |
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BACK, WITH THE GLASSES? [LAUGHTER] >> NOW, THIS IS FOR ALL
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| 00:38:12 |
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THREE. WHAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR DEALS WITH THE -- SEEMS TO DEAL WITH THE CHRISTIAN INHABITANTS OF NORTH AMERICA WHO ARE CLEARLY THE MAJORITY OF IN THE...
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| 00:39:01 |
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BARBARA, DO YOU WANT TO -- >>
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| 00:39:05 |
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ME? THIS IS ON ME? WELL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT -- THERE IS CERTAINLY OUR -- SOME GROUPS -- SOME JEWISH COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS...
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| 00:42:01 |
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WELL, I THINK -- THERE ACTUALLY ARE THOUSANDS OF JEWS IN THE COUNTRY AT THE TIME OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION BUT I THINK WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING ABOUT THEM...
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| 00:42:56 |
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THAT'S TRUE. >> PEOPLE --
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| 00:42:57 |
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YOU KNOW, ARE COMPLAINING, WAIT A MINUTE, THIS IS NOT A CHRISTIAN DOCUMENT AND WE MIGHT HAVE A JEWISH PRESIDENT. [LAUGHTER] >> AND SO THERE
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| 00:43:05 |
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IS THIS BACKLASH. MY ANSWER TO THAT IS, THEY LOST. THEY LOST. THEY RECOGNIZED THAT, IN FACT, THE CONSTITUTION SAYS NOTHING ABOUT PEOPLE'S RIGHTS A JEWISH...
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| 00:44:25 |
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JOHN? >> JUST REAL QUICK,
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| 00:44:29 |
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YEAH, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID. ON THE OTHER HAND, IN MOST OF THE STATES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF VIRGINIA, AT LEAST IN THE FIRST 25,...
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| 00:45:07 |
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YOU. IN THE FRONT? >> THIS IS FOR
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| 00:45:12 |
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JOHN. YOU OPENED IT UP SO YOU KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HAVE TO COME. [LAUGHTER] >>
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| 00:45:16 |
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THE FOUNDING FATHERS BEING OR NOT BEING THE -- >> WELL, I ALWAYS -- I
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| 00:45:20 |
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ALWAYS TELL MY STUDENTS, YOU KNOW -- WHEN YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT THE FOUNDING FATHERS RELIGIOUS, DON'T SAY THE FOUNDING FATHERS BELIEVED AS IF THEY HAD...
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| 00:48:31 |
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IS TURNED DOWN BY THE COMMITTEE. THERE'S A GREAT STORY WHERE ALEXANDER HAMILTON AND I DON'T THINK IT'S TRUE. WHERE HE SAID I DEN FRANKLIN'S PETITION...
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| 00:48:50 |
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WHETHER HAMILTON SAID THAT OR NOT, I DON'T THINK HE DID BUT I STILL THINK IT'S A GREAT LINE. NEVERTHELESS, IT'S ACTUALLY TURNED DOWN NOT BECAUSE THEY...
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| 00:49:07 |
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SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS -- THIS IS -- BUT THE POINT IS HERE'S FRANKLIN, A GUY WHO, YOU KNOW -- A DEIST DOESN'T CALL ON GOD TO INTERVENE IN SOME WAYS. SO...
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| 00:49:35 |
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MY EDUCATION BUT I'LL REMEMBER MRS. SCOTT SEVENTH GRADE HISTORY CLASS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS ABOUT NO. 17. AND MY QUESTION IS -- WELL, SINCE I MOVED...
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| 00:49:58 |
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THE VIRGINIAN DELEGATION PARTICULARLY MR. JEFFERSON ABLE TO CONVINCE PARTICULARLY THOSE IN THE NORTH TO ACCEPT NO. 17 AS THE ARGUMENT FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT?...
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| 00:50:10 |
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BOOK. [LAUGHTER] >> BUT I THINK THERE'S -- LET
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| 00:50:13 |
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ME GIVE YOU A SIMPLE ANSWER AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO INTO ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE. YOU HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION. AND MOST PEOPLE VIEW THE FIRST AMENDMENT...
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| 00:51:24 |
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SHOCKER. [LAUGHTER] >> BUT AFTER
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| 00:51:26 |
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THE CIVIL WAR WE GET THE 14th AMENDMENT AND THESE THINGS GET INCORPORATED. BUT THAT'S MY ARGUMENT THAT THAT'S THE COMPROMISE. THE STATES GET TO CONTINUE...
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| 00:51:51 |
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IN THE BACK OVER THERE. >> THIS IS FOR MS.
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| 00:52:00 |
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CLARK-SMITH. YOU MENTIONED AT THE START OF YOUR PRESENTATION -- YOU TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE SORT OF MIDDLING PEOPLE NOT REALLY TAKING AN INTEREST...
