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00:00:03
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
BOB GRAHAM, AND WILLIAM REILLY, THE FORMER EPA ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION FROM 1989 TO 1993. WELCOME TO BOTH OF YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING...
00:00:40
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
IT. WE HAVE COMPLETED HEARINGS IN NEW ORLEANS AND IN WASHINGTON. WE HAVE HAD AN EXTENSIVE LIST OF PRESENTERS, PUBLIC OFFICIALS, AND OUR ORGANIZATION...
00:01:38
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
KNOW SOME OF THE DIRECTIONS WE ARE GOING, SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND I'M SURE THAT THE WHITE HOUSE
00:01:43
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
WILL BE PUBLIC ABOUT SOME OF THOSE. HOST: SENATOR GRAHAM JOINS US FROM MIAMI THIS MORNING. WHAT HAPPENS AFTER YOU PUT THE REPORT OUT IN JANUARY? YOU...
00:01:56
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
MONTHS TO COMMUNICATE THAT REPORT. HOW ARE YOU AND MR. RILEY -- MR. REILLY AND THE REST OF THIS REPORT COUNT? HOW WILL YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOUR REFORMS...
00:02:24
Graham, Bob - Co-Chair
TO IMPORTANT DECISION MAKERS, STARTING WITH THE PRESIDENT. THEN CONGRESS, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE ADMINISTRATION WILL BE INVOLVED IN IMPLEMENTING. NUMBER...
00:03:36
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
OIL SPILL COMMISSION, ALONG WITH WILLIAM REILLY, THE EPA ADMINISTRATOR FROM THE FIRST BUSH ADMINISTRATION. SENATOR GRAHAM, YOU SAID IT WILL BE THE...
00:04:07
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
WE WOULD CERTAINLY NAME COMPANY NAMES. BEYOND THAT, NO, I WOULD EXPECT THAT WE WOULD BE MORE POLICY- ORIENTED THAN THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT MAY BE IN ITS...
00:04:35
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
IDEA OF WHERE IT -- SENATOR GRAHAM, CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHERE THAT WILL BE? GUEST: CONGRESS -- LAST SUMMER IT DID NOT PASS THE SENATE. WHEN THE...
00:04:55
Graham, Bob - Co-Chair
THIS WILL BE AMONG THEIR HIGHER PRIORITIES. SOME OF THE ISSUES ARE GOING TO RELATE BACK TO THE LAST BIG OIL SPILL, WHICH WAS EXXON VALDEZ. AFTER THAT,...
00:06:43
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
GUEST: WITH RESPECT TO THE ADEQUACY OF THE REGULATORY PROCESS, THE TRAINING, THE PERFORMANCE CAPABILITY OF INSPECTORS,
00:06:51
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
I THINK WE CAN INFER THAT WE WILL HAVE STRONG RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE REFORM OF THAT ENTERPRISE. SECRETARY SALAZAR HAS ALREADY UNDERTAKEN SOME OF THAT,...
00:07:42
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
LOOKING AHEAD TO THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS, AFTER THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS, PEOPLE ARE SAYING REPUBLICANS, PEOPLE IN YOUR PARTY, IF THEY TAKE CONTROL OF THE...
00:08:06
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
THE MOST NOTED RECOMMENDATION WAS A NEW INSTITUTE FOR NUCLEAR POWER OPERATIONS TO SERVE AS THE BEST PRACTICE MONITOR, FUNDED BY THE INDUSTRY FOR THE...
00:08:46
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
C-SPAN.ORG, AND IN OUR FEATURED LINKS SECTION, WE HAVE ALL OF OUR COVERAGE OF THE GULF OIL SPILL. TENNESSEE, YOU ARE FIRST. CALLER: FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD...
00:09:06
CALLER, -
OIL INDUSTRY NEW BOARD MEMBERS HAVE PERSONALLY. IF AND WHEN THERE IS ANOTHER HORRIFIC SPILL, THE LENGTH OF TIME TO PLUG THE HOLE IS OUTRAGEOUS. NOTHING...
