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POTTER, A FORMER SEC CHAIRMAN FROM 1994, SEC COMMISSIONER FROM 1991 THROUGH 1995. LET'S BEGIN WITH THE TASK FORCE. WHY WAS IT SET UP? GUEST: GOOD TO...
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SECTION, THEY FELT IT WAS TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE WE WERE WITH LOBBYING DISCLOSURE. PARTICULARLY WITH SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE COME UP OVER...
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THREE-YEAR SENTENCE. IS THIS RELATED TO THAT CASE? GUEST: THE DELAY CASE IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT AS IT RELATES TO TEXAS LAWS, PREVENTING MONEY FROM
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BEING GIVEN TO CANDIDATES. THE JUDGE FOUND THAT HE HAD SENT CORPORATE MONEY TO THE NATIONAL COMMITTEE, WHICH TURNED AROUND AND SENT IT BACK TO THE STATE...
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| 00:03:04 |
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AN AREA THAT MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE FELT STRONGLY ABOUT. I SHOULD NOTE THAT THIS TASK FORCE
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| 00:03:10 |
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HAS MADE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE BAR ASSOCIATION WILL LOOK AT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FORMALLY. OBVIOUSLY CONGRESS IS THE ONE THAT PASSED THE WINDUP LISTING...
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| 00:05:04 |
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FOUND THAT LOBBYISTS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE GIVING PERSONALLY, LIMITED TO $2,400 PER
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YEAR, PER ELECTION. BUT IF A STATE LOBBY HAS A PARTICULAR MEMBER THEY MAY NOT RAISE MONEY SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM. THEY CANNOT GO OUT FOR TWO YEARS AFTER...
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| 00:05:51 |
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ABLE TO COME FROM COMPANIES TO ARGUE THE CASE? GUEST: THE VAST MAJORITY OF LOBBYISTS ARE MAKING THEIR CASE ON THE RECORD.
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| 00:06:07 |
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THEY ARE ENGAGING IN GRASSROOTS OBJECTIVES, EXPLAINING WHY THE BILL IS GOOD OR BAD. THEY ARE ARGUING IN INTELLECTUAL CASE ON ITS MERITS. THE CONCERN IS...
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| 00:07:16 |
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WITH 1995. THERE IS A HOST: WHAT ABOUT THE ONE ABOUT PART-TIME LOBBYISTS? IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION YOU TALK ABOUT LOBBYISTS
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| 00:07:41 |
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THAT ARE NOT CONSIDERED LOBBYISTS BECAUSE ONLY 20% OF THEIR WORK OR LESS IS CONSIDERED LOBBYING. CORRECT? GUEST: YES. ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS TO...
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PEOPLE IN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS KNOW THAT THERE IS NO PERFECT ANSWER. YOU ARE RIGHT, WE HAVE MAJOR REFORM IN 1995. IN 2007 WE HAD ADDITIONAL CHANGES....
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THERE ARE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PUBLIC EXAMPLES THAT WILL NOT NAME BECAUSE I DO NOT THINK IT IS RELEVANT, BUT THEY
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ARE FORMER MEMBERS OF CONGRESS THAT HAVE BEEN HIRED TO INFLUENCE LEGISLATION WITHOUT BEING REGISTERED LOBBYISTS. THEY DO NOT SPEND 20% OF THEIR TIME...
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TASK FORCE FOR LOBBYING LAWS. LOOKING AT THE ONE PASSED IN 2007, THE LOBBYING DISCLOSURE ACT OF 1995 WAS AMENDED FOR FULL PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF LOBBYING...
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THOUGHT THAT IF YOU WANTED TO LOBBY CONGRESS, IT SHOULD BE DONE BEFORE CONGRESS. AND THEN LET THEM VOTE ON IT. IF THEY WANT TO VOTE ON IT, IF THEY WANT...
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THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING. IF YOU WANT TO LOBBY CONGRESS, WHICH YOU HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO DO, IT MEANS TELL PEOPLE WHO DO ARE...
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ASIDE FROM THAT, 2008, NORM COLEMAN AND JOHN MCCAIN BOTH CONTRIBUTED HIGH AMOUNTS OF MONEY TO THE POLITICIANS WITHIN MY COMMUNITY. HE THEN RECEIVED A...
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TO HIM IS AN HONOR. I THINK THAT WHAT WE ALL RECOGNIZE IS THAT THERE IS A BALANCE HERE. WHAT WE ARE STRUGGLING FOR IS TO FIND THE PROPER BALANCE. WHEN...
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| 00:16:52 |
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EARMARKS? CALLER: OUR CONCERN IS THAT THEY ARE THE MOST DIRECT WAY TO BENEFIT AN INDIVIDUAL OR COMPANY. IT IS ONE
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| 00:17:01 |
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THING TO DO HEALTH CARE LEGISLATION THAT AFFECTS AN ENTIRE INDUSTRY. ANOTHER TO PUT SOMETHING IN A BILL THAT SAYS THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE SHALL PURCHASE...
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IT WOULD BE FAR EASIER TO HAVE A GOVERNMENT WATCHDOG GROUPS LOOK OVER THE ACCOUNTS AND DISCLOSURES MADE BY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RATHER THAN BY THOUSANDS...
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| 00:19:10 |
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YOU COULD PUT THAT ON THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND THEIR CAMPAIGN COMMITTEES. YOU COULD SAY THAT IF SOMEONE HAS LOBBIED YOU WITHIN TWO YEARS, YOU MAY NOT...
