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Slen, Peter - Host
NOW ON WASHINGTON'S BIRTHDAY IS PROFESSOR JAMES THURBER. HE WAS THE DIRECTOR OF THE AMERICAN UNIVERSITY CENTER -- HE IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE AMERICAN UNIVERSITY...
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
AND BILL CLINTON'S SHOWDOWN WITH AND REPUBLICANS. WE SHUT DOWN GOVERNMENT FOR A FEW DAYS IN NOVEMBER OF 1985 AND FOR QUITE AWHILE IN THE BEGINNING OF...
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A SITUATION BESIDES 1985 LIKE WE ARE FACING TODAY? GUEST: IN 1974 WHEN WE
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
PASSED THE BUDGET CONTROL ACT AND WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A SERIES OF CRISES. I WORKED ON THAT BILL IN 1974. IT WAS THE BUDGET AND IMPOUNDMENT CONTROL...
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IN THE "NEW YORK TIMES" TODAY HAS AN ARTICLE. GIVEN THE LAST 30 YEARS AND YOUR 1974 REFERENCE AS WELL, WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE CURRENT DEFICIT?...
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
TO DISAGREE WITH HIM A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE CONFRONTATION BETWEEN REPUBLICANS AND CLINTON REALLY GENERATED COMPROMISE LATER ON. THE BULLS LEARNED,...
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THE UPPER HAND IN THE BUDGET PROCESS RIGHT NOW, IF THERE IS SUCH A THING? GUEST: I BEEN THE
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
PRESIDENT ALWAYS HAS THE UPPER HAND BECAUSE BUDGETS ARE INCREMENTAL. LET ME EXPLAIN. EACH YEAR IT IS A DISCUSSION OF THE INCREMENT OR DECREMENT, SLIGHT...
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THE NUMBERS ARE ON THE SCREEN. LAWRENCE SMITH, WHO WORKS FOR CAPITAL ALPHA PARTNERS HAS AND OF BED THIS MORNING IN THE "TIME" -- IN THE "WASHINGTON TIMES."...
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
VERY MUCH LIKE 1995-'96. WE HAVE TO -- WE HAVE A CONTINUING RESOLUTION. IT IS A WAY TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON THE BUDGET. THE OPTIONS ARE TO HAVE...
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FOUNDERS' PLAN FOR WHAT WE ARE FACING RIGHT NOW? IS THIS BUILDING TO OUR CONSTITUTION SOMEHOW? -- BUILT INTO OUR CONSTITUTION SOMEHOW? GUEST: IT IS ALL
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
ABOUT HOW BOAT FOUNDERS DID THIS ON PURPOSE. BLAME THE FOUNDERS. AND THE REASON WHY IS WE DID NOT WANT A KING AND WE DID NOT WANT THE BODY OF THE HOUSE,...
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INTO 19 -- WHERE WERE YOU WORKING ON CAPITOL HILL? HOST:
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WHERE YOU CALLING FROM CALLER? PLEASE GO AHEAD. CALLER: I WOULD LIKE TO
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SAY THAT TO COMMEMORATE THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE CIVIL WAR, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE DOING ALL IT TAKES TO DESTROY AN DEFACE THE UNION LABEL. THIS SEEMS...
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
IS A CIVIL WAR EVERY DAY IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE. WE HAVE STATE'S RIGHTS. BUT WE FOUGHT A CIVIL WAR OVER THAT. WHAT ARE BEING EXPRESSED FOR AND ARE THEIR...
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A QUESTION. SINCE WE HAVE THESE WARS LIKE THE IRAQ WAR AND THE AFRICAN WAR THAT IS GOING ON STILL, HOW COME NO ONE IS OBJECTING TO THE IDEA OF PAYING...
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
OF POINTS. ONE IS, WE HAVE NOT DECLARED WAR SINCE WORLD WAR II. THE CONSTITUTION IS CLEAR THAT CONGRESS HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE RIGHT TO DECLARE...
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AT THE 2012 BUDGET THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS PROPOSED AND HOW HE HAS MANEUVERED WORK NAVIGATED THROUGH THE CURRENT BUDGET SITUATIONS THAT WE FACE, HOW...
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
IS POINTING, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. HE JUST HAD A COMMISSION -- HE IS HUNTINGPUNTING , TO AN EXTENT. HE JUST HAD A COMMISSION TO LOOK AT THESE PROBLEMS...
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HAS ANY PRESIDENT NOT PUNTED?
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
GUEST: SEVERAL HAVE NOT. SOME HAVE PUNTED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. I THINK THAT GEORGE W. BUSH, WHEN HE CAME IN AND HAD TAX CUTS OVERESTIMATED -- AND...
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THE YEARS LAGRONE MORADA RISK AVERSE DOES? GUEST: CONGRESS AS A BODY
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
HAS GROWN MORE RISK AVERSE. BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WITHIN THE BODY, THERE ARE ALWAYS PEOPLE THAT WANT A BALANCED BUDGET. BUT THE BODY ITSELF COLLECTIVELY...
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SOMETHING 200 YEARS IN THE MAKING OR 30 YEARS IN THE MAKING? GUEST: IT
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
DEPENDS ON THE POLICY YOU ARE DEALING WITH. BUT WHEN 9/11 OCCURRED, WE CAME TOGETHER. WHEN PEARL HARBOR OR CURVED, WE CAME TOGETHER. WE HAVE CONSENSUS...
