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UP NEXT, BookTV PRESENT AFTER WORDS, AN HOUR-LONG PROGRAM WHERE WE INVITE GUEST HOSTS TO INTERVIEW AUTHORS. VETERAN JOURNALIST CAROLE SIMPSON DISCUSSES...
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| 00:00:39 |
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AM NIA HENDERSON JOINED WITH CAROLE SIMPSON ON AFTER WORDS ON BookTV. YOU HAVE WRITTEN A BOOK, YOUR AUTOBIOGRAPHY, "NEWSLADY" AND I WANT TO START UP...
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| 00:00:55 |
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40 YEARLONG CAREER IN BROADCAST JOURNALISM AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE IN HISTORY HAS THAT DISTINCTION, AND I WANTED TO TELL MY STORY, BECAUSE I...
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| 00:02:03 |
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PROCESS BECAUSE THEY THINK I THINK WHAT YOU SAID, YOU WERE ABLE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE JOURNAL. TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE WRITING PROCESS...
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| 00:02:15 |
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AGO, WHEN I WAS VERY INTO THE WOMEN'S LIBERATION MOVEMENT IN THE EARLY 70s, AND NBC WOMEN FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST NBC FOR THE LACK OF WOMEN THAT WERE...
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| 00:03:35 |
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Host: RIGHT. IN THE PREFACE OF WRITING A MEMOIRS, IT IS ALWAYS ONE PART NARRATION BUT ALSO REFLECTION. WHAT DID YOU LEARN ABOUT YOURSELF IN WRITING...
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| 00:03:46 |
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Guest: YOU KNOW, I FELL BETTER ABOUT MYSELF. WHEN I TOOK THE FULL MEASURE OF MY CAREER, I DON'T WANT TO SOUND A MODEST, BUT I WAS LIKE GEE I REALLY DID...
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| 00:04:20 |
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TO SELF-PUBLISH THIS. >>
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| 00:04:23 |
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Guest: BECAUSE I TICKET TO LITERARY AGENTS AND THEY SAID NOBODY WANTED TO PUBLISH IT. ONE OF THE THINGS IS PEOPLE KEPT TELLING ME NO. NO YOU CAN'T BE...
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| 00:05:15 |
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LET'S GO BACK TO YOUR BEGINNING. WHERE DID YOU GROW UP? >> Guest: I GREW
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| 00:05:19 |
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UP IN CHICAGO. MY KIND OF TOWN, CHICAGO IS. >> Host: YOUR PARENTS
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| 00:05:25 |
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DID WHAT? >> Guest: MY MOTHER WAS
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| 00:05:28 |
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A SEAMSTRESS. SHE DIDN'T FINISH THE NINTH GREAT. SHE TOOK IN SEWING FOR WEALTHY WHITE WOMEN AND MY DAD WAS A MAIL CARRIER. WE WERE WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE....
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| 00:05:42 |
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YOU TALK ABOUT IN THE BOOK IS EARLY EXPERIENCES AND REALIZING WHAT RACE WAS ABOUT AND THERE THERE ARE LESSONS IMPARTED BY YOUR MOTHER AROUND RACE. >>...
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| 00:05:55 |
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MOTHER WAS MULLATO AND VERY BEAUTIFUL. WHEN SHE WAS 13 YEARS OLD, HER WHITE FATHER WAS ASKED BY WHITE MEN IN TOWN TO GIVE HER TO HIM. HE SAID IF YOU DON'T...
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| 00:07:34 |
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AT SOME POINT YOU TRAVEL DOWN SOUTH WHEN YOU ARE ABOUT NINE YEARS OLD. TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS ON THAT ROAD TRIP DOWN SOUTH. >> Guest: IT
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| 00:07:43 |
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WAS SO AWFUL. I GREW UP IN AN INTEGRATED SITUATION IN CHICAGO. ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A LARGE BLACK FAMILY, SO I KNEW WHO I WAS IN WHAT I WAS, BUT I'D HAD...
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| 00:12:06 |
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THE VARIANCES BACK TO CHICAGO? HE WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL AND AN INTEGRATED HIGH SCHOOL. WHAT WAS RACE LIKE IN HIGH SCHOOL FOR YOU? >>
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| 00:12:15 |
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Guest: WELL, I WAS VERY ACTIVE IN HIGH SCHOOL SO I HAD A LOT OF CONTACT WITH WHITE STUDENTS. I WAS IN THE GLEE CLUB AND I WAS ON THE STUDENT COUNCIL...