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| 00:20:54 |
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PUT IN "THE WASHINGTON TIMES -- OP-ED THAT I PUT IN "THE WASHINGTON TIMES," BUT ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE LOBBYING IN THE ADMINISTRATION? CONGRESS PASSES...
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| 00:21:41 |
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OCCUR IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH. YOU ARE RIGHT, WHEN CONGRESS PASSES A LAW LIKE THIS, IT IS OFTEN VERY BROAD. PEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND...
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| 00:22:36 |
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SHOULD CONGRESS DO THIS YEAR? HOST: LOBBYING DID NOT APPEAR TO BE AN ISSUE IN THE 2010 ELECTION. GUEST:
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| 00:23:06 |
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FIRST OF ALL, ALL OF THE ISSUES YOU MENTIONED, EXCEPT AFGHANISTAN, ARE HUGE LOBBYING
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| 00:23:13 |
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MAGNETS. IT IS INCONCEIVABLE THAT YOU COULD HAVE A MAJOR TAX OVERHAUL WITHOUT EVERY LOBBYING INTEREST IN THE COUNTRY TRYING TO BE IN THE ROOM. BECAUSE...
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| 00:25:00 |
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T.ORG. JACKSONVILLE, GOOD MORNING. CALLER: IS THIS EXPENDITURE GOING TO COME TOGETHER? I
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WAS TALKING TO KARL ROVE AND I WANTED TO RESCUE A QUESTION. HOST: GO AHEAD. CALLER: KARL ROVE, IS THE LOBBYIST? HE CAME IN WITH SARAH PALIN TO START THE...
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| 00:25:40 |
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AFTER THE ELECTION LAST NOVEMBER THEY HAD 200,000 VOTES FOR OUR GOOD MAN, TED STRICKLAND. AND THEY SAID THAT KARL ROVE WAS OUT BRINGING IN A LOT OF FOLKS...
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| 00:26:22 |
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MONEY IN THIS ELECTION TO HAVE TELEVISION ADVERTISEMENTS IN TARGETED STATES. I WILL NOT KNOW IF HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE GOVERNOR'S RACE IN OHIO. CLEARLY...
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| 00:27:15 |
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TO LOBBYING? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHEN A GROUP OF PEOPLE OR LOBBYISTS, AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS MORNING, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY WOULD BE ON THE FRONT...
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| 00:28:07 |
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LOBBYISTS INTERACT IN CAMPAIGNS, MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT LOBBYISTS DO NOT WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON CHALLENGERS. FIRST OF ALL, IF THEY'RE RUNNING AGAINST...
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| 00:30:06 |
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LAWS, IN THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT OVERSIGHT OVER ETHICS LOBBYING RULES. WHO HAS OVERSIGHT NOW? WHO SHOULD HAVE IT? POST OF THE CONGRESS ITSELF, THE SECRETARY...
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| 00:32:19 |
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MY QUESTION GOES BACK TO FOREIGN ACTORS USING LOBBYISTS TO INFLUENCE PETITIONS ON
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| 00:32:26 |
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CONGRESS. LOOKING AT THESE MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES, WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC LAWS THAT GOVERN AGAINST THAT. IS THAT NOT LIKE TREASON? YOU'RE ACTING AS AN...
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TREASON. HOWEVER, THERE IS ANOTHER LAW THAT DIRECTLY REGULATES THAT. IT HAS AN INTERESTING HISTORY. IT WAS PASSED BY CONGRESS IN THE 1930'S BECAUSE THE...
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| 00:34:43 |
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LINE. CALLER: WHAT IS YOUR FEELING ABOUT CORPORATIONS GETTING LARGE AMOUNTS?
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| 00:34:52 |
CALLER, -
GUEST: CITIZENS UNITED WAS A DECISION OF THE SUPREME COURT LAST YEAR.
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| 00:35:01 |
GUEST, -
PERSONALLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS A MISTAKE. BY HAD SIGNED A BRIEF WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT WERE ACTIVE IN THIS AREA, URGING OTHER PEOPLE NOT TO DO. THAT THE...
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| 00:36:35 |
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POINT WHERE, TO ME, MANY MORE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE HAPPENING. PEOPLE PUSHED INTO CORNERS WHERE OTHER THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. THE SHOOTING THAT...
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| 00:37:35 |
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ABOUT. THE PRACTICAL ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO HIRE THEIR OWN LOBBYISTS. SO, THEY WOULD PROBABLY GO TO A TRADE...
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| 00:39:23 |
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THEY CAN SPEND FOR LOBBYING. BUT YOU HAVE GOT THE UNIONS TAKING OF BITS AND PIECES, INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN IN THEIR MINDS IN THE UNIONS. IT HAS BEEN IN...
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| 00:39:57 |
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WHAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON HIS DISCLOSURE OF SPENDING. IN TERMS OF CAMPAIGN SPENDING, THE SUPREME COURT IN THIS CITIZENS UNITED DECISION LAST YEAR SAID...
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| 00:40:51 |
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HOST OF THE DEBATE FOR REPEALING THE HEALTH CARE LAW GETS UNDERWAY TODAY IN THE
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HOUSE. ALSO LOOK FOR COVERAGE OF THE CHINESE PRESIDENT'S VISIT TO THE UNITED STATES. HE IS ARRIVING TODAY FOR AN FOUR DAY VISIT. THANK YOU FOR WATCHING...
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