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| 00:52:22 |
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HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. [LAUGHTER] >> IF YOU BELIEVE
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| 00:52:27 |
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THAT. [LAUGHTER] >> THAT'S REALLY THE SHIFT
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| 00:52:29 |
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THE HISTORIANS WOULD NORMALLY SAY -- THAT'S THE SHIFT BETWEEN THE KIND OF REPUBLICAN IDEAS OF THE LATE 18th AND EARLY 19th CENTURY TO THE DEMOCRATIC...
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| 00:55:30 |
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NONETHELESS BY ACCIDENT WE COULD VOTE FOR A BRIEF PERIOD OF TIME, AND THEN IN THE 19th CENTURY YOU GET INCREASING THIS IDEA BY THE TIME OF JACKSON AND...
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| 00:55:49 |
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18th CENTURY, YOU KNOW -- IN THE 18th CENTURY, I WAS BORN IN A PALACE, THEREFORE, IS THE RULE IS THE LOGICAL THING TO CONCLUDE. IN THE 19th CENTURY,...
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| 00:56:14 |
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ASSUMPTION THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN DRIVE A TRUCK. [LAUGHTER] >> NO ONE EVER
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| 00:56:23 |
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ACTUALLY EXACTLY BELIEVES IT. THAT YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY ALSO HAVE GONE TO YALE. AND YOU HAVE TO -- YOU HAVE TO HAVE WON OVER THE MONEY. OBVIOUSLY. BUT,...
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| 00:56:51 |
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HERE, SORRY. ORANGE SHIRT NEXT. TEAL SHIRT FIRST. [LAUGHTER] >> YOU'LL BE
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| 00:56:57 |
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NEXT. >> HOW DID WE GET TO
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| 00:56:59 |
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TAKING THE OATH OF OFFICE AND IN A COURT OF LAW PUTTING YOUR HAND ON THE BIBLE? [APPLAUSE] >> I KNOW THERE'S A BIG
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| 00:57:08 |
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DEBATE. I SHOULD SAY WE FREQUENTLY AT THE SMITHSONIAN GET LETTERS FROM PEOPLE TELLING US EITHER WE ARE TOTALLY RIGHT OR WE'RE TOTALLY WRONG. AND WE...
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| 00:57:30 |
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THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT INCLUDE IT. >>
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| 00:57:32 |
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NO. >> THAT LANGUAGE
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| 00:57:35 |
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IS NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION. AND GEORGE WASHINGTON ALMOST CERTAINLY DID NOT SAY SO HELP ME GOD. NOT ONLY IS THERE NO EVIDENCE BUT THERE'S A MINISTER WHO...
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| 00:58:52 |
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EXPAND YOUR NOTION OF WHO THE FOUNDERS ARE TO INCLUDE THOSE ORDINARY PEOPLE AND BAPTISTS AS WELL AS THESE FAMOUS MEN AND THINK ABOUT THEIR RELATIONSHIPS...
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| 01:00:46 |
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BARBARA. OVER HERE IN THE ORANGE SHIRT. >> TALKING ABOUT FOUNDERS
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| 01:00:55 |
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AND THEIR PRIVATE FAITH, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE RELEVANCE OF THE PRIVATE FAITH OF THE FOUNDERS, SAY THOSE WHO WERE AT THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION?...
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| 01:01:15 |
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YEAH. I TRIED TO SUGGEST THIS WHEN I WAS, YOU KNOW, IN RESPONSE TO A PREVIOUS QUESTION. IT'S CERTAINLY A FASCINATING HISTORICAL TOPIC, YOU KNOW, WHAT...
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| 01:02:09 |
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YOU KNOW, AND I WOULD ADD, AND I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT JOHN SAYS IN HIS BOOK AND HE'S SAID TODAY. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU MEAN BY CHRISTIAN NATION,...
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| 01:03:21 |
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EVERYTHING. I MEAN, YOU HAVE SOMEONE LIKE JOHN ADAMS WHO I ARGUE IN THE BOOK IS A UNITARIAN, REJECTS THE TRINITY, THINKS OF A LOT OF RELIGION AS SUPERSTITION,...
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| 01:03:57 |
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ONE MORE QUESTION. IN THE BACK THERE WITH THE RED SWEATER. >> I'M CURIOUS TO
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| 01:04:06 |
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YOUR ANSWER. WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE SUPREME COURT TODAY THAT FEEL THEY SHOULD RULE THEIR DECISIONS ON WHAT THE PEOPLE WERE THINKING AT THE TIME OF...
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| 01:04:28 |
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ME APPOINTED TO THE SUPREME COURT, I'D BE HAPPY TO SET THEM STRAIGHT. [LAUGHTER] LOOK, THE QUESTION OF ORIGINAL INTENT IS ONE THAT HISTORIANS BY AND...
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| 01:06:05 |
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MUCH. I'D LIKE TO THANK OUR SPEAKERS TODAY. [APPLAUSE] >> KATE BUFORD, WHO WAS
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| 01:06:15 |
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JIM THORPE? >> PROBABLY OUR
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GREATEST MULTISPORT ATHLETE EVER, OF ALL
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