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
PLACE WHERE DELIBERATION OCCURS -- WHAT IS THE LIBERATION? THE LIBERATION IS BRING TOGETHER OF FACTS AND KNOWLEDGE -- AND DELIBERATION IS BRINGING TOGETHER...
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UNDER BILL CLINTON, DURING THAT TIME, THE U.S. AND THE WHOLE WORLD, FOR THAT MATTER, WAS GOING THROUGH AN INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION. THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES...
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
I THINK THOSE ARE TWO GOOD POINTS. THE FIRST POINT IS ONE THAT I WOULD HAVE MADE IF I WAS GIVING MY 55-MINUTE LECTURE. THAT IS, THE HIGH-TECH SECTOR...
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POLITICAL WILL IN OUR SYSTEM AND IN THE CURRENT CONGRESS TO DO SUCH? GUEST: I THINK
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
THE POLITICAL WILL IS THE RIGHT QUESTION. THE POLITICAL WILL, BUT EXPRESSED THROUGH THE TEA GROUP OF PEOPLE END THE FRESHMAN IS THAT THEY WILL JUST CUT,...
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ON THE INDEPENDENT LINE. THANKS FOR HOLDING. CALLER: I AM NOT REALLY
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A HARD PERSON WHO FOLLOWS WAS GOING ON, BUT WHEN CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT THERE WAS A HUGE SURPLUS. I'M SORRY, I'M A BIT NERVOUS. HOST:
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YOU ARE OK. JUST KEEP GOING. CALLER: WHEN
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BUSH CAME INTO OFFICE, EVERYTHING JUST WENT STRAIGHT DOWN WORK. THERE WAS SPENDING ON UNNECESSARY WARS, ALTHOUGH REPUBLICANS WERE FOR IT. AND THEY LEAVE...
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
WERE TWO POINTS. THE FIRST POINT MADE, WHEN BUSH CAME INTO OFFICE, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT TAX CUTS. THOSE HAVE BEEN EXTENDED UNTIL...
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THURBER, IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE LAST 20, 30 YEARS AND REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS AND DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS, THEY HAVE BEEN PRETTY ADEPT AT SWITCHING, OR...
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
WELL, LET'S PUT IT IN CONTEXT. ABOUT 80% OF THE TIME WE HAVE HAD DIVIDED PARTY GOVERNMENT. WHEN THAT OCCURS, THERE IS MORE OVERSIGHT, BUT THERE ARE ALSO...
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BOB, YOU ARE ON THE LINE. CALLER: THANKS FOR TAKING
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MY CALL. HERE IN COLUMBUS, WE ARE GOING TO THE SAME PROBLEMS THAT WISCONSIN IS GOING THROUGH, WITH REPUBLICAN ASSAULT ON WORKING PEOPLE. I CANNOT BELIEVE...
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
TO STUDY CAMPAIGN FOR YEARS. WE LOOKED AT NEGATIVE CAMPAIGNS, THE FAIRNESS OF THEM, DISTORTIONS THE PURPOSE OF THE GRANT WAS TO TRY TO IMPROVE CAMPAIGNS...
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THURBER, YOU ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON YOUR EIGHTH BOOK? GUEST: YES. HOST: WHAT IS IT ABOUT AND WHEN DOES IT COME OUT? GUEST: IT IS CALLED "OBAMA
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
IN OFFICE." IS ABOUT HIS FIRST TWO YEARS AND WHAT HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED AND WHAT HE HAS NOT ACCOMPLISHED. HE PROMISED TO CHANGE THE WAY WASHINGTON WORKS,...
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HOST: YOU SAID IN THAT ANSWER THAT NOBODY IS IN THE MIDDLE ANYMORE IN WASHINGTON. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? GUEST: IN POLITICAL
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
SCIENCE WE STUDY WHO IS A MODERATE AND WHO IS NOT. WE HAVE A DATABASE OF 1.3 MILLION OBSERVATIONS, HOW PEOPLE VOTE. AND WE DISTRIBUTE PEOPLE TO THE LEFT,...
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ABOUT THREE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. HOST:
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YOU HAVE GOT TO TURN DOWN THE VOLUME. JUST LISTEN TO YOUR PHONE AND START TALKING. CALLER: IF WE WERE ABLE
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TO STOP OF OPEC IN CHINA FROM -- AND CHINA FROM RIPPING US OFF, REDUCING DEBT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MEET YOU THINK WE WOULD NEED ANY OF THESE CUTS? ALSO,...
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
QUESTIONS. WITH RESPECT TO OPEC AND CHINA, THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE SITUATIONS. THEY HAVE TO BE MORE INTENT -- WE OUGHT TO BE MORE INDEPENDENT IN TERMS...
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HOST: THIS WEEK COMES IN -- -- TWEET COMES IN -- GUEST:
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Thurber, James A. - Founder and Director
THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. IT IS GRIDLOCK BECAUSE OF PARTISAN GRIDLOCK. I THINK WE HAVE TOO MANY WEDGE ISSUES. NO, LET ME EXPLAIN. THESE ISSUES WHERE...
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IS THE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF THE AMERICAN UNIVERSITY CENTER FOR PRESIDENTIAL STUDIES. THANK YOU FOR BEING ON THE "WASHINGTON JOURNAL." TOMORROW ON...
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.