00:09:29
Graham, Bob - Co-Chair
RULES. WE ALL FILED FALSE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES. I'M CONVINCED THAT THE SEVEN MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION -- WE HAVE ALL FILED FALSE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES....
00:10:40
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
NOT IMPLICATED OR INVOLVED IN ANY WAY IN THIS ISSUE -- OF THE COMET CNOCOPHILLIPS COMPANY. NOT IMPLICATED OR INVOLVED IN ANY WAY OF THIS, AND I TOOK...
00:11:50
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
REPUBLICAN MIKE, FROM WISCONSIN, GO AHEAD. CALLER: AM CONCERNED THAT YOU WILL DO THE STUDY, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, PASS BILLS. WHO WILL GUARANTEE THAT
00:12:01
CALLER, -
THESE BILLS AND REGULATIONS ARE TAKEN CARE OF AND NOT JUST LET IT GO BY THE WAYSIDE LIKE THEY HAVE IN THE PAST? HOST: MR. REILLY, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE...
00:12:21
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
SENATOR GRAHAM WOULD BE THE ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT GETS THROUGH CONGRESS.
00:12:27
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
WE HAVE MET WITH MANY SENATORS, CERTAINLY FROM THE GULF COLL, 10 SENATORS FROM FIVE STATES, AND WE WILL HAVE A FULL-COURT PRESS TO MAKE SURE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS...
00:13:36
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
YEARS FOR SOME OF ITS RECOMMENDATIONS TO GET THROUGH CONGRESS. THEY WANTED TO CREATE A HOMELAND SECURITY COMMITTEE, BUT OTHER COMMITTEES DID NOT WANT...
00:14:03
Graham, Bob - Co-Chair
WE WILL ALSO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION OF THE DAMAGE THAT HAS BEEN DONE BY THIS OIL SPILL. THOSE WILL BOTH BE VERY CONTROVERSIAL....
00:15:47
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
POWER? GUEST: THAT IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM AND ONE THAT WE HAVE BEFORE THE CONGRESS. THE HOUSE VOTED 420 TO ONE
00:15:59
Graham, Bob - Co-Chair
TO GIVE US SUBPOENA POWER. AND HAS BEEN BLOCKED IN THE SENATE. IT WILL BE RECONVENED -- IT WILL BE UP AGAIN WHEN WE RECONVENE. THUS FAR, WE HAVE HAD...
00:17:07
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
HAVE HAD THE COOPERATION OF COMPANIES THUS FAR, AND WE WILL DEVELOP OUR OWN EXPLORATION OF THE CATASTROPHE. I'M QUITE CERTAIN ABOUT
00:17:14
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
IT. THERE WILL BE INDIVIDUALS WHOSE TESTIMONY WE WOULD HAVE WANTED TO HAVE WHO IN SOME CASES WOULD HAVE BEEN WILLING TO GIVE IT PROVIDED THAT THEY WERE...
00:18:01
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
NOT COOPERATED WITH US AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO.
00:18:05
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
HOST: NEXT CALLER. CALLER: IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN
00:18:13
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
OFF-THE-WALL QUESTION. I'M WONDERING AS I DRIVE DOWN THE
00:18:17
CALLER, -
STREETS AND BUY GASOLINE -- IF HIS GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY IN WESTERN NEW YORK IN THE LAST FEW DAYS. I HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO CHECK THE NATIONAL AVERAGE....
00:19:03
Graham, Bob - Co-Chair
U.S. SOURCES, AND 60% FROM A VARIETY OF FOREIGN COUNTRIES. I WILL NOT SAY THAT THE ZERO MARKET FOR OIL IS PERFECT, BUT I DOUBT THAT -- I WILL NOT SAY...
00:20:00
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
IN CALIFORNIA WE
00:20:04
CALLER, -
HAVE BEEN DRILLING OFF OUR COAST FOR 40 YEARS AND WE HAVE NOT HAD A SPILL SINCE 1969. OIL TRADITIONALLY HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN VERY SAFE. I WOULD LIKE...