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| 00:13:11 |
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WOW. YOU WHEN YOUR JUNIOR YEAR DECIDED TO JOIN THE NEWSPAPER. WHAT LED YOU TO THAT? >> Guest:
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| 00:13:16 |
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I HAD AN ENGLISH TEACHER THAT SAID I WROTE VERY WELL. IT IS VERY FUNNY, ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO I GOT A LETTER FROM A TEACHER THAT I HAD IN EIGHTH GRADE...
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| 00:13:37 |
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REALLY LIKED THIS PAPER. >> Guest: SHE REALLY LIKED
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| 00:13:40 |
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HIS PAPER AND SHE MAILED IT TO ME. SHE SAID I KEPT AT ALL THESE YEARS BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST PAPERS I HAD GOTTEN FROM A STUDENT AND I READ...
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| 00:14:02 |
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OF THANKSGIVING. >>
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| 00:14:03 |
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Guest: KIND OF WHAT IT MEANT TO ME, I DON'T KNOW. >> Host: IS IT ON
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| 00:14:08 |
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YOUR REFRIGERATOR NOW AT YOUR HOUSE? >> Guest: IT IS IN A BOX
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| 00:14:11 |
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WITH ALL OF MY MEMORABILIA BUT IT WAS REMARKABLE THAT SHE HAD SAVED THAT. ANYHOW APPARENTLY I DID WRITE PRETTY WELL AND I HAD AN ENGLISH TEACHER THAT...
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| 00:14:38 |
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YOUR VOICE. >>
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| 00:14:39 |
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Guest: LEARNING HOW TO USE AND PROTECT YOUR VOICE AND NOT BEING AFRAID TO GET IN FRONT OF PEOPLE AND SPEAK. SO I JOINED THE NEWSPAPER AND THEY GAVE...
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| 00:15:41 |
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INDEED. SO YOU MAKE THE DECISION THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE YOUR LIFE'S WORK. >> Guest: I AM LIKE I
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| 00:15:46 |
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LOVE THIS. THE ATTENTION, THE ACCESS, PEOPLE COMING UP TO ME AND WANTED WANTING TO TELL ME INFORMATION. AND I WAS A CURIOUS CHILD, WHO READ A LOT. ...
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| 00:17:03 |
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Host: YOO AND YOU TELL YOUR PARENTS THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE DECIDED. YOU WANT A CAREER AS A JOURNALIST. WHAT DID THEY SAY? [LAUGHTER] >>
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| 00:17:12 |
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Guest: SILLY GIRL. SILLY LITTLE GIRL. YOU CAN'T BE A JOURNALIST. WOMEN DON'T DO THAT AND BLACK WOMEN DON'T DO THAT. YOU NEED TO GO BECOME A TEACHER,...
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| 00:18:30 |
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Host: AT SOME POINT YOU HEAR A SECOND KNOW, THE SECOND OF MANY NOSE WHEN YOU APPLY TO SCHOOL, NORTHWESTERN. >> Guest: NORTHWEST
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| 00:18:41 |
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AND UNIVERSITY IN EVANSTON ILLINOIS. I WAS RIGHT OUTSIDE OF CHICAGO AND THAT THAT IS WHERE HE WANTED TO GO BECAUSE AT THE TIME IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST...
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| 00:19:45 |
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Host: -- >>
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| 00:19:48 |
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Host: FNM BELOW. >>
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| 00:19:49 |
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Guest: THIN ENVELOPE. LITTLE TINY LETTERS. I WAS LIKE, AND MY PARENTS THANK GOD DIDN'T SAY WE TOLD YOU SO. BUT I SAID WELL I AM APPLYING SOMEPLACE ELSE....
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| 00:20:06 |
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UP EVENTUALLY GRADUATING FROM WHERE AND WHAT YEAR? >>
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| 00:20:09 |
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Guest: THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN AND WHY DO YOU WANT THE YEAR? EVERYBODY WILL KNOW HOW OLD I AM. >> Host:
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| 00:20:17 |
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NEVERMIND. >>
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| 00:20:18 |
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Guest: 1962. >> Host: 1962 AND YOU DID
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| 00:20:21 |
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WELL IN SCHOOL. >> Guest: I
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| 00:20:22 |
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DID WELL IN SCHOOL AGAIN AND THERE WERE 60 GRADUATES IN MY CLASS FROM JOURNALISM. EVERYONE HAD A JOB AT GRADUATION TIME EXCEPT ME. AND SO I WENT TO...
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| 00:21:22 |
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THAT. WHAT WAS THE SOUTH LIKE? IT IS THE EARLY 60s. WHAT IS GOING ON THERE? >> Guest: OH
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| 00:21:28 |
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BOY. I WAS THERE FOR EVERYTHING. I WAS THERE WHEN GEORGE WALLACE STOOD IN THE SCHOOLHOUSE DOOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA. I WAS THERE DURING SELMA...
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| 00:22:20 |
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IT BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO MAINTAIN THAT OBJECT PRIVITY AND COVER
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| 00:22:23 |
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IT >> Guest: >> Guest: YES, AND
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| 00:22:29 |
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IT CHANGED ME AGAIN BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN IN THE NORTH AND NOW I KNEW IT SEGREGATED LIFE WAS LIKE. I LIVED UNDER SEGREGATION. A YOUNG GUY ASKED ME OUT...
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| 00:25:40 |
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THE SOUTH AND YOU GO BACK UP NORTH, FIRST IN IOWA AND THEN YOU FINALLY LAND BACK AT HOME IN CHICAGO IN THE 60s. IT IS ABOUT 1965. TELL ME ABOUT CHICAGO,...
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| 00:26:00 |
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TO BE A PRESS REPORTER AND A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 62 WHEN I COULDN'T GET A JOB AND 65 WAS AN AMAZING LENGTH OF TIME. A LOT HAD HAPPENED DURING THAT PERIOD...
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| 00:27:35 |
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THAT VOICE. >> Guest: WHICH
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| 00:27:39 |
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AGAIN DEVELOPED THE DRAMA. IT IS SO FUNNY HOW THINGS FALL INTO PLACE. SO YES, I WAS ON THE RADIO AND THEY WERE LIKE, OH MY, GOSH YOU SOUND REALLY GOOD...
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| 00:28:30 |
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WERE TOUGH THERE. YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN HAPPY THERE AND CERTAINLY MAKING HISTORY AS THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN ON RADIO, BUT YOUR COLLEAGUES WEREN'T AS HAPPY...
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| 00:28:41 |
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THERE. >> Guest: OH NO. IT WAS A BIG NEWS DEPARTMENT FOR A RADIO STATION. THERE WERE 13 OF US, REPORTERS. THEY DIDN'T WANT ME THERE. THEY WERE UPSET...
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| 00:31:03 |
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BETTER. >> Guest: IT MADE ME
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| 00:31:04 |
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BETTER, BUT I MEAN, IF I'M ON THE AIR AND YOU HEARD AN EXPLOSION, I JUST HAD THAT KIND OF FOCUS THAT NOTHING WOULD SHAKE ME. THANKS TO THEIR PRANKS....
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| 00:31:20 |
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WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK AND WE WILL BE BACK WITH CAROLE SIMPSON. >> AFTER
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| 00:31:30 |
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WORDS WITH CAROLE SIMPSON AND NIA-MALIKA HENDERSON WILL CONTINUE AFTER THIS SHORT BREAK. >>
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| 00:32:14 |
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AFTER WORDS WITH CAROLE SIMPSON AND NIA-MALIKA HENDERSON CONTINUES. >> Host: WE ARE
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| 00:32:22 |
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BACK WITH CAROLE SIMPSON. CAROLE, TELL ME WHO YOU MEET IN 1966? SOMEONE WHO CHANGES YOUR LIFE AND CHANGES YOUR CAREER. >> Guest: DR. MARTIN
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| 00:32:34 |
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LUTHER KING. I HAD WATCHED, YOU KNOW BEING IN ALABAMA, I HAD SEEN ALL OF THE DEMONSTRATIONS HE WAS LEADING LEAVING AND ALL OF HIS WORK AND OF COURSE...
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| 00:36:16 |
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PROBLEM. >> Guest: HE SAID,
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| 00:36:19 |
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NO DR. KING IS NOT GIVING ANY INTERVIEWS. AND I SAID, BUT I'M HERE TO SEE WHY HE IS COMING TO CHICAGO. CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHY? NO, HE IS HAVING A...
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| 00:40:44 |
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AT THIS POINT YOU ARE IN RADIO BUT YOU EVENTUALLY MAKE THE SWITCH TO TV AND LAND WITH NBC IN A NETWORK. TELL ME ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE. >> Guest: AT NBC,...
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| 00:40:58 |
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BEEN NINE YEARS AT LOCAL NEWS BEFORE IT HIT THE NETWORK AND THEY WANTED REPORTERS -- NOW THEY DON'T CARE, BUT YOU WOULD SEE YOUNG WOMEN DOING THE NEWS....
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| 00:45:41 |
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MOVE, AFTER SPENDING A NUMBER OF YEARS AT ABC. YOU DECIDE TO GO TO NBC. >> Guest: THEY OFFERED
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| 00:45:52 |
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ME MONEY. THE GREAT TELEVISION PRODUCER THAT WAS RUNNING ABC AND HAD RUN ABC SPORTS BUILT THE NEWS DEPARTMENT AND HE STARTED TAKING PEOPLE FROM OTHER...