00:21:08
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
HAVE HAD TOP 10 OIL SPILLS IN THE LAST 30 YEARS OR SO --
00:21:12
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
EIGHT HAVE BEEN TANKER ACCIDENTS, ONE WAS A REFINERY SPILL CAUSED BY A HURRICANE. THE OTHER WAS THE ONE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. IT IS BY AND LARGE...
00:23:14
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
MORE ATTENTION TO BP AND HALLIBURTON, AND SHOW WHAT ROLE THEY PLAYED? GUEST: WE CALL THESE THE ROOT CAUSE HEARINGS THAT WE WILL HAVE ON THE NIGHT OF...
00:23:32
Graham, Bob - Co-Chair
CONTEXT -- ON THE NINTH OF NOVEMBER. WE'LL GO INTO WHAT WAS THE CONTEXT, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT OCCUR BEFORE THE DISASTER? THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN...
00:24:31
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
INARE INVESTIGATING EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS DOING TO THE GULF
00:24:34
CALLER, -
OF MEXICO, NOT ONLY WHOSE FAULT IT IS, BUT WHAT THE MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF TOXIC CHEMICALS THEY SPRAYED ON THE OIL TO COAGULATE IT AND SEND IT TO THE...
00:25:14
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
SIGNIFICANT RESEARCH, URGING RESEARCH DONE QUICKLY, BY A NUMBER OF INSTITUTIONS INTO THAT. WE KNOW THAT THERE IS OIL IN THE SEDIMENT UNDER THE OCEAN....
00:26:26
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
SENATOR GRAHAM, WHAT IS YOUR REACTION? GUEST: WE HAD ALMOST NO DEEPWATER DRILLING IN THE UNITED STATES 20 YEARS AGO. TODAY, MORE
00:26:44
Graham, Bob - Co-Chair
THAN HALF, 80% OF OUR OIL PRODUCTION WILL BE AT GREATER THAN 5,000 FEET. THE QUESTION IS, HOW CAN WE KEEP OUR SAFETY AND CONTAINMENT CAPABILITIES UP TO...
00:27:54
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
IS A LARGE CONCENTRATION OUT WEST OF OIL, WHICH
00:27:58
CALLER, -
CONGRESS SHOULD BE HELD IN CONTEMPT AND GO TO JAIL BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN, WHAT, 1973 SINCE THE OIL EMBARGO AND STUFF? AND THEY STILL HAVE NOT SOLVED NOTHING....
00:28:20
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
GUEST: MY OWN VIEW IS THAT WE NEED TO ANSWER THE LARGER QUESTION OF WHAT IS U.S. ENERGY POLICY. IS THERE
00:28:29
Graham, Bob - Co-Chair
SOME IRREDUCIBLE RESERVE IN OUR COUNTRY? THE UNITED STATES IS USING 22% OF ALL OF THE PETROLEUM LISTED AROUND THE WORLD. WE HAVE SOMETHING LESS THAN 5%...
00:29:28
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
WAS COMMENTING ON OUR TWITTER PAGE OF THE SUBPOENA ISSUE. WHO IS HOLDING SUBPOENA POWER AND WHY? GUEST: SENATOR COHEN AND SENATOR GROSSO. THE SENATOR...
00:29:50
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
THEY HAVE PROPOSED ANOTHER COMMISSION ALTERNATIVE, A COMMISSION ALTERNATIVE TO WHICH THEY WOULD GIVE SUBPOENA POWER. SENATOR BARASSO SAID IF THAT WERE...
00:31:07
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
GUEST: YES, EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE WILL BE PUBLIC. HOST: SENATOR GRAMM --
00:31:15
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
SENATOR GRAHAM, YOU HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS. WILL YOU NOT HAVE A
00:31:21
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
UNANIMOUS REPORT? WILL THERE BE DISSENTING OPINIONS? GUEST: WE WILL LEARN THAT IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AS WE MOVE BEYOND OUR FINAL PUBLIC HEARINGS AND...