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| 00:46:32 |
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DID YOU EXPERIENCE THERE AND SEE IN TERMS OF ABC NEWS' TREATMENT OF WOMEN? >> Guest:
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| 00:46:41 |
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BAD. IT WAS REAL BAD. WE GOT TOGETHER. WE STARTED GETTING TOGETHER SOCIALLY BECAUSE I HAVE DONE THAT AT NBC. I FOUND THE WOMEN AT ABC WEREN'T EVEN...
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| 00:48:39 |
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THE RESULTS, CHANGES WERE ACTUALLY MADE THEIR? >> Guest: THEY
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| 00:48:42 |
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WERE. WE HAD A WOMAN NAMED VICE PRESIDENT. I BECAME AN ANCHOR FOR THE WEEKEND IS. WE HAD A WOMEN ASSIGNED TO THE WHITE HOUSE. WE HAD TO WOMEN BUREAU...
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| 00:49:50 |
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Host: WHILE YOU WERE THERE, YOU WERE DOING DOUBLE DUTY. ON THE WEEKEND TO RUN ANCHOR BUT YOU ARE ALSO A CORRESPONDENT DURING THE WEEKNIGHTS. >> Guest:...
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| 00:50:01 |
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COMBINATION I COULD IMAGINE. I COULD GET UP, GET DRESSED UP ON SUNDAY NIGHT, AT MY HAIR DONE AND MY MAKEUP DONE AND TALK TO THE PEOPLE. I LOVED TALKING...
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| 00:51:37 |
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SUDDENLY CAME THROUGH WHEN YOU COME IN 1992, MODERATED THE TOWN HALL TOWN HALL BETWEEN THEN GOVERNOR CLINTON, PRESIDENT BUSH AND ROSS PEROT. YOU DESCRIBE...
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| 00:51:52 |
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PEOPLE WERE WATCHING. I WAS CHOSEN TO DO THE DEBATE BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN SOME CRITICISM ABOUT THE PREVIOUS DEBATE. THERE WERE NO PEOPLE OF COLOR. ...
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| 00:53:31 |
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A CROWD. >> Guest: IF I WAS IN
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| 00:53:34 |
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ANOTHER DARK SUIT BY -- LIKE THE CANDIDATES IT WOULD WOULD HAVE BEEN HARD. I WERE THE RED SEA BUT I DO LOVE RED. >> Host: IN
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| 00:53:42 |
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1996 THAT WAS THE YEAR YOU FELT LIKE THING STARTED TO GO SOUTH AT ABC. TELL ME ABOUT THAT TIME. >>
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| 00:53:53 |
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Guest: YOU WANT TO MAKE ME CRY AGAIN. YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE ME CRY, NIA. NO, THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE AT ABC THAT I THINK BEGAN TO PUT THE NIGHTS IN ME....
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| 00:55:54 |
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WELL. TRAVELING IN FROM WASHINGTON EVERY WREAKS THEN START THE DAY AFTER HAVING TRAVELED IN. BUT AS SOON AS THE RED LIGHT K NEGATIVE COME I WAS FINED....
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| 00:57:35 |
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Host: TELL US ABOUT YOUR FAMILY AND THE WORK LIFE YOU HAD TO BALANCE TO WHAT IT WAS SO DIFFICULT. YOU WEAR THREE HATS. MY HUSBAND WAS A CAREER MAN AND...
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| 00:58:27 |
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AT TELEVISION NEWS TODAY WHAT DO SEE ARE THE CHANGE IS EVIDENT THAT YOU PUSHED FOR? >> Guest:
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| 00:58:35 |
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NO. NO. I DON'T. YOU SEE A LOT OF WOMEN ON TV FROM THE CABLE NETWORKS AND EVERYTHING. WHEN MEN ARE DOING AMAZINGLY WELL BUT THEY ARE NOT MAKING GOOD...
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| 00:59:38 |
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QUICKLY TOO YOUNG TO THE LIST COMING ON THEIR TWENTIES AND THIRTIES? >> Guest: DO YOUR
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| 00:59:47 |
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BEST. YOU WILL NOT SUCCEED IF YOU CANNOT WRITE WELL. YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE SKILLS TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH ANYONE ELSE. I WILL IS ASKING...
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| 01:00:26 |
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YOU FOR DOING THIS. A DELIGHTFUL BOOK AND DELIGHTFUL CONVERSATION. I THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> Guest: THANK YOU >>
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.