00:31:32
Graham, Bob - Co-Chair
OF DEVELOPING FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. IT IS A VERY COMPATIBLE GROUP OF PEOPLE, EVEN THOUGH THEY BRING QUITE DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS. WE HAVE PEOPLE...
00:32:41
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
LEGAL TACTICS THAT EXXON DID AFTER THE EXXON VALDEZ SPILL,
00:32:45
CALLER, -
WHICH WAS TO KEEP THE AWARDED $5.5 BILLION TIED UP IN APPELLATE COURTS UNTIL TWO NEW JUSTICES WERE APPOINTED TO THE SUPREME COURT 18 YEARS AFTER THE...
00:33:14
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
I THINK EXXON'S VIEW OF THAT WAS THAT THEY HAD GIVEN AT THE OFFICE, SO TO SPEAK, SO THEN THEY GOT A $5 BILLION AWARD IN COURT IN ALASKA ENTERED AGAINST...
00:34:16
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
TO THE VESSELS OF OPPORTUNITY PARTICIPANTS. $396 MILLION TO COMPENSATE FISHERMEN AND HOTEL OWNERS. CALLER: THE PREVIOUS CALLER TO PART OF MY QUESTION...
00:34:39
CALLER, -
WE CAN EXPECT WITH BP. THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IS JUST BEING DOWNED -- BEING DUMBED DOWN AND DECEIVED. SENATOR GRAHAM TALKS ABOUT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC HOPEFULLY...
00:35:52
Graham, Bob - Co-Chair
MIGHT WITHHOLD FINAL JUDGMENT UNTIL YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY DONE. THESE ISSUES IN MANY CASES ARE CONTROVERSIAL. THERE ARE DIFFERENT POINTS OF...
00:37:14
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
TO THE CRITICISM AND BLAME IN YOUR REPORT? GUEST: WE ARE INDEPENDENT -- WE ARE INDEPENDENT COMMISSION AND WE HAVE ALREADY CAST SOME BLAME ON
00:37:28
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
THE ADMINISTRATION, AND THAT HAS NOT GONE OVER WELL. I WOULD SAY TO THE CALLER, WITH RESPECT TO CREDIBILITY AND TRUST, IT IS PRICELESS. ONE REASON...
00:38:50
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
SIZE," COMING FROM YOUR COMMISSION, IT IS SAID THAT YOU ALL THOUGHT THE GOVERNMENT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WAS DOWNPLAYING AND UNDERESTIMATING THE AMOUNT...
00:39:34
Graham, Bob - Co-Chair
WHO QUESTIONED THE METHODOLOGY BEING USED TO CALCULATE THE AMOUNT OF OIL COMING OUT. FINALLY THAT NUMBER WAS ADJUSTED FROM THE INITIAL ESTIMATES OF BETWEEN...
00:40:55
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
PHONE AND SAY, "BOOK, WE HAVE EVIDENCE OF THE CONTRARY HERE -- "LUCK, WE HAD EVIDENCE OF THE CONTRARY HERE"? GUEST: I WOULD JUST SAY THAT ESSENTIALLY...
00:41:14
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
RATE, SECOND WAS THE AMOUNT OF OIL IN THE GULF. FINALLY, A REPORT FROM THE OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION WAS HELD UP. WE SAID IT EITHER BESPOKE...
00:42:09
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
GUEST: NO, I DO NOT THINK WE WILL. HOST: WE WILL HAVE TO LEAVE IT
00:42:17
Reilly, William K. - Co-Chair
THERE, GENTLEMEN. I WANT TO THANK BOTH OF YOU, WILLIAM REILLY, FORMER
00:42:22
Brawner, Greta Wodele - Host
EPA ADMINISTRATOR, AND SENATOR BOB GRAHAM, FORMER SENATOR FROM FLORIDA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO BOTH OF YOU FOR BEING ON THE PROGRAM. THAT DOES IT FOR...

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